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Well, I just went and ordered a Pod XT Live.

Karl Hungus · 2006-09-03 00:19:01

Well, after much musings here, and stratching the pennies together, I've finally bit the bullet and ordered one. I've been doing a lot of recording lately, so I'm certain this will be an invaluable tool in that reguard. Something I've just discovered after I've ordered it though was this: I've made an attempt at recording…

03-09-2006 1:19am

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Well, after much musings here, and stratching the pennies together, I've finally bit the bullet and ordered one. I've been doing a lot of recording lately, so I'm certain this will be an invaluable tool in that reguard.

Something I've just discovered after I've ordered it though was this:

Version 3.0 also allows you to add a new optional upgrade - the Bass Expansion Model Pack, which adds 28 bass amp and 22 bass cabinet models – all paired with the perfect, modeled mic options for recording bass guitar. The Bass Expansion Model Pack gives any guitarist who also plays bass, a whole new dimension to the PODXT Live you already own.

I've made an attempt at recording some bass too, so when I read that, my eyes lit up!

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#2 03-09-2006 8:01pm

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I have one and it's pretty good. I can see it being very useful in an actual live situation. For recording I think I'd rather have the desktop bean. The bass upgrade is a great idea but it is kind of expensive, which is a downer. The most recent upgrade was free though. It gives you a variety of wah models, some new effects and a couple of new amps. It's a fun piece of equipment.

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#3 03-09-2006 8:07pm

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Ravelleman wrote:

I have one and it's pretty good. I can see it being very useful in an actual live situation. For recording I think I'd rather have the desktop bean. The bass upgrade is a great idea but it is kind of expensive, which is a downer. The most recent upgrade was free though. It gives you a variety of wah models, some new effects and a couple of new amps. It's a fun piece of equipment.

Naw, I wouldn't bother with the bean, I'd rather be able to just run it with the Engl when I want to, and have all the options at my feet.

Didn't realise the bass upgrade was extra?

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#4 03-09-2006 9:06pm

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Oh, let us know how it sounds with the Fireball. After using one at the weekend and having my balls rocked by its distortion I'd be interested to see if the XTL can expand its tonal range satisfactorily.

Oh and that Bass addon is rather pricey alright, $99.

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#5 03-09-2006 9:37pm

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There's got to be a free way to get it, not that I advocate it, but this is the internet my friends.

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#6 03-09-2006 10:25pm

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It wasn't me! wrote:

There's got to be a free way to get it, not that I advocate it, but this is the internet my friends.

Nope, the packs are hardware locked to your pod. $99 isnt so bad though considering you get the whole bass pod xt installed to your pod which is around €300 in itself. You can also return the pack within a month if you arent happy (its a very straightfoward process, I did it once myself but ended up rebuying the pack a few weeks later when I had more time to play with it and havnt looked back)

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#7 03-09-2006 10:55pm

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Yup got the Metal Shop pack for my Toneport and I love it. Definitly worth the $50, especially if I get a Flextone since I can transfer the pack over and basically have a HD147 combo.

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#8 03-09-2006 11:03pm

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Beecher wrote:

Nope, the packs are hardware locked to your pod. $99 isnt so bad though considering you get the whole bass pod xt installed to your pod which is around €300 in itself.

Where are they for €300?

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#9 03-09-2006 11:12pm

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Karl Hungus wrote:

Where are they for €300?

From America when you factor in shipping and the cost of a new line-6 plug. If you shop around you can find them even cheaper (got a new pod xt for €245 incl delivery). Also Pod XT lives for €260. Shipping wouldnt be too bad and european line 6 plugs are cheap from thomann and the like.

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#10 03-09-2006 11:17pm

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Beecher wrote:

From America when you factor in shipping and the cost of a new line-6 plug. If you shop around you can find them even cheaper (got a new pod xt for €245 incl delivery). Also Pod XT lives for €260. Shipping wouldnt be too bad and european line 6 plugs are cheap from thomann and the like.

Oh right. Could be more if I got stung for customs.

