Accounting Technicians Students

~Trixiebelle~ · 15-05-2014 3:02pm

wilddarts wrote: »

I took your advice from yesterday and went back over PLC, Porters 5 Forces and 'the usual suspects', so I think I owe you a drink aswell. A lot happier than I was on Tuesday.

Yep! I'm alot happier than Tuesday too! I feel like I dodged a bullet with that paper big time and I think for my worst subject, it's possibly going to be my best result! Takes the sting off FA anyway and sure, if I had to pick one subject to repeat, it'd be FA.

Now it's Law and Ethics to start sweating about!

xLollyx · 15-05-2014 3:03pm

Don't think I did too badly today either, one or two parts of the questions threw me but hopefully not enough to make me fail it

Howjoe1 · 15-05-2014 11:15pm

Any views on Advance Taxation today?

I thought it was tricky in parts, but not too bad overall.

j@utis · 15-05-2014 11:30pm

I thought Adv.Tax was very reasonable today with very few hairy bits, I had an hour left to do the last question, went with questions 1,2,3,4,5. Q6 and Q7 were the hardest imho, I had 30mins left at the end, so I gave MCQ a go - got stuck at part2 straight away

Howjoe1 · 15-05-2014 11:56pm

1.2.3 and 4 and 6. Think I nailed the Mulitiple choice. 9, maybe 10 right.

angeldelight · 19-05-2014 1:45pm

What did people think of Taxation today? There were a few little bits in Q1 that threw me but at least in those types of Qs it's easy to pick up marks as you go. I messed up Q2, realised it and had to do half it again. I was delighted with payroll not being in section A and felt the multiple choice was better than previous years! Which is good as due to the Q2 debacle I had less than 20 minutes to do it

~Trixiebelle~ · 19-05-2014 1:58pm

angeldelight wrote: »

What did people think of Taxation today? There were a few little bits in Q1 that threw me but at least in those types of Qs it's easy to pick up marks as you go. I messed up Q2, realised it and had to do half it again. I was delighted with payroll not being in section A and felt the multiple choice was better than previous years! Which is good as due to the Q2 debacle I had less than 20 minutes to do it

It's hard for me to judge if I got enough to pass because I know I got things wrong! Thank god for the multiple choice!! I think that's my highest scoring question. IT was ok as was VAT but addbacks and theory I messed up abit. Can't wait to be finished now!!!

Sephiroth_dude · 19-05-2014 2:16pm

Found it tough going,messed up Q 2 and 3,was running out of time for Q 5 So didn't get to the tax/usc forms,hard to know how the multiple choice went tbh, Overall I'm not happy.

wilddarts · 19-05-2014 3:58pm

If I just pass today's tax I'll be happy (obviously). Think I did well in the income tax and case 1/2 adjusted profits, they'd be my favorites. With those and the vat and MCQ question (should have gotten over half the marks going) , I'd say I did enough to pass, fingers crossed. I avoided the tax deduction card and P60 like the plague. The theory question was my weakest i'd say.

Just Law and Ethics left, I'm goin on a bender Wednesday. :pac:

outeverynite · 19-05-2014 8:01pm

Law & Ethics on Wednesday....looking back at the compulsory questions and Money Laundering hasn't come up since Summer 11....it's only been a question once....perhaps this might come up on Wed!

wilddarts · 19-05-2014 8:20pm

outeverynite wrote: »

Law & Ethics on Wednesday....looking back at the compulsory questions and Money Laundering hasn't come up since Summer 11....it's only been a question once....perhaps this might come up on Wed!

