Best vehicle

Tzar Chasm · 18-08-2013 4:04pm

a forklift would be a bad choice of vehicle, they generally don't have suspension and require very level ground.

however you have a decent idea, something like a teleporter or loading shovel would be more suited, but ya can't beat the universal work horse of a JCB 3cx .

norrie rugger · 18-08-2013 5:13pm

Articulated lorry with an empty container. If we all get one and meet at any racecourse we could stack the containers, hey presto, instant fortress. Ground containers could be filled in to provide stability. And lorries become diesel generators.

jamo2oo9 · 24-08-2013 6:20pm

Boats is basically the answer if you live on the coast. There's plenty of them around me and if the apoclypse is only in Ireland, UK is there for me unless the Navy has the defenses up. If that's the case, there's an abandoned lighthouse island I can live in. Has generators, a growing house and basic living facilities needed to stay and best of all, it's remote!

Tzar Chasm · 25-08-2013 5:22pm

norrie rugger wrote: »

Articulated lorry with an empty container. If we all get one and meet at any racecourse we could stack the containers, hey presto, instant fortress. Ground containers could be filled in to provide stability. And lorries become diesel generators.

you will also need a large fork lift to load and stack the containers

Tzar Chasm · 25-08-2013 5:24pm

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Boats is basically the answer if you live on the coast. There's plenty of them around me and if the apoclypse is only in Ireland, UK is there for me unless the Navy has the defenses up. If that's the case, there's an abandoned lighthouse island I can live in. Has generators, a growing house and basic living facilities needed to stay and best of all, it's remote!

can you sail?
otherwise boats ain't that useful when they run out of fuel.

like the lighthouse idea tho. Tuskar is mine.

jamo2oo9 · 25-08-2013 5:58pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

can you sail?
otherwise boats ain't that useful when they run out of fuel.

like the lighthouse idea tho. Tuskar is mine.

Yeah, it's very simple to be honest. An hour of a lesson will have you sorted. After that, it's just making you more experienced. Difficult thing about it is the knots you need to know. If you don't know how to sail, you can use oars when you've run out of fuel.

ScumLord · 25-08-2013 6:04pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

you will also need a large fork lift to load and stack the containers

You'll have to watch the fork lift safety instructional video first.

The problem with many vehicles in Ireland will always be the lack of fuel as time goes on. The bigger and badder the vehicle the more fuel it will guzzle.

There should be places where you'll find electric forklifts though, I've passed by a big Lidl warehouse on the way down to Cork. If there's anywhere in the country using electrically driven forklifts it's probably that place.

From next year we should start to see more pure electric vehicles coming out in Europe. These will be the ultimate apocalypse vehicles. We should always be able to generate electricity and the new battery technology should give ten years of use. With next to no maintenance they would be ideal.

The Tesla S would be the best electric available at the moment but you won't find any in Europe.

25-08-2013 6:24pm

Garda riot van all the way!
In a Zombie apocalypse you need something that can withstand attack, is not much more complicated than a standard car (very few extra moving parts) and can transport everything you need when you're going out and getting some supplies. You will have EVERYTHING you could want in a vehicle with this Garda riot van and you can fill it with everything you need too since it has tonnes of room in the back.

RiderOnTheStorm · 25-08-2013 6:37pm

Electric cars / vans will be very usefull , and with a few solar panels & windmills you can have 'fuel' for them for years to come.

An electric panel van (based on the Garda van) could be ideal . I dont think you need a tank to keep zombie fingers / nails / teeth at bay.

For after the initial rush, how about a quad-bike for getting about and scavenging? Put a trailer on the back and you can move from town to town with all your belongings, and if you want speed, then take trailer off (come back for it later).

Tzar Chasm · 25-08-2013 9:18pm

there is some sense to electric vehicles for short hop localized commuting, but i still maintain that biodieselis the best option long term.

also I wouldn't say you'd find an electric fork lift capable capable of lifting a container

norrie rugger · 26-08-2013 10:26am

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

you will also need a large fork lift to load and stack the containers

Indeed but we can use the forklift provided above.;)

bushball · 26-08-2013 10:46am

told ya forklifts would come in handy

ScumLord · 26-08-2013 6:50pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

there is some sense to electric vehicles for short hop localized commuting, but i still maintain that biodieselis the best option long term.

also I wouldn't say you'd find an electric fork lift capable capable of lifting a container

They're more than capable or they wouldn't be using them. Most the massive machinery that you see working in mines for example would be electric.

