UPC Horizon Launched

greenman09 · 17-08-2013 5:15pm

Yeah will look at this during week see what they say. Not paying to upgrade

Mimikyu · 17-08-2013 5:16pm

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GerardMambu · 17-08-2013 5:34pm

At around 5:25pm, I noticed that BBC2 and BBC2HD don't show the same program , how weird is that , first time I see that ...
Anyone else?

Flip Flop · 17-08-2013 6:03pm

GerardMambu wrote: »

At around 5:25pm, I noticed that BBC2 and BBC2HD don't show the same program , how weird is that , first time I see that ...
Anyone else?

At present BBC 2 HD is the English version of the channel which sometimes shows different programmes or programmes at different times then the NI version of BBC 2. This afternoon for instance BBC 2 HD stayed with the English version of Final Score while BBC 2 NI switched to the Northern Ireland version. A NI version of BBC 2 HD is expected to launch next year, which I assume we will then get. This is why BBC 2 HD is currently on channel 140 and not 109.

Mimikyu · 17-08-2013 6:38pm

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GerardMambu · 17-08-2013 7:22pm

Flip Flop wrote: »

At present BBC 2 HD is the English version of the channel which sometimes shows different programmes or programmes at different times then the NI version of BBC 2. This afternoon for instance BBC 2 HD stayed with the English version of Final Score while BBC 2 NI switched to the Northern Ireland version. A NI version of BBC 2 HD is expected to launch next year, which I assume we will then get. This is why BBC 2 HD is currently on channel 140 and not 109.

Thanks Flip Flop for your explanation , now that makes sense ...

Flip Flop · 17-08-2013 8:10pm

GerardMambu wrote: »

Thanks Flip Flop for your explanation , now that makes sense ...

Your welcome.

coldfire1x · 17-08-2013 10:52pm

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Tried the wired speed test, its still only showing around 30mb which is my old speed. No where near to be supposed 100mb

0ph0rce0 · 17-08-2013 10:55pm

coldfire1x wrote: »

Tried the wired speed test, its still only showing around 30mb which is my old speed. No where near to be supposed 100mb

Pull out the plug for a few seconds and plug it back in, usually works when i get shíte speeds

coldfire1x · 17-08-2013 10:56pm

Apart from the broadband speed issue I am quite impressed with the box. Definitely lot better than the old box. A little niggle here and there but so far so good. It will take a while to get used to the navigation etc. Tried boxsets, youtube and dailymotion videos, all works fine.

PeteK* · 17-08-2013 10:58pm

coldfire1x wrote: »

No where near to be supposed 100mb

Mine is supposed to be 150MB

When I use speedtest.net now on Wifi..

18MB! I didn't expect that.. but it doesn't feel slow.. at the moment!

A few nights ago it was at 3MB when I checked.

23MB on UPC's speed test.

That's two laptops, two iPhones and one Smart TV.. nothing downloading anywhere.

Mimikyu · 17-08-2013 11:08pm

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coldfire1x · 17-08-2013 11:24pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Pull out the plug for a few seconds and plug it back in, usually works when i get shíte speeds

Already tried that, didnt help. Pulled out the power cable and also UPC cable from the box, restarted after about 5 min but no improvement.

coldfire1x · 17-08-2013 11:30pm

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Totally agree, its still no where near the Sky box experience but to me it's improvement from the old UPC box. Although UPC are spot on on one of the promises on their tv ads... removes clutter

I took out splitters, old router cables etc. Looks lot cleaner at the back of telly

The HD channels look nice but not impressed with their numbering. They seem to all over the place.

Mimikyu · 18-08-2013 11:20am

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coldfire1x · 18-08-2013 11:57am

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Yes I noticed something weird about the pause and play, it happened to me as well. I thought I was doing something wrong, will give it a try again.

Guess what I gave UPC a call about 15 min back. Dont know what she did but when I tested connected through wire it's showing me download speed to 154mb even though I am only on 100mb. :P Tested quite a few times and its still the same

On wifi I was only getting around 30mb so she asked me to change the wifi channel to 6. After that I am getting over 90mb. I guess wireless will always be a bit slower than the wired.

