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  • #5502
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    I see the infographic is produced for Giraffe childcare, but it seems like it would go over the heads of pre-school kids. Maybe its designed to impress the prospective parents.... Yeah we'll make your kid super smart in here :D
    Here's two dubious ones anyway;
    Dinosaurs; more atmospheric CO2 back then, not more O2
    Death in space; less than 1 minute, not 2 minutes


  • #5503
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Something which I posted about elsewhere, which seems relevant to this forum (particularly the latter):
    Two interesting things I came across recently, relating to agnotology (which is the study of culturally induced ignorance/doubt) - one was 'System Justification Theory' - which is a pretty fascinating way of trying to understand psychologically, how people come to hold beliefs which justify the 'status quo' (be that in politics, or even in e.g. academic fields), even given significant reason to believe the 'status quo' is wrong and unjustified. Good article touching on it here, where I first read of it:
    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/05/the_right_has_fked_up_minds_meet_the_researcher_who_terrifies_gop_congress/

    The other interesting thing, was this article explaining how some people (most especially religious people) are prone to trying to render certain facts 'untestable/unfalsifiable', when they conflict with their personal beliefs - how people 'fly from facts':
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-fly-from-facts/

    These would both tie into the topic, both as part of agnotology, and as evidence of many peoples poor grasp of epistemology/philosophy-of-science - and wider, a lack of critical thinking.


  • #5504
    swampgas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭swampgas


    KomradeBishop wrote: »
    Something which I posted about elsewhere, which seems relevant to this forum (particularly the latter):
    Two interesting things I came across recently, relating to agnotology (which is the study of culturally induced ignorance/doubt) - one was 'System Justification Theory' - which is a pretty fascinating way of trying to understand psychologically, how people come to hold beliefs which justify the 'status quo' (be that in politics, or even in e.g. academic fields), even given significant reason to believe the 'status quo' is wrong and unjustified. Good article touching on it here, where I first read of it:
    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/05/the_..._gop_congress/

    The other interesting thing, was this article explaining how some people (most especially religious people) are prone to trying to render certain facts 'untestable/unfalsifiable', when they conflict with their personal beliefs - how people 'fly from facts':
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ly-from-facts/

    These would both tie into the topic, both as part of agnotology, and as evidence of many peoples poor grasp of epistemology/philosophy-of-science - and wider, a lack of critical thinking.

    Some of those links are broken - any chance you could fix them?


  • #5505
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Oops - cheers; fixed.


  • #5506
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Solar Impulse, the first decent solar airplane, now attempting a round-the world trip.
    They reckon when it crosses the Pacific, the pilot will be stuck in the cockpit for 4 or 5 days and nights (its not the fastest plane ever)
    Hopefully the solar cells will charge up the batteries enough during the day to keep it flying all night!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA5cPuhEinU


  • #5507
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    recedite wrote: »
    Solar Impulse, the first decent solar airplane, now attempting a round-the world trip.
    They reckon when it crosses the Pacific, the pilot will be stuck in the cockpit for 4 or 5 days and nights (its not the fastest plane ever)
    Hopefully the solar cells will charge up the batteries enough during the day to keep it flying all night!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA5cPuhEinU

    Beautiful! I want one!!


  • #5508
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    I've watched a few videos of the plane, and everywhere it lands it gets chased by cyclists :D
    It must be like the urge dogs have to chase sheep... they just can't help themselves.


  • #5509
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    robindch wrote: »
    With a refreshingly honest Public Service Announcement from 2:40.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M
    "Hey, remember that time you got polio? No? That's because your parents got you fcuking vaccinated.' Awesome.

    MrP


  • #5510
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Sapolsky on Religion

    Fascinating lecture from Stamford.

    P.S. If you don't want to hear religion scientifically dissected by relating it, in a very witty and informed way, to mental health problems then don't watch.
    Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is an individual religiosity and religion is a universal Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (Freud)

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA7BD1C62ECECA7C1

    Robert Maurice Sapolsky (born 1957) is an American neuroendocrinologist, professor of biology, neuroscience, and neurosurgery at Stanford University, researcher and author. He is currently a Professor of Biological Sciences, and Professor of Neurology and Neurological Sciences and, by courtesy, Neurosurgery, at Stanford University. In addition, he is a Research Associate at the National Museums of Kenya.[2]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sapolsky

    He is also a great author, I can particularly recommend 'A Primate's Memoir'.


  • #5511
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    obplayer wrote: »
    Sapolsky on Religion

    Fascinating lecture from Stamford.

    Absolutely brilliant, thanks for the link. Great way to spend my Saturday morning!

