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24 arrests in Waterford drugs haul

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  • #2
    CardBordWindow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    jo06555 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0229/waterford.html 24 arrests in Waterford
    Fixed the link.


  • #3
    abouttobebanned
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    That was quite the sting. Just heard it on the national news there.


  • #4
    mike65
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    Jasus lock up your daughters everything that isn't nailed down.


  • #5
    dlofnep
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    Heard it on the radio dropping me ma to work. Well done to the Waterford Gardaí. They should be proud of themselves. Drugs have been destroying Waterford for far too long now.


  • #6
    mikeym
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    Im delighted :D theres too much drugs around the town.


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  • #7
    longshanks
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    Operation Raptor was set up to target the three main drug dealing gangs in the city and county, focusing in particular on heroin and ecstasy.

    Cool name isn't it, Operation Raptor?
    Also, who are these three main gangs?


  • #8
    kryogen
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    longshanks wrote: »
    Operation Raptor was set up to target the three main drug dealing gangs in the city and county, focusing in particular on heroin and ecstasy.

    Cool name isn't it, Operation Raptor?
    Also, who are these three main gangs?


    I would reckon plenty will have a fair idea who will be, involved, in this. Dont think it wise to speculate using names on thread however


  • #9
    Finneen
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    When will their names get released?


  • #10
    jayboi
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    I wont get to excited yet il wait and see i anyone goes to jail before i get my hopes up.


  • #11
    longshanks
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    Anyone see any of these raids?


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  • #12
    mike65
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    Don't live on Ballybeg, so no.


  • #13
    trinibops
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    did all of this happen in ballybeg nd wat time??


  • #14
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    Twenty-four people have been arrested in Waterford as part of a major garda operation targeting heroin and ecstasy dealing in the city.

    Over 80 gardaí from the local and national drug units searched over 20 houses throughout the city.

    The 23 men and one woman, aged between 17 and 47, are facing a total of 94 charges.

    They are due before a special sitting of Waterford District Court tonight.

    For the past six months, undercover gardaí have been sourcing drugs from dealers in Waterford city, Ballybeg and other suburban areas.

    Operation Raptor was set up to target the three main drug dealing gangs in the city and county, focusing in particular on heroin and ecstasy.

    The 24 are being detained at Waterford, Dungarvan and Tramore Garda Stations.


  • #15
    tobey
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    i always wondered why i knew who they were and were they lived and how the guards didnt, maybe they were just waiting to build a case, ill take bets that maybe four out of the total get charged


  • #16
    longshanks
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    mike65 wrote: »
    Don't live on Ballybeg, so no.

    Because all drug dealers 'live on Ballybeg'?


  • #17
    dark_shadow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭dark_shadow


    Well done to the guards on this one. Hopefully they put enough work in to secure a proper conviction for the majority if not all of the scum involved!! It would be a pity to see them get off on a technicality or something stupid:mad:

    With a bit of luck we might see a drop in all these robberies of late.....I know it's alot to ask but hopefully some good will come out of this:cool:


  • #18
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    How the hell are they going to transfer 24 people to court tonight ??? All in a paddy wagon with 1 cop maybe :)


  • #19
    dark_shadow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭dark_shadow


    jo06555 wrote: »
    How the hell are they going to transfer 24 people to court tonight ??? All in a paddy wagon with 1 cop maybe :)

    Dont know....but I'm going to take a spin down tonight if I'm around and see what it's like down there!:p


  • #20
    longshanks
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    I've watched the two seasons of Love/Hate and reckon I have a pretty good idea how this whole business works. Would anyone care to join me in an enterprising new adventure? The moneys pretty good, I'm led to believe


  • #21
    O Riain
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    Plenty more scumbags to take their places and line their pockets. The war on drugs is lost and the sooner the Irish government realises this the better. Of course they wont though.


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  • #22
    DaleB91
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    ****in delighted all these heroin dealers are getting caught. I know it'll sound stupid but i dont mind the fella dealin the odd bitta smoke like but once you go onto heroin, coke, bangers etc i think you sgould be locked up and the key thrown away.


  • #23
    Hoffmans
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    DaleB91 wrote: »
    ****in delighted all these heroin dealers are getting caught. I know it'll sound stupid but i dont mind the fella dealin the odd bitta smoke like

    it does a bit, cannabis is a gateway drug and some strong strains can cause bad psyclogical damage in the very young people they target the poison at
    ....

    10pm special sitting tonite gonna be lively down that way later....


  • #24
    jayboi
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    I hope they go easy on them and give the a lenient or suspended sentence as im sure they had though time growing up.


  • #25
    kryogen
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    So...........................who went for a look? :)


  • #26
    allthedoyles
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    longshanks wrote: »
    Because all drug dealers 'live on Ballybeg'?

    I would guess that some may have a ballybeg address , but live elsewhere .

    Also reckon it will be the runners that were mainly caught and I bet the ones making the big money are still out there .


  • #27
    deisedave
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    I think I know a few but not quite sure because no names released, the age group fits someone in particular who I think it might be.


  • #28
    kryogen
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    deisedave wrote: »
    I think I know a few but not quite sure because no names released, the age group fits someone in particular who I think it might be.


    The age group of 17 to 50? Sounds like lots of people alright :)


  • #29
    CardBordWindow
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    That's all we need in this recession, drug prices increasing! :rolleyes:


  • #30
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    The age group of 17 to 50? Sounds like lots of people alright :)

    Pm sent btw if your the lad who works in revs you should know him as well, at least to see him but I am sure you know the name. :)


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  • #31
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    deisedave wrote: »
    kryogen wrote: »
    The age group of 17 to 50? Sounds like lots of people alright :)

    Pm sent btw if your the lad who works in revs you should know him as well, at least to see him but I am sure you know the name. :)
    I went down for a stroll seeing a few faces their was a TV camera and photographer taking pics of each as they came from the prison van only 6 at a time I think so it could go on late into the night .


