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*Everything HPAT and Medicine 2012*

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  • #2252
    tweetybird4848
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭tweetybird4848


    It neny! wrote: »
    Ok so what if someone that REALLY wanted medicine didn't get it? Any other options for them? any courses similar? Surely its not the end of the world, right?:(

    (coming from a student who also wants medicine:))


    I really really want medicine And didn't get it last year which was a blow! I went into human health and disease in trinity! I would strongly recommend it, it is much more medicine related then science( which I went into at the start of the year for a month). I loved the course work and it was all very medicine related for example we did embryology and human tissue types.The class is small which i loved as everyone got to know eachother well and the lecturers are lovely and look after you very well! I also repeated the hpat( the hours in first year are quite light especially in the 2nd semester which was really good for time to do hpat prep) and I hopefully will have enough points to get into trinity or ucd next year!

    It is a horrible blow not to get medicine and took me a while to get over it once it happened but I have had a fantastic year and have made some amazing friends and am very glad I didn't repeat! After human health and disease you would be in a good postition to go into post grad medicine which works out as 8 years combined, only 2 years longer then ucd med!

    If you want to steer away from med, I have friends in courses like dentistry, radiation therapy, radiography, physio and speech and language therapy who originally wanted med but love their courses!!!

    Hope this helped.


  • #2253
    casperkiid
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭casperkiid


    Can someone tell me what the minimum for medicine is in terms of leaving cert points and hpat? Thinking of repeating.. thanks :)


  • #2254
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    casperkiid wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what the minimum for medicine is in terms of leaving cert points and hpat? Thinking of repeating.. thanks :)

    Here's the trend thus far casper:

    College......2009.........2010...........2011
    Cork..........715...10.....725.......8....733*
    UCD..........719....6......725......10....735
    galwy........712*..5......719.......9....728*
    RCSI.........715*..6.......721.....11....732
    Trinity.......724*..7......731*.....8.....739*

    no one knows exactly what it'll be this year, but i'm guessing add about 5 points onto each, possibly more for this year due to bonus maths points.

    To be 100% safe and sure of a place you would want in and around 744+, but 737+ should get you into some colleges this year (hopefully)


  • #2255
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    casperkiid wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what the minimum for medicine is in terms of leaving cert points and hpat? Thinking of repeating.. thanks :)

    Last year the minimum overall points were 728, in NUIG. The highest was Trinity with 741 on the first round offers, but this dropped in later rounds.

    Technically the minimum LC you have to get is 480, but it would be very unlikely to get in with anything under 520 at the very least, and that's with a top HPAT.

    Most people would be trying to get to 550, as after this, every 5 points are capped as 1 point, so the max you can get is 565 (600 points, and 25 higher maths bonus points).

    HPAT wise, the range of results varies from year to year, but 170 last year with 600 points in the LC would just have scraped in. The aim would be to get over the 80th percentile.

    If you have a read of this document, it will give you all the information you need. When the link opens you'll need to replace the stars in the URL with medentry, as boards has a censor on that word ;)


  • #2256
    It neny!
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭It neny!


    tweetybird4848 wrote: »
    I really really want medicine And didn't get it last year which was a blow! I went into human health and disease in trinity! I would strongly recommend it, it is much more medicine related then science( which I went into at the start of the year for a month). I loved the course work and it was all very medicine related for example we did embryology and human tissue types.The class is small which i loved as everyone got to know eachother well and the lecturers are lovely and look after you very well! I also repeated the hpat( the hours in first year are quite light especially in the 2nd semester which was really good for time to do hpat prep) and I hopefully will have enough points to get into trinity or ucd next year!

    It is a horrible blow not to get medicine and took me a while to get over it once it happened but I have had a fantastic year and have made some amazing friends and am very glad I didn't repeat! After human health and disease you would be in a good postition to go into post grad medicine which works out as 8 years combined, only 2 years longer then ucd med!

    If you want to steer away from med, I have friends in courses like dentistry, radiation therapy, radiography, physio and speech and language therapy who originally wanted med but love their courses!!!

    Hope this helped.

    Thanks for that! Sorry to hear that, at least, like u said, you benefitted from the year :) They're some great courses too. How many points are required for human health and disease in trinity and do you still need over 180 in the hpat to get into postgrad medicine after doing human health and disease?