Flip Flop · 18-08-2013 12:17pm

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That was happening with my Horizon box as well. I switched the box off and switched it back on again and that seemed to fix it.

Zascar · 18-08-2013 2:32pm

Hey guys, I have some basic questions here - I hope you can shed some light on for me

1. I'm currently on the 50mb tv & phone deal for €75 or so. Do I get to upgrade to 100mb for the same price basically?
2.Will they send me a box for free (or have others paid the €45 fee?) Do they have to take back my current tv box and wireless modem? Can I get it sent to work?
3.What is the EPG like? Is it fast? I never use the current TV Guide as its just way to slow. Is there any lag? I had a quick look online and its seems very flashy - over animated etc, but does it work well?
4. I have a WDTV for playing movie files on my pc via the shared folders on the network - will this do the same thing? Do I have to do anything special to set it up? What is twonky and how does that work? Is the box Wireless N?
5. Is the series record good? I found the current one sometimes gets confused or gets it wrong.
6. Can you watch tv no a laptp in another room over wifi like Sky go - how does that work?
7. Can you log on online or on your phone to access the menu and get your box to record stuff?

Any help appreciated - thanks

coldfire1x · 18-08-2013 3:28pm

1. I'm currently on the 50mb tv & phone deal for €75 or so. Do I get to upgrade to 100mb for the same price basically?
Yes you can. I got it for €73 for 100mb one. €80 for the 150mb package.

2.Will they send me a box for free (or have others paid the €45 fee?) Do they have to take back my current tv box and wireless modem? Can I get it sent to work?
They charge €45 for the box and activation but if you are out of contract give loyalty dept a call and haggle. They will waive the 45 fee. Yes you have to give back the current tv box. Yes you can send it to work. Basically its delivered by DPD, they can deliver anywhere and your chosen day.

3.What is the EPG like? Is it fast? I never use the current TV Guide as its just way to slow. Is there any lag? I had a quick look online and its seems very flashy - over animated etc, but does it work well?
Bit of lag is still there but to me its lot better than the old box. Still not comparable to sky in term of speed but its getting better.

4. I have a WDTV for playing movie files on my pc via the shared folders on the network - will this do the same thing? Do I have to do anything special to set it up? What is twonky and how does that work? Is the box Wireless N?
I also use WDTV. Your current setup will work fine. Connect your pc and WDTV to wifi and it will be the same. Yet to try out twonky, not sure about it. I think its wireless N but not 100% sure.

5. Is the series record good? I found the current one sometimes gets confused or gets it wrong.
Yet to try out series record, only got it yesterday. You can record upto 4 programs at a time.

6. Can you watch tv no a laptp in another room over wifi like Sky go - how does that work?
You can watch tv on laptop even without the new horizon box. Use this link https://www.horizon.tv/en_ie/
Logon with your upc username / password and watch. The catch is - you need to be connected to UPC broadband. Unlike sky it doenst work on say mobile network.

7. Can you log on online or on your phone to access the menu and get your box to record stuff?
Again, you can do this on your old box as well. https://tv-guide.upc.ie/TV/
Lick on any program to schedule recording but you cant schedule a series link recording.

An Tarbh · 18-08-2013 4:55pm

I'm only getting between 2 & 5mbps on my wireless on my laptop, but have got 60mbps when it's connected to the ethernet cable. Previously I had been getting over 50mbps on wifi with the old modem.

No real issues with my iphone or ipad, have got over 30mbps on both so not sure why my laptop is so slow. Have messed about with all the settings by logging into 192.168.192.1 but it makes no difference.

ciaran75 · 19-08-2013 10:32am

dalkiadave wrote: »

If your nas drive is accessed by your laptop you can use twonky to add to the folders available to horizion box and stream via the laptop

Thanks, yes i can see all the files from the NAS in windows.