    What I took from that is that the possible origin of religious belief and ritual comes down to us all being like pigeons, wondering what we did that time food appeared or we won a fight, or sickness was cured, and developing these personal rituals to invoke these situations again. Over time these were shared and taken up within communities and enacted by the "one in every village" who was particularly suited to fervent reenactments of ritual (the others who couldn't manage to control their fervour, presumably being driven out of the community for making a nuisance of themselves). Fascinating stuff alright.


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  • #5512
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Very quiet on here today...it's almost as if the entire country has gone to the pub or something:D


  • #5513
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    pauldla wrote: »
    Very quiet on here today...it's almost as if the entire country has gone to the pub or something:D

    *burp*Iss not tha im no talking te ye but iss that is too busy to talk te ye. *hic*


  • #5514
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,473 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I posted this in the Renua (spit) thread on Politics Cafe, but it belongs in this forum really. Deleted it from there as it'd probably be seen as incitement, or off topic, but the fact is we have a new political party being established in this country which is decidedly religious and conservative while being in denial of both.

    ......


    I'm willing to bet my eternal life in return for... nothing at all, except intellectual honesty.

    Religious people detest atheism as a concept. Other religions, they can accept (and rationalise them away as misinterpretations of their god.) But the idea that rational, intelligent people are leading perfectly happy, worthwhile and fulfilled lives without reference to any god at all totally blows their minds, to the extent that they make up all sorts of lies about us - that we are in denial about 'our faith', that we are really a bunch of hopeless misanthropes in denial, that we will convert in foxhole/deathbed, etc :rolleyes:

    The fact that intelligent, rational people are prepared to toss away this so-called 'eternal life' which they could supposedly have for little effort, should cause any theist to think why? Pascal's Wager in reverse. Why would people shun eternal paradise? No rational person would shun such a thing - unless they were completely convinced it was all a fiction.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #5515
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    pauldla wrote: »
    Very quiet on here today...it's almost as if the entire country has gone to the pub or something
    Always a surprise to me -- in the ahwouldyaeverfeckoff kind of way -- why the church doesn't instruct the government to close the country's pubs on Paddy's day instead of Good Friday.

    Surely Paddy's day, the commemoration of the successful propagation of the new religion to this country, should be held in much higher regard than a simple memorial event within the religion itself.


  • #5516
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,473 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    propagation infection

    I don't celebrate the landing of Cromwell or the Vikings, why should I celebrate this other unwanted invader?

    Scrap the cap!



  • #5517
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    robindch wrote: »
    Always a surprise to me -- in the ahwouldyaeverfeckoff kind of way -- why the church doesn't instruct the government to close the country's pubs on Paddy's day instead of Good Friday.

    Surely Paddy's day, the commemoration of the successful propagation of the new religion to this country, should be held in much higher regard than a simple memorial event within the religion itself.
    Tiresome, isn't it, when the observed evidence contradicts your preconceptions? It requires some nifty footwork to maintain your beliefs and still convince yourself that they're evidence-based. :)


  • #5518
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Religious people detest atheism as a concept. Other religions, they can accept (and rationalise them away as misinterpretations of their god.)
    I don't think I've ever met a religious person who detested atheism. Most of the really religious ones seem to make a point of trying to avoid detesting anything. I suspect there's probably a fair bit of variation amongst religious people when it comes to detesting things; it would be interesting stuff indeed if there was no variation. That might even be evidence of a higher power?


  • #5519
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Absolam wrote: »
    I don't think I've ever met a religious person who detested atheism.
    I know one person who can go white with anger at the mention of the word. Not exactly a good ad for the social benefits of religion.


  • #5520
    Absolam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    robindch wrote: »
    I know one person who can go white with anger at the mention of the word. Not exactly a good ad for the social benefits of religion.
    I guess it must take all sorts, even amongst the religious, eh?


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  • #5521
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    A couple of times I have been asked, "how come some scientists are religious?", like it's a 'gotcha' question. Usually my answer was; "who knows what happened in their life, draining their mental faculty"

    There is a myriad of possibilities, but this video deals with one example:(creationist with a PhD)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPyKaH09lpc


    Answer: Creationist scientists are failed scientists. Makes sense.


  • #5522
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I guess J C's "conventional science qualification" probably amounts to being a college dropout. :pac:


  • #5523
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    I guess J C's "conventional science qualification" probably amounts to being a college dropout. :pac:

    Where did he disappear to anyways?


  • #5524
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Where did he disappear to anyways?

    Gone for a real education I hope.


  • #5525
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Tim O'Neill debunks some myths about the Middle Ages. Interesting reading!

    http://www.quora.com/What-are-examples-of-things-that-are-common-knowledge-about-history-that-historians-almost-universally-consider-incorrect/answer/Tim-ONeill-1?srid=h6K&share=1


  • #5526
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Where did he disappear to anyways?
    Still contributing over The Fence.


