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Speed camera mega-thread ***Read first post before posting***

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭Abraham


    There's a new REALITY now for road users and it's this.
    Once the Cameras kick in, you drive within the speed limits or get off the road.

    Something else we should bear in mind is that there is no guarantee of fairness when it comes to applying the law.
    Kinda pains me when I drive along a road where I got 2 penalty points 3 years ago for doing 50 in a 40 only to see that the same road, with no change of any kind in conditions, has now been designated a 60 zone......Aaaaagh.
    Learned my lesson though on speeding !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    I'm kind of "meh" about the whole thing...

    As much as I hate the existence of inappropriately set speed limits and I feel that I'm able to drive safely and quickly without being dangerous, if you take the choice away from me and we all have to obey all the speed limits all the time, then driving will presumably be more relaxing and simpler (but less involving and "fun").


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    jock101 wrote: »
    Get used to driving at 5k below the speed limit, and get to know the speed limits of the area's you drive in!

    Why in the name of God would you drive at 5kms under the limit..:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    because you can 't overtake any more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    Seen the first one today in Dundalk. Thanks god I was driving slow in my girlfriends 1.2 and not my m3!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭Mits


    I saw one of the van's in batterstown on friday. I think I'll be getting a letter in the post. I have no idea what speed I was doing but I was driving safely in a line of traffic.

    The country is ridiculous and the people are constantly getting screwed. I can not believe the people are such sheep to put up with all that is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭limklad


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I think the real problem here is not the cameras but the sometimes inappropriate limits. Rather than giving out about enforcement, wouldn't it make more sense to focus on getting limits adjusted where a good argument can be made for it?
    Also inappropriate limits for roads I agree with. There is lots of roads that are too dangerous even for 50kph, but councils on the other hand are too extreme is where there is 50kph that are wide with no history of serious accidents such as the Condell road in Limerick city council where 3.5Km stretch is now 50kph (non build up area and no housing estate access like most roads, used to be 100kph under Limerick County Council before been reduced to 60kph before the city took it over.
    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Condell+Road,+Limerick&sll=53.349399,-6.259933&sspn=0.015909,0.033731&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Condell+Rd,+Limerick,+County+Limerick&ll=52.661036,-8.664292&spn=0,0.016866&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.661036,-8.664292&panoid=wDdRSb0hZ-xJH6Q1YI5ghQ&cbp=12,120.64,,0,6.37

    This stretch of road should be 80kph should be used here, not 60kph on the old N21 road into Rathkeale from the Five Cross Roads.
    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Five+Cross+Roads,+Limerick&sll=52.661036,-8.664292&sspn=0.008407,0.016866&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Five+Cross+Roads,+County+Limerick&ll=52.526144,-8.910856&spn=0,0.033731&z=15&layer=c&cbll=52.52612,-8.911017&panoid=1z2agFszlShAJm_Y-u5-kw&cbp=12,81.13,,0,-13.66

    Same as the other side of Rathkeale
    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=gpo+dublin&sll=51.179148,-1.826394&sspn=0.001145,0.002803&ie=UTF8&hq=GPO&hnear=GPO,+Custom+House+Quay,+Dublin+1,+County+Dublin+City,+Ireland&ll=53.349066,-6.260147&spn=0.016703,0.044847&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.349392,-6.259913&panoid=af5UzjlXJmCx54yna2HvnA&cbp=12,274.32,,0,-3.46