Is the horizon box not a media server in its own right? the code is based on version 9.11 of xbmc (or was).
Don't really want to install Twonky on my PC but by the sounds of it their is no other way.

can you install twonky on tablets also? would the UPC licence work on both?

Cheers,

dalkiadave · 19-08-2013 10:39am

ciaran75 wrote: »

Thanks, yes i can see all the files from the NAS in windows.

Is the horizon box not a media server in its own right? the code is based on version 9.11 of xbmc (or was).
Don't really want to install Twonky on my PC but by the sounds of it their is no other way.

can you install twonky on tablets also? would the UPC licence work on both?

Cheers,

I have twonkey mobile on a galaxy tab 2 doesnt need a license, some people have had luck getting their nas drive read by horizion box but I was never able to, when i got the box to see it, it locked up so have been using via laptop. Not an issue just means laptop has to be on

DrDrago · 19-08-2013 1:26pm

Hey guys, does anyone know if there is anywhere in Cork City that demos the Horizon tv box?

My girlfriend's dad is using Sky and would like to try out Horizon before making any purchase.

Thanks

The_Valeyard · 19-08-2013 1:48pm

ciaran75 wrote: »

Thanks, yes i can see all the files from the NAS in windows.

Is the horizon box not a media server in its own right? the code is based on version 9.11 of xbmc (or was).
Don't really want to install Twonky on my PC but by the sounds of it their is no other way.

can you install twonky on tablets also? would the UPC licence work on both?

Cheers,

Nas is hit and miss.

If you dont like Twonky, DivX works well too.

who_me · 19-08-2013 2:19pm

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On the speeds, yeah. That's something I noticed the first day I switched from DSL to cable (UPC) - speeds are all over the place. Screaming fast one minute, slows to a crawl the next. My old ISP (Smart Telecom) was far, far better in that regard.

On the Live pause - that's something I used to see a lot on the old UPC box. I haven't noticed it yet on the Horizon. Weird that a bug like that would carry through. For me, it seemed to happen more often if something is left paused for a while - could it be a capacity (either hard disk, or software limit) thing?

qvsr46ofgc792k · 19-08-2013 2:26pm

An Tarbh wrote: »

I'm only getting between 2 & 5mbps on my wireless on my laptop, but have got 60mbps when it's connected to the ethernet cable. Previously I had been getting over 50mbps on wifi with the old modem.

No real issues with my iphone or ipad, have got over 30mbps on both so not sure why my laptop is so slow. Have messed about with all the settings by logging into 192.168.192.1 but it makes no difference.

But how good is the wireless network card on your computer?

For example mine is only capable of 30mbps download regardless of the plan I am on.

qvsr46ofgc792k · 19-08-2013 2:26pm

DrDrago wrote: »

Hey guys, does anyone know if there is anywhere in Cork City that demos the Horizon tv box?

My girlfriend's dad is using Sky and would like to try out Horizon before making any purchase.

Thanks

Is there a Harvey Normans near?

DrDrago · 19-08-2013 2:28pm

Lola Scrawny College wrote: »

Is there a Harvey Normans near?

There is! I'll phone them to see if they have it, thanks.

qvsr46ofgc792k · 19-08-2013 2:29pm

I'm watching a live stream on my computer. How do I connect that stream to my Horizon Box?

Surely once there is a connection between the devices this is possible?

Any 'techy' guys out there that can shed some light?

who_me · 19-08-2013 2:32pm

Nope, no such feature on the Horizon.

With a Mac & an AppleTV you can share your screen, with the Chrome browser and the Chromecast dongle you can do likewise. It'd be a great feature to include..

qvsr46ofgc792k · 19-08-2013 2:37pm

who_me wrote: »

Nope, no such feature on the Horizon.

With a Mac & an AppleTV you can share your screen, with the Chrome browser and the Chromecast dongle you can do likewise. It'd be a great feature to include..

Is there a block on the Horizon box of some sort?

paulboland · 19-08-2013 2:49pm

who_me wrote: »

Nope, no such feature on the Horizon.

