Tallaght not as bad as you think

Lorrs33 · 13-01-2011 2:42pm #1

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

maglite · 13-01-2011 2:43pm

Ok?

cyrusdvirus · 13-01-2011 2:43pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

A thomas cook holiday?

DrumSteve · 13-01-2011 2:44pm

yes it is.

CHealy · 13-01-2011 2:45pm

I know a fair few lads from Tallaght from me following Cork City and meeting up with chaps from Rovers, and they are a sound bunch, been out a few times without problem, just the usual crap talk between Cork and Dublin fellas

jimthemental · 13-01-2011 2:45pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

A lazy version of Finglas?

kfallon · 13-01-2011 2:45pm

And......

seamus · 13-01-2011 2:45pm

Ok, thanks for that Lorrs.

Next up we've got Eoin. Hi Eoin, you're through to Adrian Kennedy, what do you want to get off your chest?

bonerm · 13-01-2011 2:46pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere.

No you don't. That's why some areas are suitably expensive.

minidazzler · 13-01-2011 2:46pm

In fairness, alot of the place looks like a dump, but I would take people from Tallaght as friends over most of Dublin anyday. They tend to be fierce trustworthy people once they know ya.

pickarooney · 13-01-2011 2:48pm

What's interesting about your post is that 'disperse' can mean to distribute widely or cause to disappear. After that I've got nothing; I think was only in Tallaght once but didn't get murdered.

Turtyturd · 13-01-2011 2:48pm

I have my doubts the the OP is from tallaght...he didn't even call it tallafornia.

listermint · 13-01-2011 2:51pm

bonerm wrote: »

No you don't. That's why some areas are suitably expensive.

Yes you do, Killiney is suitably expensive but it has a nice amount of scumbags in it. I from tallaght, and ive lived in cabinteely.

There are scumbags in every nook of the country. from small villages to large metro masses.

Sanjuro · 13-01-2011 2:52pm

I have friends who used to live in Killinarden. And I can assure you, it's an absolute dump. A wretched hive of scum and villany. They couldn't wait to get out of there. There are some parts of Tallaght that are less horrible, but like the estate they used to live in, some of it is absolutely awful.

Uriel. · 13-01-2011 2:53pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

Congratulations...???

evercloserunion · 13-01-2011 2:54pm

Sanjuro wrote: »

I have friends who used to live in Killinarden. And I can assure you, it's an absolute dump. A wretched hive of scum and villany. They couldn't wait to get out of there. There are some parts of Tallaght that are less horrible, but like the estate they used to live in, some of it is absolutely awful.

Killinarden is a f*cking scumhole. I grew up right beside there. My God. It is probably one of the very worst areas though.

TeddyTedson · 13-01-2011 2:54pm

It's called Tallaght City on one of the signs on the M50.
Ah good ol' Tallaght. A great bunch of lads, (and ladettes)

Ush1 · 13-01-2011 2:55pm

bonerm wrote: »

No you don't. That's why some areas are suitably expensive.

Well actually you just get a higher class of scum. Just as gutless but they say roysh and think they're hillarious.

Riamfada · 13-01-2011 2:56pm

I did some Christmas shopping in the Square. For a moment I wondered "this must be what it would be like if I volunteered in Haiti"

edit: that unintentionally came across as a touch of the racism. I meant because its falling apart. Humor fail.

bonerm · 13-01-2011 2:57pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Well actually you just get a higher class of scum. Just as gutless but they say roysh and think they're hillarious.

Exactly. The kind of scum you get in nice areas are more of the Raffles type.

Ush1 · 13-01-2011 2:57pm

Sanjuro wrote: »

I have friends who used to live in Killinarden. And I can assure you, it's an absolute dump. A wretched hive of scum and villany. They couldn't wait to get out of there. There are some parts of Tallaght that are less horrible, but like the estate they used to live in, some of it is absolutely awful.

Donomore is the only really black hawk down territory, maybe parts of Glenshane.

