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*Everything HPAT and Medicine 2012*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 kevhall9


    finality wrote: »
    I think I'm going to do electronic engineering in Trinity instead of medicine. Enjoy my place, whoever gets it! :P

    It's important that people do what they like, and not just do medicine because they get the points.

    Btw, I wish there was more people like you:) so don't listen to me because I have an ulterior motive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 kevhall9


    Can anyone explain how they decide who goes on the 5 year course at nuig?

    As I understand it, If you did two science subjects at Leaving cert level, then you can do the 5-year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


    finality wrote: »
    I think I'm going to do electronic engineering in Trinity instead of medicine. Enjoy my place, whoever gets it! :P

    I used to have faith in you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭pinkballetdance


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    Can anyone explain how they decide who goes on the 5 year course at nuig?

    As I understand it, If you did two science subjects at Leaving cert level, then you can do the 5-year.

    Not always, and that's not the only way, basically anyone who's done one or more years of another course can, and so they progress even if they haven't got the sciences at leaving cert level.

    You're gauranteed a place if you've got 3 or more sciences (ie chem, bio, phys or ag sci) then some people who did well in two sciences are automatically given a place and then others are placed in premed and ask to transfer up. I think, but I'm not certain that you must have biology and another science if you've only got two, I could be wrong though!

    If you're placed in 1st Med and you'd rather be in premed you can ask to transfer. Most people are allowed to change if they explain why they're choosing either choice! :)

    Hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Just quoting their stats under graphs

    2012 143. 29th centile
    181 83 rd centile

    2011. 143 26 th centile
    181 83 rd centile

    2010. 139 29 th centile
    181. 91 st centile

    So from that overall no change this year in h pat results In the higher percentiles which are the only ones that will make an impact on points

    Those percentile figures can be a bit misleading.. just because 181 gets you 83rd percentile both years doesn't mean the results match for the whole 170-200 range.. There is definitely a drop overall.

    They are purposely manipulating the data in the question weightings to get those figures to match up..

    'Surprisingly' enough, they wouldn't give me the data from which they made the graphs! :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭pinkballetdance


    hollingr wrote: »

    'Surprisingly' enough, they wouldn't give me the data from which they made the grapsh! :p

    It drives me insane how little HPAT Ireland will release about the process!!! >:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Aftermanydays


    It drives me insane how little HPAT Ireland will release about the process!!! >:(

    If you look at the bar charts and actually try to count the number of people who got each score, it doesn't tally with the percentile data at all. Very suspicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Here's my tally from the graphs:

    ........................................2011..........2012
    people in 174-184 range:.......370............383
    people in 184-194 range:.......242............214
    people in 194-204 range:.......119............139
    people in 204-214 range:.......58...............46
    people with 214+:................30...............36

    The bar graphs are pretty dubious and hard to work from though. No point speculating too much, pretty certain these graphs are set up each year slightly differently to make them hard to compare year on year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭pinkballetdance


    If you look at the bar charts and actually try to count the number of people who got each score, it doesn't tally with the percentile data at all. Very suspicious.

    I'm not suprised sure even in my HPAT results last year the 3 figures added up to a different number than the total and when I rang and asked about it they told me that the figures for the individual sections are rounded and they don't count... Sure what's the point on even putting them there!??!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 rathman


    I dont really understand about the whole science course switch over to medicine. Is it that you do a science course for one year and then request to change to medicine? Is there places allocated for this or do you have to repeat the whole CAO-HPAT ordeal again:confused: And how likely is it to get a place this way? Thanks :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 boyne61


    Several Leaving Certs will not get bonus points for hons maths as it will not be in their 6 best counting scores. This will lower the increase in points for med in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    rathman wrote: »
    I dont really understand about the whole science course switch over to medicine. Is it that you do a science course for one year and then request to change to medicine? Is there places allocated for this or do you have to repeat the whole CAO-HPAT ordeal again:confused: And how likely is it to get a place this way? Thanks :cool:

    You would be re-applying through the CAO just like everyone else - so you have the same chance as anyone else applying for medicine that year. There is no "special" switch over, but by choosing certain courses you will be allowed to skip pre-med and go straight into 1st year med.


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    finality wrote: »
    I think I'm going to do electronic engineering in Trinity instead of medicine. Enjoy my place, whoever gets it! :P

    Taking one for the lads ;)

    We need more people like you in this society of wannabe doctors :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 kevhall9


    Did anyone else give up school after hpat results? I'm studying non-stop for the last two weeks :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    Anyone knows the fees for each college for 1st year repeaters?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 tweetybird4848


    spasmaster wrote: »
    Anyone knows the fees for each college for 1st year repeaters?

    About 8 or 9 thousand I think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    kevhall9 wrote: »
    Did anyone else give up school after hpat results? I'm studying non-stop for the last two weeks :P

    Don't burn out my friend ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 surfaholic


    Just out of curiosity, is anyone getting the hpat rechecked?

    Also, has anyone ever heard of someone getting marked up from a recheck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    surfaholic wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, is anyone getting the hpat rechecked?

    Also, has anyone ever heard of someone getting marked up from a recheck?

    I can't see how a recheck would make a difference. Rechecks can result in a higher grade in the leaving cert as the papers are marked by humans, and humans can make mistakes. The hpat is just fed into a computer, I believe, and computers don't make mistakes. :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 surfaholic


    finality wrote: »
    I can't see how a recheck would make a difference. Rechecks can result in a higher grade in the leaving cert as the papers are marked by humans, and humans can make mistakes. The hpat is just fed into a computer, I believe, and computers don't make mistakes. :P

    Yep, I'm aware of all that. I was just wondering if there were any exceptions to the case... :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Helloxoxo


    boyne61 wrote: »
    Several Leaving Certs will not get bonus points for hons maths as it will not be in their 6 best counting scores. This will lower the increase in points for med in 2012.

