phantom breakfast show - where is Keith ?

Moyet wrote: »

I suppose if enough people complain , Keith will return. I heard he's not very popular on and off air so i doubt that would happen. I personally don't mind him on my 9 minute commute to work in the morning.

He should have brought back the sketch segments that him and Joe used to do on Spin years ago. They were hilarious in my opinion.

He's gone/going to 2fm he's not going to return. What do you mean by not very popular on and off air exactly. I know some hardcore Phantom fans don't like the format at breakfast, but are you saying he wasn't liked by other staff?

Keith was also Programme Director at Phantom. So there's another vacancy going.

Great news. Hopefully Joe will follow soon along with The 2 Dicks.

Im gutted about them splitting up lol. I loved them on spin. They made the commute to work a right giggle. I loved their banter and their sketches. I remember them announcing they were finishing up and their last show jees it was horrendous lol.

My husband is a phantom fan and he rang me one morning to say joe and Keith were back on I was like a cocker spaniel leaping about the place lol. I didnt even know where to find phantom! It was fantastic having them both back. I thought it would be crap without the sketches and they'd have to be a bit more down beat to fit in with the phantom audiences, but they were still the same hilarious numpties. So many times ive laughed out loud listening. Now phantom is always on my radio and I've heard such a broader spectrum of music that I've been missing out on all these years

Im assuming because there was no great announcement about Keith that there was some issue between them? I wonder if they've fallen out? But I take it this time there's no going back and that's the end of Joe and Keith now *sob*

My thinking at first was you couldn't have one without the other. Through Spin and Phantom Joe always came across as the serious radio guy and Keith the funny fella. But then I was listening to Joe and Charlotte on Friday and something he said made me laugh on the bus. ..so that settles it for me...he'll still get me listening

Its a shame reading this thread that they weren't popular with regular phantom listeners, but they never really had a chance if the show before them was so popular. They're not your regular morning breakfast show hosts. ..jim jim and nobby and most of the other tools on morning radio are like nails on a blackboard to me. ..Joe and Keith were naturally funny and bounced off each other so well.

Now if Keith is going to 2fm and they're going head to head in the morning. ..its a bit like being the child in thr middle of a divorce settlement and deciding who to visit for Christmas dinner

Faaaaaaaarrrrrr from even being a good pairing. They were so. Damn. Boring. And just painfully awkward. I'm genuinely surprised to learn they knew each other off air, because that never came across for me during the show.

soc160 wrote: »

They referenced knowing each other regularly, about growing up together etc.. I think if they were on another station they would be doing quite well. Who would you consider a good pairing on radio? it's hard to find a good pairing in my opinion, sometimes its better to just have one.

KC/Lenny and Foley/JP are both miles ahead of Keith/Joe for me.

Vel wrote: »

Gutted! Charlotte is trying her best but its just not the same

Im starting to feel that too. Every time he says this is Joe and Charlotte you feel Joe and Keith is just on the tip of his tongue. I would still hate it if Joe went though. ..

Seems we'll find out where he's ended up tomorrow morning

DavidHabsburg wrote: »

Did you find out?

Haahaa no...the wiley fox bested me

He said on twitter he was starting a new job today so I presumed he was going to be on air somewhere, but it wasn't 2fm this morning.

Ciaran wrote: »

It's a pity that no station seems to think that a breakfast show that with a presenter playing music would get listeners anymore. Surely two idiots trying to be hilarious can't be the only successful format.

Well, Q102 have exactly that, Nova did until recently.

But I guess like it or not the best breakfast shows have always been the ones based around two presenters and comedy. Dermot and Dave, The Strawberry Alarm Clock, Ray Foley on 98, Joe and Keith on Spin back in the day and now Ryan and Treacy on it.

People seem to moan about stations not playing music but these days the appeal needs to be something different at times. Like if Phantom reverted back to a basic music program, just a few links here and there then what's the appeal, people can just listen to their own music device, or stream music on the go.

