UK Election Results

Melange · 30-04-2010 12:43pm #1

Does anyone here know what time the results from the UK general election will start to come in? I'm thinking of staying up for them, but I have an exam on the morning of the 7th, so I can't stay up too late! Thanks.

Victor · 30-04-2010 1:18pm

As they are all single counts, I imagine the first will be available between midnight and 2am.

bijapos · 30-04-2010 2:23pm

If memory serves me correct the smaller constituencies will start having results at 11 ish. By 00.30 there should be enough in to get an idea of how big the swing is, an hour later you'll be able to predict well over 90% of seats and have a very good idea of the final result.

Final result should be around 3 or 4 at the latest except for the odd constituency.

rightwingdub · 30-04-2010 3:44pm

I'm predicting a Labour-Lib Dems coalition can't see the tories getting an overall majority.

evercloserunion · 30-04-2010 4:27pm

Unfortunately I have an exam the next morning as well. I dunno what I'll do.

LordSutch · 30-04-2010 4:38pm

rightwingdub wrote: »

I'm predicting a Labour-Lib Dems coalition can't see the tories getting an overall majority.

I thought Clegg had ruled this out :rolleyes:

BroomBurner · 30-04-2010 5:08pm

Camelot wrote: »

I thought Clegg had ruled this out :rolleyes:

Ya thought wrong, Clegg said the LibDems want to win outright. If not, they'll go in to a coalition with whoever will accept the four main principles of their manifesto.

Melange · 30-04-2010 5:59pm

Victor wrote: »

As they are all single counts, I imagine the first will be available between midnight and 2am.

bijapos wrote: »

If memory serves me correct the smaller constituencies will start having results at 11 ish. By 00.30 there should be enough in to get an idea of how big the swing is, an hour later you'll be able to predict well over 90% of seats and have a very good idea of the final result.

Final result should be around 3 or 4 at the latest except for the odd constituency.

Thanks for the replies. That's definitely a bit earlier than I would have thought. I'll stay up till roughly 2 - that should be enough to get a clear indication, and it gives me six hours of sleep before the exam.

owenc · 30-04-2010 6:09pm

How the hell can you get the results when we havn't even flipping voted yet! Oh sorry lol read it...

steelcityblues · 30-04-2010 7:22pm

Sunderland South (Chris Mullin's old seat), has this long running record of being the first constituency to declare, usually around midnight!

ChocolateSauce · 30-04-2010 7:46pm

Camelot wrote: »

I thought Clegg had ruled this out :rolleyes:

He did. But then his party told him to change his mind. :rolleyes:

Duffy7 · 30-04-2010 8:57pm

They'll have the exit polls etc at ten. Because of the system they will probably need a few results first to see the impact of the Lib Dem vote.

The North don't count the votes until the following day.

Amhran Nua · 30-04-2010 8:59pm

BroomBurner wrote: »

If not, they'll go in to a coalition with whoever will accept the four main principles of their manifesto.

I wonder will they get their poll to leave the EU completely?

BroomBurner · 30-04-2010 10:36pm

Amhran Nua wrote: »

I wonder will they get their poll to leave the EU completely?

Having a referendum on Europe isn't one of their main concerns. They spoke about leaving EU in a kind of "well, let's ask the EU question as one big question, in a democratic vote" way.

The LibDems have never been anti-EU.

Victor · 30-04-2010 10:38pm

Camelot wrote: »

I thought Clegg had ruled this out :rolleyes:

He ruled Brown out.

amacachi · 30-04-2010 10:41pm

Love British Election night,results come thick and fast and the picture tends to be clear early on. Of course it'll probably take a bit longer than usual for a representative picture to emerge. Have a stupid exam meself the following morning, will involve getting up around 6am.

Amhran Nua · 30-04-2010 10:52pm

BroomBurner wrote: »

Having a referendum on Europe isn't one of their main concerns. They spoke about leaving EU in a kind of "well, let's ask the EU question as one big question, in a democratic vote" way.

We know a few lads actively involved with the party and they seem to be fairly serious about it.