I just ordered from gak.co.uk as it was the handiest, and cheapest I found.

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#11 04-09-2006 10:00am

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Let us know how it goes Karl. I bought one of ebay but got screwed over by the seller. He sold me one he didn't have, he was waiting for another shipment in the end so I got a refund. Only responded to my mails when I threatened with lodging a complaint with ebay.

Would rather not pay €500 ish for one of these bad boys.

Karl Hungus wrote:

Oh right. Could be more if I got stung for customs.

I just ordered from gak.co.uk as it was the handiest, and cheapest I found.

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#12 04-09-2006 1:36pm

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Oh, expect a full indepth review on my part.

It's something like €430 on www.gak.co.uk so you might want to consider that if you're not looking to get screwed on ebay.

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#13 04-09-2006 2:24pm

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When do you expect it? If I ordered today would I get it this week? Ooooo temptation.

EDIT: I notice with that site you need to ship to your billing address. dolphinmusic.co.uk is the same price and I think you can ship to a different address.

Karl Hungus wrote:

Oh, expect a full indepth review on my part.

It's something like €430 on www.gak.co.uk so you might want to consider that if you're not looking to get screwed on ebay.

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#14 04-09-2006 3:08pm

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have had a pod xt live for a good while now. invaluable in the studio. i use it for effects with the marshall live and its midi controls the amp.
Great piece of kit

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#15 04-09-2006 3:19pm

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Slaanesh wrote:

When do you expect it? If I ordered today would I get it this week? Ooooo temptation.

EDIT: I notice with that site you need to ship to your billing address. dolphinmusic.co.uk is the same price and I think you can ship to a different address.

Well I ordered it Saturday night, so I'd expect it was sent today, so I might get it wednesday? I'd definetly say you'd have it before the weekend if you ordered now. I've never ordered from Gak before, or Dolphinmusic, but stuff from England is usually very prompt, 2 or 3 days.

sei046 wrote:

have had a pod xt live for a good while now. invaluable in the studio. i use it for effects with the marshall live and its midi controls the amp.
Great piece of kit

You're controling the amp with the Pod XT Live? Handy, how does that work?

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#16 05-09-2006 4:09am

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Anyone any experience with using a Zoom G9.2tt or Vox Tonelab?

Very reasonable prices and the fact theres actully one or two tubes in these pedals sounds very promising.

KH if you've used the likes of the Boss ME-50 I'd be keen to know how the XT Live compares. I'v been kinda scared of multi effects units since I got the Boss as it sounds very scratchy and theres a bit of a delay when switching between patches. But if newer ones are more up to scratch, its certainly cheaper then buying a new amp!

:edit: Wayhey! 100th post! Only tooks me 9 months! lol

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#17 05-09-2006 4:31am

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The ME-50 doesn't compare to the Pod XT, the ToneLab or the Boss Gt-8. It's the "lesser" model from Boss.

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#18 05-09-2006 2:02pm

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Well, it was shipped today. Could have it on Friday.

KH if you've used the likes of the Boss ME-50 I'd be keen to know how the XT Live compares. I'v been kinda scared of multi effects units since I got the Boss as it sounds very scratchy and theres a bit of a delay when switching between patches. But if newer ones are more up to scratch, its certainly cheaper then buying a new amp!

No idea about most Multieffects, but I'll let you know if there's any delay between switching or not.

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#19 05-09-2006 2:04pm

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Damn you anyway. I ordered one yesterday and now I'm going through this whole credit card security rigmarole because I wanted to ship it to my work address. Had to fax them copy of my driving licence on company headed paper. Still haven't heard back from them. I have ordered from them before so I don't doubt I'll eventually get there. Would have loved it for rehersals at the weekend though

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#20 05-09-2006 2:08pm

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Slaanesh wrote:

Damn you anyway. I ordered one yesterday and now I'm going through this whole credit card security rigmarole because I wanted to ship it to my work address. Had to fax them copy of my driving licence on company headed paper. Still haven't heard back from them. I have ordered from them before so I don't doubt I'll eventually get there. Would have loved it for rehersals at the weekend though

Why not just get it shipped to the billing address?

