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WoTLK Midnite Sales in Ireland?

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    #32
    pedro ferio-vti
    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭pedro ferio-vti


    So will Tescos down in Dublin be stocking this at midnight? I doubt it, so looks like if you wanna play you either have to go to Cork or Belfast? I just want the standard edition :s


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    #33
    Psycopat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Psycopat


    cant you buy it online on the blizzard website when its released? Im pretty sure you'll just be able to upgrade your account with a credit card.


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    #34
    Dr_Teeth
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    I was in Game on Dawson street today and noticed they were doing a midnight opening for Gears of War 2. I asked about one for WOTLK and the guy I talked to said "Probably, we'll know on Monday".


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    #35
    WellyJ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Psycopat wrote: »
    cant you buy it online on the blizzard website when its released? Im pretty sure you'll just be able to upgrade your account with a credit card.

    This only came in for TBC a few months after launch,

    Blizzard prefer to see actual boxes being bought from the shelves, then when the initial rush drops down, they offer the "Upgrade Online" feature to squeeze the last few subs out of pepople.


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    #36
    Duchovny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Duchovny


    Even if you could buy the upgrade game don't forget you would have still to download about 5GB of data to ur pc, their servers wouldn't be able to manage that.

    I know the OFFgames website sells the expansion but i didnt read how you actualy get the data.


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    #37
    copeyhagen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    pedro ferio-vti wrote: »
    So will Tescos down in Dublin be stocking this at midnight? I doubt it, so looks like if you wanna play you either have to go to Cork or Belfast? I just want the standard edition :s

    ill ask my mate today and see what the craic is


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    #38
    TheDoc
    Registered Users Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    You have to also think when will servers be up and running smoothly, i can defo see it being lagfest etc on release...i personally will be away that weekend , but have the monday off so ill get stuck in then :)

    Its not going to sell out anywhere it will be plenty available, the so called " lack of supply" is a worse rumour then this so called recession


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    #39
    ven0m
    Registered Users Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    Dr_Teeth wrote: »
    I was in Game on Dawson street today and noticed they were doing a midnight opening for Gears of War 2. I asked about one for WOTLK and the guy I talked to said "Probably, we'll know on Monday".

    I asked Game in SQuiffy Valley yesterday about a midnite opening for WoTLK cos they too had the midnite opening for gears of war up & the manager there told me a flat 'no', & also told me he had no price for the standard pack let alone the collectors edition & wouldn't until they received their shipment in on Monday coming.


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    #40
    WellyJ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Duchovny wrote: »
    Even if you could buy the upgrade game don't forget you would have still to download about 5GB of data to ur pc, their servers wouldn't be able to manage that.

    I know the OFFgames website sells the expansion but i didnt read how you actualy get the data.

    The standard dodgy places will have the dvd to download well in advance,

    And in fact it's hard to argue that there is anything wrong with that in this case, seeing as it is useless without purchasing a key,

    I had TBC installed 3 days before launch last year and was just waiting to input my key on launch day so i didnt have to bother installing that morning.

    Offgamers sells keys, they do not sell the "data", it's up to you to get it yourself.


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    #41
    [Deleted User]
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    WellyJ wrote: »
    The standard dodgy places will have the dvd to download well in advance,

    I had TBC installed 3 days before launch last year and was just waiting to input my key on launch day so i didnt have to bother installing that morning.

    Offgamers sells keys, they do not sell the "data", it's up to you to get it yourself.

    So would you recommend this as a possible way of getting the game at midnight?
    Or would there be a chance that you'd end up having to go and buy the game itself the next morning?


    Also, how important do you guys think it will be to pre-order?


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    #42
    Dustaz
    Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    [DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »
    Its not going to sell out anywhere it will be plenty available, the so called " lack of supply" is a worse rumour then this so called recession

    250,000 people on the dole think the fact you have a notion about anything is a rumour.


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    #43
    Anti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    just booked next thurs and friday off work. Gonna ring around all the games shops in dublin tomorrow and find a definate answer, may actually wait till monday to try it aswell.


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    #44
    copeyhagen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    my mate is checkin this out for me tomoro in tesco so ill let yas know.

    if you can find a working download please post it up, then go onto offgamers and buy the key post 12, theres a good chance they will have them striaght up. im gonna ask on their customer support section


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    #45
    WellyJ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    So would you recommend this as a possible way of getting the game at midnight?
    Or would there be a chance that you'd end up having to go and buy the game itself the next morning?


    Also, how important do you guys think it will be to pre-order?

    TBH although I have used Offgamers a lot in the past and they are excellent for what they are,

    I am not leaving it to chance that they will get a lot of wotlk keys the night before launch.

    I really want a bricks and mortar option in Dublin city, I finish work at 10pm on the wednesday night so want to head straight to wherever there is a midnight opening, really hope somewhere does it.