BroomBurner · 30-04-2010 11:26pm

Amhran Nua wrote: »

We know a few lads actively involved with the party and they seem to be fairly serious about it.

One swallow a summer doesn't make.

I know they floated the idea of joining the Euro, but this was addressed by Clegg, saying that if it was economically advantageous to the UK, they would put it to the people to vote.

I did think you're party logo was familiar...

Amhran Nua · 30-04-2010 11:38pm

BroomBurner wrote: »

I did think you're party logo was familiar...

Heh, there is no connection other than a genuine desire to resolve some of the endemic problems within our respective nations, which has led to a certain amount of informal interaction.

deadhead13 · 30-04-2010 11:46pm

Hopefully it will throw up a few moments like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvWE6V9ulE

I was living in London at the time and could hear the cheers coming from the surrounding houses.

BroomBurner · 30-04-2010 11:47pm

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Heh, there is no connection other than a genuine desire to resolve some of the endemic problems within our respective nations, which has led to a certain amount of informal interaction.

They are a great party to be in touch with. The closest we have at the moment in terms of how the party itself operates, is the Greens. Both have that "triple lock" system of ensuring party support. I'm a big believer that how a party treats it's own members is a very good idea on how it will treat the electorate.

ejmaztec · 01-05-2010 1:11am

deadhead13 wrote: »

Hopefully it will throw up a few moments like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvWE6V9ulE

I was living in London at the time and could hear the cheers coming from the surrounding houses.

I remember staying up just to watch Portillo being vanquished, it was the highlight for me. He's mellowed a lot more than I have since then.

Euro_Kraut · 01-05-2010 1:22am

Amhran Nua wrote: »

I wonder will they get their poll to leave the EU completely?

Where in their manifesto does it sat they want a referendum on pulling out of the EU?

Sulmac · 01-05-2010 1:26am

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Where in their manifesto does it sat they want a referendum on pulling out of the EU?

Page 67:

Liberal Democrats therefore remain committed to an in/out referendum the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU.

They've said they'd campaign for a "yes" vote.

Euro_Kraut · 01-05-2010 1:41am

Sulmac wrote: »

Page 67:

They've said they'd campaign for a "yes" vote.

Interesting. I read that section and missed it.

Probably because it wasn't a bullet pointed 'promise'. It doesn't appear to be a core issue. Their mini 4 pointer document makes no issue of it plus I didn't hear Clegg mention it once in the 3 debates.

In any event its kinda mute because the EU are unlikely to negotiate a new treaty in in the short-medium term. Even if the did that worded is vague enough to give them wiggle room.

If it was a case of them making a referendum on UK within Europe as a policy goal within the lifetime of the next Govt it would be a bit different. Thats what UKIP are after.

I would imagine that the Liberals will be looking for one big issue - electoral reform. If they can get a PR system than they are likely to be involved in Govts on regular occasion for the foreseeable future.

baalthor · 01-05-2010 9:30am

Duffy7 wrote: »

The North don't count the votes until the following day.

Not this time. For the first time they're doing it straight after the vote.

owenc · 01-05-2010 11:21am

Sulmac wrote: »

Page 67:

They've said they'd campaign for a "yes" vote.

Well in that case i want them in power, i want nothing to do with europe we are an island off it and we share no similarites roads,timezones, currency and languages.. totally different!! PLus they keep borrowing money out of the uk that they never give back, they can get lost they arn't taking any more of my money! The uk can send money off the irish government but thats all who i will be giving my money off to.

Sulmac · 01-05-2010 11:57am

owenc wrote: »

Well in that case i want them in power, i want nothing to do with europe we are an island off it and we share no similarites roads,timezones, currency and languages.. totally different!! PLus they keep borrowing money out of the uk that they never give back, they can get lost they arn't taking any more of my money! The uk can send money off the irish government but thats all who i will be giving my money off to.