I went through the past papers since 2010 and singled out the most commonly asked areas and came up with a plan to go back over chapters 3, 6, 7, 9, 11 to 14. Directors and Finance seem to be nearly guaranteed. A decent knowledge of 15, 16 and 17 should get good marks for the compulsory question. Trying to remember past cases and their years is a pain in the hole.

outeverynite · 19-05-2014 8:57pm

Nice one...thanks....will look over them chapters tonight and tomorrow!

hawaii501 · 20-05-2014 1:20am

How did people find MA today, made a mess of Q3 but think I did enough to scrape a pass as was unsure of Q6 part (c) and (d) Hopefully I'll just be repeating AFA(touch wood) as I thought the questions were very different to past papers.

j@utis · 20-05-2014 2:11am

MA: Very very very long winded questions with many parts, each of them took me 30mins+ to complete. I had 5mins max left at the end of the exam to look back through the paper...
I thought Q1 and Q3 were the easiest two on the paper. I made a mess out of Q2. It said in the notes budgeted fixed prod. o/h 500,000E based 80,000un per annum. So I went on and calculated OAR, divided 500,000/12 to get monthly fixed o/h, took the actual production in units to calculate actual o/h absorbed to figure out Under/Over absorption and then this third note threw me of course: it said "actual fixed prod. o/h was 45000E per month". So I didn't know which one to use, made two different calculations at the end... Then of course my net profits couldn't be reconciled to different closing inventory values but I had spent 45mins on that Q already, so I just left it there.
Q6 was exactly like the Q in one of the Sample papers. I remembered looking at it on Sunday and thinking to myself "this is easy" and but during the exam I wasn't able to do part d)... easy my ar$e... minus 5 marks.
I didn't do theory Q, which was it Q4 or Q5? I did the non-theory one. anyways I can't remember what it was about

oh, just clicked here: FIFO LIFO AVCO - yeah, this was fine, just struggled a bit with the theory bit (hate all those advantages disadvantages...).
I'm sure I'll score well in this one. but I wouldn't mind to repeat it either - it was my favorite subject this year. AFA - is a different story, even thought of it makes me shiver...

hawaii501 · 20-05-2014 9:34am

Did Q1 and Q5 relatively quick but just didn't know what to do at all on Q3(should have studied more) Think I did ok on Q2 and ok on Q6 for at least half marks so hopefully I did enough although if I've to repeat I'll definitely pass it l.
I don't think anyone was happy with AFA, could be a lot of repeats.
Think Tax went ok too, should have did enough to pass anyway

angeldelight · 20-05-2014 3:38pm

Just a question for those of you in second year - how are the exam results for ATI presented? Do you get a percentage mark for each subject and then an overall pass/merit whatever for the year?

j@utis · 20-05-2014 4:42pm

yes, you get % for each subject and it will say merit, distinction etc somewhere there too. Online it shows your place among all the students in that year. I was #73 last year. I'd love to see how I've scored at each question in every subject but they don't provide this info even though they have it.

wilddarts · 21-05-2014 1:54pm

outeverynite wrote: »

Law & Ethics on Wednesday....looking back at the compulsory questions and Money Laundering hasn't come up since Summer 11....it's only been a question once....perhaps this might come up on Wed!

Have you got this weeks lotto numbers aswell by any chance????????

outeverynite · 21-05-2014 6:17pm

I'll look in the crystal ball and see what appears....ha, ha, ha! :-)

Lets say I was a happy bunny today with the compulsory question when I opened the paper...the rest well we'll have to see how it goes!!!!!!

Howjoe1 · 21-05-2014 11:36pm

hawaii501 wrote: »

How did people find MA today, made a mess of Q3 but think I did enough to scrape a pass as was unsure of Q6 part (c) and (d) Hopefully I'll just be repeating AFA(touch wood) as I thought the questions were very different to past papers.

I made loads of mistakes due to time pressure The detail of the questions were set for a 3 hr 30 min exam in my opinion. I recognised some mistakes I made but had no time to go back over. Whilst we are doing year 2 for Tax And FA, the examiner for MA seems to take no account of this being a new subject for students.

j@utis · 22-05-2014 1:33pm

I think the MA syllabus is much smaller than Tax or FA. and it's much more interesting than the other two because it's something new. but I agree on the time pressure during exam. Questions were really long and required throughout thinking and loads and loads of writing. Even the easiest questions took me 30mins each because it's easy to make a stupid mistake and when you pay extra attention it really slows you down.

jasminej4 · 30-06-2014 7:52pm

Hi everyone,

have year 1 exams coming up in August. Im absolutely terrified to be honest and I dont know where to start..... Any tips?