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  • #2257
    0mega
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Hi, sitting my HPAT next year and I've come across the concept of 'speed reading' on the internet.

    Do you think this would be a beneficial skill to develop for the HPAT? Is it tricky to get all the Section 1 questions read and comprehended within the timeframe? Thanks.


  • #2258
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    It neny! wrote: »
    Thanks for that! Sorry to hear that, at least, like u said, you benefitted from the year :) They're some great courses too. How many points are required for human health and disease in trinity and do you still need over 180 in the hpat to get into postgrad medicine after doing human health and disease?

    Description of the course on qualifax is here. The points are at the bottom.

    For graduate entry medicine, HPAT and LC do not matter, instead you have to sit the GAMSAT exam and have a minimum 2.1 in your first degree. There's a whole forum on it here ;)


  • #2259
    whatsec
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭whatsec


    oh I had missed this thread, disappointed I didn't see it till now. what points are people predicting medicine to be this year? I want to go to ucd, min 725 and average 735 last year I think? 740 this year ?


  • #2260
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    whatsec wrote: »
    oh I had missed this thread, disappointed I didn't see it till now. what points are people predicting medicine to be this year? I want to go to ucd, min 725 and average 735 last year I think? 740 this year ?

    Slightly higher unfortunately, it was 725 in 2010 and 735 last year. hollingr's post above outlines the point changes over the last few years. The points this year are anyone's guess really, a rise is expected due to the bonus points for maths, besides that its very hard to know!


  • #2261
    whatsec
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭whatsec


    QueenOfLeon wrote: »
    Slightly higher unfortunately, it was 725 in 2010 and 735 last year. hollingr's post above outlines the point changes over the last few years. The points this year are anyone's guess really, a rise is expected due to the bonus points for maths, besides that its very hard to know!

    oh yeah that's very true. Got a good result in the hpat so I should only need 540 ish points unless it goes up drastically. Fingers crossed anyway


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  • #2262
    spasmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    Anyone know if a 2:1 in a first year degree would let you skip the first year in UCD ?


  • #2263
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    They take skipping on a case by case basis in UCD.. as far as I know, there is no set rules for who gets to skip 1st year.

    From what I've heard from people in UCD now, is that they've tightened up on who gets to skip pre-med since it is basically free money for them and money is tight.

    Best thing to do is email, tell them your situation and grades thus far and what you expect, and if that would be enough to skip pre-med.


  • #2264
    tweetybird4848
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭tweetybird4848


    spasmaster wrote: »
    Anyone know if a 2:1 in a first year degree would let you skip the first year in UCD ?

    I got a 2.1 too! You werent in HH and D by any chance! Are you putting trinity first?


  • #2265
    spasmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    Yeah i was in hhd :). Stuck between ucd and tcd.


  • #2266
    tweetybird4848
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭tweetybird4848


    spasmaster wrote: »
    Yeah i was in hhd :). Stuck between ucd and tcd.

    So am I! I love trinity but I've always wanted to do med in ucd! The only thing putting me off is the gamble on whether or not you can skip premed!

    Does anyone have experience on skipping premed and is anyone familier with the procedure for picking who can skip it? Like do you have to do an interview or anything and when does it happen? Thanks so much:)!


  • #2267
    kevhall9
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭kevhall9


    got 196 in my hpat and have to repeat next year cos I won't have the points... ffffuuuuuuu-

    Why can't I just get med for being a general genius, if totall uninterested in English/French/Irish/Music/Loads of other absolute crap I'll never need..? :)


  • #2268
    iluvgreenday246
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭iluvgreenday246


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    got 196 in my hpat and have to repeat next year cos I won't have the points... ffffuuuuuuu-

    Why can't I just get med for being a general genius, if totall uninterested in English/French/Irish/Music/Loads of other absolute crap I'll never need..? :)

    I'm sorry but, what?

    First of all, getting a high score in the HPAT does not make you a 'genius' it just means you have a good aptitude and your way of thinking is well adapted to the HPAT, bravo.

    But basically I think you need a bit of a wake up call. There are probably hundreds of people around the country who want med and are uninterested in certain subjects like English and French, but they are willing to make themselves interested in them in order to be able to study something they love.... its not about the college letting you in, its about competing with the people who want the same place as you really.