Guill · 13-01-2011 2:59pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

Agh Joe, It's terrible.....

enda1 · 13-01-2011 3:01pm

Went to school with a fair few Tallaght lads. For the most part grand but when there's a bad one, its not the usual kinda bad whereby they smoke a bitta hash, start fights, cause mayhem in the classroom, instead they were more into aggravated assault, robbing cars, drug dealing and all those other pleasantries. Of course not saying it was exclusive to them but for a school where they were in the minority, they were surely in the majority for the more serious crimes.

But Tallaght has really mellowed out in the last few years it must be said, at least in the village and around the Square areas.

Fratton Fred · 13-01-2011 3:02pm

Tallaght reminds me of Slough.

OP, have you ever neen to Jobstown?

Ush1 · 13-01-2011 3:04pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Tallaght reminds me of Slough.

OP, have you ever neen to Joblesstown?

Ah the oldies are the best.

Carl Sagan · 13-01-2011 3:04pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

I have my doubts the the OP is from tallaght...he didn't even call it tallafornia.

I don't think anyone from Tallaght ever calls it that.

It's mostly grand. Killinarden and the Jobstown area are dumps but they're on the outskirts so you don't really have to go near them.

Dravokivich · 13-01-2011 3:04pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

Nowhere else to compare it against then ey?

Mr. Presentable · 13-01-2011 3:06pm

There's about 65,000 people in Tallaght, so bound to be good and bad. Some area to the West of the village are nasty, but most East of the village are OK, some being very nice.

Compare Tallaght with other areas of similar population, Limerick for example, and I think you'd find Tallaght comes out favourably. Finglas has fewer than half the population of Tallaght and still a worse perceived mischief factor.

So in summation, I agree with the OP, Tallaght is not as bad as you (most people) think

CreepingDeath · 13-01-2011 3:06pm

Tallaght is like a human wildlife park.
Best thing to do is lock your doors and close your windows when driving through it.

El Horseboxo · 13-01-2011 3:06pm

It's the same as Finglas. I've lived here most of my life except for a good few years in the US and i've never had any problems. And i lived in the south for a lot of the years i lived here before moving to another part. Yeah a lot of shít has happened here but people outside the place make it seem like they're gonna catch a bullet as soon as they cross over the line.

evercloserunion · 13-01-2011 3:08pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Nowhere else to compare it against then ey?

To be fair, that's a very valid point. I grew up in Tallaght and I never even knew the extent of the reputation it had until I moved elsewhere.

TheZohanS · 13-01-2011 3:08pm

You can't really judge a person from where they come from, or even their accent for that matter, you get stereotypes no matter what in life and mostly it's down to ignorance. I met a sound Cavan person once....just the once mind...

chillywilly · 13-01-2011 3:08pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

I think it's way too late to disperse the stereotypes associated with Tallaght but I'd like to just say that I have lived here my whole life and it is a nice place to live. I hate that it has a bad reputation and it serious pisses me getting slagged about it by people who have never even been here.

It's not as though when you leave Tallaght, suddenly you can flaunt your wallet and your car keys and whatever valuables with the attitude, 'I'm not in Tallaght anymore, I won't get robbed'. No town in Dublin can leave their doors unlocked so why has Tallaght been singled out?

We have the Square and the Luas so it's very convenient. A town shouldn't be judged just because it has scumbags, you're going to get them everywhere. So tell me what it is.

Heres a newsflash Lorrs but nearly every place in Ireland has a stereotype and 99% of the times it should not be taken seriously!!

"Oh your from Cork you muck savage"

"Oh your from D4 you posh b*stard"

"Oh your from Tallaght you knacker"

These are just some examples of steretypes and from my experience when someone mentions them they are only in jest.

I remember I was in a nightclub a couple of years ago and started chatting to a couple of girls in the smoking area. It went something like this

Me "Hey hows it goin".....

Them "Hey, where are you from?"

Me "Ballinteer, and you?

Them "agh we are from Tallaght. Your from Ballinteer? You posh bastard hahahaha"

Me "eh ok it doesn't really matter where we are from"

Them " Ye right your a posh bastard hahaha"

They went on to mockingly laugh in my face because they thought I was posh and from a posh area. I didn't give a rats that they were from Tallaght but they seemed to find it amusing to abuse me because they thought I was from a posh area(Ballinteer is just like any other place IMO). I just brushed it off!