Also I hate touchpoint.... never seems to load ot takes forever.

Finally, where do I get past papers from?? Sorry to sound completely stupid but many thanks in advance...

wilddarts · 30-06-2014 10:09pm

jasminej4 wrote: »

Hi everyone,

have year 1 exams coming up in August. Im absolutely terrified to be honest and I dont know where to start..... Any tips?

Also I hate touchpoint.... never seems to load ot takes forever.

Finally, where do I get past papers from?? Sorry to sound completely stupid but many thanks in advance...

You should be able to download past papers for all 4 subjects from the ATI website under the Students section, then click Study Materials, and Past Papers. This years May exams should be there aswell by now.

Try using a different browser for Touchpoint, Ive used Chrome and Firefox for it with no problems. In Touchpoint you can access Knowledge Point where you can view recordings of lectures and notes from the ATI lectures held in Dublin. I found these to be very helpful revision the week of the exams. There should also be recorded workshops for tax and FA.

As for tips, I basically spent every spare minute practicing questions from the past papers. Then unfortunately the FA exam was nothing like any other past paper given so it felt like a bit of a waste of time. But the other exams were similar in format to their past exams, so was happy enuff with them.

I printed all past papers from 2010 onwards and went through what type of questions get asked most often, and most likely to be asked in May rather than August. Its a bit of a gamble but I think it worked out pretty well for me. I'll know next Monday if it paid off. Although I did try to cover all areas while revising but spent more time on the areas I thought would likely turn up.

Timing is important in the exam. You have an average of 1.8 minutes per mark. So theres no point spending half an hour wrecking your head over a 10 mark question. I wasnt stuck for time but I could see how easy I could get caught.

Other than that you should just relax before the exam, you'll be surprised how much info is in your head when the questions are in front of you.

Best of luck, hopefully I wont be resitting in August.

jasminej4 · 30-06-2014 11:48pm

Wilddarts.... thank you so much for that.

Im sure you wont have to repeat any exams.

Thanks again and best of luck with results Monday.

Sephiroth_dude · 01-07-2014 9:38pm

Not looking forward to Monday one bit.

wilddarts · 02-07-2014 11:50am

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Not looking forward to Monday one bit.

I'd rather know right now, the waiting is the worst.

Sephiroth_dude · 02-07-2014 4:49pm

wilddarts wrote: »

I'd rather know right now, the waiting is the worst.

I'm screwed if I have to repeat

Young Blood · 04-07-2014 6:15am

Can anyone tell me the difference between an accounting technician and an accountant? Is the work different and what are the job opportunities like for each?

Thanks

Emma1980 · 04-07-2014 10:03am

I know the results aren't out til Monday but is anyone getting an error message when they click the link on the email from ATI for the results?
It worked fine yesterday, message came up saying the results available on Monday but today when i click on it (i was trying to store the page on my phone for quick access!) it comes up saying:

EXAMINATION RESULTS
One of your Registration Number, Examination Number or Date of Birth entries didn’t match, please check these details and re-enter

(or)

There are no exam results available for you in this session.

I've triple checked my registration number and exam number and i defo have them correct?!

GSBellew · 05-07-2014 12:15am

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Not looking forward to Monday one bit.

I am & I'm not, terrified of the results but sick of waiting for them if that makes any sense?