    Look at this for ridiculous speed Limits assignments on this same road
    Here on a Passage way type road you can legal do 80kph where you could easily have an accident at this speed.
    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=gpo+dublin&sll=51.179148,-1.826394&sspn=0.001145,0.002803&ie=UTF8&hq=GPO&hnear=GPO,+Custom+House+Quay,+Dublin+1,+County+Dublin+City,+Ireland&ll=53.349066,-6.260147&spn=0.016703,0.044847&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.349392,-6.259913&panoid=af5UzjlXJmCx54yna2HvnA&cbp=12,274.32,,0,-3.46
    and when you get to the Normal two way road you are force to do 60kph see the sign post for each road junction.
    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Five+Cross+Roads,+Limerick&sll=52.661036,-8.664292&sspn=0.008407,0.016866&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Five+Cross+Roads,+County+Limerick&layer=c&cbll=52.513304,-8.968997&panoid=o-RULTAFtMOe6PWwIR5bRw&cbp=12,9.63,,0,4.43&ll=52.513374,-8.968921&spn=0,0.033731&z=15


    What is the danger on this stretch of road that causes a 60kph to be so far out of Rathkeale? There is no Traffic choas that will cause Rathkeale to jam up, it is already bypassed for donkey years. Stroll up and down using Google maps street view to find out for yourself. I do not see a reason for it.

    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Five+Cross+Roads,+Limerick&sll=52.661036,-8.664292&sspn=0.008407,0.016866&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Five+Cross+Roads,+County+Limerick&ll=52.513374,-8.968921&spn=0,0.033731&z=15&layer=c&cbll=52.513304,-8.968997&panoid=o-RULTAFtMOe6PWwIR5bRw&cbp=12,9.63,,0,4.43


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭limklad


    A new "Accident Black Spot" road sign campaign may be warranted
    Agreed, Signs and later road markings like on this R521 road which has been there for 25 years+. This was a know accident blackspot during the 80's the only road improvement was a road surface and additional signs and road markings.

    http://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Five+Cross+Roads,+Limerick&sll=52.661036,-8.664292&sspn=0.008407,0.016866&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Five+Cross+Roads,+County+Limerick&layer=c&cbll=52.471807,-9.065901&panoid=QldvIToHJQ7IRPsPWzo76A&cbp=12,182.52,,0,-0.27&ll=52.471807,-9.065901&spn=0,0.002108&z=19

    If you look at the RSA website between 2006 and 2008 there been no accidents on this stretch of bends on this road.
    http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Ireland-Road-Collisions/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Do these fu!cking things flash, or do you just have to wait on the post to find out you were caught?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭Shane732


    bryaner wrote: »
    Do these fu!cking things flash, or do you just have to wait on the post to find out you were caught?

    I think you should take the prudent approach and assume you were caught. These f**king things will probably catch you even when you're stopped!

    If anyone knows an easy way to exchange a Southern licence for a Northern one PM me!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭NFD100


    Mits wrote: »
    I saw one of the van's in batterstown on friday. I think I'll be getting a letter in the post. I have no idea what speed I was doing but I was driving safely in a line of traffic.

    The country is ridiculous and the people are constantly getting screwed. I can not believe the people are such sheep to put up with all that is going on.


    You should try living over here! We've had them for years. Not only that but red light cameras and bus lane cameras.................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    I love this time of year...Autumn..leaves blowing everywhere..i'd not be suprised if a couple blew up and got stuck to my front reg plate......;);)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    ulinbac wrote: »
    Only think they should increase the limits on the motorway if we train a better quality if driver. There are around 250k learners on the road and loads are using the motorway (which they shouldn't). So more cameras are needed on the roads.

    The learner drivers are only half the problem. The other half is the clueless morons that have already been given licences, because our driver testing system allows people that can't pass simple school exams onto our roads.
    ART6 wrote: »
    6. Appoint to the RSA a media personality who is revered by the public as a national treasure but who doesn't drive. Let him tell the proles how delinquent they are, because they will accept his word, will tell the Rosary, and pay their fines.

    You're kidding right? Gay Byrne doesn't drive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gunners89


    bryaner wrote: »
    Do these fu!cking things flash, or do you just have to wait on the post to find out you were caught?
    yeah they flash,will b out in few wks time all over the place,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gunners89


    great to see it starting,should all slow down


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gunners89


    antodeco wrote: »
    If they are parked illegally, and are private, doesn't this mean that evidence used against you, if it went to court, is inadmissible, as evidence gathered against you was done so in an illegal manner?
    they b parked in proper pull off areas,were u see garda only signs at the min.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Wasnt sure if this deserves a thread to itsself....

