Footballer of the Year?

gearoidc · 02-09-2013 8:06pm #1

Based on performances to date..
if Mayo win....O Shea a cert?

If Dubs win ...not so sure. McCauley maybe?

Fireball07 · 02-09-2013 8:10pm

O'Shea has to be favourite and will get it if Mayo win.

If Dublin win, it will depend on performances in the final....Cluxton, Flynn, McAuley maybe.

O'Shea could still get it. Cooper the outside bet (I would argue that invidually he has a very strong claim)

andyman · 02-09-2013 8:19pm

Aidan O'Shea regardless.

liam7831 · 02-09-2013 8:37pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

O'Shea has to be favourite and will get it if Mayo win.

If Dublin win, it will depend on performances in the final....Cluxton, Flynn, McAuley maybe.

O'Shea could still get it. Cooper the outside bet (I would argue that invidually he has a very strong claim)

Where are you getting Cluxton from? Everything he did yesterday went wrong

Hammar · 02-09-2013 8:44pm

Michael Darragh MacAuley or Aidan O' Shea.

Fireball07 · 02-09-2013 8:48pm

liam7831 wrote: »

Where are you getting Cluxton from? Everything he did yesterday went wrong

Didn't play well yesterday but he does get a lot of hype. I wouldn't be surprised if he got it if Dublin won.

Hammar · 02-09-2013 8:56pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

Didn't play well yesterday but he does get a lot of hype. I wouldn't be surprised if he got it if Dublin won.

McCaffrey , McAuley and Cian O Sullivan(who has been brilliant this year in my opinion) would all be ahead of him.

elefant · 02-09-2013 9:02pm

Maybe I'm being narrow-minded, or even downright wrong in perception of what the accolade means, but as far as 'Footballer of the Year', I think that regardless of the winner of the final, Aidan O Shea has been the best footballer this year. McCauley, while a super athlete with great drive and vital to Dublin, is not, to me, a super 'footballer' in the total sense of the word.

Just my opinion.

Radio5 · 02-09-2013 9:17pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

Didn't play well yesterday but he does get a lot of hype. I wouldn't be surprised if he got it if Dublin won.

Seriously ? Even if Dublin win and thats a big if, I think Aidan O'Shea is ahead of anything that's there.

ProudDUB · 02-09-2013 9:19pm

It's O'Shea's to lose methinks. But if Mayo get wiped out by Dublin and/or he has a stinker of a game and/or he does something exceptionally stupid or dirty and gets sent off, that could open things up a bit for Cooper. I think that a lot of people would like to see him get one more piece of personal silver ware before he retires.

Even if Dublin win on the 22nd, I don't think that any Dub in particular has done enough to merit it. Many of them have had great games along the way, but it's been very much a team effort so far. If Dublin win, and Flynn or MDMA have an exceptional game, that may win it for one of them, but it will be a very narrow win. I just don't think that the style of play of either of them has enough of the WOW factor for them to get enough votes. Hope I'm wrong though.

keeponhurling · 02-09-2013 9:58pm

The older O'Shea brother. dark horse.

Lemlin · 02-09-2013 10:11pm

Cian Mackey.

Fr Tod Umptious · 02-09-2013 11:13pm

keeponhurling wrote: »

The older O'Shea brother. dark horse.

Yea a good call, but I'd argue that there is another Mayo player that would be a better shout as a dark horse.
If AOS has a poor game, and this guy preforms well, and Mayo still manage to win I think he should get it, but I don't think he will

Oh, I'm talking about Lee Keegan by the way

dirtyden · 02-09-2013 11:37pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

Didn't play well yesterday but he does get a lot of hype. I wouldn't be surprised if he got it if Dublin won.

Exactly, it is voted for by journalists, same as the allstars, and is often given to the player who has been hyped the most rather than the best player of the year.

Cluxton had been having a decent year til last sunday as well. If Dublin win well, there is a very good chance it will go to a dub and he would be one of the likely candidates.

ShamoBuc · 02-09-2013 11:40pm

Aidan O'Shea

Fireball07 · 02-09-2013 11:46pm

dirtyden wrote: »

Exactly, it is voted for by journalists, same as the allstars, and is often given to the player who has been hyped the most rather than the best player of the year.

Cluxton had been having a decent year til last sunday as well. If Dublin win well, there is a very good chance it will go to a dub and he would be one of the likely candidates.

Like last year Alan Dillon got an All-Star ahead of McLaughlin even though there was no way he was better over the course of the year.

