VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

Nonoperational · 13-04-2014 9:05pm

Not a whole lot to be honest. You're quite far from the cabinet.

adox · 13-04-2014 11:14pm

adox wrote: »

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 50170
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 15358
Downstream SNR (dB) 11.5
Upstream SNR (dB) 14.3
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 13.7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.3
Downstream output power (dBmV) 14.1
Upstream output power (dBmV) 0.9
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 11648
Upstream FEC 44

approx 500 metres from the cab following the road.
No idea if I should try and get the profile raised or not?

So seems to have been a change in the SNR. Also not sure what FEC are but both have changed dramatically:
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 50176
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 15360
Downstream SNR (dB) 14.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 16.5
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 13.8
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.2
Downstream output power (dBmV) 14
Upstream output power (dBmV) 1.1
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 18
Upstream FEC 0

Do you reckon vectoring has been enabled on my exchange?

Bog Standard User · 14-04-2014 11:46am

Cyclonius wrote: »

Living just outside Cavan town. Upgraded to VDSL2 last week:

DSL synchronization status Up
DSL up time 1 Days 16:17:10

Line Status

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 18430
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 5118
Downstream SNR (dB) 22.6
Upstream SNR (dB) 15.8
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 21.8
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 8.7
Downstream output power (dBmV) 11.9
Upstream output power (dBmV) 7.1
Downstream CRC 7096
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 297931
Upstream FEC 20

you line should be able for 25mb/7mb maybe 30mb/8mb but your far from the cab so dont expect higher then 30mb/8mb

maclek · 14-04-2014 6:02pm

Hi Folks,

Here are my stats, including revealed attainable rates:

Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 30719
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 8191
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 36304
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 12921
Downstream SNR (dB) 11.1
Upstream SNR (dB) 13.5
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 19.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 7.5

It looks like I'd be better off on a high stability 34 / 5 -16 profile.

Do you have to have evision to be on a high stability profile? The 30 down is actually fine but I'd like to get 12 up.

Can I call vodafone and request a higher profile?

Thanks

PauloMN · 16-04-2014 12:30pm

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 2 hours: 55 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.477 Mbps      102.395 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     20.478 Mbps      102.396 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        9.9 dB           17.6 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      -15.6 dBm          13.2 dBm
           Receive Power:      -24.9 dBm           0.9 dBm
              Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      29.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:        9.5 dB           12.2 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     22.990 Mbps      129.500 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.0    11.7    17.0     N/A     7.3    17.3    25.3   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.0    11.4    15.7     N/A     9.5    17.0    25.3   
        SNR Margin(dB):  9.7    10.4     9.7     N/A    17.0    17.1    17.0   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-25.8   -17.3   -21.2     N/A     9.9     7.9     7.0   
============================================================================

Got eFibre just this morning, I'd say I'm around 100m from the cabinet. Delighted with it, upload speed makes a huge difference to me working from home.

Dublin_Gunner · 16-04-2014 2:29pm

Anyone know how to tell if your cabinet is upgraded to vectoring or not?

AlanS181824 · 17-04-2014 12:40pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Anyone know how to tell if your cabinet is upgraded to vectoring or not?

Low pings seems to be the easiest way to check.

MBSnr · 17-04-2014 2:05pm

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Low pings seems to be the easiest way to check.

If you have

Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      29.0 symbols

in your modem stats then you should have faster ping responses. That doesn't mean vectoring is turned on though. They enabled G.INP which gives the faster pings. G.Vector is a separate thing but I'm not sure if vectoring is turned on for everyone. The F1000 stats don't seem to indicate (other modems do).

ED E · 17-04-2014 2:39pm

Wrong thread bud.

MBSnr · 17-04-2014 5:26pm

MBSnr wrote: »

.
They enabled G.INP which gives the faster pings. G.Vector is a separate thing but I'm not sure if vectoring is turned on for everyone. The F1000 stats don't seem to indicate (other modems do).

I had a dig around the F1000 via the CLI using telnet to see if I could find out if it displayed "Vectoring Enabled" but could only find in Profiles the supported capabilities which didn't list it. I'm sure I saw a screenshot of another modem make that listed it. Must see if I can dig it out.

byte · 18-04-2014 10:34pm

byte wrote: »

Here is mine:

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
Downstream SNR (dB) 8.7
Upstream SNR (dB) 16.6
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 17
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6.3
Downstream output power (dBmV) 9.3
Upstream output power (dBmV) 7.8
Downstream CRC 567
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 3759661
Upstream FEC 960

Before VDSL, I had 10mbit down, .5mbit up. As my speeds seem to never deviate, I assume I'm on a fixed stable profile as opposed to an adaptive one.