    The guards have published a list of the roads which are going to be targeted by cameras called "Speed Enforcement Zones".
    http://www.garda.ie/sez/default.aspx

    Across the country a lot of the zones seem to be accident black spots on the "old" primary routes now by passed by motorways.
    Of course some stretches are bypassed by tolled motorways, and the old N road remains a useful toll dodge route.
    In both cases the old road is normally re-designated a R road, and automatically getting the lower speed limit for back roads of 80kmh.
    In the past, with masses of traffic, these roads had lots of accidents. So now they are on the list of super-dangerous roads, due to masses of accidents when they were an N road.
    Does it make sense to use old accident statistics from the road's hey-day to bring out the hair dryers now targeted at formerly busy roads?

    Either way, toll dodgers are going to get a fierce rough go of it if the private companies are enforcing the 80kmh on all these old stretches of former National Roads (/former very dangerous roads)!
    Well, you've been warned!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Yes private cameras are a commin... Went past two less than a km apart on the m2 ashbourne by pass. I was going 130 with the first...

    Yes i know I am guility.... At least i reframed from the 150 MARK

    Anyway...Just waiting on the ticket....and points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭rod flanders


    The fleet of vans will carry radar cameras that can catch as many as six speeding cars travelling in either direction, every second, day or night, regardless of weather conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,557 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    this part

    Private company the GoSafe consortium will provide 6,000 hours of filming by the cameras every month, and the system will go live in November. But each zone will have a sign erected to warn motorists they face the prospect of being caught


    6000 hours a month is about 200 hours per day.
    Assuming they stay in the same spot for 10hrs, that's twenty spots per day in the whole country covered. It's a lot but certainly doesn't mean the roads will be pickled with them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gunners89


    everyone is gonna b off the road in six months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Not me. They can take all the pictures they want of the front of my bike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gunners89


    Not me. They can take all the pictures they want of the front of my bike.
    well they will get u goin the other way,they can work on upto 4 lanes at a time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Wasn't there some high moral announcement when they came out that they weren't to be used as cash cows, and would only be put on black spot known accident areas and high risk areas?

    Well, that lasted long. 2 cameras on the 120kph Ballincollig Bypass today in Cork, one facing east, one west on a lovely wide open Dual Carriageway. Fish in a barrel!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭flutered


    do you believe in santa and the tooth fairy, all this shower require is revenue, and badly at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    They are still testing them I think, not officially to be in use until mid November.

    It was said that a sign will be put up to warn that a speed camera is on the road too and that they will be placed at accident black spots......I have my doubts to be honest.

    Revenue generators hiding behind the safety aspect and the fear tactic of demonising speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Apologies - I thought the system was up and running currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭jock101


    Kill the Speed, avoid the fines!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    How are these calibrated ?
    Is it a % over the limit you get snapped ?

    or is it points for 101 kph, 121 kph etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭embracingLife


    Saw one of those vans parked on old Ballinteer road in Dundrum, Dublin this afternoon about 3pm. For those of you unfamiliar with this road,its a small road past a housing estate.

    Anyway,as I approached it, I could see flashes of light-(first I thought it was lightning as its a windy/rainy day!) as cars ahead of me drove past this white van, but it was only as I got nearer I realised it was coming from this van.
    Sure enough it was a speed camera van with only the words "Garda" written on back door and black windows on back doors of van. No reflectors at all on van so its only an ordinary looking white van and from the distance no way at all to tell what it is,so looks like these vans are going to catch everyone all the time.

    No,I didn't get flashed myself luckily enough as I was going easy.

