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  • Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Skin transformed into brain cells
    Skin cells have been converted directly into cells which develop into the main components of the brain, by researchers studying mice in California.

    The experiment, reported in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, skipped the middle "stem cell" stage in the process.

    The researchers said they were "thrilled" at the potential medical uses.

    Far more tests are needed before the technique could be used on human skin.

    Stem cells, which can become any other specialist type of cell from brain to bone, are thought to have huge promise in a range of treatments. Many trials are taking place, such as in stroke patients or specific forms of blindness.

    One of the big questions for the field is where to get the cells from. There are ethical concerns around embryonic stem cells and patients would need to take immunosuppressant drugs as any stem cell tissue would not match their own.

    An alternative method has been to take skin cells and reprogram them into "induced" stem cells. These could be made from a patient's own cells and then turned into the cell type required, however, the process results in cancer-causing genes being activated.

    Direct approach

    The research group, at the Stanford University School of Medicine in California, is looking at another option - converting a person's own skin cells into specialist cells, without creating "induced" stem cells. It has already transformed skin cells directly into neurons.

    This study created "neural precursor" cells, which can develop into three types of brain cell: neurons, astrocytes and oligodendrocytes.

    These precursor cells have the advantage that, once created, they can be grown in a laboratory into very large numbers. This could be critical if the cells were to be used in any therapy.

    Brain cells and skin cells contain the same genetic information, however, the genetic code is interpreted differently in each. This is controlled by "transcription factors".

    The scientists used a virus to infect skin cells with three transcription factors known to be at high levels in neural precursor cells.

    After three weeks about one in 10 of the cells became neural precursor cells.

    Lead researcher Prof Marius Wernig said: "We are thrilled about the prospects for potential medical use of these cells.

    "We've shown the cells can integrate into a mouse brain and produce a missing protein important for the conduction of electrical signal by the neurons.

    "More work needs to be done to generate similar cells from human skin cells and assess their safety and efficacy."

    Dr Deepak Srivastava, who has researched converting cells into heart muscle, said the study: "Opens the door to consider new ways to regenerate damaged neurons using cells surrounding the area of injury."

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    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Cloning scientists create human brain cells
    Scientists in Edinburgh who pioneered cloning have made a technological breakthrough that could pave the way for better medical treatment of mental illnesses and nerve diseases


    The news that Edinburgh scientists had created the world's first cloned mammal, Dolly the sheep, at the university's Roslin Institute made headlines around the world 16 years ago. Her birth raised hopes of the creation of a new generation of medicines – with a host of these breakthroughs occurring at laboratories in the university over the following decade.

    And now one of the most spectacular has taken place at Edinburgh's Centre for Regenerative Medicine, where scientists have continued to develop the technology used to make Dolly. In a series of remarkable experiments, they have created brain tissue from patients suffering from schizophrenia, bipolar depression and other mental illnesses.

    The work offers spectacular rewards for doctors. From a scrap of skin taken from a patient, they can make neurones genetically identical to those in that person's brain. These brain cells, grown in the laboratory, can then be studied to reveal the neurological secrets of their condition.

    "A patient's neurones can tell us a great deal about the psychological conditions that affect them, but you cannot stick a needle in someone's brain and take out its cells," said Professor Charles ffrench-Constant, the centre's director.

    "However, we have found a way round that. We can take a skin sample, make stem cells from it and then direct these stem cells to grow into brain cells. Essentially, we are turning a person's skin cells into brain. We are making cells that were previously inaccessible. And we could do that in future for the liver, the heart and other organs on which it is very difficult to carry out biopsies."

    The scientists are concentrating on a range of neurological conditions, including multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease and motor neurone disease. In addition, work is being carried out on schizophrenia and bipolar depression, two debilitating ailments that are triggered by malfunctions in brain activity. This latter project is directed by Professor Andrew McIntosh of the Royal Edinburgh Hospital, who is working in collaboration with the regenerative medicine centre.

    "We are making different types of brain cells out of skin samples from people with schizophrenia and bipolar depression," he said. "Once we have assembled these, we look at standard psychological medicines, such as lithium, to see how they affect these cells in the laboratory. After that, we can start to screen new medicines. Our lines of brain cells would become testing platforms for new drugs. We should be able to start that work in a couple of years."

    In the past, scientists have studied brain tissue from people with conditions such as schizophrenia, but could only do so once an autopsy had been carried out. "It is very difficult to get primary tissue to study until after a patient has died," added McIntosh.

    "Even then, that tissue is affected by whatever killed them and by the impact of the medication they had been taking for their condition, possibly for several decades. So having access to living brain cells is a significant development for the development of drugs for these conditions."

    In addition, ffrench-Constant is planning experiments to create brain cells from patients suffering from multiple sclerosis, a disease that occurs when a person's immune system turns on his or her own nerve cells and starts destroying the myelin sheaths that protect the fibres that it uses to communicate with other nerve cells. The condition induces severe debilitation in many cases.

    "The problem with MS is that we cannot predict how patients will progress," said ffrench-Constant. "In some, it progresses rapidly. In others, the damage to the myelin is repaired and they can live quite happily for many years. If we can find out the roots of the difference, we may be able to help patients."

    The brain cells that make myelin and wrap it around the fibres of nerve cells are known as oligodendrocytes. "We will take skin samples from MS patients whose condition has progressed quickly and others in whom it is not changing very much.

    "Then we will make oligodendrocytes from those samples and see if there is an intrinsic difference between the two sets of patients. In other words, we will see if there is an underlying difference in people's myelin-making cells that explains, when they get MS, why some manage to repair damage to their brain cells and others do not."