I can understand why you are getting defensive about the place where you live, but can you honestly say you have never said/judged anyone by where they lived, not even in a joking way? Everyone has........but most of the time it's just banter between friends IMO.

chopperbyrne · 13-01-2011 3:08pm

Tallaght is great.

Yes, there are some areas that are bad, but that's what happens when you build massive housing estates and wait years before providing proper amenities.

As someone said, generally loyal people who'd do everything they could for you if you ever needed help.

I'll take that over an inflated sense of entitlement found in other "better" areas.

Hannibal Smith · 13-01-2011 3:10pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Tallaght reminds me of Slough.

OP, have you ever neen to Jobstown?

Jees Tallaght's not that bad :eek:

I live in Tallaght (Old Bawn). I'm originally from D4 though and house prices sent us out to the shhticks. We've really settled in, neighbours are lovely, the luas isn't far away, Square is within walking distance, I really love it there.

But jees, go passed Old Bawn and up to Killinarden, Fortunestown, Jobstown (who the named these places?

:D:D) and the likes and you're into bandit country:eek:

Turtyturd · 13-01-2011 3:11pm

Carl Sagan wrote: »

I don't think anyone from Tallaght ever calls it that.

I doubt someone from outside the area decided to spray paint it on a wall for no reason.

bonerm · 13-01-2011 3:11pm

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Tallaght is like a human wildlife park.
Best thing to do is lock your doors and close your windows when driving through it.

Because of the smell?

rossie1977 · 13-01-2011 3:11pm

outside the area around the square its just a big industrial park really

have to say this though, first time we were in tallaght few years back got the luas down and we went walking around looking for the basketball arena, couldn't find it of course because like everywhere else in this country no signposts :mad: anyway came across this guy coming out of work asked him for directions, he told us we were gone completely the wrong way, so off we walk, about 2 mins later same guy returns in his car this time and tells us he will drop us off outside the gate, so there are genuinely nice people in tallaght

Carl Sagan · 13-01-2011 3:11pm

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Tallaght is like a human wildlife park.
Best thing to do is lock your doors and close your windows when driving through it.

I love Tallaght threads. I usually do nothing to dispel the reputation when I'm around non Tallafornians. Gives me a badass rep.

Hannibal Smith · 13-01-2011 3:12pm

chillywilly wrote: »

Heres a newsflash Lorrs but nearly every place in Ireland has a stereotype and 99% of the times it should not be taken seriously!!

"Oh your from Cork you muck savage"

"Oh your from D4 you posh b*stard"

"Oh your from Tallaght you knacker"

These are just some examples of steretypes and from my experience when someone mentions them they are only in jest.

I remember I was in a nightclub a couple of years ago and started chatting to a couple of girls in the smoking area. It went something like this

Me "Hey hows it goin".....

Them "Hey, where are you from?"

Me "Ballinteer, and you?

Them "agh we are from Tallaght. Your from Ballinteer? You posh bastard hahahaha"

Me "eh ok it doesn't really matter where we are from"

Them " Ye right your a posh bastard hahaha"

They went on to mockingly laugh in my face because they thought I was posh and from a posh area. I didn't give a rats that they were from Tallaght but they seemed to find it amusing to abuse me because they thought I was from a posh area(Ballinteer is just like any other place IMO). I just brushed it off!

I can understand why you are getting defensive about the place where you live, but can you honestly say you have never said/judged anyone by where they lived, not even in a joking way? Everyone has........but most of the time it's just banter between friends IMO.

Can anyone else hear these voices you speak of?

r3nu4l · 13-01-2011 3:13pm

Yup, the problem with Tallaght is it's very big so once a year (Hallow'een) when the buses refuse to go to certain parts of Tallaght, the whole of Tallaght gets tarred with the same brush in the papers.

Some parts are grand, some are absolute total and utter dumps and I feel very sorry for the decent people that live in those dumps.

Ush1 · 13-01-2011 3:15pm

r3nu4l wrote: »

Yup, the problem with Tallaght is it's very big so once a year (Hallow'een) when the buses refuse to go to certain parts of Tallaght, the whole of Tallaght gets tarred with the same brush in the papers.

