Due August 2014

Kaylami · 24-10-2014 5:39pm

Shortstuff enjoy the wedding!

That sounds tough with Maeve alright I've no suggestions at all I'm afraid!

Evie won't take her bottle unless it's the same temperature as breast milk so I haven't been giving her the boob but expressing and adding the fortified powder. She took 6oz in one feed and was still looking for more! I think I might have to start supplementing with formula also.

emer_b · 24-10-2014 5:39pm

Wow I can't imagine having a baby that falls asleep by itself, jealous. My first was the same as Heather, had to feed her to sleep for first 6months. But she always got consistently better at sleeping longer stretches. I could cope with the feeding if I only had to do it once or twice a night!

llambert · 24-10-2014 5:58pm

Static think the cot will go great. I'd really recommend those sleep bags. Mine are devils for kicking off the blankets so I find them brilliant.

Sounds like Evie is back on track Kaylami great stuff!!

Probably harder this time emer cos you have another child to deal with too. My phn recommends putting them in awake. First few nights oh God it was torture they nearly broke me. Just had to keep picking them up, comforting them, bk in & repeat more times than you can count. Try get a nap in that day if you're going to try it, you'll need it. Might not work for all babies. Maybe try the swing will be well worth it if it works. You'd try anything!!

emer_b · 24-10-2014 10:44pm

Thanks llambert. Do the boys fall asleep on their own now? I did that with my first but not until she was 6months as I read it was too stimulating for them any younger than that. Too much picking up and putting down. It obviously worked for you though!

llambert · 24-10-2014 11:15pm

Yeah it worked. My 2 were bad from 10-2am. They would only sleep if they were been cuddled. Then it was from 6-10pm. I started giving them the last bottle at 10 upstairs in their room. They started sleeping through the night from about 8 weeks.

For the last 4 weeks I've been bringing the time back bit by bit. Now I bath them just after 7. I still give the last bottle upstairs. They go into the cots about 7.45. Cian normally drops off pretty quick but Adam can take about 30 minutes to go. Usually I don't need to go near him but the odd night I have to go back in to give him a little cuddle, he's still awake though going in just calmer. I don't have any music or anything like that but maybe they might help Heather. I don't hear them again until 6.30-7am.

I know they're all different. I had to stick to some sort of plan when I've 2 or I'd never get any sleep. I'm no expert or am I telling you what to do but maybe you should give it a try. "They" say after 3 days maximum the habit should be broken. Your not getting much sleep so maybe worth a try. The first night for me was the worst. Second night was quicker to settle them and we haven't looked back since.

I don't get a nap anymore during the day cos they rarely sleep at the same time but once I get a decent sleep at night I can cope.

Do you manage any naps? Probably not with your other little one.

emer_b · 24-10-2014 11:31pm

Thanks llambert. I Think I'll give it a go. Like I said I've done it before so I kinda know what to expect, even though it was with an older baby before.
I don't get any nap at the moment as she's not sleeping long enough during the day to let me! I need that brief time to eat/wash/cook, just the bare basics! The toddler is with a childminder most days though. However she won't be there again until Wednesday so might have to wait til then to give it a go. I know you really need to be commited to it or there's no point.
Thanks for the feedback. I know I have to do something drastic to improve things, just couldn't figure out what to do. Fingers crossed for a good night tonight x

Cameoette · 25-10-2014 5:30am

Hi ladies long time no post! Kaylami I'm so glad you and Evie are recovering ok after everything that happened to you xx Lucuma thank you for posting so openly about PND. It's great that you are starting to feel better. I didn't get PND but definitely had some very dark times after the birth, a lot to do with the labour itself. I was also getting panic attacks almost every evening, I had lost a lot of blood after the delivery and was severely anaemic which contributed to this (didn't realise panic attacks and anaemia were linked before now).
Emer b I took my baby to cranio sacral therapy a few weeks ago, she was having feeding issues and projectile vomiting after feeds almost everyday, I mean everywhere not just your standard bloop! She is bf and fed way too fast, each feed she would 'empty' the boob in less than 5 mins. I had no idea how cranio even worked but we haven't looked back since. I think it works for lots of issues.
llambert really interesting to read how you got your boys into a routine, sounds like you cracked sleeping which must be so crucial with twins! I'm trying to figure out how to settle my girl a bit earlier, at the moment she goes to bed when I go, about 9 or 10 but she is so cranky for the hour before I think she could do with being put down earlier. So going to try that now this week and see what happens.
Baby is 7 weeks now, time is flying in. I am really enjoying her now and just relieved to have the first few awful weeks behind me!! She takes expressed milk from her dad now thank god, it's been really good to be able to get out by myself for a few hours.

llambert · 25-10-2014 5:26pm

Hope it works out for you emer-b, let us know how you get on.