From next year when pure electrics start coming out we'll see a new breed of vehicle. They are better in just about every sense than combustion engines. They're more powerful, faster, more economical. The only thing holding them back right now is batteries but that's set to change.

I think electrics will dominate in a few years time, the cars will be so much better people will abandon combustion altogether.

Micky Dolenz · 26-08-2013 7:44pm

Train would be cool. Park it up in the middle of the sticks. Ready made fortress.

bushball · 26-08-2013 8:36pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Train would be cool. Park it up in the middle of the sticks. Ready made fortress.

not a bad idea but every zed for miles would be attracted to it, fair enough you can out run them but could get swamped if enough gathered, also it would take a bit of know how to operate

Tzar Chasm · 26-08-2013 9:03pm

ScumLord wrote: »

They're more than capable or they wouldn't be using them. Most the massive machinery that you see working in mines for example would be electric.

From next year when pure electrics start coming out we'll see a new breed of vehicle. They are better in just about every sense than combustion engines. They're more powerful, faster, more economical. The only thing holding them back right now is batteries but that's set to change.

I think electrics will dominate in a few years time, the cars will be so much better people will abandon combustion altogether.

I agree about the future of electric vehicles, but the point I was trying to make is that an empty20 foot container weighs 2-3 tons and is 2.44m wide, the sort of for lift you would rind at aldi/tesco has a max lift capacity of 1.5 tons and a tyne length of 1m.

so it couldn't possibly lift a container

degrassinoel · 26-08-2013 10:19pm

any industrial estate will have a few 3tonne and over capable forklifts, i used to drive a 2.5tonne hyster myself, great machines.

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and those are the lightweights, there are much heavier lifters around too.

Micky Dolenz · 26-08-2013 10:26pm

bushball wrote: »

not a bad idea but every zed for miles would be attracted to it, fair enough you can out run them but could get swamped if enough gathered, also it would take a bit of know how to operate

Some parts of the network are miles from any road though, thats where you'd want to be parked up. You'd also see them coming a long ways out, loads of natural (ditches) and man made (fences) obstacles in the way too.

bushball · 26-08-2013 10:28pm

still, youll have to stop to scavenge and by the time you get back there could be dozens of zeds in your way

Kess73 · 26-08-2013 11:55pm

bushball wrote: »

not a bad idea but every zed for miles would be attracted to it, fair enough you can out run them but could get swamped if enough gathered, also it would take a bit of know how to operate

Would imagine a bigger problem would be the fact that there would be nobody checking tracks for debris etc., so the chances of getting derailed would be much greater than pre Z outbreak.

Tzar Chasm · 27-08-2013 12:15am

degrassinoel wrote: »

any industrial estate will have a few 3tonne and over capable forklifts, i used to drive a 2.5tonne hyster myself, great machines.

and those are the lightweights, there are much heavier lifters around too.

ah the hyster, I used to drive a 4 speed model, really confused the fcuk out of new fellas who were used to the automatics.

the other more serious problem of tyne length and spacing comes into play if you do manage to find a machine capable of carrying the weight, you still have to balance it.

overall some kind of front end loader is the way to go, it can do most of what you want the for lift for and also comes into its own building barricades and ramparts

Micky Dolenz · 27-08-2013 8:57pm

I see you your forklift and raise you one of these bad boys.

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Renegade Mechanic · 27-08-2013 9:07pm

Right. If I were to seriously consider quickly preparing a vehicle that needed to travel (quite a lot) take serious punishment while staying reliable and be big enough to hold a few souls and their stuff and more while pushing dead vehicles and obstacles out of the way then Id go the lorry route. Now, before anyone decides to lay into me about how uneconomical they are just hear me out. Low speed and unwieldy-ness aside, a mid size rigid body diesel tanker with a crew cab and its whopping 20,000 litre tank would ensure you could go wherever you want in Ireland a few times over. I think a small pump wired to the battery and on a switch could draw diesel from the main tank into the lorries own fuel tank via some simple piping whenever it got low would suffice and is a system that could be designed in a day and implemented in an hour. Obviously when you get to the depot with your motley crew and pump in your back pack you better hope theres a a filled lorry there:D.