    You can count it so long as with the extra 25 points maths is in your top 6, so anyone with a B3 up will be counting it


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 tweetybird4848


    Could someone tell me if there is any conceivable way that the points would shoot up so much that Galway would go up by 20? I'm driving myself mad here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    Could someone tell me if there is any conceivable way that the points would shoot up so much that Galway would go up by 20? I'm driving myself mad here!

    Nope 8 at max in my opinion, I bet you a pint ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    Could someone tell me if there is any conceivable way that the points would shoot up so much that Galway would go up by 20? I'm driving myself mad here!

    Feel the same. Going up by 20, probably not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    whats the deal with student accomadation in galway anyway, on campus or in the town. easy to find somewhere in a month?


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    NoHarm1994 wrote: »
    Nope 8 at max in my opinion, I bet you a pint ;)

    I really hope you're right - i'm going for trinity, and would bet my right arm that I will get 747 points!


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭NoHarm1994


    spasmaster wrote: »
    whats the deal with student accomadation in galway anyway, on campus or in the town. easy to find somewhere in a month?

    I actually haven't a clue but I hear it is easy enough to get accommodation ther, and from what I have heard they are all within 10 - 15 Min walk anyway :) If I get Galway next year I think that I will defer it anyway and try to earn some money to pay my way when I go the year after :)
    Paralysis wrote: »
    I really hope you're right - i'm going for trinity, and would bet my right arm that I will get 747 points!

    Well done :)
    I strongly believe that Trinity will be at 747 next year I don't know why? just a hunch I have :P
    Some of us however will have to make due with Galway anyway ;) haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    I'll quite happily take any bets from people that want to speculate on the points going up by more than 10, for medicine in any of the colleges on CAO:

    points going up by more than 10: 2/1 odds
    points going up by more than 15: 5/1 odds
    points going up by more than 20: 25/1 odds
    points going up by more than 25: 1000000000000000000000/1 odds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭kitty9


    i hope none of ye get in :pac::pac:

    there! i said it


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    kitty9 wrote: »
    i hope none of ye get in :pac::pac:

    there! i said it

    Let's leave it there as eternal proof of how childish/jealous/bitter you are.
    Don't bother posting in this thread again.

    kitty9 infracted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭kitty9


    lol i was joking hence the PACMAN face :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Stalin and rugby


    kitty9 wrote: »
    lol i was joking hence the PACMAN face :P

    Don't ever joke about Spurios. He's a very important person who spends his time moderating boards, helping to keep us safe against jokes like yours instead of enjoying the weather with some mates. He also happens to be extremely handsome, intelligent, and overall a clearly superior human being. I've heard factual rumors that all the ladies are in love with him too.

    All hail Spurios


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


    Don't ever joke about Spurios. He's a very important person who spends his time moderating boards, helping to keep us safe against jokes like yours instead of enjoying the weather with some mates. He also happens to be extremely handsome, intelligent, and overall a clearly superior human being. I've heard factual rumors that all the ladies are in love with him too.

    All hail Spurios

    His description really matches mine.

    INCEPTION.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Better be on your best behaviour kitty, red cards are serious business. You might not even make it through garda vetting if you get into medicine with an infraction like that to your name..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Stalin and rugby


    hollingr wrote: »
    Better be on your best behaviour kitty, red cards are serious business. You might not even make it through garda vetting if you get into medicine with an infraction like that to your name..

    I'm so Jealous of you man, you're pretty much already in. No study no nothing just gotta wait until august....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    737 doesn't mean i'm in.. I only applied to RCSI/UCD/TCD :confused:

    I have an interview monday for mature entry and still have to do bio and chem for the l.c. Still about 12 chapters left to cover in biology before I even start revising/learning stuff off.. Going to be a tough few weeks!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Let's hope nobody in the last few posts is considering gynae.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    Are you implying that I am a 27 yr old virgin that doesn't know what a vagina looks like, and if so, what leads you to this conclusion?

    Otherwise could you explain the joke because I don't get it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Stalin and rugby


    spurious wrote: »
    Let's hope nobody in the last few posts is considering gynae.:)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I am 'she', not 'he'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    ah, so you weren't actually directing that at me at all. it was just a vagiant misunderstanding


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    How very dare you refer to my generalia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Stalin and rugby


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    spurious wrote: »
    I am 'she', not 'he'.

    Mind well and truly blown. I think I imagined you as your avatar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    So just to clarify - what does everyone think the points for Galway will be next year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭spasmaster


    Paralysis wrote: »
    So just to clarify - what does everyone think the points for Galway will be next year?

    hopefull guess 736


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


    Welcome back, Sauron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


    finality wrote: »
    Mind well and truly blown. I think I imagined you as your avatar.

    Welcome back, Sauron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭hollingr


    spasmaster wrote: »
    hopefull guess 736


    College......2009.........2010...........2011
    Cork..........715...10.....725.......8....733*
    UCD..........719....6......725......10....735
    galwy........712*..5......719.......9....728*
    RCSI.........715*..6.......721.....11....732
    Trinity.......724*..7......731*.....8.....739*

    I would call that more of a pessimistic guess.. An 8 point increase is just about the same increase as last year, during which there was pretty big inflation in top end hpat scores, while this year the hpat results are ever so slightly down.

    You really think honours maths bonus alone can have that great an effect??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 8mile


    Hey guys,if you want med so bad then why not go to budapest poland slovakia etc. to study it?


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