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Raspberry PI $25 PC

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Khannie wrote: »
    Nice. I wish they'd give some kind of update on an expected release date. It's starting to do my noodle in a bit at this stage.


    Nah...

    Stealth launch FTW!

    It would certainly improve my chances of getting my hands on one! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I'd suggest registering in the online store in advance - www.raspberrypi.com. Could save you precious seconds. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Khannie wrote: »
    I'd suggest registering in the online store in advance - www.raspberrypi.com. Could save you precious seconds. ;)

    Great idea man. its .org though and your link is broken. Found my way though. :)

    Any update on when we can get one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    No, the .com site is where they'll be selling them from so that's where you need to sign up to. The .org site is where they'll announce it though.

    So sick of waiting. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Khannie wrote: »
    No, the .com site is where they'll be selling them from so that's where you need to sign up to. The .org site is where they'll announce it though.

    So sick of waiting. :(
    Me too.. Actually cannot wait... Is there even a rough time frame?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭duffman85


    From their twitter page: http://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi

    @hawkz We'll be using the mailing list to let people know in advance when release is.
    2 Feb via web

    Once they announce the date, we'll all be wearing out the F5 key on the keyboard. I think I saw it mentioned in their tweets that they haven't got the boards back from China yet, so release could be a few weeks away - possibly end of Feb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Khannie wrote: »
    No, the .com site is where they'll be selling them from so that's where you need to sign up to. The .org site is where they'll announce it though.

    So sick of waiting. :(

    Yeah your right. hmmm although when I put rasberrypi.com in the web browser it automagically changes it to .org. Strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Big update on this folks...

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/615


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Well....at least there's a date. I can wait 3 more weeks 'til it's in my hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Khannie wrote: »
    Well....at least there's a date. I can wait 3 more weeks 'til it's in my hands.

    I'd be willing to bet you could wait 3 months more if it was held back. :p

    Because you're simply a slave to the fact that there's no other alternative!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Yep. You bet your ass I would wait 3 months. :D I think this is the coolest little piece of technology to hit the shelves in years. €20 computer!

    Realistically I don't think they'll start volume shipping until April / May and I'm guessing all they really want is to have them in schools with the bugs ironed out and a nice distro ready for September.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I'm going to wait 'til they come in a case, I'd probably break it otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    That will be a while I'd imagine!

    I have a few ideas in mind for different cases.......

    lego-lunchbox.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 90 ✭✭windingo


    Whats the latest with these motherboards? Are they available? What are they capable of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    windingo wrote: »
    Whats the latest with these motherboards? Are they available? What are they capable of?


    Here's a good article / interview, which gives a little insight. I'd also urge you to read this thread :)

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2012/01/26/raspberry-pi-modders-dream-machine/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    So who else is predicting a load of disappointed buyers ranting on the Pi forums,
    for expecting a 256MB RAM device to magically be the PC of their dreams? ;)

    We'll definitely have to manage our expectations, I can see browsing on the device to be a bit painful for multi-tabbed sessions.

    But for all the other practical and creative uses that don't require lots of RAM,
    it's going to be a sweet little machine.

    That's not going to prevent a lot of bitchin' and hatin' though!








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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I like the gif. :D

    Yeah, I think browsing is going to be very disappointing on it, even wih a lightweight desktop and a lightweight browser. Funny, I remember having a box around 2000 which had 64MB of ram and was running windows 95 and I never even approached using swap space. Browsing has just become a compute expensive task over the years.

    Excluding the fairly decent graphics capabilities it's really no more powerful than a low end android. Then you're going to have the masses with their first introduction to linux (which can be frustrating in itself). The first 10,000 users though are likely to be fairly mid-range to high-end geeks (like us :D). I expect the effort that those people put in to pay dividends for the less techie people coming after. I also expect development work on stuff like midori (the lightweight browser) to benefit significantly from the existence of the pi. I'll almost definitely get my developer hat on if I come across bugs or issues in the core day to day software and it's a long time since I've considered contributing time to open source stuff.

    Lastly, I don't think it'll be too long before we see an arm v7 version with 512MB of RAM. That would actually be a really useful computing device for day to day desktop use. The laptop I'm using right now only has 1G of RAM in it and I /still/ can't justify upgrading to 2G (running ubuntu 11.04).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Looks like the meme I mentioned came into effect a bit earlier than I expected
    after some "Crapberry Puke" comments on Toms Hardware.

    If you check out the latest news there was a bit of journalistic **** up today.

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/633

    Basically David Braben was being interviewed by Eurogamer for an article,
    and didn't quite specify between the release date for the consumer units and the educational units (which are to be shipped to schools in September).

    Eurogamer got mixed up and published an article saying the Consumer units won't be sold til September, even though the batches will be finished on the 20th of this month.

    So Tom's Hardware followed suit by putting this headline up on their homepage:
    "Raspberry Pi not available to consumers until September"

    Hence the hate comments on that site.

    Thankfully both sites have fixed the false updates now.


    However...

    there's a far more interesting story regarding Wired Magazine that Liz has posted in the comments.

