Michael Bay's....Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?!

Turtwig · 30-07-2014 5:20pm

The cynic in me thinks that was intentional to get more publicity.

norrie rugger · 30-07-2014 5:58pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Release date for the movie in Australia September 11 (9/11)
Paramount had to apologize.

Did something happen in Australia, on that date?

cena · 30-07-2014 8:17pm

norrie rugger wrote: »

Did something happen in Australia, on that date?

I would say it more to do with 9/11 as it affected the world at that date.
I could be wrong

The Gibzilla · 30-07-2014 10:06pm

cena wrote: »

I would say it more to do with 9/11 as it affected the world at that date.
I could be wrong

It was also the date my pet turtle died. Paramount you insensitive b*stards!

pixelburp · 30-07-2014 11:12pm

I seem to remember the producer of TMNT demolishing most of downtown Chicago in Transformers 3, yet nobody batted an eyelid. Hard to see this as anything other than a cheap way to drum up some publicity in the morning free-papers.

gagomes · 07-08-2014 8:41am

According to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/releaseinfo) the movie was released in U.S last week and it's only going to be released here in 2 months, wtf is going on? I've never seen a release phased so far apart, any reason for this?

07-08-2014 9:02pm

gagomes wrote: »

According to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/releaseinfo) the movie was released in U.S last week and it's only going to be released here in 2 months, wtf is going on? I've never seen a release phased so far apart, any reason for this?

It's released this week in the US, tomorrow in fact.

krudler · 07-08-2014 9:15pm

There's some showings here tonight I'll be seeing it in a few hours, rock bottom expectations tbh I cant imagine it's going to be any way good but oh well.

Mr Freeze · 07-08-2014 10:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's released this week in the US, tomorrow in fact.

That's unusual these days to have so long between the US and European releases?

07-08-2014 10:46pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

That's unusual these days to have so long between the US and European releases?

Unusual but not unheard of. Generally it's Disney who still have the stagnated releases but I'm assuming that this was done so that they could resuse much of the promotional material. Reviews are decent enough for the film so you'd have expected a simultanious release world wide. The US home release was schedule for mid October so I imagine that a lot of people like myself who grew up with the comic, tv series and films will simply import that Region A Blu-Ray which will hurt the box office over here.

FunLover18 · 08-08-2014 2:09am

krudler wrote: »

There's some showings here tonight I'll be seeing it in a few hours, rock bottom expectations tbh I cant imagine it's going to be any way good but oh well.

WELL???

allanb49 · 08-08-2014 1:33pm

2 months wait, way to combat piracy Paramount, since June i've seen nothing but trailers, reviews, promo's

now they say the release is in a further 2 months. never seen anything like this.

krudler · 08-08-2014 9:47pm

It's...ok. Not the utter crapfest it could have been but the whole thing is so generic and forgettable for the most part it just reeks of a missed opportunity. It has some really fun moments and the banter between the Turtles is pretty funny in places, especially Michaelangelo who has all the best one liners.
It's about 95 mins long and it could have done with being a bit longer, could have had some quieter moments to build more on the dynamic between the four turtles. They kept the arguing between Raphael and Leonardo in but it's mostly skimmed over, it just barrels along from one setpiece to the next but does have two very cool fight scenes.

One thing though, the CGI, it's ok for the most part but man are they ugly, and if you think the turtles are ugly, wait til you see Splinter, good jesus. I was really surprised to find out Tony Shalhoub does his voice as his vocals are awful, the 90s movie sounded much better. He honestly could be played by anyone, he just sounds like a regular dude, he's supposed to be a giant rat who knows martial arts and is full of wisdom, and he sounds like anyone could have done his voice.

Fox is useless as ever in it though not quite as bad as Transformers. If April was played by someone like Anna Kendrick or that girl from Dredd it would have been a much better fit.

Going into spoilers now regarding the stupid changes to the origin story:

April's dad created the turtles? she named them as a kid? and fed them pizza?Splinter was just a rat who TAUGHT HIMSELF TO BE A NINJA FROM A BOOK! What?!

I've no issue with them changing some things but c'mon now, that's just silly. It also reuses the climax from about a dozen other movies. People will probably blame Michael Bay for it's failings but he's only a producer, if anything if it was even more Michael Bay it might have worked.
I really hate that Transformers style slow down everything in the middle of an action scene to look at how cool this stuff is cliche, complete with Transformers style slo mo sound effect before everything speeds back up again, and it's done about a dozen times in this, half of those in that snowbound scene in all the trailers which is one of the most overblown sequences I've seen in ages.