Actually, they wouldn't even need any presenters, just automate it until 11.

ghostdancer wrote: »

the vast majority of Phantom listeners don't listen for the presenter though, they listen to hear alternative music, otherwise what would be the point of Phantom at all over any of the commercial stations pumping out the same top 40 chart songs.

the pairings you've described could be transplanted to any national or dublin radio station and have the exact same music playing between their "wacky banter", and as you've outlined, get another pairing in to replace the previous lot and it's usually basically the same.

i'm not sure how you qualify "best" breakfast shows either, those shows to me are absolutely awful, lowest common denominator crap that all sound the same.

once Joe and Keith arrived to Phantom I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've listened longer than 5mins. their ccccrraaaaaazzzzzyyyy banter just isn't suited to the station.
I can imagine the many people who've abandoned Phantom over the last 18months would gladly have just 1 presenter who plays a lot more music than any presenter pairing coming out with the braindead rubbish that Joe and Keith did.

Ye, I think you probably missed my point, which was just explaining that it's the usual format. The presenters do make a difference, otherwise what is the point in phantom even having any if people only listen for the alternative music? Theses days it's important to have something which differentiates each station because as you said they all play similar music.

To say you could drop each set of presenters into another station and it would work is bizarre. 98 and 104 are similar, but them swapping breakfast show hosts wouldn't be good, people would follow The Strawberry Alarm Clock and Ray Foley would most likely isolate listeners on 104. Ryan and Tracy wouldn't fit in at either of those stations at the moment either. and then theres the whole national issue which we saw not working for Colm and Jim-Jim a few years back.

I would qualify the best breakfast show as the one with the best listenership and most accolades, not on opinions, which would be The Strawberry Alarm Clock these days.

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Of course the host of the show makes a difference. Richie Ryan, as an example, sounds far more comfortable talking about music than Claire Beck. I'd much rather hear Ryan than Beck, and who is hosting would undoubtedly influence my choice on radio station.

What's bizarre is that a station like Nova, who were gaining listeners like no other station based upon the fact that they played a lot of (repeated) music, have now decided to put in two "goofers" into their morning slot. I know Marty Miller has been with the station recently, but bringing in your one is a terribly regressive step for the station. I wonder if it will be reflected in their listenership figures for the morning time?

Nova make out that they are doing a lot better than they actually are, they are not just a Dublin station really, they are aimed at the commuter area and the areas they reach outside Dublin, so in theory they have a bigger pool of potential listeners, also they are gaining more listeners because they are the youngest station, they have to gain listeners because the starting base is lower than the established stations.

But they are competitive amongst those lower rating stations but there is only so much they can do as a classicrock station, I guess that's why they went for a newer approach breakfast, try and get a younger listener in. Mothers doing the school run etc...

Liam92 wrote: »

Joe & Keith just didn't suit Phantom in my opinion. Their style of presenting didn't work for Phantom and I had to tune in elsewhere because it was stale radio.

The whole comedian duo thing is becoming old and boring, yet Irish radio seems to lap it up. Phantom should hire fresh blood, giving a breakfast show to newcomers and see what happens.

Maybe focus on the music and light-hearted news and see where it goes. Joe & Keith trying to be funny all the time didn't work but Charlotte was good with Richie so maybe with time, Charlotte & Joe will find what works and hopefully I and other regular Phantom listeners will tune in more.

Joe and Keith were the original comedy duo. When they were going the strawberry alarm clock was justin joan and colm and I think justin left and Jim jim came on and then joan left they never brought in anyone else. 98fm were dermot dave and siobhan...till she left and they went to drive time ultimately. It was always just joe and Keith and they were very funny together.

I don't know why comedy doesn't work with phantom listeners.but now the comedy is gone. ..there's a bit of banter and a lot more music and still people sre complaining. I wonder to phantom listeners think they own the station from the pirate days and they feel theyve control over how the programmes go.

All the same its brought in new listeners like myself and joe and Charlotte are nicr listening in the morning so I'm happy.