Rugby 2011 Video Games

Tomtom364 · 17-06-2011 12:07pm

ajeffares wrote: »

Well obviously, thats because there are so many more teams here. They could get 60-70% of teams here and 100% of SH teams and still have far more NH teams. Of the 31 stadiums only six are NH! I know the world cup is in New Zealand but still it seems a little inbalanced. But as I said before, I don't mind this too much as long as the gameplay is good and online play is well done.

True, but thats what you get when a NZ developer makes a game for NZ and decideds it might as well send it international

Where did you get that information from? Are you sure? I don't think that is the case tbh.

I dont have inside information from the particular developer, however I know people that work in game devlopment and have experience in this kind of thing. I looked at that profession alot myself aswell, (visit EA sometime its awesome).
anyways, developers opinion is that it is too late in the games development to be adding much more to the game. And, Usually, Lisences would be all sorted by about a month ago. (3 months prior to release)

It isnt fact, just opinion based on information and experience.

Stev_o · 17-06-2011 12:07pm

ajeffares wrote: »

Well obviously, thats because there are so many more teams here. They could get 60-70% of teams here and 100% of SH teams and still have far more NH teams. Of the 31 stadiums only six are NH! I know the world cup is in New Zealand but still it seems a little inbalanced. But as I said before, I don't mind this too much as long as the gameplay is good and online play is well done.

Where did you get that information from? Are you sure? I don't think that is the case tbh.

Stadiums are tricky to license since it's a license within itself.

Most teams don't own their own stadium so you wouldn't be entitled to use it if you acquired the teams license you'd have to get a separate one for the stadium.

Gelio · 17-06-2011 12:17pm

Tomtom364 wrote: »

True, but thats what you get when a NZ developer makes a game for NZ and decideds it might as well send it international

I dont have inside information from the particular developer, however I know people that work in game devlopment and have experience in this kind of thing. I looked at that profession alot myself aswell, (visit EA sometime its awesome).
anyways, developers opinion is that it is too late in the games development to be adding much more to the game. And, Usually, Lisences would be all sorted by about a month ago. (3 months prior to release)

It isnt fact, just opinion based on information and experience.

Yeah thats what I was thinking, the we are the best no questions asked new zealand mentality. If you pay to much attention it really p!sses you off.

Ah right, I was just thinking you might know something because it says on their site that they are still trying to get a number of licences. But what you are saying makes sense, draw some publicity every time a new name is announced. Your probably right.

Gelio · 17-06-2011 12:20pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Stadiums are tricky to license since it's a license within itself.

Most teams don't own their own stadium so you wouldn't be entitled to use it if you acquired the teams license you'd have to get a separate one for the stadium.

Yes I agree but I was just pointing out that they have gone to the effort of getting 25 SH stadiums and only 6 NH ones. I'm not surprised or even annoyed. Its a million times better than what we have been getting for the last few years.

faigs · 17-06-2011 1:01pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

This better be worth buying a bloody xbox for.

You won't regret it, Amazon seem to be the cheapest. Get Red Dead Redemption while you're at it, was my first game so any older ones I borrow seem very dated now!

Looking forward to a worthy predecessor to Jonah Lomu Rugby at last!

Gelio · 17-06-2011 1:13pm

faigs wrote: »

You won't regret it, Amazon seem to be the cheapest. Get Red Dead Redemption while you're at it, was my first game so any older ones I borrow seem very dated now!

Looking forward to a worthy predecessor to Jonah Lomu Rugby at last!

red dead and gears and before you know it you'll be hooked

Tomtom364 · 17-06-2011 1:25pm

ajeffares wrote: »

Yeah thats what I was thinking, the we are the best no questions asked new zealand mentality. If you pay to much attention it really p!sses you off.

Ah right, I was just thinking you might know something because it says on their site that they are still trying to get a number of licences. But what you are saying makes sense, draw some publicity every time a new name is announced. Your probably right.

Also, they didnt announce the Aviva. It was leaked and they just confirmed it because everyone was asking.
So that shows they are for certain keeping lisences quiet even if they are solid.

EDIT: btw, distribution is confirmed in France so chances are Top14 will be in.

Roomic Cube · 17-06-2011 6:23pm

Hope the Heineken teams are deffo in it, that'd be the business, would love to play a good game as munster....

if they arent in it might have to do a pro evo job on it "Thomand Reds" haha

jolley123 · 22-06-2011 1:37am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJZLoi9H2A

B0X · 22-06-2011 2:09am

That looks ****ing class!