With a Mac & an AppleTV you can share your screen, with the Chrome browser and the Chromecast dongle you can do likewise. It'd be a great feature to include..

You can stream to the Horizon Box
using
Using any of software below
Add videos or music or photos to Library of software below using folders is best

Windows Media Player enable streaming and allow all devices
Twonky
Serviio
Plex
Play On

any DNLA server software should work some are good some are better
For Horizon
Windows Media Player
Twonky

Make sure you have vlc player software installed on your PC

Important Horizon Network don't use the option to scan for media

Twonky download latest version from twonky website its called twonky server
If you have my upc set up on upc website you will see twonky listed and your licence code there if not call 1908 for your licence code

qvsr46ofgc792k · 19-08-2013 2:57pm

paulboland wrote: »

You can stream to the Horizon Box
using
Using any of software below
Add videos or music or photos to Library of software below using folders is best

Windows Media Player enable streaming and allow all devices
Twonky
Serviio
Plex
Play On

any DNLA server software should work some are good some are better
For Horizon
Windows Media Player
Twonky

Make sure you have vlc player software installed on your PC

Important Horizon Network don't use the option to scan for media

Twonky download latest version from twonky website its called twonky server
If you have my upc set up on upc website you will see twonky listed and your licence code there if not call 1908 for your licence code

I have twonky installed and it works fine. But the way I am using it is by putting media files into a folder on my computer and searching for that folder on Horizon.

I am talking about live stream on a website that I watch on my computer and mirror it over to the horizon box. Do you get me. Or are you telling me twonky can do this way too?

paulboland · 19-08-2013 3:04pm

Lola Scrawny College wrote: »

I have twonky installed and it works fine. But the way I am using it is by putting media files into a folder on my computer and searching for that folder on Horizon.

I am talking about live stream on a website that I watch on my computer and mirror it over to the horizon box. Do you get me. Or are you telling me twonky can do this way too?

No that wont be possible to mirror a website to a Horizon Box

What it can do is the opposite using UPC Horizon Remote iPhone app
it can mirror what channel your watching onto your iPhone

Pumpkinseeds · 19-08-2013 3:09pm

Sorry if this has been asked before, but can you get the movie channels without the sports channels? We have the basic upc package with phone and broadband and have the rest from Sky. We've decided to cancel Sky as we've had problems with them and the last person my Husband dealt with on the phone was an absolute cnut. We'd like to get the Horizon package but we don't have any interest in sports.

your desired user name · 19-08-2013 3:22pm

Sorry if this has already been asked.. Is there a way of showing what wireless devices are connected? Had a look in http://192.168.192.1/ but not jumping out at me.

who_me · 19-08-2013 3:29pm

Lola Scrawny College wrote: »

Is there a block on the Horizon box of some sort?

No, it's just Horizon is using an existing, well supported standard called DLNA for sharing media; but it's file-based. You browse folders and select which file you want to stream. I'm not aware of any ability to share live content.

It's likely possible a DLNA server could be written to do it, by creating a dummy file for each live stream being viewed, and if anyone requests that file, the server sends the live stream to them instead.

who_me · 19-08-2013 3:34pm

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked before, but can you get the movie channels without the sports channels? We have the basic upc package with phone and broadband and have the rest from Sky. We've decided to cancel Sky as we've had problems with them and the last person my Husband dealt with on the phone was an absolute cnut. We'd like to get the Horizon package but we don't have any interest in sports.

Should do - it's 32 euros See here.

coldfire1x · 19-08-2013 5:58pm

I used to schedule my recording from UPC tv guide https://tv-guide.upc.ie/TV/

It was working fine before the horizon box. When I am trying now it's saying you need a Digital+ subscription???

Is the remote recording on the box not supported?