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#21 05-09-2006 2:14pm

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One assumes because he'll be in work during delivery hours.

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#22 05-09-2006 2:14pm

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Might be no one at home to collect it

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#23 05-09-2006 2:16pm

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Hit .... nail .... on .... head.

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#24 05-09-2006 2:25pm

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Right you are so, silly me.

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#25 05-09-2006 4:30pm

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So you're telling me that for roughly 500 you can get a multi that does guitar AND bass? I'm there!!!

Can't find the bass pack at my usual sources, but the XTlive units are 400 apiece for the guitar or bass unit....what a savings!

I already know that my ME-50 doesn't handle bass frequencies well at all, and having a unit that did both either for live or recording would be, like, uber-cool.

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#26 05-09-2006 4:40pm

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Expect reviews from both myself and Karl H Although expect Karl's to be more in-depth because I don't know anything about stuff and things ... what's an effects board?

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#27 05-09-2006 5:53pm

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Good! Perhaps Karl's will be more scientific (It's capable of this, this, this, and this) and yours will be "It sounds really great when I do this!", which is just as important.

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#28 05-09-2006 6:42pm

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I don't know about that. You're talking about someone who pretty much doesn't use effects.

My review will probably consist of "Pod XT is my wife now!"

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#29 07-09-2006 9:08am

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Karl make your you download line6 edit , its wicked for making patches and custom building your tones

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#30 07-09-2006 9:18am

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I've already downloaded the custom tone zip file off the website. Thousands of presets by users claiming to sound like certain artists. I'll believe it when I hear it! Can't wait to play with it.

Unfortunately I've an acoustic gig at the weekend and won't be back till Monday, it will probably be delivered tomorrow and I won't get to play with it at all, oh the torture.

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#31 07-09-2006 2:30pm

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Well it just arrived.

More on this later.

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#32 07-09-2006 2:33pm

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*DING* ... CONGRATULATIONS ... you have just reached the top 10 'most hated people of all time'.

Karl Hungus wrote:

Well it just arrived.

More on this later.

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#33 07-09-2006 3:18pm

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Slaanesh wrote:

I've already downloaded the custom tone zip file off the website. Thousands of presets by users claiming to sound like certain artists. I'll believe it when I hear it! Can't wait to play with it.

Unfortunately ALOT of them are ****. You really need to make your own or find a decent starting point from the few good ones on customtone.com

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#34 07-09-2006 3:23pm

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I feel an upload and vote for your favourite tone website idea coming along ...

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#35 07-09-2006 3:35pm

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Ok, so far the verdict is I don't know how to use it. I've just spent the past hour trying out some of the presets that were already there. No clue how to make my own or anything yet, but I'm already having loads of fun with the volume pedal. No doubt that'll get a fair bit of use.

I think now it's a case of RTFM.

One thing that they blubbed about on the Line6 website is how easy it to use compared to a regular amp... Yeah, that's not entirely true. My Engl is very much plug & play, simple as can be, but this gizmo is going to take me some time. I've been at it an hour now and I don't even know how to change the volume to wah.

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#36 07-09-2006 3:55pm

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To be honest, with the ENGL I would have went with the GT-8 purely due to the FX-Chain and the 4-Cable method but this whole bass thingy you want sounds cool.

I wonder is there a way to run time based and modulation effects through the fx loop while keeping the distortions in front. Also, it's nice to be able to program it so the Pitch Bend is first in the chain so it gets a pure signal and tracks better.

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#37 07-09-2006 3:57pm

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Don't you just press down hard on the expression pedal and she changes? I've already read the manual :P

Although not sure on that one!

Read the ******* manual.

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#38 07-09-2006 4:12pm

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Giblet wrote:

To be honest, with the ENGL I would have went with the GT-8 purely due to the FX-Chain and the 4-Cable method but this whole bass thingy you want sounds cool.