Just checking this evening and my stats have changed a bit:

Downstream line rate (kbit/s)	40960
Upstream line rate (kbit/s)	10240
Downstream SNR (dB) 	16.9
Upstream SNR (dB) 	18.1
Downstream line attenuation (dB)	17.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB)	6.4
Downstream output power (dBmV)	11.4
Upstream output power (dBmV)	8.5
Downstream CRC	3338
Upstream CRC	0
Downstream FEC	225183302
Upstream FEC	184

Maybe Vectoring was enabled.

jantheman91 · 19-04-2014 1:29am

byte wrote: »

Just checking this evening and my stats have changed a bit:

Downstream line rate (kbit/s)	40960
Upstream line rate (kbit/s)	10240
Downstream SNR (dB) 	16.9
Upstream SNR (dB) 	18.1
Downstream line attenuation (dB)	17.1
Upstream line attenuation (dB)	6.4
Downstream output power (dBmV)	11.4
Upstream output power (dBmV)	8.5
Downstream CRC	3338
Upstream CRC	0
Downstream FEC	225183302
Upstream FEC	184

Maybe Vectoring was enabled.

I'd cream my pants if I had that ping.

bloodyhawk · 19-04-2014 11:21am

VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 3 days: 0 hour: 27 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.477 Mbps 87.015 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.478 Mbps 87.016 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 12.9 dB 18.8 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: -13.9 dBm 12.7 dBm
Receive Power: -24.8 dBm 0.4 dBm
Actual INP: 29.0 symbols 30.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.9 dB 13.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 27.754 Mbps 121.332 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.5 13.7 18.8 N/A 8.5 18.3 28.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.5 13.0 17.7 N/A 9.8 18.2 28.1
SNR Margin(dB): 13.3 13.0 12.9 N/A 18.9 18.9 18.9
Transmit Power(dBm):-24.9 -16.2 -18.7 N/A 8.9 7.7 7.0
============================================================================

VDSL Counters

Downstream Upstream
Since Link time = 27 min 15 sec
FEC: 10691 6211
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0

Actual net data rate is 87 and i'm only getting 67 max wtf?
Ping is solid though (hope it stays like that this time)

AlanS181824 · 19-04-2014 9:18pm

I was given an install date today for Vodafone, next Friday 25th, which is actually my birthday!

Should be a great present

Hope to get the Modem on Tuesday now.

Can't wait!

jca · 20-04-2014 6:30am

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I was given an install date today for Vodafone, next Friday 25th, which is actually my birthday!

Should be a great present

Hope to get the Modem on Tuesday now.

Can't wait!

What profile will you be on, did they tell you? Like myself you'll really miss sky bb...... Yea Right:D

Mc Love · 20-04-2014 9:11am

Anyone any idea if my line has been vectored yet? On vodafone so should I call to see if my profile can be increased?

This is my speed test from Enniskillen:

and from Dublin - note the jump in ping!

Stats:

ED E · 20-04-2014 3:55pm

Latency is broken on Eniskillen, ignore it. 0Ms aint possible.

Those SNR values are great. Definitely give them a call.

AlanS181824 · 20-04-2014 9:21pm

jca wrote: »

What profile will you be on, did they tell you? Like myself you'll really miss sky bb...... Yea Right:D

The first woman I talked to said anywhere from 85Mb up, but the woman when I actually ordered said anywhere from 70Mb+.

Also, before when Eircom tried to get me to switch they said I could get anywhere from 43Mb+ pre vectoring.

I am around 400 metres from the cabinet so I think these estimates are correct.

I'll be going from 10Mb so almost anything will be a massive increase!!

jca · 21-04-2014 6:06am

AlanS181824 wrote: »

The first woman I talked to said anywhere from 85Mb up, but the woman when I actually ordered said anywhere from 70Mb+.

Also, before when Eircom tried to get me to switch they said I could get anywhere from 43Mb+ pre vectoring.

I am around 400 metres from the cabinet so I think these estimates are correct.

I'll be going from 10Mb so almost anything will be a massive increase!!

More like 0.1Mb when you were with sky. Let us know how it goes on Friday.

AlanS181824 · 21-04-2014 4:24pm

jca wrote: »

More like 0.1Mb when you were with sky. Let us know how it goes on Friday.

So excited!

Curious how to port forward (for MineCraft) on the Vodafone Fibre Router.

Anyone have a guide?

fat-tony · 22-04-2014 9:13am

AlanS181824 wrote: »

So excited!

Curious how to port forward (for MineCraft) on the Vodafone Fibre Router.

Anyone have a guide?