Cameoette I only started putting mine down earlier when they started sleeping later in the morning. They were around 9 weeks. I don't escape the cranky hour. From about 5.30 till their bath they are like 2 demons. I gave up trying to have dinner at this time!!

staticdoor71 · 25-10-2014 6:02pm

llambert wrote: »

Hope it works out for you emer-b, let us know how you get on.

Cameoette I only started putting mine down earlier when they started sleeping later in the morning. They were around 9 weeks. I don't escape the cranky hour. From about 5.30 till their bath they are like 2 demons. I gave up trying to have dinner at this time!!

That's crazy!!! Noah goes RADIO RENTAL from 9 till 11. EVERY night
you could literally set ur clock by him

Mum Is off out tonight...

I say out...

I mean to my sister's with a few mates to drink tea eat pizza watch xfactor and carve pumpkins...

Its out enough for me and I cannot wait ðŸ˜Š

llambert · 25-10-2014 6:48pm

Woohoo Static don't go too mad :-)

Would you not go wild and have as my Dad asks me when I'm not drinking and "have a mineral"!!!!!

Kaylami · 26-10-2014 12:34pm

Hi ladies

I'm having a really tough time at the minute. I'm only managing to express 5oz a day and Evie will only take it if it's warm so once I heated it I can't reheat I've been only heating a oz at a time.

I can't go for a walk because of pain in my knee and the anti anxiety tablets are really making me.,exhausted.

Ok I feel better now rant over!

emer_b · 26-10-2014 3:23pm

Kaylami wrote: »

Hi ladies

I'm having a really tough time at the minute. I'm only managing to express 5oz a day and Evie will only take it if it's warm so once I heated it I can't reheat I've been only heating a oz at a time.

I can't go for a walk because of pain in my knee and the anti anxiety tablets are really making me.,exhausted.

Ok I feel better now rant over!

That's tough going kaylami. I wouldn't be able to express more than 5oz either. And that would only be if I missed a feed and got quite "full". It's frustrating seeing how little comes out. Don't feel bad if you need to use a little more formula than you had planned, especially with all you've been through.

I gave Heather a 3oz bottle a few nights ago and she wouldn't take it from either of us. I ended up warming it twice over the evening (I know you're not meant to), but every drop is so precious. Broke my heart to throw it down the sink in the end.

shortstuff! · 26-10-2014 8:06pm

I only ever expressed 2ounces in the morning. Doesn't take long maybe 5-10mins but imagine any more would take ages. I fed Shay from 4- 4.45pm before we left for the wedding reception, he drank 6.5ounces in a feed at 7.30ish, got home at 10.10pm & he was screaming with hunger having finishing off the last 1.5ounces. Felt so bad for him as he's not a cryer at all. I had another 2ounces in the fridge but partner didn't see it it pack so the grandparents were trying to defrost a frozen bottle (which then had to be dumped). Though I had said there was a bottle in the fridge. Kinda scared if leaving him for any longer than 5hours now, thought he would have had loads in 8ounces since was only missing 1feed (boobs were about to explode though). Swear he fed for the guts of 2hours when I got home but I'm sure he was just comfort sucking.

Lucuma · 28-10-2014 4:07pm

Static does Noah have colic?

Llambert well done on getting your boys into such a great routine- superMam!!