You couldn't be more wrong.

owenc · 01-05-2010 12:00pm

Sulmac wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong.

idc i have nothing to do with europe, i hate the whole idea!!:mad::mad::mad:

amacachi · 01-05-2010 12:05pm

LOL, the UK leaving Europe and NI leaving the UK would probably lead to half a million people up there looking like OMG cat for 10 or so years when they realised what their economy was based on.

owenc · 01-05-2010 12:07pm

amacachi wrote: »

LOL, the UK leaving Europe and NI leaving the UK would probably lead to half a million people up there looking like OMG cat for 10 or so years when they realised what their economy was based on.

How would it we don't care what happens in europe we are an island off it!!! The uk is sooo different to europe.. ireland MAY be more like it but the uk is nowhere near like it!!! no thanks... why do you want to be in it anyway .. its crap!!! oh god i hate that place!!!:mad::mad: Sorry but i don't know about you but i don't want multiple foreign countries controlling my country!

Sulmac · 01-05-2010 12:15pm

owenc wrote: »

How would it we don't care what happens in europe we are an island off it!!! The uk is sooo different to europe.. ireland MAY be more like it but the uk is nowhere near like it!!! no thanks... why do you want to be in it anyway .. its crap!!! oh god i hate that place!!!:mad::mad: Sorry but i don't know about you but i don't want multiple foreign countries controlling my country!

If you knew how the EU works, you'd realise that's not the case at all.

owenc · 01-05-2010 12:23pm

Sulmac wrote: »

If you knew how the EU works, you'd realise that's not the case at all.

I DON'T CARE, i want to be a country that can be ruled by itself not by some other country that is foreign to me, its like the people over the border they don't want to be ruled by the uk etc... i mean the uk can survive without the european union, we don't need it, we are not like europeans!!! aww god forget about it you won't listen your just going to keep saying its better!

ejmaztec · 01-05-2010 12:45pm

owenc wrote: »

I DON'T CARE, i want to be a country that can be ruled by itself not by some other country that is foreign to me, its like the people over the border they don't want to be ruled by the uk etc... i mean the uk can survive without the european union, we don't need it, we are not like europeans!!! aww god forget about it you won't listen your just going to keep saying its better!

We're all Europeans whether we like it or not. If Britain wants to survive in this world, it has to give up sitting on the fence, and throw in its lot with the rest of us. Britain should keep up with the programme and finally realise that the Empire has been dead and buried for decades.

Unfortunately, if the Tories get back in, they'll keep Britain even further in the background, because they won't commit themselves 100% to Europe. It's ironic that Tory Ted Heath took Britain into the European Community in the first place, and the Tories have been fighting amongst themselves over Europe ever since.

Euro_Kraut · 01-05-2010 2:04pm

owenc wrote: »

I DON'T CARE, i want to be a country that can be ruled by itself not by some other country that is foreign to me,

Like Northern Ireland being governed by Island off the coast of it?

If you think its beneficial for NI to be part of a bigger entity (the UK) surely you can see how it is beneficial for the UK to be part of the EU? If your position is the NI should be in the UK, but UK should not be in the EU, then your position is completely inconsistent.

Nationalists believe in the rights of country to be free and independent. Are you a nationalist? I seem to remember than you are intact a Unionist.

old hippy · 01-05-2010 2:11pm

owenc wrote: »

I DON'T CARE, i want to be a country that can be ruled by itself not by some other country that is foreign to me, its like the people over the border they don't want to be ruled by the uk etc... i mean the uk can survive without the european union, we don't need it, we are not like europeans!!! aww god forget about it you won't listen your just going to keep saying its better!

Ireland has always been ruled - be it by the British, Rome or Washington. We're a lot freer with the EU than without.

owenc · 01-05-2010 2:12pm

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Like Northern Ireland being governed by Island off the coast of it?

If you think its beneficial for NI to be part of a bigger entity (the UK) surely you can see how it is beneficial for the UK to be part of the EU? If your position is the NI should be in the UK, but UK should not be in the EU, then your position is completely inconsistent.

Nationalists believe in the rights of country to be free and independent. Are you a nationalist? I seem to remember than you are intact a Unionist.

How is unionism anything to do with that!! I was Judy isingnationalists as an example as how I feel over the eu.

greendom · 01-05-2010 2:16pm

Victor wrote: »

He ruled Brown out.