    And also, in my opinion the leaving cert also tests your aptitude for work and if you arent able to learn six courses well in two years, how can you cope with medicine? You realise that you will have to learn a massive amount of information in medicine and being amazing at the HAPT isn't going to help you with that in the slightest.


  • #2269
    Sugrue
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Sugrue


    hey so i got a 196 in my hpat this year combined with 540 would that be enough to get me in i didnt do higher maths and i now feel at a disadvantage


  • #2270
    drbtrenier
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭drbtrenier


    Sugrue wrote: »
    hey so i got a 196 in my hpat this year combined with 540 would that be enough to get me in i didnt do higher maths and i now feel at a disadvantage

    Where are you hoping to go, or does it matter? That's a combined total of 736, which may or may not get you in, I'd say it'll be pretty close for Galway, but I'm not really sure if you have a shot for anywhere else, sorry to dishearten you. It will totally depend on how much the points go up by, and doubtless there will be an increase because of the bonus points for higher Maths. We can't really know how much of an increase that's going to be though!

    This is only my opinion, I could be totally wrong!


  • #2271
    Liveforrugby
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭Liveforrugby


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    got 196 in my hpat and have to repeat next year cos I won't have the points... ffffuuuuuuu-

    Why can't I just get med for being a general genius, if totall uninterested in English/French/Irish/Music/Loads of other absolute crap I'll never need..? :)

    Nice to see you've remained humble :D


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  • #2272
    FaoiSin
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    got 196 in my hpat and have to repeat next year cos I won't have the points... ffffuuuuuuu-

    Why can't I just get med for being a general genius, if totall uninterested in English/French/Irish/Music/Loads of other absolute crap I'll never need..? :)

    Everything about your post tells me you're not a genius -_-


  • #2273
    Dicksboro_man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Dicksboro_man


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    got 196 in my hpat and have to repeat next year cos I won't have the points... ffffuuuuuuu-

    Why can't I just get med for being a general genius, if totall uninterested in English/French/Irish/Music/Loads of other absolute crap I'll never need..? :)

    if you're such genius, why didnt you take up a few extra subjects outside school huh? cause since you're so smart, it'd be no bother to you your grace.

    Im definitely not a genius but I did do 2 extra subjects for my Leaving and got 185 in HPAT so hopefully that should be enough.


  • #2274
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Sugrue wrote: »
    hey so i got a 196 in my hpat this year combined with 540 would that be enough to get me in i didnt do higher maths and i now feel at a disadvantage

    outside chance for RCSI, bit better odds for galway. Best of luck!

    I'm sitting on 737 so in the same boat.

    The maths is probably going to go against you alright.. If you did hons maths you'd be over 550 and in for sure. I honestly think you will get in somewhere though with 736, there is every chance that Galway won't go up by more than 8 points, the hpat results stagnated this year so any change is going to be purely down to the bonus for maths.

    At least you know if you do end up having to repeat that hard work will get you through, as your hpat is already right up there with the best of them.

    Here is the cao points so far for reference, always worth looking at the trend:

    College......2009.........2010...........2011
    Cork..........715...10.....725.......8....733*
    UCD..........719....6......725......10....735
    galwy........712*..5......719.......9....728*
    RCSI.........715*..6.......721.....11....732
    Trinity.......724*..7......731*.....8.....739*


  • #2275
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    Hollingr - interested in your mathamatical theory in an earlier post where you reckon it will go up by about 5 points. did you consider last years canditates on 520 / 525 who a)had a good HPAT and b) who got a good repeated hpat score and are now using the bonus points - an awful lot more candidates are in the mix this time so i say more like 8 to 12 points jump??
    hollingr wrote: »
    outside chance for RCSI, bit better odds for galway. Best of luck!

    I'm sitting on 737 so in the same boat.

    The maths is probably going to go against you alright.. If you did hons maths you'd be over 550 and in for sure. I honestly think you will get in somewhere though with 736, there is every chance that Galway won't go up by more than 8 points, the hpat results stagnated this year so any change is going to be purely down to the bonus for maths.

    At least you know if you do end up having to repeat that hard work will get you through, as your hpat is already right up there with the best of them.