I wonder is there a way to run time based and modulation effects through the fx loop while keeping the distortions in front. Also, it's nice to be able to program it so the Pitch Bend is first in the chain so it gets a pure signal and tracks better.

Honestly Giblet, I very nearly bought a GT-8 at one stage earlier on in the year, but I was looking to the Pod for recording, so the USB port was a big factor. Besides, almost everone who had experience said that while the GT-8 was better for effects, the Pod had better modelling.

Anyway, installing the Line6 Monkey now, and I'll try updating it, see what happens.

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#39 07-09-2006 5:52pm

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Ah the Monkey makes life alot easier, no messing around with finding downloads and stuff.

Gearbox for the Toneport is really easy to use to be honest so I assume Edit is similar.

And yes Slaanesh, given the retarded tones I've heard coming from Customtone I think uploading our own favourites would be an excellent idea.

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#40 07-09-2006 6:05pm

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Karl Hungus wrote:

I've been at it an hour now and I don't even know how to change the volume to wah.

It took me about a week to realise that you could do that. There seems to be a knack to it. Does your volume pedal suffer from the dreaded squeak? Mine does :rolleyes:

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#41 07-09-2006 6:55pm

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Ravelleman wrote:

It took me about a week to realise that you could do that. There seems to be a knack to it. Does your volume pedal suffer from the dreaded squeak? Mine does :rolleyes:

Hah. The squeak seems to come and go.

Right, so far, inbetween a quick game of BF2, I've installed all the stuff, created a new patch (Which sounds very nice) and I'm now recording with the line out with Audacity. It's sounding very good indeed, but I've not yet discovered how to record over the USB port.

So far so good. Haven't yet tried running it as a multieffects through the Engl though.

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#42 08-09-2006 11:34am

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Karl, got any samples available for out listening pleasure?

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#43 08-09-2006 11:45am

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What's a Pod XT Live? *

* Friday funny.

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#44 08-09-2006 11:50am

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It's something that will hopefully be delivered to me today then tease me all over the weekend because I won't get to fiddle with it.

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Ancient1 wrote:

What's a Pod XT Live? *

* Friday funny.

Just think Ancient1, with the money he spent on the Pod, he could have bought a rather nice strat from the Ubox...

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#46 08-09-2006 3:07pm

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Woohoo, it arrived. I figured out how to use it in a few minutes, that's without even using a guitar. Now to find a guitar for it ....

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#47 08-09-2006 3:20pm

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Oh and that reminds me Karl, I used your Fireball settings with the Powerball model on my Toneport and got a very nice tone extremely like the one from that Fireball Jeff clip you posted. Not sure if your setting should have given me a more aggressive tone but I'm sure I still need to tweak the cab and mic settings to get the best out of it.

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#48 08-09-2006 3:43pm

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Good stuff Gizmo.

Slaanesh wrote:

Karl, got any samples available for out listening pleasure?

Nope, not yet. I'm still messing around with recording, but maybe tonight I'll have something.

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#49 09-09-2006 12:03pm

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Karl the USb acts as a soundcard. Set up your channel in your sequencer to ASIO pod or something

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#50 09-09-2006 6:08pm

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sei046 wrote:

Karl the USb acts as a soundcard. Set up your channel in your sequencer to ASIO pod or something

Yeah, I got it working now, I just changed the recording device in Audacity.

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#51 10-09-2006 11:04am

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Hey Karl,

What's the distortion like on one of those new PODs? I had a POD 2.0 but I did not really get the distortion sound I was after, although it was a pretty decent all round unit. Like yourself, I'm doing quite a bit of recording at the mo' - so I bought a Digitech Black 13 (Scott Ian signiture pedal) it's pretty darn cool. I get a really nice sound from the EMG's on the Ecplipse. It also has on output so it can go directly into a Mixer (handy). I also bought a digitech Death Metal pedal – I was very dissapointed with it. It definitely does not sound the same as the demo on the Website:( . But the Scott Ian definitely makes up for it.

I might pick one of those new POD up at some point.

Cheers,

B.

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