Cameotte it's easy to be honest in an anonymous forum ;-) I hope it helps others even ppl just browsing through. I'm 5 weeks on Prozac now and going from strength to strength. I think I might even be able to stop taking the olanzapine I take to help me sleep soon (I had to give up breastfeeding so I could take it). I tried a night without it last night and despite her highness having a noisy night I still slept between her feeds & feel grand today! If I do stop taking it I wonder if I could reactivate the breastfeeding?! Prob not wise as I'm going back to work in a few weeks!! :-)

Emerb I think you will have to bite the bullet and start teaching bubs to sleep without always needing the boob. I use the White noise baby app alot, it's great!

emer_b · 30-10-2014 2:10pm

We have turned a corner! Last weekend I started feeding Heather when she woke from a nap, then putting her down as soon as she got sleepy in either the buggy or cot and rocking her to sleep. Ok I've replaced the boob with rocking but I can live with that for now...and someone else can do it!
She's now going to sleep at 8.30 (instead of 11pm), one feed around 4am and back to sleep until 9am. I'm like a new woman! I just got stuck in a rut of feeding to sleep and couldn't see any other way. My husband tackled it with me at the weekend and now everyone is happier!
Thanks for the advice/support

Lucuma · 30-10-2014 8:23pm

emer_b wrote: »

She's now going to sleep at 8.30 (instead of 11pm), one feed around 4am and back to sleep until 9am. I'm like a new woman!

I'd say you are, that's fantastic :-)

shortstuff! · 31-10-2014 5:43am

That's great news emer_b!! Am I the only one still doing 3hourly feeds then? Tiredness is starting to catch up with me a little I must admit.

Cameoette · 31-10-2014 11:49am

Amazing Emer b! Delighted for ya! My girl now does bed at 9ish, one feed at 3am then down until 6.30am. She's 8 weeks today. We were putting her to bed earlier but then she was waking up earlier after 4 hours and was then up every 1.5 to 2 hours from then on!

Lucuma · 01-11-2014 10:30am

I don't know how often I'm doing feeds shortstuff. It used to be every 3 hours during the day anyway. But she is 2 months old tomorrow and she seems to be naturally reducing the number of feeds. Every day for the last week she has skipped at least one of her bottles (they were at 07:30, 10:30, 13:30, 16:30, 19:30 etc) on some days she has skipped 2 of them. She's also drinking more of the bottles that she does drink, leaving less behind.
But at night time I haven't been doing 3 hourly feeds in weeks. She goes down between 21:00 and 22:00 and wakes up for a feed at 05:00 then wakes up in the morning at 07:30. She's a good napper during the day as well, particularly if I take her out in the pram or in the sling, she sleeps for hours! I'm a lucky Mammy. I'm just so glad those first few hellish weeks are behind me! Now every week it gets a little better. One week smiles, next week cooing, now this week she's actually having (goo goo gaga) conversations with me when I'm dressing her/changing her nappy, it's so great! And she's starting to touch things and suck her fists. I can't wait now for the 3 month mark as according to the book that's the next big turning point.

Kaylami · 01-11-2014 9:55pm

Hi ladies

So today was my toddlers 2nd birthday my god time flies.
Were all doing good settling down and Evie is loving her bottles goin to gradually reduce the bf and then introduce formula I can't wait! Little woman sleep from 11 to 8 most nights or 10 - 7.

I really am blessed with her!

We've the football dinner dance at the end of the month and I cannot wait to get incredibly drunk and be carried home. Luckily the hotel is just across the road from our house.

Hope all you are keeping well :-)

Cameoette · 01-11-2014 10:41pm

That's some sleeping Evie is doing Kaylami, fab. Dinner dance sounds like it will be good craic and much deserved! I went out to my local last night, just had a couple of drinks and oh my god, dying. But it was brilliant to get for the few hours with my OH. Friends minded the little lady who stayed asleep the whole time, couldn't believe our luck.

llambert · 03-11-2014 7:52pm

Hey girls. Hope you're all keeping well.

Emer-b hope things are still going good & Lucuma sounds like things are starting to come together.

Boys are doing mighty. Still sleeping good. Bath at 7, then bottles & see them around 7 next morning. Adam can be difficult some nights & can take an hour to settle but still gone by half 8 so can't really complain.

Had the boys christened yesterday. Lovely day but a little delicate today. Staying down home for the week though which is nice.

Adam can turn over already though poor Cian just eats the blanket on tummy time and will be a long time before he turns.

I swear if I only had Cian I won't know I had him. He loves his daytime naps too. Adam does not & likes to keep me company and do a fair amount of giving out :-)

shortstuff! · 05-11-2014 1:43am

We christened Shay at the weekend too, glad it went well for you & the boys Lambert! We just had people back to the house which was nice, baby loved being held by everyone but doesn't want to be put down at all now, never really did though!