SouthTippBass · 08-08-2014 10:42pm

So tell me Krudler, do the Turtles beat the Shredder? Don't worry, I can handle the spoiler.

gagomes · 09-08-2014 1:57pm

Awful decision.... I'm truly looking forward to this movie since when it was first announced! At least expendables around the corner... so that will keep me going for another week w/o moaning

krudler · 09-08-2014 4:44pm

gagomes wrote: »

Awful decision.... I'm truly looking forward to this movie since when it was first announced! At least expendables around the corner... so that will keep me going for another week w/o moaning

Expendables is worse :pac:

Reebrock · 10-08-2014 5:24pm

Kevin Nash should have reprised his role as Shredder.

ancapailldorcha · 11-08-2014 11:55am

krudler wrote: »

Expendables is worse :pac:

I couldn't endure the whole thing. I think I might even name it as the worst film I've ever seen.

syklops · 11-08-2014 12:43pm

allanb49 wrote: »

2 months wait, way to combat piracy Paramount, since June i've seen nothing but trailers, reviews, promo's

now they say the release is in a further 2 months. never seen anything like this.

The theory bouncing about the interweb is that the studio know its a turkey and know it won't meet its targets numbers-wise, and so after a 2 month wait for Europe, will blame the floundering numbers on movie piracy.

So they do havr brains in Hollywood. Shame they don't use them to, you know, make cool movies.

Help!!!! · 11-08-2014 12:46pm

its all ready online....started watching it last night

Deano7788 · 11-08-2014 1:17pm

syklops wrote: »

The theory bouncing about the interweb is that the studio know its a turkey and know it won't meet its targets numbers-wise, and so after a 2 month wait for Europe, will blame the floundering numbers on movie piracy.

So they do havr brains in Hollywood. Shame they don't use them to, you know, make cool movies.

Doesn't really tie in with them already announcing a sequel though.

Oafley Jones · 11-08-2014 1:39pm

syklops wrote: »

The theory bouncing about the interweb is that the studio know its a turkey and know it won't meet its targets numbers-wise, and so after a 2 month wait for Europe, will blame the floundering numbers on movie piracy.

So they do havr brains in Hollywood. Shame they don't use them to, you know, make cool movies.

That theory doesn't make a lick of sense. So a studio worried about a potential underperforming movie, would let it loose out to piracy just to save face. As noted, its had a big opening and a sequel is on the way.

syklops · 11-08-2014 3:21pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

That theory doesn't make a lick of sense. So a studio worried about a potential underperforming movie, would let it loose out to piracy just to save face. As noted, its had a big opening and a sequel is on the way.

Maybe it doesnt make any sense, but neither does this two month delay either.

krudler · 11-08-2014 4:24pm

syklops wrote: »

Maybe it doesnt make any sense, but neither does this two month delay either.

Cheaper to reuse the prints and digital files from the States than make new ones for Europe?

I was reading that apparently 20 odd minutes of it was cut out. Strangely for Bay production it feels really short and rushed. Characters just vanish as well and I saw on imdb that Baxter Stockman was in the movie but I dont recall him even in a cameo so it seems like a hatchet job was done on it. From the trailers it looked like

William Fichtner is Shredder but he isn't

ancapailldorcha · 11-08-2014 4:29pm

krudler wrote: »

Cheaper to reuse the prints and digital files from the States than make new ones for Europe?

I was reading that apparently 20 odd minutes of it was cut out. Strangely for Bay production it feels really short and rushed. Characters just vanish as well and I saw on imdb that Baxter Stockman was in the movie but I dont recall him even in a cameo so it seems like a hatchet job was done on it. From the trailers it looked like
William Fichtner is Shredder but he isn't

Are the prints particularly expensive to make?

krudler · 11-08-2014 4:39pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Are the prints particularly expensive to make?

No idea tbh, I'd imagine most big multiplexes are all digital now anyway so there's no degradation between the prints like years ago where some reels would be worn to sh1t by the time a film was a few weeks into a run.

ancapailldorcha · 11-08-2014 4:42pm

krudler wrote: »

No idea tbh, I'd imagine most big multiplexes are all digital now anyway so there's no degradation between the prints like years ago where some reels would be worn to sh1t by the time a film was a few weeks into a run.