  • #32
    deisedave
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    jo06555 wrote: »
    I went down for a stroll seeing a few faces their was a TV camera and photographer taking pics of each as they came from the prison van only 6 at a time I think so it could go on late into the night .

    It is hard to know if they have picked 24 people up on small amounts or they have an actual big bust. If these 24 people had nothing on them I cant see much of a sentence.


  • #33
    Stokolan
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    Now to expand my kingdom :P

    Any idea when they'll publish names or pictures? wan't see if I know any :D


  • #34
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    deisedave wrote: »
    jo06555 wrote: »
    I went down for a stroll seeing a few faces their was a TV camera and photographer taking pics of each as they came from the prison van only 6 at a time I think so it could go on late into the night .

    It is hard to know if they have picked 24 people up on small amounts or they have an actual big bust. If these 24 people had nothing on them I cant see much of a sentence.
    Ye I know I wonder are any of the big dealers in this 24 arrested , just on rte news said all but 1 released on bail to return in 2 weeks and the 1 has being kept on other charges .


  • #35
    deisedave
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    jo06555 wrote: »
    Ye I know I wonder are any of the big dealers in this 24 arrested , just on rte news said all but 1 released on bail to return in 2 weeks and the 1 has being kept on other charges .

    By the sounds of it, it means they have nothing on them and found nothing much if they had anything I dont think they would be freed so fast.


  • #36
    DaleB91
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    Hahahahah i think nearly everyone expected that outcome


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  • #37
    jo06555
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    Stokolan wrote: »
    Now to expand my kingdom :P

    Any idea when they'll publish names or pictures? wan't see if I know any :D

    Id guess maybe fridays Munster or is that not run anymore?? Don't get the hopes up on billy Mac carthy talkng about it in morning he too afraid to talk bout the heavy things effecting Waterford


  • #38
    kryogen
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    Maybe they were trying to get as many of them into interrogation rooms as possible and hope they can get them to inform on the bigger guys?

    Wouldnt have thought it would be a positive sign that none are being held for the charges they were arrested for, would seem like a bit of a huge **** up though to arrest so many people and break the cover of this undercover investigation if they had nothing to pin to a few of them at least!


  • #39
    Finnbar01
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Maybe they were trying to get as many of them into interrogation rooms as possible and hope they can get them to inform on the bigger guys?

    Wouldnt have thought it would be a positive sign that none are being held for the charges they were arrested for, would seem like a bit of a huge **** up though to arrest so many people and break the cover of this undercover investigation if they had nothing to pin to a few of them at least!


    Why were they brought to court if the gardaí had nothing on them?


  • #40
    kryogen
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    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    Why were they brought to court if the gardaí had nothing on them?

    That was kind of my question.


  • #41
    Media999
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    Still no names? Cmon people.

    Gardai obviously had something on them. They bought heroin off most of them over the past 6 months undercover id say for a start.


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  • #42
    kryogen
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    Media999 wrote: »
    Still no names? Cmon people.

    Gardai obviously had something on them. They bought heroin off most of them over the past 6 months undercover id say for a start.

    Wouldnt think its most of them, and wouldnt say its just heroin.

    The bigger guys tend to not get their hands very dirty and have plenty of runners. They would be arrested in connection with it but the Gardai would be relying on some of the guys they do have hard evidence on testifying against them in that case.

    So letting them all go on bail, if that is the case, would be silly and avoided if possible since it leaves anybody open to intimidation and leaves them all free to corroborate each others stories.

    It will all come out in the wash sure

    Edit: just to point out also, if you knew much about it you would probably be able to work out a good few of the names yourself, if you wouldnt be able to do that then the names will probably mean nothing to you anyway


  • #43
    kryogen
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    Also, of the 18 that were in court, not all of them are interconnected in terms of the charges, and different people facing different charges.
    The court heard that the 18 cases were similar but not all were interconnected, and some of the accused face a number of charges.


  • #44
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Also, of the 18 that were in court, not all of them are interconnected in terms of the charges, and different people facing different charges.

    So are you saying out of the people arrested not all were connected?


  • #45
    kryogen
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    deisedave wrote: »
    So are you saying out of the people arrested not all were connected?

    no saying that of the 24 picked arrested, 18 went to court but not all of them are connected to each other in relation to being charged.

    Not one big group like, more like a couple of different factions of dealers i guess.

    Edit: its quite odd that someone thanked that post isn't it........................................................................


  • #46
    dlofnep
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    Few names flying around the place. You'd be barking up the wrong tree to find out.


  • #47
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    no saying that of the 24 picked arrested, 18 went to court but not all of them are connected to each other in relation to being charged.

    Not one big group like, more like a couple of different factions of dealers i guess.

    Yeah I was thinking 24 would be to big of a group to all be related.


  • #48
    deisedave
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Few names flying around the place. You'd be barking up the wrong tree to find out.

    What you mean.


  • #49
    M cebee
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    I wonder do these raids or seizures do any good

    the people arrested cost money on police time ,courts and prison

    the price of stuff goes up and addicts rob more

    even worse scumbags move in to take their place


  • #50
    kryogen
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    According to Rte only a small amount of cocaine and a small amount of heroin was seized


  • #51
    Finnbar01
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    M cebee wrote: »
    I wonder do these raids or seizures do any good

    the people arrested cost money on police time ,courts and prison

    the price of stuff goes up and addicts rob more

    even worse scumbags move in to take their place

    I have to agree with you here.

    When dealers are taking out, they're usually replaced all most instantly and usually by people that want to establish themselves and are not hesitant in using violence to achieve this.


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