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    #46
    Dustaz
    Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    i just rang Game on dawson st and as above, they said "yeh, probably, check back next week"


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    #47
    WellyJ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Dustaz wrote: »
    i just rang Game on dawson st and as above, they said "yeh, probably, check back next week"

    Unfortunately I have noticed in past dealings with GAME employees is that they just tell you what you want to hear, the guy probably has no clue and just says "probably yeh" to get you off the phone.

    Apologies to any GAME employees who actually do their job properly.


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    #48
    DapperGent
    Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    GAME totally went down the tubes when it was bought by EB when I was working there we just used to tell customers to fúck off.


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    #49
    Krieg
    Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    Only 1 confirmed store in the republic that are doing a midnite sale according to blizzard.
    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml

    HMV in cork


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    #50
    WellyJ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Krieg wrote: »
    Only 1 confirmed store in the republic that are doing a midnite sale according to blizzard.
    http://media.wow-europe.com/wrath/midnight-opening/en/index.xml

    HMV in cork

    Yeh we have been discussing that already in this thread ;)


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    #51
    ZygOte
    Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭ZygOte


    I think blizzard have gone about this all wrong ideally the game should be available for purchase a few days or a week before it goes live, giving people to by and install and actually be ready to play when WTLK goes live


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    #52
    Krieg
    Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    WellyJ wrote: »
    Yeh we have been discussing that already in this thread ;)

    Just posting the link ;)
    Edit: bah, sorry.
    Didn't realize the links was posted previous


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    #53
    DarthWraak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭DarthWraak


    ZygOte wrote: »
    I think blizzard have gone about this all wrong ideally the game should be available for purchase a few days or a week before it goes live, giving people to by and install and actually be ready to play when WTLK goes live

    yes, because hundreds of thousands of players logging on at the exact same time when wrath goes live would be a better idea


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    #54
    Ivan
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    DarthWraak wrote: »
    yes, because hundreds of thousands of players logging on at the exact same time when wrath goes live would be a better idea
    It's expected of every other MMO for it's launch, why shouldnt it be expected from the market leading MMO out there, with the biggest bankroll around, the largest conglomerate PC gaming corporation to ever exist and with the biggest infrastructure this side of the US educational system...?

    Besides, if you dont have thousands of people logging on at midnight, you have them at 9-11am the next day anyway... whats the difference?

    It's frustrating, it's inconvenient and it's something that is already possible. For the Burning Crusade, I used my beta client and just patched up to the most recent version and played from midnight. I'll probably do the same for Wrath, if I can get my hands on a CD-Key :p


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    #55
    TheDoc
    Registered Users Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Dustaz wrote: »
    250,000 people on the dole think the fact you have a notion about anything is a rumour.

    I'm getting pretty ****ing sick of your smart arse comments in anything i post tbh, if you have nothing constructive to say, stop trying to boost your post count.

    I'm not going to derail the thread on how "recessions" are fear mongering and caused by people stooping to the fear and stopping spending, I'm earning as much as ever and couldnt be finanically stabler....

    Go read a book and stop trying to be a smart arse...

    If you actually opened that head of yours, you would also realise, that leisure products and activities, are the very last thing to be effected in times of financial "crisis"


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    #56
    Ivan
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    [DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »
    I'm getting pretty ****ing sick of your smart arse comments in anything i post tbh, if you have nothing constructive to say, stop trying to boost your post count.

    I'm not going to derail the thread on how "recessions" are fear mongering and caused by people stooping to the fear and stopping spending, I'm earning as much as ever and couldnt be finanically stabler....

    Go read a book and stop trying to be a smart arse...

    If you actually opened that head of yours, you would also realise, that leisure products and activities, are the very last thing to be effected in times of financial "crisis"
    Watch the personal abuse. If you have a problem with a post, use the report feature. It is what it is there for.

    That goes for you too dustaz, although he does make a valid, if facetious, point.

    And yes, please dont derail this thread to politics or it'll get moved faster than you can say, "1 copy of Wrath of the Lich King, please".


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    #57
    Jim
    Registered Users Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    To the people worried about everyone trying to log on at the same time. I thought TBC launch day was going to be a nightmare. I got up early, got the game, installed it, registered my key, went through the Dark Portal and played all day.

    The only problem I had in that whole process was the 3 - 5 seconds of lag going from the Dark Portal to Outland. Blizzard seem to be quite good at these type of things.


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    #58
    Nehaxak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    In regards offgamers, they would normally purchase the European Wow directly from places in France and also usually have a plethora of games available to them before the time to give out the keys from same at midnight. They key you get from them is also usually an actual photo of the key from the box itself that they open to get it from for you.
    As for the actual download of the game data, they would also make that available at midnight.