BTL · 22-06-2011 2:33am

From the rugby challenge forum, it seems like they don't have any of the South African Teams, or the Springboks. Nor do they have England, although they do have the Aviva premiership teams.

No word on the Pro 12 or Ireland AFAICT.

thomond2006 · 22-06-2011 2:58am

Ugh if neither game has all the top tier international teams licensed then playing the World Cup in game won't feel very authentic.

Tomtom364 · 22-06-2011 7:05am

RWC2011 video game has england.
but RC has aviva so the team wont be licenced but the players will be.

Otacon · 22-06-2011 10:03am

Do either have an edit mode, similar to PES?

Tomtom364 · 22-06-2011 10:05am

Otacon wrote: »

Do either have an edit mode, similar to PES?

the video posted up there ^^^ is the Rugby challenge edit mode.

I have seen the PES one but people are saying that RCs editor is equal if not better then it

Otacon · 22-06-2011 10:46am

Tomtom364 wrote: »

the video posted up there ^^^ is the Rugby challenge edit mode.

I have seen the PES one but people are saying that RCs editor is equal if not better then it

Sorry, at work, so can't view the video.

Next question, can edit files be shared?

Tomtom364 · 22-06-2011 6:34pm

Otacon wrote: »

Sorry, at work, so can't view the video.

Next question, can edit files be shared?

Not yet known.

mdu · 22-06-2011 9:45pm

that edit video looks class!

any word on whether this will be released in North America? I asked one of the game shop guys in a store in Toronto and he says 'probably not as no other rugby game has been released here'

Stev_o · 22-06-2011 9:52pm

mdu wrote: »

that edit video looks class!

any word on whether this will be released in North America? I asked one of the game shop guys in a store in Toronto and he says 'probably not as no other rugby game has been released here'

It's region free so you ll be able to import it in worst case scenario.

Gelio · 23-06-2011 12:12pm

mdu wrote: »

I asked one of the game shop guys in a store in Toronto and he says 'probably not as no other rugby game has been released here'

TBF there hasn't been a rugby game in four years so maybe he thinks they are every year and don't go to Canada? I wouldn't be too negative

Sabre0001 · 27-06-2011 12:42pm

Got a preview of Rugby World Cup 2011 at the weekend - no hands on but did see it in action...Any questions that I can attempt to answer? Got to speak to developers for a little while too.

Preview at Clickonline.com

Clickonline.com wrote:

All eyes will be on New Zealand in September with the start of the 2011 Rugby World Cup. However, to tide fans over until that point, the Rugby World Cup 2011 game is set to bring the action to living rooms everyone. Come August, players will be given the opportunity to put speculation to rest and attempt to win the Webb Ellis cup.

When early screenshots were released, fans were taken aback. The shots looked like they belonged in a previous generation console release circa 1998. The graphics have improved significantly over these early glimpses. While still not completely true to life, the game is looking good. Thankfully, HB Studios has indicated that graphics are not the be-all-and-end-all. Instead, effort and focus is being placed on the gameplay.

It would be easy to create the perfect Rugby game if it was as start-stop as American Football, or based on positional movement like Soccer. Depending on what way you look at it, it is a blessing and a curse that Rugby is not played like this. Rugby games have struggled to capture the essence of the sport. Even previous greats were simply a case of shipping it along the line until there was a gap, or an unstoppable player got the ball and steamrolled the opposition. HB Studios is looking to change this and bring the modern game to digital form. When there is a ruck, players will have multiple options. Forwards can pick and drive, the scrum half can have a cut or box kick, or individual plays can be set up with loops and switches. Of course, at the same time, players can go for the traditional flinging it out to the wing approach.

The key to winning the World Cup could be fluid offloading and quick releases. This has been implemented into Rugby World Cup 2011. Like set plays, these relies on pressing a face button in conjunction with the action. Offloading and quick pickups of a loose ball are simply a press of a button. Naturally, there are risks attached. A loose offload could be the difference between a win and a loss. However, if timed correctly it could be the key to unlocking a defence.

Rugby World Cup 2011 is not a simulation game, nor is it a full arcade title. It is a mix of the two that captures the essentials. HB Studios is more interested in creating moments of elation and fun, rather than moments of frustration. Players can undertake mazy runs and possibly wrong foot defenders, players can put in a cheeky chip and chase, and others will put in thumping tackles.