Had our 2month jabs, oh they aren't nice at all, had the boobs out ready to comfort & by god they were needed, poor little man. Very unsettled this evening & took forever to get him to sleep... Didn't help that my partner came home from work with stomach bug/flu so straight to bed at 5:30, fingers crossed the rest of us don't get it:(

Kaylami · 09-11-2014 5:32am

Hi ladies hope your all keeping well.

Evie has the most awful cough and I can't sleep worrying about her. We've no car to take her to the emergency doctor as it's still being repaired.
I'm giving her calpol but I don't know. Everytime she starts coughing she's getting sick and I don't want her to be dehydrated so I'm waking her to feed.

shortstuff! · 09-11-2014 10:04am

Sorry to hear Evie isn't well, it must be a bad cough to be making her sick poor thing. How is she this morning, your doing your best giving calpol & keeping her hydrated, hard seeing them sick:(

staticdoor71 · 13-11-2014 1:13am

Hey ladies. Dunno where the times gone

Noah was with the phn today. He was 10 weeks on Friday so don't really know what check up this was..but however.
Thank god the nice phn is back. Was in with her about 45 min.

She's delighted with his progress.
He's weight is however off the chart...literally..There was no where on that percentile chart thing they use for his weight. He's now 8700kg (5340 at birth) or in real weight...19lbs4oz. And 64cm in length.

But like I said to her. I've been doing everything the hospital said with regard to feeding and amounts. And he's still this big. What more can I do!!

He's being christened on sunday. My dad's doing the service so that's nice

Then on monday we are back in the hospital for his follow up appt from when he was admitted. I'm interested as to what they are going to say about hos weight.

But he's in great form. So active and lively. Trying to sit him self forward...arms and legs ago go and talks jibberish for Ireland.. such a happy baby now.

We are getting about 11.45pm till 8 am out of him most nights. Can't really complain.

We are having a night away just the 2 of us next weekend for the Ireland vs Australia rugby match in dub CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope everyone's keeping well xxx

Lucuma · 13-11-2014 2:08pm

staticdoor71 wrote: »

He's being christened on sunday. My dad's doing the service so that's nice

We are having a night away just the 2 of us next weekend for the Ireland vs Australia rugby match in dub CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope everyone's keeping well xxx

I take it that's a COI service then Static?

Something tells me one day you'll be watching Noah play rugby against Australia if he keeps growing at that rate!!

Kaylami · 13-11-2014 4:43pm

Oh my god static he's thriving for you!
Glad your getting a break now as you said you've followed the hospital instructions what more can you do!

I agree with Lucama he'll definitely make a great rugby player and I have 3 girls for him to choose from! Lol

That's gorgeous that your dad is doing the service for you makes it even more special for you!

llambert · 17-11-2014 9:20am

Hi girls, I haven't had a chance to post recently how is everyone??

Wow Static Noah really is flying. I know he's a big baby but he's very long too so I'm sure he'll even out. Like the rest of the girls said I'm sure we'll be cheering him on someday in the Irish rugby jersey. How was the christening? Lucky you heading to the match & a night away!!!!

Lucuma are you back to work yet, how are you finding it if you are??

All good with me. Boys are teething. Cian is grand but Adam can be cross with it. His new thing was to cause blue murder when I put him to bed. Or else lead me into a false sense of security and sleep for 30-40 minutes and then cause the blue murder. This was going on for about 2 weeks but last few nights have been good again so fingers crossed.

Started the boys swimming yesterday with water babies, they loved it!! I hate the water, I have a real fear of it and swore if I ever had kids I get them in the water young.

How's everyone's xmas shopping coming along? I still have to start :-(

Kaylami · 19-11-2014 10:43am

Llambert glad the boys are doing well! Evie is teething too so I feel your pain.

She's a holy terror at the minute between that and her cold. Had the phn yesterday and started crying my eyes out because I don't want to go back to work! I'm back in 2 weeks.

llambert · 19-11-2014 10:51am

At least the teething won't last forever but it's hardship while its happening.