It'd be miserable if that was the reason for delayed releases. I've no idea regarding digital cinema. You'd right I would think.

krudler · 11-08-2014 4:51pm

It's an odd one alright, you'd think a kid-centric franchise would get it's best chance at doing big box office in the late summer before the kids go back to school, unless they plan on bringing it out on mid term break in October.
It's an odd film the more I think about it, I'd genuinely love to know what they were thinking with whoever gave final approval to what Splinter looks like, a big "ugh!" went up in the cinema where I saw it when we first see him.

ancapailldorcha · 11-08-2014 4:56pm

krudler wrote: »

It's an odd one alright, you'd think a kid-centric franchise would get it's best chance at doing big box office in the late summer before the kids go back to school, unless they plan on bringing it out on mid term break in October.
It's an odd film the more I think about it, I'd genuinely love to know what they were thinking with whoever gave final approval to what Splinter looks like, a big "ugh!" went up in the cinema where I saw it when we first see him.

Is it really that bad? Bad as Bay is, this is literally the one thing he usually gets right.

syklops · 11-08-2014 5:06pm

krudler wrote: »

It's an odd one alright, you'd think a kid-centric franchise would get it's best chance at doing big box office in the late summer before the kids go back to school, unless they plan on bringing it out on mid term break in October.
It's an odd film the more I think about it, I'd genuinely love to know what they were thinking with whoever gave final approval to what Splinter looks like, a big "ugh!" went up in the cinema where I saw it when we first see him.

Is it kid-centric though? Before this movie were the turtles a a thing for kids nowadays? Or was it a case of they didnt know which audience they were targeting?

Transformers was easy. Adult fans would go see it. Kids would go see it. They are cars and trucks who transform into robots, so even with out a back story kids will buy them. Which means despite the turkey that the movie was, they sold stuff because they are cars and trucks that transform into robots.

I asked my 12 year old niece a few weeks ago did she watch Friends and she had never heard of it. Not didn't watch it, but never heard of it.

There was a TMNT movie in 2008(?) which mostly adults went to from my anecdotal experience. Anyone have any demographics on who went to the opening shows of TMNT?

Deano7788 · 11-08-2014 5:25pm

syklops wrote: »

Is it kid-centric though? Before this movie were the turtles a a thing for kids nowadays? Or was it a case of they didnt know which audience they were targeting?

Transformers was easy. Adult fans would go see it. Kids would go see it. They are cars and trucks who transform into robots, so even with out a back story kids will buy them. Which means despite the turkey that the movie was, they sold stuff because they are cars and trucks that transform into robots.

I asked my 12 year old niece a few weeks ago did she watch Friends and she had never heard of it. Not didn't watch it, but never heard of it.

There was a TMNT movie in 2008(?) which mostly adults went to from my anecdotal experience. Anyone have any demographics on who went to the opening shows of TMNT?

To be fair they've had a fairly consistent presence on TV the last 10 years. There was a series that ran from 2003-2009 and there's the current (excellent) CGI show as well. They each had toylines as well, with the current one fairly prominent in Smyths for instance. I'd say kids are aware of it and it seems to be popular still.

zarquon · 11-08-2014 10:49pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

its all ready online....started watching it last night

A crappy cam for a CGI dominated movie! No thanks!

syklops · 12-08-2014 12:39am

Deano7788 wrote: »

To be fair they've had a fairly consistent presence on TV the last 10 years. There was a series that ran from 2003-2009 and there's the current (excellent) CGI show as well. They each had toylines as well, with the current one fairly prominent in Smyths for instance. I'd say kids are aware of it and it seems to be popular still.

Fair enough,

cloud493 · 11-10-2014 8:03pm

Its bad. Real bad. Bearing in mind, I like the transformers movies when I say, that was diabolical.

Valmont · 12-10-2014 12:14am

Against my better judgement I was going to go and see this out of loyalty to the hours of joy the TMNT gave me as a child. After reading some of this thread, I'll pretend I wasn't sucked in by a movie poster sitting on the bus for thirty minutes.

Why is Michael Bay such a ****?

12-10-2014 12:21am

Saw it this afternoon and its not bad at all, sure it's a somewhat generic big budget action spectacle but there's some interesting characters, some good action sequences which are just the right side of silly and it manages to tell its story in well under two hours. There's a lot wrong with the film, far too much time is spent in the human characters, the villains plan is convoluted and more than a little dumb and the ending is overly familiar but it remains the kind of dumb fun you can easily enjoy and soon forget about.

Banjaxed82 · 12-10-2014 9:26am

Such a boring, mediocre movie that managed to have film called "teenage mutant ninja turtles" yet have zero fun attached.

