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Cake Man wrote: »

Just wondering what people's views are on this as someone mentioned in a thread here the other day about some PT's talking bullish!t.

Where I'm working there's a health coach/PT guy who runs free classes at lunchtimes during the week and offers free meetings to discuss people's training and diets etc. so I set up a meeting with him there the other week for him to do an appraisal of my diet and training routine. All fine, told me of a few things I should change or cut out but a few things made me wonder. He said to not bother with the whey protein shakes I'd take after workouts as he said they're mainly for people trying to bulk up (I'm trying to cut). I was always under the impression and also what is said on these forums regularly that there's nothing special about protein shakes, they're just a quick and easy hit of protein. Not too sure what he was on about there.
The other thing he said was if I was having a protein shake to not have it with milk but water instead, as the fat molecules in milk counteract the protein shake in some way, really not sure about that one. Have ye ever heard anything about that!?

He also encouraged to eat more in the morning time and less as the day goes on but again just wondering if this ties in with the whole myth of not being able to eat after a certain hour. Cals in v cals out is surely all that matters?

I'll get a chance to meet him again so I can question some of these things. Not trying to discredit him or anything I'm just wondering why he might have said some of these things. Any thoughts?

Protein shakes aren't just for bulking. It's just a convenient way of getting in protein. Once you're conscious of the kcal in them you can use them anytime.

Having them with milk doesn't counteract anything. It might mean slower absorption but it doesn't mean the milk had somehow cancelled out the protein.

Doesn't matter when you eat in the day really.

sivavivek 6 hours ago
lets talk fats? what is fats really? why people suffer from obesity?
FAT, HDL, LDL AND FATTY TUMOR (LIPOMA)