    More or less the same as any other bricks and mortor shop selling the game.

    Myself I'll probably just get the missus to pick me up 2 copies of the game from gamestop that morning when she goes in to pick up her CE edition while I'm at work.
    If I wasn't working (holidays or whatever) I'd just get the keys at midnight from offgamers and download it from them also.

    I know they sell gold and such also but really, there's a lot of well known and respected companies that do an awful lot worse yet still people use their products and continue to purchase from them...So I don't see a problem at all really.

    It's just a damn shame that theres no official direct download option available.


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    #59
    Psycopat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Psycopat


    Correct me if im wrong but I assumed that the bulk of the data was downloaded in patch 3.0.2 (Echoes of Doom) and when the server does a soft reset the night WOTLK goes live people will be able to play almost instantly after they upgrade their accounts. So im not really sure people need to worry about "5GB of data to download" if they dont have a store bought dvd.


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    #60
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Ivan wrote: »
    It's expected of every other MMO for it's launch, why shouldnt it be expected from the market leading MMO out there, with the biggest bankroll around, the largest conglomerate PC gaming corporation to ever exist and with the biggest infrastructure this side of the US educational system...?

    Besides, if you dont have thousands of people logging on at midnight, you have them at 9-11am the next day anyway... whats the difference?

    It's frustrating, it's inconvenient and it's something that is already possible. For the Burning Crusade, I used my beta client and just patched up to the most recent version and played from midnight. I'll probably do the same for Wrath, if I can get my hands on a CD-Key :p

    There's a huge ****ing difference, people all over europe and the world will get the game at a different time on that day,
    lets take a few examples, some will get them at midnight launches in france, 1 hour after midnight launches here and in britain, some will get them in sweden with a 2 hour difference, some will wait till the morning, or some stage throughout the day on the 13th, South africans play on euro servers, so they will get them at a different time.

    You say all mmo launches are like this? No they're not WAR Wasn't onsale a week early so everyone got log in the second the servers went up, AOC wasnt on sale a week early so everyone could be online when the servers went up. Same for LOTRO, same for EQ and EQ2, COH and COV, Eve and every other games. Games have a release date that allow people who buy them play the game immediately.

    Staggering the whole thing would allow it to go smother, because I assume it won't be smooth.

    get a clue.


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    #61
    Ivan
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    mayordenis wrote: »
    There's a huge ****ing difference, people all over europe and the world will get the game at a different time on that day,
    lets take a few examples, some will get them at midnight launches in france, 1 hour after midnight launches here and in britain, some will get them in sweden with a 2 hour difference, some will wait till the morning, or some stage throughout the day on the 13th, South africans play on euro servers, so they will get them at a different time.

    You say all mmo launches are like this? No they're not WAR Wasn't onsale a week early so everyone got log in the second the servers went up, AOC wasnt on sale a week early so everyone could be online when the servers went up. Same for LOTRO, same for EQ and EQ2, COH and COV, Eve and every other games. Games have a release date that allow people who buy them play the game immediately.

    Staggering the whole thing would allow it to go smother, because I assume it won't be smooth.

    get a clue.


    A) I was directing my comments at DarthWraak's comment's. Hence the quote.

    Specifically
    DarthWraak wrote: »
    yes, because hundreds of thousands of players logging on at the exact same time when wrath goes live would be a better idea

    Which is something every MMO launch has to deal with these days and this expansion and the Burning Crusade expansion, for which I was a GM for the launch day, months beforehand and many months afterwords for, is no different.

    B) The majority of upgraded log-ins for TBC and presumely will be similar for Wrath, was between 9am and 11 pm GMT the morning of launch and a similar number again at 7pm to 9pm that evening. Again, this is coming from a guy who was a GM at the time.

    C) WAR had an early access log-in, AoC had an early access log-in, CoH had an early access log-in. Pretty much every MMO from now on will have an early access log-in. These events are designed to allow hardcore players to log-in the game early to stagger the playerbase and also give rise to the clients making their way onto torrents and other peer-to-peer channels all before launch. Warhammer, AoC and CoH all allowed pre-downloading of the client before launch. I realise this is an expansion, but that is no reason the client cannot be made available prior to launch. It is simply a matter of flicking a switch (metaphorically speaking) which allows people the access to the new content and as such, is even easier than a launch day. Again, coming from the largest games development mongoloid corporation in existence and coming from one of its ex-employees.

    D) I realise I am a Moderator on these forums, although perhaps you dont; but I deserve the same respect as any other poster here. With that in mind, if you speak to me or another poster in such a passive-aggressive tone again, you can be discussing Wrath launch on the WoW forums instead of here.

    E) Did I mention I used to be a Gamesmaster, for blizzard and stuff...


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