    I couldn't believe it was parked on such a road, suppose the fish shooters in the back were counting their haul!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Anyway,as I approached it, I could see flashes of light-(first I thought it was lightning as its a windy/rainy day!) as cars ahead of me drove past this white van, but it was only as I got nearer I realised it was coming from this van.
    Sure enough it was a speed camera van with only the words "Garda" written on back door and black windows on back doors of van. No reflectors at all on van so its only an ordinary looking white van and from the distance no way at all to tell what it is,so looks like these vans are going to catch everyone all the time.
    A white van parked on the LHS with black windows and its back facing towards traffic, flashing, and with 'Garda' written on the back door? The sneaky so-and-sos.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Anan1 wrote: »
    A white van parked on the LHS with black windows and its back facing towards traffic, flashing, and with 'Garda' written on the back door? The sneaky so-and-sos.;)

    and to make it worse they were trying to catch speeders in a residential area on a day when visability was reduced ....... the liberty ..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭embracingLife


    its only when you get right beside it do you see the words garda. Is that you Gay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Saw one of those vans parked on old Ballinteer road in Dundrum, Dublin this afternoon about 3pm. For those of you unfamiliar with this road,its a small road past a housing estate.

    Anyway,as I approached it, I could see flashes of light-(first I thought it was lightning as its a windy/rainy day!) as cars ahead of me drove past this white van, but it was only as I got nearer I realised it was coming from this van.
    Sure enough it was a speed camera van with only the words "Garda" written on back door and black windows on back doors of van. No reflectors at all on van so its only an ordinary looking white van and from the distance no way at all to tell what it is,so looks like these vans are going to catch everyone all the time.

    No,I didn't get flashed myself luckily enough as I was going easy.

    I couldn't believe it was parked on such a road, suppose the fish shooters in the back were counting their haul!


    two things

    1 that road is full of houses and not "shooting fish in a barrell" but sensible, its when they are on motorways or on three lane dual carraigeways built as motorways but set as n roads that the are barrell shooting

    2 thats a gards speed trap you saw; the private gatso don't flash and have no markings they are very discrete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Those vans usually have a 3 phase power connector sticking out of where you'd normally have a fuel cap too.
    jock101 wrote: »
    Kill the Speed, avoid the fines!;)

    And if you stop having sex, you'll never get AIDS, but where's the fun in that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭embracingLife


    one million posts,Gay is this all you do? I suppose you never speed?

    I drive that road every day and see people regularly pull out of the side roads from those houses and they put the boot to the floor completely unecessarily,so its not speeders who drive through there that the van was catching.

    I couldn't give a fiddlers what type of van it was either garda or gatso,I only making a comment what I saw, so you needn't get pedantic about the description of van and reposting my comment.
    Just remember now why I don't bother posting on here and instead just come on here to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭12 element


    One of them parked here this morning!
    I'd say its about the 5th time in the last 2 months that there has been some form of speed detection on this stretch of road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito



    And if you stop having sex, you'll never get AIDS, but where's the fun in that?

    Not having aids versus having a little bit of sex with an infected person is plenty fun for me thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    12 element wrote: »
    One of them parked here this morning!
    I'd say its about the 5th time in the last 2 months that there has been some form of speed detection on this stretch of road.


    my sister got knocked down by a speeding taxi there :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    Tigger wrote: »
    2 thats a gards speed trap you saw; the private gatso don't flash and have no markings they are very discrete

    so their job is not to deter speeding (you know, that crime that leads to death and destruction), but rather to let people continue speeding and hit them with fines and points at a later date

    road safety my big hairy arse :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Wasn't there some high moral announcement when they came out that they weren't to be used as cash cows, and would only be put on black spot known accident areas and high risk areas?

    Well, that lasted long. 2 cameras on the 120kph Ballincollig Bypass today in Cork, one facing east, one west on a lovely wide open Dual Carriageway. Fish in a barrel!

    can you describe what you saw.
    if you saw rubber strips across the road.. they count traffic.. THEY ARE NOT SPEED CAMS

    there were strips across both carriageways, and another one near the pub at the end of the dual carriageway, and there was another set on the outbound land of the south link (not the south ring)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    I think the private gatso's will flash and have garda and a safety message on them.