MfMan · 02-09-2013 11:48pm

Colm Boyle.

seligehgit · 02-09-2013 11:59pm

Aidan o Shea or Michael Dara McCauley, dark horse Lee Keegan.

Ceist_Beag · 03-09-2013 8:00am

Not a single mention of Sean Cavanagh yet? For me he has been the outstanding footballer this summer.

Stoner · 03-09-2013 8:23am

Yes he had a good year but it was over a little early I think, the performance of Gooch yesterday IMHO took away the remaining chance he had.

keane2097 · 03-09-2013 11:37am

Paul Flynn has been Dublin's best player for several years at this stage.

Gerry91 · 03-09-2013 3:16pm

Colm Boyle for me. Has been outstanding in every game. Will be AOS

Young player- If COC plays final think he'll get it. If not McCaffrey prob will or whoever has a good final out of mannion, KK

seligehgit · 23-09-2013 9:02am

Michael Dara McCauley is now a shoe in for player of the year.

Syferus · 23-09-2013 9:28am

seligehgit wrote: »

Michael Dara McCauley is now a shoe in for player of the year.

Eeeeh. Thought he was less influential than Bastick, who only played something like 40 minutes yesterday. Great against Kerry and a contender for PotY, but not a shoe-in. For me Colm Boyle would be the obvious choice, consistency and excellence personified in just about all his performances this year.

The judges will probably chicken out and give it to MDM or, if they're going 'stars-in-their-eyes' like they did giving Gooch an All-Star for one performance in 2011, throw another one at Brogan.

seligehgit · 23-09-2013 9:34am

Syferus wrote: »

Eeeeh. Thought he was less influential than Bastick, who only played something like 40 minutes yesterday. Great against Kerry and a contender for PotY, but not a shoe-in. For me Colm Boyle would be the obvious choice, consistency and excellence personified in just about all his performances this year.

The judges will probably chicken out and give it to MDM or, if they're going 'stars-in-their-eyes' like they did giving Gooch an All-Star for one performance in 2011, throw another one at Brogan.

Can't disagree with you Colm was outstanding this year although if I was going to give it to a Mayo player it would have to be Lee Keegan.He was superb yesterday and all year round, especially in the first half.
Syferus tbh I just think they'll give it to a Dublin player.

Gerry91 · 23-09-2013 9:43am

Cluxton?

Keegan/ Boyle for me but it'll be a Dublin player

I'd still give 6 mayo backs all stars- won't happen though

gearoidc · 23-09-2013 11:46am

MDM 4/6
Gooch 11/4

stooge · 23-09-2013 12:04pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Michael Dara McCauley is now a shoe in for player of the year.

How come this guy is gets his second name read out and others dont.... :rolleyes:

Aidan O'Shea has been a great player this year but yesterday I think he wasnt fully fit and for that reason I think he wont win it.

homerjay2005 · 23-09-2013 12:16pm

the Donegal game is seriously over-rating Aidan O Sheas year. yes he was immense there, but he was poor enough in the game yesterday and also didnt play anything too spectacular against Tyrone.

MDM, Cian O Cullivan, Lee Keegan and gooch were much better than him, in fact theres about 12 players who'd deserve player of the year ahead of him and 4 or 5 of them are on his own team.

AdpRo · 23-09-2013 12:37pm

Michael Dara McCauley is probably not a shoe in but I think he just about deserves it, Paul Flynn is a dark horse, has been Dublins most consistent player for 4 or 5 years now and is very underrated in my eyes. For Mayo Keegan / Boyle / Seamus O'Shea have been their best players all year, Aiden O'Shea (v Donegal) and Gooch (v Dublin) were the 2 best individual performances.

corny · 23-09-2013 12:46pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the Donegal game is seriously over-rating Aidan O Sheas year. yes he was immense there, but he was poor enough in the game yesterday and also didnt play anything too spectacular against Tyrone

I'm glad someone said it. I agree.

I'd give it to Cian O' Sullivan but MDM will get it.

ProudDUB · 23-09-2013 12:51pm

MDMA will get it now imo. Going into yesterday, it was O'Shea's to lose, but I can't see him winning it after yesterday. I don't think that Mayo even had win Sam for him to get it, he just had to put in a performance on the day, and he didn't.

JFlah · 23-09-2013 2:18pm

Weetabix wrote: »

Michael Dara McCauley is probably not a shoe in but I think he just about deserves it, Paul Flynn is a dark horse, has been Dublins most consistent player for 4 or 5 years now and is very underrated in my eyes. For Mayo Keegan / Boyle / Seamus O'Shea have been their best players all year, Aiden O'Shea (v Donegal) and Gooch (v Dublin) were the 2 best individual performances.