    And after reading it my respect for that magazine has gone down to nil, for being so vicious in getting an article from them, and publishing a completely made up BOM (Bill of Materials) for the Raspberry Pi.

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/633#comment-11201
    Liz wrote:
    "Wired asked us to give them a copy of our BOM. We told them we couldn’t do that because it’d land us in hot water with our suppliers (particularly Hynix and Broadcom); if their other customers were to use our BOM to demand similar pricing, we’d be in trouble. So instead, they *made up* a BOM (which was gratuitously wrong). They told us they were doing this, and we asked them not to; saying we’d be happier for no article to appear at all. They published it anyway. Our suppliers started getting calls from their other customers, as predicted; we had a lot of apologising to do.

    Slightly less serious, but still damned annoying: Wired also demanded pictures of a cased version of the final board. This was well before Christmas, at which point we didn’t *have* any beta or final boards, still less any cased ones (the cases are being finished after the board themselves are finished at the end of this month). They didn’t take no for an answer, and kept asking, and asking, and asking…and then photoshopped a case onto an alpha board (wrong size, wrong proportions) for their magazine. Which is misleading, but it’s nothing like as damaging as their efforts with the BOM were.

    Needless to say, they’re off the list for press samples, and they’re not getting any more interviews either
    (they ran Rob ragged in preparation for this, then never used any of the material they’d got from him). Wired seem to believe they’re still as relevant as they were in 1998. Luckily for us, they’re not; we’ve interacted with hundreds of journalists over the last six months or so, and not a single one of them has been as hard to work with as Wired were."


    Good on the Raspberry Pi team for refusing to give Wired magazine any future press info after how they were treated.

    It's not like they'll be losing much press anyway, with all the positive coverage and attention the project is getting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Raspberry Pi is full of binary blobs and closed source sections. Wouldn't bother with it rly particularly not when its made in Chickity China land


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    eth0 wrote: »
    Raspberry Pi is full of binary blobs and closed source sections. Wouldn't bother with it rly particularly not when its made in Chickity China land


    Why?? Exactly what would you intend on doing with it? If trying to take over the world with it, Pinky might be best advised to inform Brain that this device wont suit that need.

    However, if you plan on using it for a bit of programming / device control application development or even something like a home media device, you'd be hard pushed to do much better.

    IMO an excellent little device that could be used for all sorts of applications from media / HDCP applications to even form the backbone of a fairly sophisticated alarm system if you wanted to put your mind to it.

    The possibilities are endless.

    How about a media server that doubled as your home's alarm system? All in a little device controlled by your iPhone strapped to the back of your TV.

    These types of devices have the potential to absolutely revolutionise how we interact with electronics, and control every day items at home or in work.

    All it takes is a little imagination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    A comment with "rly" in it and "chickity china land" isn't worth replying to really.

    It just means 1 less bogie in my airspace during the "scramble" on launch day. ;)

    I've been playing Ace Combat 5 too much today. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Just bought an SD card reader (from DX) for the potential Raspi. Only €2 delivered :D

    Oh, and a mini blowtorch for a bit of fun.

    On topic, I really hope this thing isn't going to require programming it and delving into file systems and Linux commands to make it work reasonably well. Apologies for my ignorance of Linux based OSes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭GreenWolfe


    Confab wrote: »
    Just bought an SD card reader (from DX) for the potential Raspi. Only €2 delivered :D

    Oh, and a mini blowtorch for a bit of fun.

    On topic, I really hope this thing isn't going to require programming it and delving into file systems and Linux commands to make it work reasonably well. Apologies for my ignorance of Linux based OSes.

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/645

    They've put up a basic distro based on Debian 6 Squeeze, but according to the article a Fedora distro will be their standard distro for the device. There should be plenty of other distros once people get familiar with it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/645

    They've put up a basic distro based on Debian 6 Squeeze, but according to the article a Fedora distro will be their standard distro for the device. There should be plenty of other distros once people get familiar with it though.

    Thanks, dual booted with Win 7 and Fedora over the weekend, very different to Windows but interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    There's a bit of a learning curve alright, but once you get over it there really is no going back. I've been Linux only for about 6 years now. I'm hoping that the pi will get more people aboard the linux train (although such low end hardware may have the opposite effect).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Khannie wrote: »
    There's a bit of a learning curve alright, but once you get over it there really is no going back. I've been Linux only for about 6 years now. I'm hoping that the pi will get more people aboard the linux train (although such low end hardware may have the opposite effect).

    I'd love to be linux only. Certain engineering programs and games are holding me back. Nothing I can do about that unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    BOOM!!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056556533

    Full PC for under €50, yes please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    I was actually looking at a different Logitech keyboard today which also comes with the free mouse and free shipping, and was going to post the offer on here after I bought it!

    I better hurry up and buy now as the feckin thing will be sold out quickly thanks to that bloody thread! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    keyboard came up out of stock but it let me order so *fingers crossed* I just have to wait...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Edit: Read my post further down the thread to get 13 euro off.

    Right!