Just want to know if I can relax for a few weeks before starting year 2 or if I need to prepare for repeats in August.

j@utis · 07-07-2014 11:48am

so results are out! I've done quite well even surprised myself with AFA mark

2nd year: AFA 73%, ATX 83%, IAS 96% (what's that weighted mark about?), MA 81%, overall - distinction

Howjoe1 · 07-07-2014 3:38pm

j@utis wrote: »

so results are out! I've done quite well even surprised myself with AFA mark
2nd year: AFA 73%, ATX 83%, IAS 96% (what's that weighted mark about?), MA 81%, overall - distinction

A clever clogs like you should be able to work out what a "weighted mark" is

only joking, well done. Happy with my results overall, maybe hoped for slightly better mark in AFA.

ACCA? not sure I have the stamina or will to do it.

ps if 70% is the baseline pass mark for IAS and 50% the pass mark for other subjects, then the value of the 3 harder subjects to the overall score should not be diminished by rating % v % on all subjects the same(or something along these lines).

GSBellew · 07-07-2014 11:24pm

Very happy with my results, much better than I expected.

No repeats to do and a result of distinction :-)

Happy to be able to relax slightly for a while.

Hope everyone else did ok.

wilddarts · 08-07-2014 1:14pm

Happy enough here aswell, got an overall distinction. I thought there was a post here about your results showing where you came overall out of all who sat the exams? I can't see anything like that on the results site or the results that came in the post. Anyone else get anything about it?

Howjoe1 · 08-07-2014 2:13pm

wilddarts wrote: »

Happy enough here aswell, got an overall distinction. I thought there was a post here about your results showing where you came overall out of all who sat the exams? I can't see anything like that on the results site or the results that came in the post. Anyone else get anything about it?

I think they have to wait for any appeals etc before putting up final places.

hawaii501 · 08-07-2014 3:36pm

Expected to fail AFA as I did not put much time into it and had a disaster of a day. but failed IAS, got 65 was disgusted that I've to repeat 2 now

j@utis · 08-07-2014 3:55pm

log into your "touchpoint" on ATI website. placings are there already. #64

Howjoe1 · 08-07-2014 4:07pm

j@utis wrote: »

log into your "touchpoint" on ATI website. placings are there already. #64

Well done. It's a pity they don't show a placing for each subject. or do they?

~Trixiebelle~ · 09-07-2014 9:46pm

Glad to see the majority passed year one. Well done all!

I was delighted with receiving an overall distinction and feel blessed to place in the top 100 as I really felt I had done terrible, especially in the FA exam! I aim to be better prepared for year 2 and I wont start my study in April this time around!!:D Famous last words!!

Sarah33 · 22-07-2014 11:42am

I am going into 2nd year in September. I am thinking about doing the practical as an external student. I am fairly confident on Sage and excel. I don't want to spend 1.5 hours each week in classtime doing stuff I already know how to do when I could just practice it at home myself. Just wondering does anyone have any experience of the practical element as a correspondence student - is it easy to follow etc?

wilddarts · 10-09-2014 2:07pm

Anyone else going on to Yr 2(or starting Yr1) through the ATI's Online Programme?

dyanne · 10-09-2014 11:23pm

Sarah33 wrote: »

I am going into 2nd year in September. I am thinking about doing the practical as an external student. I am fairly confident on Sage and excel. I don't want to spend 1.5 hours each week in classtime doing stuff I already know how to do when I could just practice it at home myself. Just wondering does anyone have any experience of the practical element as a correspondence student - is it easy to follow etc?

Hi - I've just finished both years as an online student - for 2014, IAS was structured in a way that a tutorial was posted showing a particular task/element and you had to watch, then repeat on your own. In my opinion, this made it a lot more arduous and time consuming than if you were to do it in a class room, It appeared that many fellow online students failed their first attempt - although I'm sure they have tweaked the format as this year would have been a learning curve being the first.

Good luck

wilddarts · 11-09-2014 10:56am

dyanne wrote: »

Hi - I've just finished both years as an online student - for 2014, IAS was structured in a way that a tutorial was posted showing a particular task/element and you had to watch, then repeat on your own. In my opinion, this made it a lot more arduous and time consuming than if you were to do it in a class room, It appeared that many fellow online students failed their first attempt - although I'm sure they have tweaked the format as this year would have been a learning curve being the first.