Great shout about Paul Flynn ... has been superb consistently and really steps up to the mark when it matters .. MDM is probably more eye-catching and will more than likely get it, Cian O Sullivan deserves consideration, again superbly consistent. Lee Keegan and Keith Higgins from Mayo .. both well ahead of AoS imo .

Poor_old_gill · 23-09-2013 2:28pm

MDM

Ceist_Beag · 23-09-2013 2:34pm

Given that I don't think a semi final loser has ever won this then I think we can rule out my own POTY Sean Cavanagh and the Gooch. I think there's a good shout by some here for Paul Flynn, I've been hugely impressed by him this season and above all other players in the Dublin team I think he is a leader on the pitch.

keane2097 · 23-09-2013 2:38pm

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Given that I don't think a semi final loser has ever won this then I think we can rule out my own POTY Sean Cavanagh and the Gooch. I think there's a good shout by some here for Paul Flynn, I've been hugely impressed by him this season and above all other players in the Dublin team I think he is a leader on the pitch.

Bernard Brogan.

MaroonAndGreen · 23-09-2013 2:43pm

From Mayo you could pick Aidan O' Shea or Lee Keegan.
From Dublin, Bernard Brogan, Michael Dara MacCauley or Paul Flynn.
From Kerry, Colm Cooper.
From Tyrone Sean Cavanagh.

Unless the final was an awful game with no stand out performers, it was never going to be won by Cooper or Cavanagh IMO.

I think it'l probably be Michael Dara for Dublin that will win it, but I think Paul Flynn runs him close.

Aidan O' Shea was an absolute cert if Mayo won, but not to be.

Utopia Parkway · 23-09-2013 2:59pm

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Aidan O' Shea was an absolute cert if Mayo won, but not to be.

Him getting it would have been a bit strange considering his brother outperformed him in both the semi-final and final. He has the higher profile though.

MaroonAndGreen · 23-09-2013 3:02pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Him getting it would have been a bit strange considering his brother outperformed him in both the semi-final and final. He has the higher profile though.

He would have got it for certain, there was 4 games before that where O'Shea was immense

elefant · 23-09-2013 3:06pm

Forgive me a faux-puritan moment but..

For some reason it would grate with me seeing MDM win Player of the Year. As an athlete he is excellent, and key for Dublin. As a footballer, his skills, to me, seem average. I'd be the last person to knock the skill it takes to play at midfield, but I wouldn't like seeing a guy who doesn't look comfortable kicking the ball winning POTY.

TheGoldenAges · 23-09-2013 3:08pm

elefant wrote: »

Forgive me a faux-puritan moment but..

For some reason it would grate with me seeing MDM win Player of the Year. As an athlete he is excellent, and key for Dublin. As a footballer, his skills, to me, seem average. I'd be the last person to knock the skill it takes to play at midfield, but I wouldn't like seeing a guy who doesn't look comfortable kicking the ball winning POTY.

you must not watch him regularly. He's excellent at the outside of the foot pass and the skill he showed scoring a drop kick goal in the league a few years ago was immense!

elefant · 23-09-2013 3:41pm

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

you must not watch him regularly. He's excellent at the outside of the foot pass and the skill he showed scoring a drop kick goal in the league a few years ago was immense!

I could be wrong- I'll admit I haven't seen him as regularly as some on here, it's hard to catch league matches living outside the country. However, a number of times in the Championship this year he has looked very uncomfortable running through on goal taking a shot. I felt the same way when Kieran Donaghy won player of the year before- I'd prefer more technical players like like Colm Cooper or Bernard Brogan be chosen as the best footballer in Ireland.

As I said though, you couldn't really complain if MDM won it. If it wasn't for his willpower and athleticism Dublin would never have scored that all-important goal vs. Kerry.

Crash Bang Wall · 23-09-2013 3:52pm

Has to be McAuley Cavanagh or Gooch.

They stood out in every match they played. Aiden O'Shea was exceptional in one match, and surpassed by his brother in both the semi final and final.

While a performance in the Final is important I dont think it should be enough to get one for Brogan. Looking at all the counties and the matches Ive seen over the summer, the players that have stood out more regularly than anyone else have been Walshe Hughes and McManus from Monaghan, Gooch and O'Donoghue from Kerry, Cavanagh, McAuley, Mackey from Cavan, Keegan and Boyle from Mayo.