    Here is the cao points so far for reference, always worth looking at the trend:

    College......2009.........2010...........2011
    Cork..........715...10.....725.......8....733*
    UCD..........719....6......725......10....735
    galwy........712*..5......719.......9....728*
    RCSI.........715*..6.......721.....11....732
    Trinity.......724*..7......731*.....8.....739*


  • #2276
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Mad Shark wrote: »
    Hollingr - interested in your mathamatical theory in an earlier post where you reckon it will go up by about 5 points. did you consider last years canditates on 520 / 525 who a)had a good HPAT and b) who got a good repeated hpat score and are now using the bonus points - an awful lot more candidates are in the mix this time so i say more like 8 to 12 points jump??

    ah in fairness, that was pure speculation, and very oversimplified, but statistically speaking the P(525+ L.C) AND P(Hons maths in 6 best) AND P(HPAT 180+) is quite miniscule in the grand scheme of things... but that could be wrong due to the many assumptions I made along the way, like not taking into account that people who get high lc's might be more likely to get a high hpat than the simple stats would suggest.

    The other main thing to note is once you are over 550 the absolute maximum effect of honours maths is 5 points, and most people getting over 550 won't use honours maths in their 6 best.. I went into a few scenarios on this in a previous post. The higher you get over 550 the less likely it is to get anything from the maths bonus, and far more likely to only get a 2-3 point increase.

    Time will tell.. I just did those calculations for fun! Have to take all predictions people make with a pinch of salt. An 8 point jump is just as possible as a 5 point jump, but my gut tells me the increases can't just continue to increase year on year at the rate they have.. there was always going to be points jump with the new system finding it's feet but now the hpat results have settled I think the increases will be less and less... but the hons maths is a curveball that is hard to predict. Without it, I'd be very confident of a sub 5 point increase.


    edit: here's the original post in case anyone is interested... I made a few more discussing the ins and outs of the possible effect of bonus maths, but I seem to have misplaced em!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78534803


  • #2277
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    I follow your line of thinking - thanks


  • #2278
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    spasmaster wrote: »
    Yeah i was in hhd :). Stuck between ucd and tcd.

    What is hhd?


  • #2279
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    hollingr wrote: »
    ah in fairness, that was pure speculation, and very oversimplified, but statistically speaking the P(525+ L.C) AND P(Hons maths in 6 best) AND P(HPAT 180+) is quite miniscule in the grand scheme of things... but that could be wrong due to the many assumptions I made along the way, like not taking into account that people who get high lc's might be more likely to get a high hpat than the simple stats would suggest.

    The other main thing to note is once you are over 550 the absolute maximum effect of honours maths is 5 points, and most people getting over 550 won't use honours maths in their 6 best.. I went into a few scenarios on this in a previous post. The higher you get over 550 the less likely it is to get anything from the maths bonus, and far more likely to only get a 2-3 point increase.

    Time will tell.. I just did those calculations for fun! Have to take all predictions people make with a pinch of salt. An 8 point jump is just as possible as a 5 point jump, but my gut tells me the increases can't just continue to increase year on year at the rate they have.. there was always going to be points jump with the new system finding it's feet but now the hpat results have settled I think the increases will be less and less... but the hons maths is a curveball that is hard to predict. Without it, I'd be very confident of a sub 5 point increase.


    edit: here's the original post in case anyone is interested... I made a few more discussing the ins and outs of the possible effect of bonus maths, but I seem to have misplaced em!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78534803


    I really do hope you get in - you contributed the most value wise to this thread... good luck..


  • #2280
    butterfli
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭butterfli


    Leaving cert now, debating potential scores later. ;)
    Yay the LC is over! (for most people anyway) :D


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  • #2281
    Paralysis
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    butterfli wrote: »
    Leaving cert now, debating potential scores later. ;)
    Yay the LC is over! (for most people anyway) :D

    And A-levels YeeeeeeeeeeeE!

    Judging from how they went, the most I could hope for is 756
    More likely worst case scenario would be 747...

    Possibility for Trinity? I know that it is really hard to predict, but i'm thinking it'll be close, but I have a shot, right?


  • #2282
    Dicksboro_man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Dicksboro_man


    Paralysis wrote: »
    And A-levels YeeeeeeeeeeeE!