    What your seeing now is actually them in a testing phase


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kwalshe


    Absurdum wrote: »
    so their job is not to deter speeding (you know, that crime that leads to death and destruction), but rather to let people continue speeding and hit them with fines and points at a later date
    road safety my big hairy arse :rolleyes:
    Is it not better though to catch people speeding and let them get hit with fines, points and increased insurance premiums and thus possibly change their habits.
    Otherwise if you have advertised gatsos people just jam on when they see them.
    Its very simple, I dont see what people dont understand, dont go over the limit and you dont need to concern yourself with white van paranoia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    There was a Garda hiding behind lamppost with a speed camera on Sarsfield Quay in Dublin city centre this morning.

    As you across over the Liffey at Heuston Station going into the city centre, he was just before the next bridge (Rory O'Moore bridge).

    It was a nasty spot, because two lanes filter into one, and I think it's the start of the 30kph zone.
    So anyone who speeds up to filter into the left hand lane would've probably got caught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    pa990 wrote: »
    can you describe what you saw.
    if you saw rubber strips across the road.. they count traffic.. THEY ARE NOT SPEED CAMS

    Yes, I know what traffic counters look like. They're everywhere in Cork at the moment too. But these were camera vans.

    [EDIT]Jeez that sounds sarcastic, but it's not meant to be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    kwalshe wrote: »
    Is it not better though to catch people speeding and let them get hit with fines, points and increased insurance premiums and thus possibly change their habits.
    Otherwise if you have advertised gatsos people just jam on when they see them.
    Its very simple, I dont see what people dont understand, dont go over the limit and you dont need to concern yourself with white van paranoia

    You dont feel that speed limits in certain locations are not appropriate?

    You really believe that the speed limits are 100% correct across the entire country?

    That there is nowhere that the speed limit is stupidly low where a road can easily handle a higher speed limit?

    What about previous main roads along newly built motorways that were 100km/h for years without issue, what's the reason for them to be reduced to 80km/h ?

    I have no problem following speed limits that are suitable but across the entire country there are areas where the speed limits are much too low and areas where they are much too high and I'd prefer if common sense was thought to drivers so they know how to judge a speed suitable for the road rather than trying to police them by using gatso cameras.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    kwalshe wrote: »
    Is it not better though to catch people speeding and let them get hit with fines, points and increased insurance premiums and thus possibly change their habits.
    Otherwise if you have advertised gatsos people just jam on when they see them.
    Its very simple, I dont see what people dont understand, dont go over the limit and you dont need to concern yourself with white van paranoia

    I dont think people are disputing speed detectors being put in places where they could reduce deaths i.e. a R road in Donegal at 3 on a saturday night may save life's (sorry Donegal people but i had to use something as an example)

    Putting one on a motorway and catching and fining people for doing 122kph in a 120kph is nothing more than a money making exercise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    draffodx wrote: »
    I think the private gatso's will flash and have garda and a safety message on them.

    What your seeing now is actually them in a testing phase

    i hope they flash but i've seen one under a bridge and stood on the bridge watching people go past and its not flashing and some of them are definatly speeding

    its under the n17 -n4 flyover at charlestown in mayo i'll video it if i get a chance


    but they better not start caausing people to slam on; from what i've read there will be signs up like there were on the m50 or like up in donegaal that say "speed cameras in operation" and they will or will not be aroubnd on any particular day

    if they are not garda they can't say garda there are a goodfew garda vans but the private ones are different


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    Tigger wrote: »
    if they are not garda they can't say garda there are a goodfew garda vans but the private ones are different

    and if you happen to park behind one, you aren't obstructing a Garda :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    The amount of them is crazy!!


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