Personally I think that tackle will rule Cavanagh out so its between Gooch and McAuley IMO

Crash Bang Wall · 23-09-2013 3:54pm

elefant wrote: »

Forgive me a faux-puritan moment but..

For some reason it would grate with me seeing MDM win Player of the Year. As an athlete he is excellent, and key for Dublin. As a footballer, his skills, to me, seem average. I'd be the last person to knock the skill it takes to play at midfield, but I wouldn't like seeing a guy who doesn't look comfortable kicking the ball winning POTY.

I see your point re athlete, but his work rate etc is second to none on that Dublin team. Without him they would not have a second AI in 3 years

roll · 26-09-2013 12:30pm

if there is any sense in the world colm cooper would be player of the year-an absolute joy to watch what he does!

MfMan · 26-09-2013 12:33pm

roll wrote: »

if there is any sense in the world colm cooper would be player of the year-an absolute joy to watch what he does!

By the same token, Joe Canning would be hurler of the year every year.
History is written by the winners.....

tayto lover · 26-09-2013 12:37pm

Sean Cavanagh was immense in every game this year.
But they won't give it to him.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 26-09-2013 2:18pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Sean Cavanagh was immense in every game this year.
But they won't give it to him.

He didnt do much against Mayo or Donegal.

Gerry91 · 26-09-2013 5:31pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Sean Cavanagh was immense in every game this year.
But they won't give it to him.

As Dingus said- he was nothing special v Mayo

Won't even get an All Star unless they cop out and put him 12

Midfield is interesting. M McAuley is bang on, which leaves the other between AOS and Cian O'Sullivan

I'd have SOS myself but he's criminally underrated in comparison to his brother. Aidan had one stand out match and while he was solid in Connacht he didn't have as much an impact as SOS, Cavangah, MDMA and COS had all year

You could go as far as saying he went missing v Tyrone and Dub, with Seamus carrying the mantle on both occasions

premierstone · 26-09-2013 5:48pm

MfMan wrote: »

By the same token, Joe Canning would be hurler of the year every year.
History is written by the winners.....

Like fcuk he would a serious talent who had an amazing underage career and a very impressive debut season in 2008 capped by a wonderful display against Cork he has flattered to deceive since.

Gerry91 · 26-09-2013 5:49pm

Footballer of the year

MD McAuley 2/5- Super year and will probably get it. Wasn't as influential as you might expect in the final but was immense v Kerry and is the easiest guy give it to I guess

Colm Cooper 9/2- Best footballer in Ireland without question IMO, that first half performance v Dublin was one of the best I've seen. I think he'll be nominated in the 3. Needed a final appearance to get it I think, unlike Brogan 2010

Bernard Brogan 9/2- Eh no chance. Showed what a terrific player he is, by scoring heavily in semi and final but didn't have near as much influence as you'd expect to get FOTY. Can't even say he won his battle in the final,
50:50 between him and Caff I think and v O'Se in semi

Stephen Cluxton 12/1- Another great year and his kickouts were a thing of beauty throughout the year. Don't think he'll come into the reckoning though and he could've done better for Moran's goal surely. Gave away debatable pen in semi too but shouldn't have gone high regardless

Cian O'Sullivan 25/1- Great honest player. Should All Star but not enough influence to get main gong

Diarmuid Connolly 33/1- No chance given he was nothing terrific in final

Keith Higgins 33/1- Certainly a great shout but probably needed score more in last few games to come into serious reckoning- given he was operating as a half forward- as he was on losing team

Paul Flynn 66/1- Serious contender for me. Probably not as flashy as other contenders so will unfairly count against him. Like he's a far better shout than Bernard and Connolly for me

Aidan O'Shea 100/1- He was odds on sunday morning. No chance IMO, shouldn't all star.

Lee Keegan 150/1- Super shout. Outstanding semi and final where aswell as dominating at half back he had to do the forwards job for them. He should really be in the 3 as he was Mayo's best player in last two games for me and because he seems to get more recognition and plaudits than Boyle

Funnily enough the guy I'd give it to myself doesn't feature in the betting- Colm Boyle

I'd like Cooper to get it but wouldn't begrudge MDMA at all

YPOTY

Cillian O'Connor 1/6- should be nailed on for his third YPOTY in a row. Two hat-tricks and a much improved season. Granted didn't do a whole pile in last two games but McCaffrey (10/3) was anonymous, as was KK (33/1) and Mannion got injured quite early in final and did nothing in semi bar the goal

O'Connor should rightly walk this and the bookies have it right

Has three YPOTY's in a row ever been won? Surely not. Some man

Footballer of the Year?

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