    Judging from how they went, the most I could hope for is 756
    More likely worst case scenario would be 747...

    Possibility for Trinity? I know that it is really hard to predict, but i'm thinking it'll be close, but I have a shot, right?

    jeez, thats really good, well done, you've a fair shot at trinity.

    my max is only 750 but more like 740 at the mo...


  • #2283
    Paralysis
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    Dicksboro_man wrote: »
    jeez, thats really good, well done, you've a fair shot at trinity.

    my max is only 750 but more like 740 at the mo...

    Thanks :) Good Luck! My last exam was today - Biology - and it did NOT go well, so i'm a little in panic mode in case I bombed it!


  • #2284
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    @paralysis: biology today?? I think you're getting mixed up

    Mad Shark wrote: »
    I really do hope you get in - you contributed the most value wise to this thread... good luck..

    ah thanks, I'm in already as a mature student this year, pretty much guaranteed.. but I hope I can get in as an undergraduate and save myself €27,000+ over the 5 years!!


  • #2285
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    Dicksboro_man wrote: »
    jeez, thats really good, well done, you've a fair shot at trinity.

    my max is only 750 but more like 740 at the mo...

    With 740 it will be enough to get you a place somewhere hopefully..... confident?


  • #2286
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    hollingr wrote: »
    @paralysis: biology today?? I think you're getting mixed up




    ah thanks, I'm in already as a mature student this year, pretty much guaranteed.. but I hope I can get in as an undergraduate and save myself €27,000+ over the 5 years!!

    mind me asking how you came up with 27k+ - i thought grad entry was 15k a year?


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  • #2287
    Paralysis
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    hollingr wrote: »
    @paralysis: biology today?? I think you're getting mixed up




    ah thanks, I'm in already as a mature student this year, pretty much guaranteed.. but I hope I can get in as an undergraduate and save myself €27,000+ over the 5 years!!

    Nah - A-levels, I had biology (OCR F214), well, yesterday now! :)


  • #2288
    DrShredded
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭DrShredded


    I'm stuck between RCSI and UCD. Everyone seems to be pointing me towards UCD because of rumours about the poor social life in RCSI. however, People in RCSI say the social life is good there because of the small college size. Why do so few people have it as their first choice.

    Does anyone know anyone in RCSI or UCD? or Could anyone help me with the decision as there are only 8 days left. Thanks


  • #2289
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    I know people currently in RCSI/UCD, and also some that recently finished. What would you like to know?


  • #2290
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Mad Shark wrote: »
    mind me asking how you came up with 27k+ - i thought grad entry was 15k a year?

    As a mature student, RCSI fees were 15,640 in 2011.

    As an undergraduate, fees were 10127.

    So difference is 5513 x5 = 27565 over the 5 years.


  • #2291
    tweetybird4848
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭tweetybird4848


    Does anyone know what date cao offers are out on?


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  • #2292
    Just Like Heaven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    20th August I think.


  • #2293
    Paralysis
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    Are CAO offers out the same day as LC results?


  • #2294
    hollingr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    August 15th: Expected delivery of LC results to schools


    20 August (expected date): Round 1 offers for CAO


  • #2295
    DrShredded
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭DrShredded


    1. Is the social life in UCD better than in RCSI. ie. Is one college more fun than the other? People in RCSi argue that RCSI small campus makes it more intimate, but why do you hear so often about the lack of fun in RCSI...... rumours usually start for a reason.
    Is there more chance I lose contact with my school friends in RSCI than in UCD?
    I understand how the social life in UCD would be better for the first couple of years (greater diversity of courses and more irish students) but will this really matter after 3rd med when the only people you see are from med and most of your time is spent off campus?
    The 'Irish Society' in RCSI is worrying. Is it not weird to be in the middle of Dublin in a foreign university?
    Supposedly, RCSI is quite divided in terms of cultures, ie. irish stick with irish. It is argued this is no longer the case after 3rd med, but surely you mix better with people in the 'western world' because of more similarities.

    2. Should the new students centre in UCD draw me there? Will I use it often enough for it to matter, will I use it at all after 3rd med when the work load builds.