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  • #5527
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    robindch wrote: »
    Still contributing over The Fence.

    I'm still banned from there. Best thing that's happened to me frankly. Keeps all the stupid, the homophobia, the fundamentalism &c. invisible.


  • #5528
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,473 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Shrap wrote: »
    Looks like an interesting book, although isn't being published till next year: Edzard Ernst’s memoir, A Scientist in Wonderland, will be published by Imprint Academic in March 2015

    Ernst has an Irish Times piece here http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/standing-up-for-the-truth-about-homeopathy-and-nazi-medicine-1.2138835
    Writing in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, a journalist disclosed that Claus Fritzsche, a German journalist who had systematically defamed me for my negative stance on homeopathy, had done this with substantial financial support from five German homeopathic manufacturers. One of the firms paying him was owned by the son of Goebbels, the only one of his children who escaped the family’s 1945 mass suicide in Hitler's bunker.

    Now I had to ask myself whether the attacks against me were motivated by my open disclosures about homeopathy or by my equally open disclosures of Nazi medicine? I had hoped that, some day, Fritzsche would give me an answer. Sadly answering this question is no longer possible: a few months after these events Claus Fritzsche took his own life.

    A short paragraph from my memoir sums it up well, I think:

    "When science is abused, hijacked or distorted in order to serve political or ideological belief systems, ethical standards will inevitably slip. The resulting pseudoscience is a deceit perpetrated on the weak and the vulnerable. We owe it to ourselves, and to those who come after us, to stand up for the truth, no matter how much trouble this might bring."

    Scrap the cap!



  • #5529
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Robert Sapolsky explains how to civilise the world.



  • #5530
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Ernst has an Irish Times piece here http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/standing-up-for-the-truth-about-homeopathy-and-nazi-medicine-1.2138835

    Thanks for that. He's certainly made it his life's work to go about debunking this stuff, and his "hobby horses" seem to have made him one or two enemies over the years. Just looked up his website and even the comments on his blogs make very interesting reading (and some lessons in how to debate this stuff rationally). http://edzardernst.com/2015/03/15-arguments-for-homeopathy/#comments


  • #5531
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Bertrand Russell's Liberal Decalogue

    1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
    2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.
    3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
    4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
    5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.
    6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.
    7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.
    8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent than in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.
    9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
    10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool’s paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness.

    From brainpickings


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  • #5532
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    pauldla wrote: »
    Bertrand Russell's Liberal Decalogue

    Should be renamed the 10 rules for research and development diplomacy in meetings, I am about to send it round to my co workers.


  • #5533
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Following from earlier discussion, the World Health Organization, lists the glyphosate herbicide (in Monsanto's Roundup) - as 'probably carcinogenic'; this is one of the most commonly used herbicides (and with many GM crops being specifically engineered for use with Roundup):
    http://triplecrisis.com/world-health-organization-gm-crop-herbicide-a-probable-carcinogen/


  • #5534
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    KomradeBishop wrote: »
    Following from earlier discussion, the World Health Organization, lists the glyphosate herbicide (in Monsanto's Roundup) - as 'probably carcinogenic'; this is one of the most commonly used herbicides (and with many GM crops being specifically engineered for use with Roundup):
    http://triplecrisis.com/world-health-organization-gm-crop-herbicide-a-probable-carcinogen/

    Hmm. It seems it has joined "being a fry cook" and "cutting hair" in the cancer risk leagues: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/widely-used-herbicide-linked-to-cancer/
    Some academic scientists have sounded notes of caution over the IARC report. Oliver Jones, an analytical chemist at RMIT University in Melbourne, told the Science Media Center in London: “IARC evaluations are usually very good, but to me the evidence cited here appears a bit thin.” He added: “From a personal perspective, I am a vegetarian so I eat a lot of vegetables and I’m not worried by this report.”


  • #5535
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    As well as "petrochemical refining" as a profession, exposure to UVA/UVB, exposure to lead, mustard-gas-derived chemotherapy agents (and other cancer therapy drugs) and nitrates/nitrites (well known cancer risk in many foods) - none of these are equivalent in risk though, they are all just in the same grouping:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens

    Interesting that you select the most easily-played-down class 2A carcinogens though, and pour doubt on them as a whole, as if they are all equivalent.


  • #5536
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    KomradeBishop wrote: »
    ...none of these are equivalent in risk...

    Well, yes. That's my point. When we have consensus about the level of risk, I'll decide whether or not to panic.


  • #5537
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Nobody's saying to panic; what this does, is undermine the current consensus that there is no risk, so I don't see the need to try and pour doubt on it.


  • #5538
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Out of the 3 listed Cat 2a carcinogens in that scientificamerican.com article, I have 2 on my shelf, for use in the garden; malathion and glyphosphate. But I reckon I'll be fine so long as I don't drink them, or dye my hair with them.