As would be expected, Rugby World Cup 2011 allows players to pick their favourite qualified nation and take them on a rollercoaster journey to life the Webb Ellis trophy. In addition, players can undertake an international test against the computer or friends. If players wish to practice their kicking, or challenge friends to a shootout, the option is available from the main menu. Friends and random strangers can also be challenged online. Finally, Rugby World Cup 2011 allows players to choose a nation and undertake a warm up tour of the opposite hemisphere. If all that wasn’t enough, there is the option to randomise pools and play out an alternative universe version of the World Cup.

The elephant in the room is, of course, another Rugby title that will be released around the same time. Rugby World Cup 2011 has many licenses, but has missed out on the All Blacks and Quantas Australia. General Manager of HB Studios, Alastair Jarvis, said time and time again that they would respect the licenses. So, it is unlikely that New Zealand will feature the likes of Ben Harter or Richard MacKawl.

To counter-act this somewhat, while still remaining respectful of the licenses, a player editor has been included. Appearances cannot be modified but names and attributes can be changed at will. This may prove useful coming closer to the World Cup itself, as there are often some wildcard selections; who would have predicted France’s final squad? Multiple roster files can be created. So if players want to make a superteam in one version that has attributes of 99 all round, another that is completely accurate and another that includes players who missed the cut, they can! PlayStation 3 owners will also be able to share these roster files, so someone else can do all the donkeywork!

Rugby fans have had to wait four years since the last release, but Rugby World Cup 2011 is shaping up to be a fun and exciting title. While it is accessible, there is some depth to it and manages to create a blend of simulation and arcade fun that should entertain across the board. Rugby World Cup 2011 is a title to track until it engages on 26 August.

Stev_o · 27-06-2011 1:16pm

Is it all about top end speed? Every rugby game in this decade has been speed over skill, do certain players serve the purpose of being a good battering ram that can break tackles but not hit that top end speed, or do they all play the same.

Sabre0001 · 27-06-2011 1:44pm

Unfortunately didn't get to touch it myself but certain players seem more able to break tackles. You can also dummy step so might be able to get past full back that way. Would have loved the hands-on to see if there were differences in players though! Sorry that doesn't help too much.

Mr. Rager · 27-06-2011 1:52pm

So much games to buy already, and now two rugby games :eek: i have a feeling my hand will get glued to the controller

PTH2009 · 27-06-2011 2:28pm

think i have to buy the 2 games when they come out.

Rugby World Cup 2011 for the world cup and international tours

Rugby Challenge for the Club teams, Six Nations etc

Guy:Incognito · 01-07-2011 5:53pm

Was in game the other day and spotted a couple of the older PS2 rugby games so picked up the 3 of them for a fiver. Got Rugby Challenge 2006, and 2 of the EA ones (rugby and rugby 2004).

Been playing Rugby Challenge for a bit , its good fun. To my shame its the first time I've played a rugby game. Only thing I'm finding annoyign is when theres a ruck out near one of the touchlines, half the backs line up off behind the advertising boards.:mad:

Looking forward to the new games. I'm very much a man driven by new shiney graphics.:)

colman1212 · 04-07-2011 2:00pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Was in game the other day and spotted a couple of the older PS2 rugby games so picked up the 3 of them for a fiver. Got Rugby Challenge 2006, and 2 of the EA ones (rugby and rugby 2004).

Been playing Rugby Challenge for a bit , its good fun. To my shame its the first time I've played a rugby game. Only thing I'm finding annoyign is when theres a ruck out near one of the touchlines, half the backs line up off behind the advertising boards.:mad:

Looking forward to the new games. I'm very much a man driven by new shiney graphics.:)

Give ea rugby 2008 a go. Loved that game. Great craic.

thomond2006 · 04-07-2011 2:36pm

Rugby 08 was a good game but I wish that had an online function. The computer opponent is far too easy, even at the most difficult level.

Sabre0001 · 04-07-2011 2:52pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Rugby 08 was a good game but I wish that had an online function. The computer opponent is far too easy, even at the most difficult level.

That's one of the things they said they are looking at with RWC2011. Lot of people complained about that so it's going to be tougher to beat the better nations at a higher level apparently. Plus there is online, so that might tick two of your boxes!

tolosenc · 05-07-2011 2:08am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Rugby 08 was a good game

The AI was woeful, they had some of the rules wrong (penalty for crooked throw at lineout) and rucking and scrummaging was a joke.

jolley123 · 06-07-2011 4:06pm

Roomic Cube · 06-07-2011 4:15pm

The HB studios game has confirmed an official partnership with WRU Welsh Rugby.

jolley123 · 06-07-2011 5:00pm

Have to say, I'm not pleased with that video. The rucking system just seems to pile every player in like a scrum, thus opening up so much space out wide. The passing looks very similar to EA's passing. Plus the commentators are dreadful. It's so chopped. However, I'm a sucker for graphics so I'll probably play the crap out of this game.

cython · 06-07-2011 5:07pm

jolley123 wrote: »

Commentary needs a good deal of work still, prime example being around 9:30

Roomic Cube · 06-07-2011 5:22pm

cython wrote: »

Commentary needs a good deal of work still, prime example being around 9:30

I thought the weird stop start try was a bit strange too, he found the gap but then instead of touching it down with a dive or something did this weird little sprint.