    3. The campus in RCSI is quite small. Does this mean there are noticeably less academic facilities in RCSI an comparison to UCD? However does this really matter if I will only attend lectures there and most of a students life is spent studying in an apartment or in beaumont. Or are the academic facilities in UCD an advantage?

    4. The main RCSI sports facilities are in Dardistown. I can only imagine this is inconvenient. Is the proximity of the sports facilities in UCD an advantage for UCD in terms of sports. RCSI also has a lot fewer societies I could see myself joining eg. Association of Norwegian Students Abroad. Is this a reason to choose UCD (more societies)?

    5. My mam went to UCD and says you are treated quite impersonally there.Apparently, the lecturers and doctors there are quite harsh compared to those in the smaller, friendlier RCSI. Has it changed?

    6. My mam also says there was less clinical orientated training in UCD. The students of RCSI spend more time in the hospital around patients, becoming more 'clinically polished' as a result. She says although you get the same standard of degree in both places, RCSI grads leave college with a more developed 'bedside manner'.

    7. Is there any difference between Vincents/The matter and Beaumont in terms of teaching hospital quality?

    8. (Probably Question for graduates) I hear post-grad training in RCSI is the best in Ireland and is the best thing about the college academically. Is it true it's near impossible to get onto the BST "Basic Surgical Training" programme or into any other post-grad position in RCSI without going there?

    9. (Personal question) My dad is a surgeon in Beaumont who sometimes lectures and examines med students in RCSI. I this a reason for me to got to RCSI? ie. Will this be in any way helpful to me? Could you ask your friends bout the experience of anyone they know in RCSI in a similar position. Thanks

    10. ( Prob for grads again) I hear the competition for SHO places is sick. Are contacts in medicine useful in getting into jobs/positions. Will my dad's contacts (work colleagues, professor of surg, Dean of college) be in any way beneficial in this respect?

    Thanks hollingr for your time and the help. It's much appreciated.


  • #2296
    Sunny!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    does anyone know the fees for graduate entry to medicine roughly?


  • #2297
    Mad Shark
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Mad Shark


    Sunny!! wrote: »
    does anyone know the fees for graduate entry to medicine roughly?


    Have a look at the college sites where all the fees are supplied - had a quick look at Cork Uni - its 13k per year for Grad Entry Fees there - i suspect the rest are similar enough.


  • #2298
    DeadEight
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭DeadEight


    RCSI: €16,940 in 2012
    UL: €14,915 in 2012

    The HEA funding dropped this year, so the fees below from last year are expected to increase for 2012.
    UCC: €13,195 in 2011
    UCD: €13,915 in 2011


  • #2299
    Sunny!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    do people know would it be easy to get a loan? i plan on doing physio or dentistry going getting work maybe and going back to do med?


  • #2300
    DeadEight
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭DeadEight


    Sunny!! wrote: »
    do people know would it be easy to get a loan? i plan on doing physio or dentistry going getting work maybe and going back to do med?
    The loans are starting to disappear. Unless you have a parent/friend willing to co-sign a loan you may have no chance of getting a loan. GEM is €60k+ in fees alone. There are no student supports like the Student Grant, so you also need to fund rent, food etc. from your own resources.

    It looks like the first batch of GEM students are not paying back the loans. They just don't earn enough to make serious repayments. The banks are not going to lend money unless they think they will get it back, and right now they are not getting it back.

    To go down the route you are talking about is risky, and expensive. Why not go back around the HPAT/LC route? You would still graduate earlier than the GEM route.


  • #2301
    Sunny!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Sunny!!


    DeadEight wrote: »
    The loans are starting to disappear. Unless you have a parent/friend willing to co-sign a loan you may have no chance of getting a loan. GEM is €60k+ in fees alone. There are no student supports like the Student Grant, so you also need to fund rent, food etc. from your own resources.

    It looks like the first batch of GEM students are not paying back the loans. They just don't earn enough to make serious repayments. The banks are not going to lend money unless they think they will get it back, and right now they are not getting it back.

    To go down the route you are talking about is risky, and expensive. Why not go back around the HPAT/LC route? You would still graduate earlier than the GEM route.


    I have no problem doing the hpat and lc again:) but its the stigma attached to it is worrying me. I done it the first time and was way off, my hpat was an improvement this year but a bit short, and my lc is about 530 so not great, but the third time:(, i do want it though!


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