Some parts are grand, some are absolute total and utter dumps and I feel very sorry for the decent people that live in those dumps.

I knew a guy who managed a local pizza place and they wouldn't deliver to certain areas. Every time they went the driver got robbed and battered.

The Mulk · 13-01-2011 3:16pm

At least it's not on the Northside. Even number post codes rule.

Ush1 · 13-01-2011 3:21pm

The Mulk wrote: »

At least it's not on the Northside. Even number post codes rule.

They call us the northside embassy.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-01-2011 3:21pm

Grimes wrote: »

I did some Christmas shopping in the Square. For a moment I wondered "this must be what it would be like if I volunteered in Haiti"

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chillywilly · 13-01-2011 3:24pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Tallaght is great.

Yes, there are some areas that are bad, but that's what happens when you build massive housing estates and wait years before providing proper amenities.

As someone said, generally loyal people who'd do everything they could for you if you ever needed help.

I'll take that over an inflated sense of entitlement found in other "better" areas.

While I agree with your point about the lack of amenities and a loyal community etc, you kind of made your point invalid by showing ignorance and a stereotype in itself. eg "inflated sense of entitlement".

That's a bit of a ridiculous statement isn't it? Think about it from the flip side....... Someone from lets say an affluent area of Rathgar wrote the post that you did. They would say:

"Rathgar is great....

Loyal people etc....."

Then finish off with

"I'll take that over the jobless criminals found in other "worse" areas."

Do you get my point?

biko · 13-01-2011 3:25pm

I had to google the place.

tallaghtmick · 13-01-2011 3:25pm

chillywilly wrote: »

Heres a newsflash Lorrs but nearly every place in Ireland has a stereotype and 99% of the times it should not be taken seriously!!

"Oh your from Cork you muck savage"

"Oh your from D4 you posh b*stard"

"Oh your from Tallaght you knacker"

These are just some examples of steretypes and from my experience when someone mentions them they are only in jest.

I remember I was in a nightclub a couple of years ago and started chatting to a couple of girls in the smoking area. It went something like this

Me "Hey hows it goin".....

Them "Hey, where are you from?"

Me "Ballinteer, and you?

Them "agh we are from Tallaght. Your from Ballinteer? You posh bastard hahahaha"

Me "eh ok it doesn't really matter where we are from"

Them " Ye right your a posh bastard hahaha"

They went on to mockingly laugh in my face because they thought I was posh and from a posh area. I didn't give a rats that they were from Tallaght but they seemed to find it amusing to abuse me because they thought I was from a posh area(Ballinteer is just like any other place IMO). I just brushed it off!

I can understand why you are getting defensive about the place where you live, but can you honestly say you have never said/judged anyone by where they lived, not even in a joking way? Everyone has........but most of the time it's just banter between friends IMO.

yeh ballinteer isnt posh i got my leg raked by studs just for beating your gaa team

iPlop · 13-01-2011 3:26pm

I lived on the Old bawn road and in Killinarden.Nothing much happens around the tallaght village area or around Old bawn.Now lets take Killinarden ,Jesus what a kip ,Full of nutters in all of the estates there.I have mates in Donamore and Cushlawn and that ****ing place will scare you if you're not used to it or if you don't know anyone.Halloween is something else ,sheer fcuking madness.I remember coming home from work about 10 years ago after a night shift and there was a burned out car in the middle of the road in front of my driveway.I just thought to my self "ahh sure it was halloween last night":pac:

MagicMarker · 13-01-2011 3:28pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

outside the area around the square its just a big industrial park really

have to say this though, first time we were in tallaght few years back got the luas down and we went walking around looking for the basketball arena, couldn't find it of course because like everywhere else in this country no signposts :mad: anyway came across this guy coming out of work asked him for directions, he told us we were gone completely the wrong way, so off we walk, about 2 mins later same guy returns in his car this time and tells us he will drop us off outside the gate, so there are genuinely nice people in tallaght

You got off at the square and went ''walking about'' to find the basketball arena?

lol

admiralofthefleet · 13-01-2011 3:28pm

there is good and bad areas everywhere, its not where you live its how you live

Tallaght not as bad as you think

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