jamo2oo9 · 27-08-2013 9:13pm

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Right. If I were to seriously consider quickly preparing a vehicle that needed to travel (quite a lot) take serious punishment while staying reliable and be big enough to hold a few souls and their stuff and more while pushing dead vehicles and obstacles out of the way then Id go the lorry route. Now, before anyone decides to lay into me about how uneconomical they are just hear me out. Low speed and unwieldy-ness aside, a mid size rigid body diesel tanker with a crew cab and its whopping 20,000 litre tank would ensure you could go wherever you want in Ireland a few times over. I think a small pump wired to the battery and on a switch could draw diesel from the main tank into the lorries own fuel tank via some simple piping whenever it got low would suffice and is a system that could be designed in a day and implemented in an hour. Obviously when you get to the depot with your motley crew and pump in your back pack you better hope theres a a filled lorry there:D.

I agree lorries are the best and tankers would last you a long time but you have to consider on where you can get fuel from and the tank must be cleaned, disinfected so your diesel doesn't get damaged during transit. The cab would be a tight fit for a family but for two or three, it's manageable and you will have to make a makeshift cooker and toilet in the cabin

Renegade Mechanic · 27-08-2013 9:24pm

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

I agree lorries are the best and tankers would last you a long time but you have to consider on where you can get fuel from and the tank must be cleaned, disinfected so your diesel doesn't get damaged during transit. The cab would be a tight fit for a family but for two or three, it's manageable and you will have to make a makeshift cooker and toilet in the cabin

Even ordinary trucks have a range that easily tops cars if staying mobile for a while till the dust settles and safe zones sprout up is anyones goal. If you had more time on your hands you could get a normal 7 tonne box body, make the cabin and the load bay, one area, sacrifice 15-20% of the space for a 1,000 ltr diesel tank the likes of which are found outside many contractors houses. And the rest, re space for living shouldnt pose much of a problem. Two grand would cover you for fuel making buying beforehand an option.

Tzar Chasm · 27-08-2013 10:07pm

if i had time and supplies to prep a truck i'd probably go with a grain truck or something with steel sides, fabricate a roof and access from the tray to the cab

$kilkenny · 03-09-2013 10:05am

vehicle of choice is a forestry forwarder, simply coz I can get 1 easily enoigh bu also they have bullet proof glass, they can travel moreless everywhere and as for punctures the tires are built to not get punctures and they rarely get punctures. That solves that problem.
They already have diesel tanks so as for collecting diesel u have a tank, want more, just get more tanks or barrels. With the trailer you can just modify it with steel sides and a ramp and just drive a car up onto it. The machine takes diesel and the car takes petrol, and put a bike in there aswell

U can use the crane to move stuff or pick up stuff without even getting out or to kill zombies.
Only ting is its slow bu rather than travel from petrol station yo petrol station u can travel from wood to wood and park in the trees, no one will know your there and you could easily defend a wood with a few strands of barbed wire on a few trees around your camp.

ScumLord · 03-09-2013 5:29pm

I have some experience with large vans/small trucks. They suck up diesel like nobodies business. I had to drive a long wheelbase high topped Merc sprinter a few miles, put a tenner of diesel in it, the tenner didn't even register on the dash. Drove roughly 100klm and it was virtually empty after that. Compare that to my small diesel van, if I put a tenner of diesel in that it fills about a 3rd of the tank and could do the same journey 4 or 5 times.

Trucks have huge advantages but are hugely expensive in a resource low world. It would be good to have one in reserve (I guess only possible if you're settling in a fixed base) and use smaller cars for just about everything else.

norrie rugger · 03-09-2013 5:32pm

That's my thinking. A truck is great to get to a nice secluded spot and can pull all the things that you need. The cab/trailer can then be made into a fairly secure fixed base, while using bikes/horses etc to live daily

madness98 · 06-09-2013 12:05pm

I suppose the extra bonus of a horse is that it could be used to lure away a horde of the undead if the situation called for it.

bushball · 06-09-2013 6:24pm

madness98 wrote: »

I suppose the extra bonus of a horse is that it could be used to lure away a horde of the undead if the situation called for it.

the 2nd episode of walking dead comes to mind...

pie_boy · 07-09-2013 3:35pm

Ford Ka - 200 miles to the gallon, best small family car 2009, voted independently by readers of the Irish times.