Can someone please try the link to see if they can schedule a recording?

nakano3153 · 19-08-2013 7:03pm

your desired user name wrote: »

Sorry if this has already been asked.. Is there a way of showing what wireless devices are connected? Had a look in http://192.168.192.1/ but not jumping out at me.

go to Basic/DHCP client devices

This will show a list of devices. This being Horizon, it will show connected devices as disconnected or incorrectly identified as Ethernet when they are over wi-fi. Welcome to the world of Horizon.

Meesared · 19-08-2013 9:06pm

coldfire1x wrote: »

I used to schedule my recording from UPC tv guide https://tv-guide.upc.ie/TV/

It was working fine before the horizon box. When I am trying now it's saying you need a Digital+ subscription???

Is the remote recording on the box not supported?

Can someone please try the link to see if they can schedule a recording?

You use www.horizon.tv now instead

coldfire1x · 19-08-2013 11:00pm

Meesared wrote: »

You use www.horizon.tv now instead

I was using the horizon.tv for watching live channels but wasn't looking carefully enough to realize that the recording is there in the guide

Thanks Meesared

Mimikyu · 20-08-2013 12:28am

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quarryman · 20-08-2013 10:51am

Not sure if some or all these questions have been asked before but:

I have the standard UPC box connected to one TV. I have another HDTV that just has Saorview and a PC hooked up to it.

1. Can I get the Horizon box without multi-room and somehow watch HD channels on my TV that is connected to the PC?

2. The Sky Sports option seems to be €34 extra a month but it's not clear if this is HD. Is it extra cost again for Sky Sports HD?

Mimikyu · 20-08-2013 11:00am

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PeteK* · 20-08-2013 12:40pm

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I have the app on my W7 laptop... but the screen is broken.. oopsy.

When I click to install that Widevine Media Optimizer thing, it doesn't do anything on any browser with W8.

I've tried everything. I think.

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Go to your settings and add favourites. Use HD where necessary!

Add them in the order you want them to appear.. I did.. and it's perfect!

Favourite channels appear before all other channels.. then when it gets to the end of your favourites, it shows all channels in the correct order.

So now, my channels are in order like this ..

RTÉ ONE
RTÉ ONE +1
RTÉ TWO HD
3
3e
TG4HD
BBC ONE HD
BBC TWO HD
BBC THREE
BBC FOUR
SKY 1 HD
SKY 2
UTV
ITV 2
ITV 3
ITV 4
Channel 4
E4
E4+1
More4
More4+1
TLC
GOLD
GOLD+1
Comedy Central
Comedy Central +1
Comedy Central EXTRA
Sky Living HD
Discovery HD
Discovery +1
History HD
National Geographic Channel HD
National Geo Wold HD
Crime Investigation
Discovery Science
Discovery History
Sky News HD
I.D. Investigation Discovery
Food Network UK
Home
Home & Health
E!
Film 4
Film 4+1 (I wish I put these after More4+1.. but I can't be arsed doing it again)
MGM HD

Then from here the channels are all starting again in normal order.
I don't have movies or sports.. maybe the movies in winter.
I fairly rambled on at the beginning of this post.. but you get the idea I hope!

0ph0rce0 · 20-08-2013 12:44pm

quarryman wrote: »

Not sure if some or all these questions have been asked before but:

I have the standard UPC box connected to one TV. I have another HDTV that just has Saorview and a PC hooked up to it.

1. Can I get the Horizon box without multi-room and somehow watch HD channels on my TV that is connected to the PC?

2. The Sky Sports option seems to be €34 extra a month but it's not clear if this is HD. Is it extra cost again for Sky Sports HD?

€10 extra for Sky Sports HD - And it's Only SS1 & SS2

your desired user name · 20-08-2013 12:55pm

Anyone know is there something similar to My TV Planner on the Horizon box..Can i check to see what is set up to be recorded?

Mimikyu · 20-08-2013 1:09pm

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xebec · 20-08-2013 1:24pm

your desired user name wrote: »

Anyone know is there something similar to My TV Planner on the Horizon box..Can i check to see what is set up to be recorded?

Yep, select Recordings on the remote and move one option to the right to get to Planned Recordings.

UPC Horizon Launched

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