Still looking pretty badass though, player editor is class too

Stev_o · 06-07-2011 5:36pm

jolley123 wrote: »

Have to say, I'm not pleased with that video. The rucking system just seems to pile every player in like a scrum, thus opening up so much space out wide. The passing looks very similar to EA's passing. Plus the commentators are dreadful. It's so chopped. However, I'm a sucker for graphics so I'll probably play the crap out of this game.

In fairness this isn't a "pro" player playing. If someone was playing me and did that tactic i just wouldn't compete for the ball untill it went out wide. Notice the lines start appearing as they press X indicating where the players going to ruck are coming from. If you overcommit in one ruck out wide you ll be left short on numbers to help out on any resulting play out wide and get turned over.

Think the passing is very different looks very much like their Rugby League series to be honest. I love how the supporting players turn the corner and try to get out wide looks really good compared to having a Flying V formed like in 08.

Just worried about the backline sometimes the 15 comes into the line then runs away back behind the line.

Edit: Also like the AI in 7.25 draws the player and passes. Hopefully that's a good sign for the harder difficulties.

thomond2006 · 06-07-2011 5:44pm

Hate the grunting after a player makes a pass. Sounds so forced.

Stev_o · 06-07-2011 5:51pm

I think if the passing improves in next month or so this game will blow anything else way.

Look at 10.25 when the Winger recovers the ball, does a sick side step, then proceeds to throw the ball into touch. Would of been a brilliant try scored by the AI.

sock puppet · 06-07-2011 6:47pm

Stev_o wrote: »

I think if the passing improves in next month or so this game will blow anything else way.

Look at 10.25 when the Winger recovers the ball, does a sick side step, then proceeds to throw the ball into touch.

Dunno that seems pretty realistic to me.

CouchSmart · 06-07-2011 9:14pm

Things from the video:

31 stadiums.
5 difficulty setting. This one is normal, 3/5.
5 durations settings.
3 time of day settings.
3 weather conditions.

Have to say I really like the look of it. The organisation of defense and attack line seems a bit iffy though.

Stev_o · 06-07-2011 9:26pm

CouchSmart wrote: »

Things from the video:

31 stadiums.
5 difficulty setting. This one is normal, 3/5.
5 durations settings.
3 time of day settings.
3 weather conditions.

Have to say I really like the look of it. The organisation of defense and attack line seems a bit iffy though.

Who knows now what will happen due to the leak because according to the Devs they'v already gotten a angry email back from a licenser about the footage.

Hope stuff like the backlines will have been touched up.

CouchSmart · 06-07-2011 9:32pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Who knows now what will happen due to the leak because according to the Devs they'v already gotten a angry email back from a licenser about the footage.

Hope stuff like the backlines will have been touched up.

Ah, the devs are just playing the sympathy card. It's not their fault. They have to release videos to retailers, the license holders know this. It's the fault of the person who leaked, they'll be black listed.

Image from the French forum that leaked the video. RD Pro 12 is in if you're to go by this. Brilliant news if true.

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Roomic Cube · 07-07-2011 3:42am

CouchSmart wrote: »

Ah, the devs are just playing the sympathy card. It's not their fault. They have to release videos to retailers, the license holders know this. It's the fault of the person who leaked, they'll be black listed.

Image from the French forum that leaked the video. RD Pro 12 is in if you're to go by this. Brilliant news if true.

If thats real I'm sold, be great to play with the RD pro 12 teams! Officially licenced teams at that!

lynchy101 · 07-07-2011 11:09am

Roomic Cube wrote: »

If thats real I'm sold, be great to play with the RD pro 12 teams! Officially licenced teams at that!

That cant be real or else Super 15 would be on the cover

Sabre0001 · 07-07-2011 11:21am

They also dropped the Jonah Lomu tagline as far as I remember...

cython · 07-07-2011 1:27pm

Also, for any kind of official artwork (even early mock up), the franchise logos on the bottom all look very pixellated and low-resolution - you would imagine anyone internal would be able to get good quality versions of logos for anyone who had agreed to grant them a license, would you not?