Is CUMA liom. · 07-09-2013 3:41pm

http://www.oehinc.com/photos/accessories/MANITOU_ACCESSORIES_06.jpg Presenting the manitou
Deisel engine and the top speed is 30mph. It has huge mpg and it is four wheel drive and steer you never get stuck. it never breaks down and you can fit non puncture tyres and you are higher up than the zombies
you could also tow a trailer full of diesel with it and use the fork for either digging or killing zombies.
also there are quite a few around the country.

pie_boy · 07-09-2013 3:42pm

I call pies on it never breaking down.

ardmacha · 07-09-2013 3:45pm

Base yourself in a place with a wind generator, or even better a water one, with a good electric fence. Then use one of these for going about, fuel stocks would do a long time.

norrie rugger · 07-09-2013 3:48pm

Ford Ka?
No storage, no speed, no handling, no off-road capabilities, lacking space, no acceleration and provides very little protection

Tzar Chasm · 11-04-2014 10:35am

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner

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degrassinoel · 11-04-2014 11:12am

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner

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holy crap, they finally did it, they made the super survival truck from Damnation Alley

Kromdar · 11-04-2014 11:38am

is there any info on what the truck was originally designed for? it looks like some sort of safari vehicle [with all the telescopic cameras and that]. reminds me of the jurassic park truck

jimgoose · 11-04-2014 11:39am

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2024/03/ff-insanity_FINAL-IG.jpg

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It's... it's beautiful. :cool::cool::cool:

Need's a few Ma Deuces sticking out of ports on the sides, but.

jamo2oo9 · 11-04-2014 11:45am

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2024/03/ff-insanity_FINAL-IG.jpg

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I wonder how much would that cost :rolleyes:

Kromdar · 11-04-2014 12:06pm

http://www.wired.com/2014/04/worlds-biggest-rv/ - full article.

ScumLord · 11-04-2014 2:36pm

Kromdar wrote: »

http://www.wired.com/2014/04/worlds-biggest-rv/ - full article.

And the guy who made it looks like Hershel.

This truck is great but I don't know how well it would fair on small Irish roads. This thing looks like it could cross the arctic but could get stuck on narrow Irish roads and low bridges could mean a lot of redirecting.

Tzar Chasm · 18-05-2014 3:52pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/army-tank/6289362

Its mislabeled as a tank, but still

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volvo-bv-202-artic-cat-articulated-trac/6816697

anyone git a spare 10,500

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-unimog/6946542

or this baby for 1750 might be more reasonable

norrie rugger · 18-05-2014 11:00pm

honestly. A ship or boat would do me better than most of these

RiderOnTheStorm · 11-06-2014 10:18am

Finally found the BEST vehicle .......... its an amphibious motorhome!

http://youtu.be/Za63ltkMGGE

*sorry, cant post a pic .... I did use ImageShack before, but now they want payment. Anyone know another good site?*

*update: found a free site , Imgur.com *

jamo2oo9 · 11-06-2014 12:24pm

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Finally found the BEST vehicle .......... its an amphibious motorhome!

http://youtu.be/Za63ltkMGGE

*sorry, cant post a pic .... I did use ImageShack before, but now they want payment. Anyone know another good site?*

*update: found a free site , Imgur.com *

Not exactly ideal to use in Ireland as the lakes are fairly small, possibly attracts the Zeds as it would make noise from the engine and is seen as a place to raid for the survivors and plus, there's a stability problem as we rarely have calm days and windy days would extensively push it to one side. It is a nice idea, probably better if you were able to modify as much as you can.

Another problem would be fuel, those things have large fuel tanks but drinks it fairly quickly

Micky Dolenz · 11-06-2014 1:26pm

Bicycle is still my first choice. Plenty around, silent and easy to carry around obstacles. . Can cover medium distances comfortably.

Downsides: can't carry much and you need to be fit/uninjured.

jamo2oo9 · 11-06-2014 1:42pm

A speedboat is what I'll be looking to get. Plenty of them can be found in the marinas around the coast. Safe transport to the lighthouse island which is completely isolated and hard to get for the inexperienced sailors.

degrassinoel · 11-06-2014 5:23pm

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Finally found the BEST vehicle .......... its an amphibious motorhome!

http://youtu.be/Za63ltkMGGE

*sorry, cant post a pic .... I did use ImageShack before, but now they want payment. Anyone know another good site?*

*update: found a free site , Imgur.com *

tinypic is good for that too

Best vehicle

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