How come you're going back, did you go out on maternity leave early?? That's the only good thing about going early I have the full 6 months with the babies. I'm taking another few weeks unpaid and going back March 9th.

Sure the thoughts will be worse than going back but that's no help to you at the minute.

Kaylami · 19-11-2014 11:26am

llambert wrote: »

At least the teething won't last forever but it's hardship while its happening.

How come you're going back, did you go out on maternity leave early?? That's the only good thing about going early I have the full 6 months with the babies. I'm taking another few weeks unpaid and going back March 9th.

Sure the thoughts will be worse than going back but that's no help to you at the minute.

Yeah I took it early because of all the complications and I couldn't face the 2 hours commute every day!

I'd love to take the unpaid leave but my husband doesn't work so we just couldn't afford to.

I think as well we've had a complete personnel change in the office since I left so I've never worked with these people and I'm hearing negative things from staff who have left doesn't help!

shortstuff! · 19-11-2014 3:14pm

Ah you poor thing Kaylami, the thoughts of going bank to work:( I'm sure you'll settle back in no time... At least that's what other mammy have told me! Not back til start of May, I can barely remember what I used to do as it is, I'll be no use to them at all when I go back!!

shortstuff! · 19-11-2014 5:29pm

OMG Shay just rolled over from his belly to his back... Twice! Proud Mammy;)

llambert · 19-11-2014 6:20pm

Try not to worry too much Kaylami. Most people who leave a job are rarely positive about it. At least you have the reassurance of leaving the girls with their Dad and not have to worry about child minding. Will you still have that long commute. I know what you mean about not been able to take the time off unpaid. We can barely afford it but have no option as creche can't take the boys till then.

That's brilliant with Shay's rolling over. I can't keep Adam on his tummy but poor Cian is a long way from turning, he's like a star fish :-)

emer_b · 19-11-2014 11:54pm

A little starfish, that's so cute and funny!
Kaylami, awful that you have to go back so soon. Only consolation is that Evie will be at home with her dad.
We're doing well here. Heather is the smileiest (is that a word?!) baby ever, loves to talk and has the biggest smile for everyone. I adore when she stops mid feed, and just looks up at me, beaming! The best thank you ever. She's sleeping 8/9/10 hr stretches until about 6am and then another snooze after that. I got out for dinner last wknd which was great, my first night out. We must persevere with the bottles though, not having much luck getting her to take an expressed bottle. Would be great to get out for a night again over Christmas.
She's chewing away on her hands but don't think its teething. I remember my first doing that but didn't get a tooth for 10 months.
Isn't it amazing how quickly that crazy newborn stage passes, and how far we've all come in the last 4 months!

shortstuff! · 20-11-2014 2:52pm

Wow 8 hour sleeps! The best we've managed is 4hours & I mean I was delirious with pride at that! Yesterday's rolling over trick also means we're hitting the 12 wk growth spurt, up every 2hours last night, thank god for co sleeping... Hopefully will only last a few days & then he'll surely sleep through like your baby!!

Kaylami · 20-11-2014 5:32pm

I'm not having a good day!

Evie is sick so not sleeping at night and I keep her so oh can get up with girls in the morning.

Well today he is sick and instead of waking me he decided he just wouldn't send the eldest to school and tried lo claim she was sick.

He's sitting here with a big man flu head on him refusing to take any medicine and just being a moany git. I've no sympathy because he wears a. T shirt all year round and really brings it on himself plus he's had man flu several times already this year. You would swear the world should stop turnin.

My mil is comin to babysit tomorrow which means I have a 2 hours drive to pick her up fine but who is goin to clean the house?!

Rant over I apologise but I feel ready to explode here!

llambert · 20-11-2014 7:17pm

You sound fairly stressed Kaylami :-(

Can your hubby not pick up his Mum? Then you can have a quick tidy. Anyway no-one would expect a tidy house with 3 young kids!!

Bad day here too. PHN was here. She's not happy because Adam doesn't fix and follow with his eyes. She gave me a fright cos the said we'd have to go to the eye casualty today. Hubby came home but we got no phone call. Rang the hospital at half 2 but the doctor told me that we'd have to wait till next week or following week with the peeds eye doctor and that she never told the nurse that we'd have to go in today.