    I've just ordered the Logitech K400 Keyboard which is twice the price @ €40.00 delivered,
    but it has a touch pad which is essential for me as I plan to use it on the couch.




    I already have an a4tech wireless keyboard and mouse, but using the mouse on your lap is an absolute pain.


    You also get the free wireless mouse with the K400.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    keyboard came up out of stock but it let me order so *fingers crossed* I just have to wait...


    At what stage did it come up as out of stock?

    I put the K230 into the basket and it's appearing in stock for me.

    There was a user in the Bargain thread who thought it was out of stock also,

    but when he tried it again it was in stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    waveform wrote: »
    At what stage did it come up as out of stock?

    I put the K230 into the basket and it's appearing in stock for me.

    There was a user in the Bargain thread who thought it was out of stock also,

    but when he tried it again it was in stock.

    I think it was actually around 10.40 It went through fine so if it is actually in stock and they're really willing to ship this stuff for 20 quid im sure Ill be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    I think it was actually around 10.40 It went through fine so if it is actually in stock and they're really willing to ship this stuff for 20 quid im sure Ill be ok.


    lol!

    You must be thinking it sounds too good to be true!

    They have free shipping over 20 quid advertised at the bottom of the site, so we'll be fine i'd say! Happy days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Sickened. I could have added 2 discounts to the K400 to get it for €27 delivered instead.

    You can get a 20% off code e-mailed to you when you register a product on this page:

    http://register.logitech.com/logitechreg/index.cgi?lang=en


    Pretty sure you don't have to own a product to register one.

    You can also get another 15% off by entering this code also:
    LOGITECH15OFF


    40 euro is still a bargain but some how I still feel a bit pissed off! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    waveform wrote: »
    Sickened. I could have added 2 discounts to the K400 to get it for €27 delivered instead.

    You can get a 20% off code e-mailed to you when you register a product on this page:

    http://register.logitech.com/logitechreg/index.cgi?lang=en


    Pretty sure you don't have to own a product to register one.

    You can also get another 15% off by entering this code also:
    LOGITECH15OFF


    40 euro is still a bargain but some how I still feel a bit pissed off! ;)

    Just did this :) 47 euro and Im getting 2 wireless keyboards and 2 mice. Excellent.... Might sell the cheap one now... Help towards a pi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭duffman85


    nearly there...

    Ladies and gentlemen, set your alarms!
    Posted on February 27, 2012 by eben

    The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come to www.raspberrypi.org to find out what’s going on.

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/716


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    duffman85 wrote: »

    Thanks so much for posting that, my website scanner failed to kick in, and the database seems to be down on their site! Possibly due to overloading!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭massy086


    duffman85 wrote: »

    so is that 6 am our time or what time will it be tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    massy086 wrote: »
    so is that 6 am our time or what time will it be tomorrow

    Yep, 6 a.m GMT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    I'd get one of these if I had a definite project for one, but all I can think of is a media player.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    matrim wrote: »
    I'd get one of these if I had a definite project for one, but all I can think of is a media player.

    Same here.

    One use i was thinking of, to install it in a car as all-in-one device for 3G internet, music box and navigator. Have to research more if this thingy could handle all this..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    freestyla wrote: »
    Same here.

    One use i was thinking of, to install it in a car as all-in-one device for 3G internet, music box and navigator. Have to research more if this thingy could handle all this..

    I've thought about something similar but you could probably get a second hand Android device for cheap that would do similar with build in GPS and 3G

    Most of my ideas seem to end up needing a touch screen, which when you look at the cost of adding it you are better off with a low end phone / tablet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    What a pain in the face though. 6am! COME ON!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    matrim wrote: »
    I've thought about something similar but you could probably get a second hand Android device for cheap that would do similar with build in GPS and 3G

    Most of my ideas seem to end up needing a touch screen, which when you look at the cost of adding it you are better off with a low end phone / tablet.

    Yeah touch screen cost some money aye.
    I was looking for such Android tablet but couldn't find any fair priced (=up to €150-200) with 3G built-in.. unless pay few hundreds euros for Samsung and such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    waveform wrote: »
    I've just ordered the Logitech K400 Keyboard which is twice the price @ €40.00 delivered,
    but it has a touch pad which is essential for me as I plan to use it on the couch.
    It'd be mad if someone put the Raspberry PI, a 16GB SD card, and a wireless card into the K400 keyboard...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    the_syco wrote: »
    It'd be mad if someone put the Raspberry PI, a 16GB SD card, and a wireless card into the K400 keyboard...

    And some kind of wireless video hdmi signal also!


    The feckin store and main website is down for me, anyone else having luck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Will Probably come online at 05:59am.. :D;)

    Good luck. ;):D

    Somethings happening with .org site now..


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Tockman


    try this link to buy http://ie.farnell.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Got to the final stage of ordering and got errors :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Tockman wrote: »
    try this link to buy http://ie.farnell.com/

    How did you find out about that?

    I'd say they won't have them in stock for a long time, maybe in the 2nd or 3rd batch.

    Lol, even the farnell site is not responding at times.


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