    Once that mechanism is revealed, the route to developing a new generation of MS drugs could be opened up, he added. "It is only a hypothesis, but it is a very attractive one," said ffrench-Constant. "Crucially, stem cells will be the means of proving it."

    The technology involved in this work is a direct offshoot from the science involved in making Dolly the sheep. Dolly showed that adult cells in animals were more flexible than previously thought. This paved the way for research that allows scientists to turn adult cells, such as those found in the skin, into stem cells that can then be converted into any other type of cell found in the human body.

    Four basic uses for stem cells have been found: to test the toxicity of drugs; to create tissue for transplanting, for example for Parkinson's disease; to try to boost levels of a patient's own population of stem cells in order to improve their defences against diseases; and to make models of diseases that will lead to the development of new drugs, as is being done with the Edinburgh research on brain cells.

    "That is why the stem cell revolution is so important," said ffrench-Constant. "It has so much to offer, not just in the area of creating material for transplants but in areas such as making models of diseases which should then allow you, hopefully, to develop all sorts of new treatments for a condition."

    Source.

    Pretty neat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


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    Ha Ha! Did you really think I'd be that nice!? Keep Looking :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Jesus f*ck buggery!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I shall sleep with the light on tonight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Jernal wrote: »
    Sarky wrote: »
    Jesus f*ck buggery!
    I shall sleep with the light on tonight.

    An interesting thing is although I now see what the main thing to see is. At first glance I saw a few very detailed (to me at least) things in the markings on the furniture, outside the window etc it could have been. Then after reading Sarky and MM's posts and deciding it must be something more shocking than what I could see, went back to look at it again and could see several other (real creepy this time) things it may have been. So is a good example of that Hyperactive Agency Detection thing that often comes up in the forum (Zombrex in particular is mad for going on about it). Also shows how strongly it can be effected by very slight influence, as well as being a nice example of people generally seeing stuff that isn't there if they really want to see it enough.

    I can't believe I have to be up for work in 3 and a half hours...


  • Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Wonder how many times they video'd the figure-of-eight before they got one without a crash


  • Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭sephir0th


    robindch wrote: »
    ^^^ Wonder how many times they video'd the figure-of-eight before they got one without a crash

    :) Did you ever see those basketball compilation vids where they get like 1000 crazy shots throught the hoop? Take #732.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    2012-02-02-Argument-from-Personal-Incredulity.png


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    I can imagine a swarm of those Quadrotor things chasing some Al-Quaeda guy around a house somewhere in the middle east, in the not too distant future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    recedite wrote: »
    I can imagine a swarm of those Quadrotor things chasing some Al-Quaeda guy around a house somewhere in the middle east, in the not too distant future.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,331 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    "Rock Beyond Belief concert"?

    Give me a break.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    I don't think I can accurately descibe how cool I find this.

    http://images.4channel.org/f/src/589217_scale_of_universe_enhanced.swf


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Seen that before, it's brilliant :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    fitz0 wrote: »
    I don't think I can accurately descibe how cool I find this.

    http://images.4channel.org/f/src/589217_scale_of_universe_enhanced.swf

    Mind = Blown!

    Talk about 'perspective'. :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Good rehash of an old favorite:



  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Not strictly A&A but

    "Russian scientists drill into Antarctic lake sealed off for 15 million years

    Sampling the waters of Lake Vostok could reveal clues about evolution and reveal unknown forms of life"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/06/russian-scientists-drill-antarctic-lake


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Liamario


    dmw07 wrote: »
    Not strictly A&A but

    "Russian scientists drill into Antarctic lake sealed off for 15 million years

    Sampling the waters of Lake Vostok could reveal clues about evolution and reveal unknown forms of life"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/06/russian-scientists-drill-antarctic-lake

    SWEET JEEBUS

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Shark_Versus_Giant_Octopus


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Liamario wrote: »

    Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought this. Fascinating documentary that.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Daily Mail turns on own readership:
    Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study
    • Children with low intelligence grow up to be prejudiced
    • Right-wing views make the less intelligent feel 'safe'
    • Analysis of more than 15,000 people
    link
    Charlie Brooker laughs:
    When the Daily Mail calls rightwingers stupid, the result is dumbogeddon
    On and on the comments went – a chimps' tea party of the damned

    link


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand




    Part 1 of 3.

    She certainly gathered a lot of medals for her Trophy Cabinet, on her trips all over the world. I always thought she was just stationed in some slum continuously, not Jet-setting all over the globe.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    dmw07 wrote: »
    "Russian scientists drill into Antarctic lake sealed off for 15 million years

    Not so fast there, Valery...:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16907998


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I'm actually a little bit excited about those drilling projects, those lakes are sure to provide fascinating data. <watching closely>


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Sarky wrote: »
    I'm actually a little bit excited about those drilling projects, those lakes are sure to provide fascinating data. <watching closely>
    Or nothing at all... :( Let's hope!

    There was a great documentary on Lake Vostok a few years back, I think on CBC and a quick google throws up this, which looks like it:

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-world-of-lake-vostok/


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Just so long as they dont drill to deep and unleash demons from hell! :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Just so long as they dont drill to deep and unleash demons from hell! :eek:
    You might laugh. Others don't:



    I know people who think this is true :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    robindch wrote: »
    Or nothing at all... :( Let's hope!
    [/url]
    Even if there's nothing living in there it's water that hasn't been touched in 14 million years, so the water itself will have a unique selection of trace elements dissolved in it, that'll keep the geologists and chemists happy.

    But I'm sure there'll be microbes at least. Little buggers grow everywhere given enough time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    robindch wrote: »

    A bit premature alright. Must have been afraid the americans would release a documentary showing grainy footage of them reaching the lake first ;-)


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