I nodded off numerous times during the film. Bay's heavy handed visual style was all over this.

Write a decent fukcin screenplay and banish Bay's influence!

OwaynOTT · 12-10-2014 12:02pm

I did like the Arrested Development reference with the mustard and Parmesan cheese sambo.

gagomes · 18-10-2014 10:55pm

I just watched it, it was awesome! It's definitely not trying to continue the story in the same vein as the classic movies, but it was good nevertheless.

razorblunt · 19-10-2014 2:55pm

Thought it was decent, good popcorn-fare.

Megan Fox looks like a busted flush though, awful.

ancapailldorcha · 19-10-2014 3:27pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Thought it was decent, good popcorn-fare.

Megan Fox looks like a busted flush though, awful.

I don't get the appeal of Megan Fox at all myself. I'm somewhat on the fence about seeing this. If a guy who enjoyed Transformers thinks it's bad then, well...

cloud493 · 19-10-2014 5:12pm

I should point out, I have no nostalgia investment in either franchise. I just hated this film. Megan Fox is awful, Sacks as awful, the turtles were badly designed and had bad personalities, I don't know if some of the plot points are faithful to the original show, but if so they're shockingly awful, the effects are bad, and..... I think I'm in a minority here though, cos I saw this yesterday in the same screen as a large birthday of kids and adults, and they loved it, thought it was hilarious.

Kevin Moran · 19-10-2014 6:09pm

Watched this last night, was much better than what I was expecting! Some laugh out loud quips too! Megan Fox neither added to or took away from the film tbh. Would be interesting to see a director's cut with the rumours of 20 something minutes being cut.

Gandalph · 20-10-2014 3:09pm

Annoyed by Fox's frolicking about in hail, rain and snow, only to have perfectly curled and dry hair in the scenes set 2 minutes after all this. Unless she is getting her kit off I don't want to see her on the damn screen!

Cookie_Monster · 21-10-2014 3:50am

Kevin Moran wrote: »

Would be interesting to see a director's cut with the rumours of 20 something minutes being cut.

it badly needs those 20 minutes, if not more. the whole film felt rushed and badly cut together as if there was a lot missing.

constitutionus · 22-10-2014 4:50pm

im not a fan of the books or the TV series but i thought it was alright.

its a hell of a lot more faithful than what bays done to Transformers anyway.

they even managed to throw in some nods to the opening sequence to the cartoon IIRC in one of the action sequences. the individual turtles actually come off as individual characters and even megan fox didnt annoy me.

the show i was at was 2d and mainly populated with da's and their sons and the kids loved it no end.

hell the humour even worked.

as a popcorn muncher i really cant give out about it as it does what its supposed to and doenst drag on for years doing it either.

i'd give it a 6/10.

theres been alot worse this year than TMNT.

allibastor · 03-11-2014 11:18am

I saw the film, twice with kids, It wasn't that bad TBH.

Though with Raphael standing at nearly 7 feet tall and being like the steroid user of the group how was he supposed to fit in the sewer manholes.

Megan Fox could have done without her pouty face in every scene, though Will Arnet was funny in it, though less weasel face like Vernon Fenwick was

Sam Mac · 04-11-2014 8:54am

cloud493 wrote: »

I should point out, I have no nostalgia investment in either franchise. I just hated this film. Megan Fox is awful, Sacks as awful, the turtles were badly designed and had bad personalities, I don't know if some of the plot points are faithful to the original show, but if so they're shockingly awful, the effects are bad, and..... I think I'm in a minority here though, cos I saw this yesterday in the same screen as a large birthday of kids and adults, and they loved it, thought it was hilarious.

You are most certainly not in the minority. This piece of shít should have gone straight to DVD. Michael Bay's involvement should have been a big warning sign for anyone. And Megan Fox, as you say, is an incredibly piss poor actress.

Angel Knightess · 05-11-2014 11:33pm

I haven't seen this as to be honest the moment I heard Michael Bay had a part in bringing it to the screen I felt my spirit sink. I loved the Turtles as a kid and I still have a soft spot for many series and movies incarnations over the years then and up till this. My first impression of the turtles was shrek on steroids, with a lot of moodiness, rap music and constant megan fox pouting and shredder looks more like an escaped transformer.
I know its not made with people like me in mind but I wish someone would shout stop on all these remakes and movie adaptations of beloved cartoons and better, older movies.

Frank Bullitt · 10-11-2014 5:32am

Just watched this...dear god it's awful.

Michael Bay's....Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?!

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