Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

Aganos Official Trailer and "Ghost Girl" tease.



"Japanese Ghost Girl" teased at the end!

"Ghost Girl"



Just leaving the "Ghost Girl" teaser here for convenience (so you don't have to go through the last trailer).

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Shakey Cam Footage of Hisako/Ghost Girl







Footage of the Hisako (Ghost Girl) in action. Once the full panel is uploaded I will update.

Note: She is still being worked on / not 100% finished just yet.

She's kinda fun looking. I always like counter characters, and it's neat how they really played into the Sadako/Ring design of slow walk to sudden teleport dash.
I hate how she has such big special properties on her auto-doubles and whatnot though. I hate when games give specific characters large exceptions to how they handle the game's core mechanics.

Max VA for story
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Here's Max's first draft at narrating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL4wNxTcYek&feature=youtu.be&t=9m51s

Iron Galaxy Hisako Gameplay Stream Tonight

IG will be showing off Hisako (now ready for release) gameplay later today. Like past streams IG have promised to show off extra content early if they manage to bring in enough viewers.

https://twitter.com/TheKeits/status/578319042492035072

They will begin the stream at 11:30am GMT (6:30pm CST)

Iron Galaxy Twitch Channel - twitch.tv/irongalaxy

Killer Instinct at Final Round is about to start.

http://www.twitch.tv/kombatnetwork

The "Saucey Suite" at Final Round

The "Saucey Suite" is basically a "Salty Suite" hosted by KI player Shin Tristan. A few money matches between some top KI players will be taking place so for anyone who is curious to see some higher level KI this is the stream to watch.

http://www.twitch.tv/st_ultimate

The stream is scheduled to take place at around 12am GMT (8pm EST).

Edit: Archive footage is here -> http://www.twitch.tv/st_ultimate/b/639925917

Hisako's Theme Sample / Character Release

https://instagram.com/p/0bstyAJqGS/

https://instagram.com/p/0btoX5JqHe/

Mick Gordon posted these samples of Hisako's theme.

https://twitter.com/Ishmae1/status/580435280139825152

Adam Isgreen also confirmed that she will be released this week, but her trailer may be delayed because they want to make Cinder (the teaser at the end) look awesome.

2gen wrote: »

Hisako Reveal Trailer; Cinder Tease

She will be released tomorrow.

CU Available date and time (UTC): 9:00AM UTC – 3/27/2015
CU Mandatory date and time (UTC): 4:00PM UTC – 3/27/2015

Cool to have times

Cinder was cool.

Ramza wrote: »

Cinder looks good, he is my favourite KI character so I'm hype for him. I always thought he was American (a convicted criminal from NYC?, I could be imagining that) but it sounds like he has a very british accent in the teaser? Weird.

Adam Isgreen (Creative Director at MS) said he isn't British according to this tweet.

https://twitter.com/Ishmae1/status/581290378885623809

I'm pretty hype for Cinder myself. I thought that maybe they could make his "invisibility" ability his "Instinct". Imagine trying to break auto doubles and manuals that you can't see! As for the rest of his moves, the MS team have said to expect to see them return since they want him to play identical to his old self in the classic KI ... minus the broken stuff

Simon_K wrote: »

Hisako looks pretty cool. I really wish this game was on PS4, I'd play the **** out of it.

Why not save up some money on the side for the xbone? you won't regret it, KI is a really good game. Or wait a bit longer for a possible PC version but that's not guaranteed (maybe for Season 3) and tournaments are played on XBO anyway thus you need a XBO stick.

Killer Instinct FT7 Matches.









Some great sets from some well known players from the KI community with commentary by FRQ_Steve.

2gen wrote: »

Cinder Default and Retro Costumes (Work in Progress)

Cinder Teaser



Default Look. The VFX is turned off (the flames he's engulfed in) in this picture to allow fans to see the game model.



Kevin Bayliss's take on Cinder's "Updated Retro".



Classic Cinder for comparison.

Cinder's updated story was also posted on the Ultra-Combo forums by Adam Isgreen, so for who would like to read more just click on the link.

http://www.ultra-combo.com/forums/index.php?topic=8594.0

Can't believe how many models have used jago in as a starting point, always tell by the feet

Cinder's Movelist



Adam Isgreen; 4/10/15

This week we’re going to focus on Cinder’s moveset; what is and is not coming back from his original repertoire, plus his new additions.

KI1 cinder was a straightforward character. Here’s his old core moveset:

• Trailblazer (fireball dash)

• Fire Flash (flipping upper-kick)

• Inferno (Medium-range flame jet)

• Heat Fist (short-range flame palm)

• Heatsink (invisibility)

• Mirage (projectile immunity)

So let’s just rip the bandage off here – the top 4 core moves are all back in some form. Heatsink and Mirage are not returning.

Philosophically, Cinder isn’t a character about hiding or evading, he’s about burning aggression, and we didn’t feel that his character was served well in that regard by the last two moves. Invisibility is also a very touchy fighting game mechanic – it’s either useless or too good, and we didn’t believe Cinder needed that, especially with his new repertoire.


Cinder’s moveset:

Unique trait – Fired Up!

• The Fired Up state augments the next special attack Cinder uses with additional properties.

• Cinder automatically regains Fired Up State approximately 8 seconds (4 timer units) after it is consumed, no matter what is happening.