I thought he ruled out Brown being PM if Labour came third?

Podge_irl · 01-05-2010 2:22pm

Sulmac wrote: »

Page 67:

They've said they'd campaign for a "yes" vote.

I'm pretty sure they mean they want a referendum on any further large EU treaties, much like Ireland with Lisbon. They don't want a referendum on pulling out of the EU - none of the parties will put it to a referendum, largely because they would be afraid it would pass.

I've never really followed the UK's election system until recently, but it really is absurdly unfair and unrepresentative.

ejmaztec · 01-05-2010 2:29pm

owenc wrote: »

How is unionism anything to do with that!! I was Judy isingnationalists as an example as how I feel over the eu.

owenc · 01-05-2010 2:37pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

I'm pretty sure they mean they want a referendum on any further large EU treaties, much like Ireland with Lisbon. They don't want a referendum on pulling out of the EU - none of the parties will put it to a referendum, largely because they would be afraid it would pass.

I've never really followed the UK's election system until recently, but it really is absurdly unfair and unrepresentative.

Well at least we can actually vote for our primeminster?!

Podge_irl · 01-05-2010 2:38pm

owenc wrote: »

Well at least we can actually vote for our primeminster?!

You don't now, nor have you ever, voted for your prime minister.

owenc · 01-05-2010 2:52pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

You don't now, nor have you ever, voted for your prime minister.

How do you know! :P My parents did!:P:P

ejmaztec · 01-05-2010 2:58pm

owenc wrote: »

How do you know! :P My parents did!:P:P

Only if they lived in the Prime Minister's constituency.

owenc · 01-05-2010 3:07pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Only if they lived in the Prime Minister's constituency.

WHAT!? We can vote for the conservatives!:P I can just get my sister over in scotland to vote for the labour if we wanted them to be the head of the country anyway!:P

Sulmac · 01-05-2010 3:13pm

owenc wrote: »

WHAT!? We can vote for the conservatives!:P I can just get my sister over in scotland to vote for the labour if we wanted them to be the head of the country anyway!:P

The British Prime Minister is not elected by the people (other than those in his/her constituency); he/she is elected by MPs (almost always their own party's MPs if they have a majority) in the House of Commons after the MPs themselves are elected in a general election. This is the same in any parliamentary system - Ireland included.

It's an indirect election, not like the French President who is directly elected.

Israel tried having a directly elected Prime Minister for a few years - it didn't work out.

owenc · 01-05-2010 3:17pm

Sulmac wrote: »

The British Prime Minister is not elected by the people (other than those in his/her constituency); he/she is elected by MPs (almost always their own party's MPs if they have a majority) in the House of Commons after the MPs themselves are elected in a general election. This is the same in any parliamentary system - Ireland included.

It's an indirect election, not like the French President who is directly elected.

Israel tried having a directly elected Prime Minister for a few years - it didn't work out.

Well then how do they pick someone if the whole country can't vote for the same people... only one wee area will get to decide for that particular person.. they should just be doing it for one person per party... im trying to understand this through are history teacher.. she keeps bringing this up through the thing we are learning now which really has nothing to do with this!! Its kinda worthless for her as no one in our class knows what shes talking about and they will just vote for who their parents say!

old hippy · 01-05-2010 3:26pm

owenc wrote: »

Its kinda worthless for her as no one in our class knows what shes talking about and they will just vote for who their parents say!

ejmaztec · 01-05-2010 3:26pm

owenc wrote: »

Well then how do they pick someone if the whole country can't vote for the same people... only one wee area will get to decide for that particular person.. they should just be doing it for one person per party... im trying to understand this through are history teacher.. she keeps bringing this up through the thing we are learning now which really has nothing to do with this!! Its kinda worthless for her as no one in our class knows what shes talking about and they will just vote for who their parents say!

Are there any good teachers in your school?

owenc · 01-05-2010 3:29pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Are there any good teachers in your school?

Yes its called a grammar school!!!

old hippy · 01-05-2010 3:30pm

owenc wrote: »

Yes its called a grammar school!!!

That doesn't necessarily guarantee quality...

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