It's pretty straightforward. See pic for my setup. Just be sure to choose the correct dropdown option (R_VID_10) in the interface. It seemed to default to the ADSL instead of VDSL setting when I first set it up, but they have an "Auto" option now so that might have fixed it.

AlanS181824 · 22-04-2014 9:16am

fat-tony wrote: »

It's pretty straightforward. See pic for my setup. Just be sure to choose the correct dropdown option (R_VID_10) in the interface. It seemed to default to the ADSL instead of VDSL setting when I first set it up, but they have an "Auto" option now so that might have fixed it.

Thank you! Can't wait to make use of that upload speed!

PeadarB · 22-04-2014 3:30pm

Just got my line sorted courtesy of those excellent lads in eircom tech support.

Stats -

======================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 2 hours: 10 minutes
=====================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.477 Mbps 98.125 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.478 Mbps 98.126 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.9 dB 10.3 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: -13.7 dBm 12.3 dBm
Receive Power: -24.4 dBm -2.4 dBm
Actual INP: 29.0 symbols 29.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.8 dB 14.7 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 22.892 Mbps 101.848 Mbps
=====================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.9 20.5 N/A 8.2 19.0 30.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.3 19.5 N/A 10.7 18.9 30.5
SNR Margin(dB): 9.2 9.8 9.9 N/A 9.9 9.9 9.9
Transmit Power(dBm):-24.3 -15.8 -18.8 N/A 7.5 8.0 7.0
=====================================================

Wireless -

Ethernet -

It'll take a short while to settle but I'm delighted to get this result.

jantheman91 · 22-04-2014 4:21pm

PeadarB wrote: »

Just got my line sorted courtesy of those excellent lads in eircom tech support.

Stats -

======================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 2 hours: 10 minutes
=====================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.477 Mbps 98.125 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.478 Mbps 98.126 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.9 dB 10.3 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: -13.7 dBm 12.3 dBm
Receive Power: -24.4 dBm -2.4 dBm
Actual INP: 29.0 symbols 29.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.8 dB 14.7 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 22.892 Mbps 101.848 Mbps
=====================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.9 20.5 N/A 8.2 19.0 30.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.3 19.5 N/A 10.7 18.9 30.5
SNR Margin(dB): 9.2 9.8 9.9 N/A 9.9 9.9 9.9
Transmit Power(dBm):-24.3 -15.8 -18.8 N/A 7.5 8.0 7.0
=====================================================

Wireless -

Ethernet -

It'll take a short while to settle but I'm delighted to get this result.

What were your Upload, Download, and Ping to the same server beforehand?

PeadarB · 22-04-2014 8:39pm

jan,
I was connected to e-fibre 30/05/2013. I trialled e-vision and have gone through various profiles in the interim. When I discontinued e-vision I was on a 45/15 "fixed" profile. This moved to the final "rate adaptive" profile today which I expect should attain 95 to 100 down, depending on conditions, and a steady 20 up, I've posted historical figures across this and other threads previously. Average latency pre e-fibre was 37ms with 6.80Mbps down and 0.41Mbps up - across a range of servers.

AlanS181824 · 23-04-2014 3:24am

PeadarB wrote: »

jan,
I was connected to e-fibre 30/05/2013. I trialled e-vision and have gone through various profiles in the interim. When I discontinued e-vision I was on a 45/15 "fixed" profile. This moved to the final "rate adaptive" profile today which I expect should attain 95 to 100 down, depending on conditions, and a steady 20 up, I've posted historical figures across this and other threads previously. Average latency pre e-fibre was 37ms with 6.80Mbps down and 0.41Mbps up - across a range of servers.

Certainly a massive improvement!

KeRbDoG · 25-04-2014 8:19am

Bog Standard User wrote: »

call tech support you have a short on one leg of your line

Eircom have come out a few times now and given me a few excuses/reasons for the SNR issues with my upload;

- local RF noise from pole to house, looking into ESB Networks pole which is 'buzzing'. Line passes underground about 1m from the pole.

- distance from cab. Turns out I'm 1600m from the cab, but I'm getting a stable 30Mbps down but my upload is now wobbling between 2.5Mbps and 3.1Mbps

- it was mentioned in passing that the line from pole to house should be an RF shielded line. Last tech who turned up said they don't run shielded so looks like I might have to

Fun times anywho.

AlanS181824 · 25-04-2014 3:28pm

Before...

After...

Only the slightest bit of an increase...

smemon · 25-04-2014 4:22pm

anyone know if i can do better than this based on the stats? also, who do i call in vodafone to get the profile changed?

PeadarB · 25-04-2014 4:23pm

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Before...

After...

Only the slightest bit of an increase...

Worth the wait - try the server in Carlow.

VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

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