• Fired Up State burns automatically when you do your next special move. The only way to save it for later is to simply not perform any special moves.

• Cinder’s body glows brighter and hotter, and his head/shoulder flames burns more intensely when Fired Up is ready for use.

Fire Flash (d,u+K) (damage ender)

• Yes, OF COURSE IT’S BACK! Just like you remember it.

• Light version is an invulnerable reversal attack.

• Medium and Heavy versions have improved range.

• Fired Up version shoots a lava pillar from the ground that juggles the opponent for a second hit, keeping them in the air, or keeping you relatively safe if you were blocked.

Trailblazer (b,f+K) (Opener, Linker, Wall-splat ender)

• Now a command move (b,f+K) instead of dash, due to its larger role and having a shadow version.

• Button power controls initial angle (diagonally up, straight, diagonally down)

• Once you’ve done trailblazer once, holding in any direction and hitting any K will cause a second trailblazer to happen in that direction... yes, all 8 directions!

• Works in-air too, and you can attack on the way down after its over.
  
• If you’re Fired Up, you can do a 3rd trailblazer after your 2nd before you are forced to land. Tricky!

Inferno (QCB+K) (linker, kick burnout ender)

• Medium-range jet of flame that causes a large amount of Potential Damage when blocked.

• Button power controls duration and advantage, as well as the amount of Potential Damage inflicted on block.

• Fired Up version has very long range.

• Shadow version sprays fire low to high and back again several times. Hits lots.

Fission (QCB+P) (opener, linker, punch burnout ender)

• Replacement for Heat Fist.

• Cinder smashes two Pyrobombs (more on these later) together to blow them up in your face.

• LP version is a fake out, great to mix into his pressure.

• MP version combos from some attacks, and works as a frame trap from others, but is disadvantaged on block.

• HP version has long startup, but has huge advantage on hit and block.

• Shadow version causes a large 10 hit explosion. Ouch!

Combo Trait: Burnout Enders

You may have noticed that Inferno and Fission are designated kick/punch burnout enders – what’s up with that?

Burnout enders set the opponent’s upper (punch) or lower (kick) body on fire, generating potential damage on the afflicted character for a limited amount of time, based on the ender level.

• If you use a Punch attack while suffering from Punch Burnout, you will fan the flames and reset the full duration of the burnout debuff.

• If you use a Kick attack while suffering from Kick Burnout, you will fan the flames and reset the full duration of the burnout debuff.

• Burnout enders deal very poor damage.

• If you fight an opponent who is making your life miserable with crouching medium kick, try a Kick Burnout ender to make them think twice about using the kick buttons.

• If you are suffering from Burnout and perform a combo breaker, your burnout will go away instantly.

Instinct mode: Pyromania

Cinder is permanently Fired Up. Deadly.


The new stuff!

Pyrobombs (b,f+P) (meter ender)

• Cinder throws small plasma bomb projectile at various arcs at the opponent. LP is low arc / long range, MP is mid arc / medium range, HP is high arc / short range.

• Useable in the air

• Pyrobombs are harmless, but are sticky and will attach to the opponent if they connect… even when blocking.

• Up to three Pyrobombs can be on the screen at one time. Throwing a fourth will cause all existing Pyrobombs to detonate immediately. Not so harmless anymore!

• Hitting Cinder causes all Pyrobombs in play to fizzle out harmlessly.

• Pyrobombs fizzle out harmlessly after about 7 seconds (~3.5 timer units)

• Fired Up version throws a larger Pyrobomb.

• Shadow version throws a much larger Pyrobomb.

Pyrotechnics (3P)

• Cinder snaps his fingers, detonating all Pyrobombs in play.

• Usable in the air

• Explosion size is based on the type of Pyrobomb (Normal, Fired Up, or Shadow)

• You can block these explosions even if the Pyrobombs are attached to you.

• Bombs attached to an opponent will chain-react each other and launch the enemy (if not blocking). More bombs = higher launch = easier to pick up the juggle.

Third Degree (Chain LP, MP, HP in any order)

• Cinder is a highly trained martial artist with a background in Kempo, CQC, and other military fighting systems. His body may look alien, but his fighting style is all human.

• Cinder’s Third Degree chain combos allow him to chain LPx3, or MPx3, or HPx3. Or you can mix and match these in any order up to three hits.

The final hit of each combo has properties based on which button you used.

• LP ends with a cup check for excellent frame advantage

• MP ends with a spinning attack that steps forward, keeping Cinder close

• HP ends with a launcher that is jump cancelable

Crossfire (d+HK, air only)

• Think of this as a reverse Fireflash that slams opponents down to the ground.

• Recaptures!

• Can cancel into this from an air normal, but it is not an overhead attack.

Other notables

• D+HP is a big uppercut that is also a launcher and is jump-cancellable.

• Jumping HK is the fanciest crossup ever.

• Backdash (roll) covers good distance.

And that’s that. Cinder is highly aggressive, tricky, and has some crazy juggles with bombs and trailblazer combos, especially if you reset to detonate attached bombs. Nasty!

Look for updated info from us on a video stream sometime next week to show this all off. For now, have fun theorycrafting!

Cinder's Theme Teasers by Mick Gordon

https://instagram.com/p/1TrLAmJqAL/

https://instagram.com/p/1TrcH2pqAu/

https://instagram.com/p/1TslRbJqCY/