Of course I'm worried apart from the fact that I had noticed something wasn't quite right myself. Doctor reassured me a little told and said it can take some babies up to 6 months to do it and I also had to consider that he's almost a month premature. Still though had a right cry.

Kaylami · 20-11-2014 8:16pm

He's too sick to drive apparently...

Ah llambert Honey that sucks but sometimes phn just err on the side of caution I'm sure the wee man will be fine!

The toddler had her 2year check today and she's., still not talkin so the nurse was asking all these stupid questions like do you talk to her. The mood I was in she was lucky she didn't get a sarcastic answer like no I've never spoke to her we communicate via a highly evolved sign language system. Or we only have discussions in klingon.

llambert · 20-11-2014 10:52pm

I hope so Kaylami but I had a feeling myself these last few weeks but hopefully it's nothing. I try not to compare the boys to each other. Cian interacts with me more but Adam is better on his tummy and turning over. If I was to compare them I'd be the whole time worrying that one was behind.

If the eye doctor finds nothing then the phn wants to send him to a peeds doc. This country is a disgrace. She was saying the waiting list is quite long. I said we had health insurance & seemingly it's not that long after all. It's scandalous with all the taxes we pay that we have to fork out a massive health premium to ensure our kids get speedy treatment.

Kaylami I know your hubby is sick but going to pick up his Mam will hardly kill him. Those phn can sometimes rub you up the wrong way alright. Won't be long till your daughter is chatting away and you'll be telling her to be quiet :-)

Kaylami · 21-11-2014 1:49am

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you but I'm sure he'll be ok!

Evie watches me like a hawk all day long and cries when she can't see me it's very cute but I'm worried when I'm not there!

I was just in the worst of form today. Mia just has her own little agenda and does things her own way

llambert · 26-11-2014 11:46pm

Hi girlies how's everyone?

Not happy, my hair is coming out thick and fast :-( I know its normal but had hoped to escape it.

staticdoor71 · 27-11-2014 2:54am

llambert wrote: »

Hi girlies how's everyone?

Not happy, my hair is coming out thick and fast :-( I know its normal but had hoped to escape it.

Omg so is mine!!!!! So bad I'm afraid to check have I bald spots.

I never got this 1st time round

llambert · 27-11-2014 9:06am

Same as that static & now we'll have all that awkward new hair growing at funny angles to look forward too!!

Blood pressure went sky high yest. A girl I know who had a baby 2 weeks after me rings me up yesterday. She was saying she hasn't lost any weight yet. I said not to worry, I haven't really thought about it and our babies are only small. She kindly turns around and said that I've no excuse to be carrying any weight. I have loads of time to diet and exercise cos I'm not breatfeeding my boys. What a b*t*h!!!!

Dolbert · 27-11-2014 12:01pm

'Ah sure the weight should be falling off you if you're breastfeeding, that is unless you're stuffing yourself all day!'

That should shut her up. Fight bitch with bitch

staticdoor71 · 27-11-2014 1:43pm

People are awful thick sometimes

Here ladies are any of you on Facebook

My friend was telling me her forum of Sept 2014 from roller coaster have set up a private Facebook page for sharing pics tips and woes...PRIVATELY

Anyone interested or happy enough to continue here?

llambert · 27-11-2014 7:17pm

I know Dolbert but I'd be too soft to say it.

I'd be happy to go with that Static though are little group seems to be getting smaller. Would love to see all our babas . Sure everyone is just very busy though.

Cameoette · 27-11-2014 10:05pm

Hey ladies! Hope you and your babies are all in good form. Things v busy with family at mo (not even the baby!) so don't get much chance to post.

Static Facebook idea sounds good to me, just have to set up a closed or secret group I think?

llambert can't believe somebody said that to you wtf! Unbelievable. When ppl say crazy crap like that to me I'm usually stunned into silence and then think of an awesome comeback hours later.

Eve is good (not sure I ever posted her name

) she's 12 weeks tomorrow, lots of babbling, cooing and yelling. She's a dote. Injections done and she took them pretty ok. Trying to reintroduce her dad giving her a bottle of expressed milk though, got out of habit and she refused them from him when I went out the other night! Changed from Avent to Mam bottles and having a little more success now.

staticdoor71 · 27-11-2014 10:22pm

Ok ladies. Pm me your Facebook names and ill get on it

Due August 2014

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