Good luck

Thanks for that, IAS is the area i know the least about so hopefully its a bit better this year.

cmat · 24-09-2014 6:32pm

congrats all! just starting pity me! couple Q's
IAT yr 1: got last years books from a friend but will buy current tax book but can i study from home myself and pay fees for reg, exam, yearly sub. im ringing in the morning and dont want to be caught buying all 4 books when there are no changes only in tax! where do i attend exams in Cork

dyanne · 29-09-2014 3:45pm

As far as I'm aware, there is a correspondence option aswell as distance/online - you should call them and find out what will work best for you, just let them know that you have the books and so won't be needing them all.

GSBellew · 01-10-2014 12:10am

dyanne wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, there is a correspondence option aswell as distance/online - you should call them and find out what will work best for you, just let them know that you have the books and so won't be needing them all.

There is a correspondence option with McKeon Murray that is how I did first year last year.

They email you assignments and pre exams but little else beyond, personally I think the extra for the online option is worth it. It certainly is possible though and I guess it depends on how you learn best.

I found the knowledge point tutorials a great help, which is why I'm thinking the online will be better.

yosser hughes · 01-10-2014 6:14pm

cmat wrote: »

congrats all! just starting pity me! couple Q's
IAT yr 1: got last years books from a friend but will buy current tax book but can i study from home myself and pay fees for reg, exam, yearly sub. im ringing in the morning and dont want to be caught buying all 4 books when there are no changes only in tax! where do i attend exams in Cork

I am asking the same question as you as it hasn't been answered. Is there any way around registering for a college/online/distance or otherwise? I just want to do the exam and I am happy and would prefer to study this on my own. My partner is already qualified so will be a big help.
I just want to register for exam and pay annual sub but do not want to pay a college/course provider for something I will not use.
The IATI just kept saying it is policy when I spoke to them, but if I just register for the exam, what's to stop me doing it?

wilddarts · 01-10-2014 6:33pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

I am asking the same question as you as it hasn't been answered. Is there any way around registering for a college/online/distance or otherwise? I just want to do the exam and I am happy and would prefer to study this on my own. My partner is already qualified so will be a big help.
I just want to register for exam and pay annual sub but do not want to pay a college/course provider for something I will not use.
The IATI just kept saying it is policy when I spoke to them, but if I just register for the exam, what's to stop me doing it?

Can you register for just the exams though?
I don't know what their policy is in regards to only sitting their exams, I registered online for their online course for yr 2 and can't remember seeing any option for just taking their exams and not taking their lectures. Choosing where you want to sit the exams was part of the registration process but I had to select the subjects I wanted to do first. It seemed to be done as a package thing really, then got an email to say when the text books will be delivered.

I do remember having to show a letter from ATI and my ID to get into the exam hall for 1st yr exams. If theres not a way to book just exams and they don't send you the letter then I can't see how you can sit the exam.

yosser hughes · 01-10-2014 6:41pm

wilddarts wrote: »

Can you register for just the exams though?
I don't know what their policy is in regards to only sitting their exams, I registered online for their online course for yr 2 and can't remember seeing any option for just taking their exams and not taking their lectures. Choosing where you want to sit the exams was part of the registration process but I had to select the subjects I wanted to do first. It seemed to be done as a package thing really, then got an email to say when the text books will be delivered.

I do remember having to show a letter from ATI and my ID to get into the exam hall for 1st yr exams. If theres not a way to book just exams and they don't send you the letter then I can't see how you can sit the exam.

You register to do the exams through the IATI NOT the college/course provider. The ATI not the college/course provider send you the exam info.

Sephiroth_dude · 01-10-2014 6:43pm

Best of luck with yr 2 Ladies and gents, Unfortunately my I didn't get into year 2

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