    So the salient points are;
    1. Don't ingest or absorb toxic chemicals (they are "probably" bad for you)
    2. This has SFA to do with whether GM foods are bad for you.


  • #5539
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    At no point before or after this report did I think that herbicides would be a good thing to eat drink or touch.


  • #5540
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    There was never a suggestion inherent in the report that GM foods are bad for you, or that ingesting herbicides would be a good idea - it is known however, that GM foods which rely upon heavy use of roundup, are often highly contaminated with roundup/glyphosate - i.e. involve ingesting this probably cancerous herbicide.

    So obviously, the new report indicates that foods contaminated with glyphosate - a well documented issue, as far as I can tell from an initial search - is definitely a problem and probably a cancer risk.


  • #5541
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Right, but the anti-GM brigade conducts a fairly successful campaign to conflate the toxicity of herbicides with the toxicity of GM foods. Even though you are far more likely to be ingesting glyphosphate and other herbicides and pesticides via non- GM foods. Make that "definitely" ingesting them through non-GM in Ireland.
    Some GM crops are less likely to contain toxic chemicals than non GM equivalents, such as the GM blight resistant potatoes I linked to earlier.


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  • #5542
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Why are you lumping me in with the 'anti-GM brigade'? There's a danger here, of downplaying valid concerns, just because you perceive someone to be on the opposite 'side' of a debate.

    I'm not talking about toxic herbicides/pesticides in general either, I'm talking about glyphosate specifically, so it's a bit odd to see the concerns with glyphosate get played down using whataboutery - i.e. 'What about these other herbicides? Or what about these other non-GM foods, containing glyphosate?'.

    I mean fair enough, those are other valid concerns as well (in addition to, not in competition with, glyphosate) - but I don't see why they should distract from the issues with glyphosate specifically, or the GM foods relying specifically on glyphosate.

    I'd be pro-GM, but extremely hyper-skeptical (bordering on cynical) of the ethics/standards of the biotech/GM industry; a lot of other pro-GM folk don't seem to have that skepticism/cynicism, even though it is well-earned by that industry.


  • #5543
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    KomradeBishop wrote: »
    .. but I don't see why they should distract from the issues with glyphosate specifically..
    If you are only concerned with that one chemical, stop eating crops sprayed with it shortly before harvest, such as potatoes, which frequently are.
    Glyphosate is in common use, but is not a GM issue in this part of the world.


  • #5544
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    http://aeon.co/magazine/culture/why-does-god-care-only-about-stuff-that-matters/

    an article on why people assume that god cares so much about 'misbehaviour'.


  • #5545
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    "Going Clear" is a new documentary film which delivers a significant pwnage of Scientology. The film is based upon the book of the same name.

    In turn, the book itself is based upon a New Yorker article called "The Apostate" and to celebrate the film's release and success, the magazine has made the original 25,000 word article available:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/02/14/the-apostate-lawrence-wright?mbid=social_facebook


  • #5546
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I thought this was cool , what are the chances of having an atheist camp for kids in Ireland....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URDmkafg9Kk

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5547
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    silverharp wrote: »
    I thought this was cool , what are the chances of having an atheist camp for kids in Ireland....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URDmkafg9Kk

    Better than they were 30 years ago, that's for sure.


  • #5548
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,473 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Derp. Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors conference.

    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/gardai-concerned-that-walkie-talkie-sets-pose-risks-to-their-health-31106348.html
    Association vice president Willie Gleeson said Tetra was an encrypted and safe radio system, that could not be hacked.

    But he said members were concerned about the health issues and an investigation should be carried out now to determine if action should be taken.

    He said some experts had warned that using the Tetra sets indoors was similar to being in a microwave oven.

    The only protection for gardai using their sets in a patrol vehicle was to wind down the windows.

    Well I suppose that winding down the windows would let the nasty microwaves out. That's logical. Our finest anti-criminal minds are at work here.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #5549
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Well I suppose that winding down the windows would let the nasty microwaves out. That's logical. Our finest anti-criminal minds are at work here.

    Completely logical. Lets out excess steam. :p


  • #5550
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Derp. Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors conference.

    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/gardai-concerned-that-walkie-talkie-sets-pose-risks-to-their-health-31106348.html



    Well I suppose that winding down the windows would let the nasty microwaves out. That's logical. Our finest anti-criminal minds are at work here.
    And that was published yesterday, barely. I was hoping the explanation would be the day that's in it.


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  • #5551
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    I note on the data sheet that it provides up to 10w transmit power. That would be one ninetieth the cooking power of a 900w microwave, plus it's not 'aimed' at the "food". :rolleyes:


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