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Dublin Bus - taking notes for group fares

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  • #52
    miller50841
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Show me where that's law.

    Obviously the bus can't have a mind of it's own and run you over or whatever if not your fault and then the company turn around and say we are not responsible.


  • #53
    Fred Swanson
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  • #54
    miller50841
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    That doesn't count for on a vehicle.
    Yes it is for a property such as a depot.

    The company bye laws are what goes on the bus they are on the dublinbus.ie


  • #55
    Fred Swanson
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  • #56
    cdebru
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Duty of care doesn't make you responsible for minding someones kids while they toddle of to the shop.Other wise DB would be a giant child minding service.


  • #57
    No Pants
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    As fares continue to rise, DB should really do something about the use of notes on their buses. Or really push the Leap card. Two adults from Swords to the City Centre already costs north of €5. Bringing a bunch of kids and being expected to bring change to pay for them all is just daft.


  • #58
    LXFlyer
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    No Pants wrote: »
    As fares continue to rise, DB should really do something about the use of notes on their buses. Or really push the Leap card. Two adults from Swords to the City Centre already costs north of €5. Bringing a bunch of kids and being expected to bring change to pay for them all is just daft.

    That's where the family ticket comes in:
    http://dublinbus.ie/en/Fares--Tickets/Tickets/Family-Tickets/


  • #59
    No Pants
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    lxflyer wrote: »
    That's where the family ticket comes in:
    http://dublinbus.ie/en/Fares--Tickets/Tickets/Family-Tickets/
    Can those be bought with a leap card?


  • #60
    Fred Swanson
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  • #61
    cdebru
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    and someone gets on the bus with a freshly printed 50 euro note they just printed off pops it into the box and converts it into a 48:35 change ticket. Good business.


  • #62
    Fred Swanson
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  • #63
    No Pants
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    cdebru wrote: »
    and someone gets on the bus with a freshly printed 50 euro note they just printed off pops it into the box and converts it into a 48:35 change ticket. Good business.
    They'd still have to travel into O'Connell Street to redeem it. Not seeing a problem.


  • #64
    LXFlyer
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    No Pants wrote: »
    Can those be bought with a leap card?

    Not at present - they can be purchased at any Dublin Bus ticket agent.


  • #65
    cdebru
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    No Pants wrote: »
    They'd still have to travel into O'Connell Street to redeem it. Not seeing a problem.

    they get 48.35 for a forged note? I can see a problem.


  • #66
    Fred Swanson
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  • #67
    bk
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    That sounds like a lot of expensive new infrastructure and administration, when we should in fact be moving away from cash.

    I'd prefer if they spent the money on enabling contactless debit cards like they have in the UK.


  • #68
    Fred Swanson
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  • #69
    Carawaystick
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    Can you still pay with notes in Limerick and Galway?
    you still get change in Galway, and there's a flat 1.70 fare


  • #70
    No Pants
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    bk wrote: »
    That sounds like a lot of expensive new infrastructure and administration, when we should in fact be moving away from cash.

    I'd prefer if they spent the money on enabling contactless debit cards like they have in the UK.
    Or promote the Leap card more and make sure that it's easy to use it to buy multiple tickets on buses, trains, DART and Luas.


  • #71
    Infini
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    I'll be blunt here mate your wife shouldve had change he cant take the notes because thats the way the system works and its not his fault as he has his own timetable to stick to and cant wait for someone to get change they have to have it there or then or they cant get on.

    Next time just have change or buy tickets in advance or even just stick with the train.


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  • #72
    oppenheimer1
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    The driver could have obliged. I've seen drivers stuff notes into the fair box before for groups getting on.


  • #73
    cdebru
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    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    The driver could have obliged. I've seen drivers stuff notes into the fair box before for groups getting on.
    shouldn't do they go straight into a coin counting machines which rips them to shreds and they block the machine.


  • #74
    thunderdog
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    A slight aside but I've often wondered why Dublin bus don't have some coin counting system like the baskets at the toll bridge? It's just up to the driver to visually inspect if you've in the correct fair. Throw in a Hugo bunch of coppers and it makes it pretty much impossible for the driver to count. Perhaps it would be too expensive to install an automatic coin counting machine


  • #75
    Victor
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    No Pants wrote: »
    Can those be bought with a leap card?
    Any number of people can travel on a bus with one Leap Card, provided they have enough credit.


  • #76
    cdebru
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    thunderdog wrote: »
    A slight aside but I've often wondered why Dublin bus don't have some coin counting system like the baskets at the toll bridge? It's just up to the driver to visually inspect if you've in the correct fair. Throw in a Hugo bunch of coppers and it makes it pretty much impossible for the driver to count. Perhaps it would be too expensive to install an automatic coin counting machine

    they are big, unreliable and slow and of course expensive to install and maintain.


  • #77
    oppenheimer1
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    cdebru wrote: »
    shouldn't do they go straight into a coin counting machines which rips them to shreds and they block the machine.

    I don't think its a coin counting machine, just a cash box. I would have thought the fares would be counted by machine back a the depot as it would take too long for an on board machine to process coins.


  • #78
    markpb
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    cdebru wrote: »
    they are big, unreliable and slow and of course expensive to install and maintain.

    I can't speak about the installation or running costs but other bus companies have them so clearly the size and speed isn't an issue unless DB have unusually awkward buses (not something I'd rule out considering some of the daft design decisions taken in the past - buses where the front compartment lights have to be off so the driver can see at night, buses where the water rained down on the doorway, buses where the condensation collected at people's elbows, buses with really narrow doors, the list is endless).

    That said, I doubt there'd be much RoI for them, they'd be better off spending the money buying proper ticket machines.


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