Fat is present in all the food that we eat. Generally, people say
that fat is present only in oily items and coconut. But, fat is present not
only in these items but also in all the grains and all the foods. If fat related
items get digested well and mix in the blood, then it is good fat.
If fat-related items do not get digested properly and then the
improperly digested ones mix in the blood, it is called bad fat. Properly
digested fats are called good cholesterol and improperly digested fats
are called bad cholesterol. Doctors have given them the names HDL
(High Density Lipoprotein) and LDL (Low Density Lipoprotein)
respectively.
If the fat in the food that we eat is properly digested, then it is
called good fat or good cholesterol or HDL. The fat which is not
digested properly is called bad fat or bad cholesterol or LDL. So, please
do not be afraid of the words HDL and LDL. Good fat is HDL and bad fat
is LDL.
When improperly digested fats i.e. bad fats (LDL) mix in the blood,
they get stagnated here and there and form as tumors. These are called
fatty tumors, fat globules, or Lipoma. If the bad fats in the blood get
deposited to the walls of the blood veins, the way inside the veins for
the passage of blood will get blocked and this can cause increase in the
blood pressure. Whichever body parts bad fats enter into, all those
body parts will get diseases. Liver will take this bad fat, convert it into
bile and store it in gall bladder.
In order that the food that we eat gets digested in the stomach,
bile should be supplied by the gall bladder. Bile is a fluid that helps in
the process of digestion. Bile which is created using bad fat cannot do
the job of digestion properly. When bad fat (bad cholesterol) goes to
the heart and clogs the passage at various locations, it is called heart
blockage. Therefore, the only reason for fat globules, rise in blood
pressure, improper digestion, blockage in the heart, etc. is the fact that
improperly digested fat items in the food that we eat mix in the blood.
There are doctors who cut and remove the fat globules. But, after
removing it through operation, do they teach you the proper way of
consuming fat items from then on so that good fats mix in the blood?
Do the doctors who prescribe medicines and tablets to control the
increasing BP teach you the methods by which bad fat can be removed
from the blood veins and good fat from the food we eat goes into the
blood?
Doctors remove the four or five blocks in the heart through
bypass surgery and angioplasty using balloon, etc. Treatment is given
only for taking out bad fats and blocks from the heart. But, nobody
teaches the technique as to how the fat-related items that we eat can
be digested and mixed as good fat in the blood. Instead of this, they
advise us, Do not eat fat-related item from now on wards. Do not
add fat to food at all. After listening to this advice, people
stop eating fat-related items. All these people will end up getting a
bigger disease shortly. This is because fat is an item which is very
essential for all the parts of the body.
Wherever two cells touch each other in our body, only if the
paste-like fats are present between the two cells as covering material
and packing material, the cells can function properly. Thus, fat
materials are present between any two cells. There will always be an
oily matter on the surface of our skin. This is also a kind of fat only. This
oily paste is the wonderful shield which protects us from skin-related
diseases. Moreover, 80% of the fat matter from the blood is absorbed
by the liver, converted into bile and stored in the gall bladder. When all
the food we eat enters the stomach, bile must be secreted for digesting
it.
So, is it right to say that we should not eat fat which is such an
essentially needed item for all the body parts from head to toe? Only
those doctors who do not know the role played by the fat in our body
will advise us not to eat fat items.
Therefore, please do not be afraid of consuming fat items. Fat is
an important and essential item required by our body. Because we do
not know how to properly digest the fat in the food, bad fat goes inside
the body and creates disease. But not eating fat at all is not the solution
for this. The proper and correct treatment by the doctor should be to
teach the technique of how to eat fat-related items so that they get
converted into good fat.
Therefore, in our treatment, fat-related diseases can be cured
only if those having fat-related diseases eat oily dishes, coconut, etc.
We will teach you the secret technique of how to eat fat-related items.
By following this, you can cure all fat-related diseases just by eating oily
dishes, coconut and other fat-related items.
Doctors advise you not to eat coconut-related items. This is funny.
Coconut is one of the best foods in the world. Coconut is given as
sacred offering to God and distributed to devotees in temples. Just
think whether a bad thing will be given as offering to God. Coconut
contains all the minerals and all the other good things needed for the
body. Coconut is one of the best natural foods available to mankind.
Why should we not eat such a food?
In olden days, our forefathers used to drink a mixture of coconut
milk and Palm sugar, and drive away all the diseases. Ask your
grandfather or grandmother. They will tell you what a life-saving
medicine is this mixture of coconut and Palm sugar.
So, whatever disease anyone gets, he can cure it by drinking the
mixture of coconut milk and Palm sugar. This solution is the one
medicine which can cure all the diseases. Several years ago, when our
forefathers took a person struggling for life to a doctor and when the
doctors tried all the medicines and still were not able to cure the
person, the coconut milk medicine was given as the last resort to the
person given up by the doctor.
The coconut milk that we refer to is not the colorful hot coconut
milk which is sold in all the streets nowadays. The coconut milk is
prepared in a unique way. In southern districts of Tamil Nadu, for
preparing a dish called “sodhi, coconut granule is made by grating the
coconut. This is made by making the white material of a coconut into
small fine pieces by grating. If we press this grated material firmly on
our palm and add a little water, we will get milk-like solution. As per
age-old medicine, if we give one glass of this coconut milk to a patient
struggling for life and who is given up by the doctor, he will survive.
Thus, our forefathers used to save lives using the coconut milk.
But now if our grandfather or grandmother is struggling for life, we give cow milk to through the hands of their grandson or
granddaughter and snatch their lives! Therefore, hereafter, do not give
cow milk to people struggling for life. “give them coconut milk.
There will be a small problem in giving coconut milk and saving
life. The separation of the assets of grandfather or grandmother by the sons and daughters will be delayed! So if you want the property of your grandfather or grandmother immediately, then take away their lives by giving cow milk if they need to be alive and be with you for a long time, then give coconut milk and save their lives.
Therefore, coconut is not an item to be avoided at all. By learning
the technique as to how to eat the coconut so that it gets digested well
and is converted into good fat, just by eating coconut all those having
fat-related diseases can be cured of their diseases.
Some people are afraid when they see oily dishes. Oil is an
absolutely essential item that is needed by our body. So what is there
to fear about it? We add oil in our food because our body needs fat.
Therefore, please do not be afraid of oily dishes. The problem lies in the
fact that we are not able to digest even ordinary oil. There is no
problem with the oily dish.
We are now going to learn how to eat oily dishes and oil-related
items so that it can be converted into good fat. So, from now onwards,
we can cure all fat-related diseases just by eating oil dishes and oil related items.

It's quite an acheivement to write a passage as long as that and manage to misuse almost every terms.
Fat =/= Cholesterol
Lipoma =/= Blocked blood vessels

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Holy crap. I don't know what's wrong with me...

For the last 2 days I feel like I would kill someone for apple tart and a pint of milk. Or a scone and a pint of milk...
I am not really a sweet tooth and had nothing sweet in 4 months... I don't even have sugar in my coffee and tea anymore...

Have a scone so?

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I made brown soda scones last night cos you put it in my head. I ate 6.

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Are you eating enough? That's the thing with healthy food, it's almost too easy to undereat.

Other than that you could be suffering from a severe scone deficiency. I'd run, not walk to A&E for an intravenous scone.

You know what's really cruel? I make scones for a living... I see those bastards every day. They mocking me, saducing me....

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Banana flavoured things are the devil.

Shut.the.front.door.

you must be from Kerry.

Substitute with your flavor of choice but c'mon .....

BANANA LOVE

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

I love bananas but not banana flavoured things, support real bananas!

Seconded.

"THEY TOOK ER JERBS!"