woman tries to jump consultants waiting list.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 8:55pm #1

I had an outpatient appointment in Galway last week and I was shocked and frankly, bloody disgusted by the attitude of a lady who tried to skip the waiting list. She walked into a packed waiting room full of public patients, everyone of whom, including myself, had been on the waiting list and we'd had to wait our turn on a long list to see a consultant.

She just walked in and demanded to be seen by a consultant. She had no referral and her GP hadn't written to request a consultation for her, she just seemed to feel that she is more important than everyone else. The real kicker was that she is Polish and started ranting that if she was in Poland she would be seen straight away and about how much better the Polish health service is. Well feck off back to the mother country love.

As if that weren't enough, judging by the row she was having with the nurse, the cheeky bitch had pulled exactly the same stunt the day before and the same nurse had explained the way things work to her the previous day. People with that attitude really piss me off. I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

Has anyone else come across this before.

The King of Moo · 19-03-2012 8:58pm

In fairness, it might have been a serious emergency.

Those swan bones can really get stuck in your throat.

AngryBollix · 19-03-2012 8:59pm

Perhaps her GP shuld have written her a plane ticket back to Poland if their health service is so good

Neyite · 19-03-2012 9:00pm

Was it a consultant for anger issues?

Sindri · 19-03-2012 9:01pm

Wow you certainly are an angry kitten!

angry kitten wrote: »

I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

That's what you should be angry about! :eek:

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:01pm

I should have said it was a neurology clinic, we have precious few of those in the country and the waiting lists are very long.

Canis Lupus · 19-03-2012 9:02pm

angry kitten wrote: »

Has anyone else come across this before.

So the real kicker was the nationality?? I hear you're a racist now father.

AngryBollix · 19-03-2012 9:02pm

Theres clearly a lot of anger in this thread

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:03pm

Sindri wrote: »

Wow you certainly are an angry kitten!

That's what you should be angry about! :eek:

I am angry about it, it makes me even angrier when people take the piss and try to pull stunts like she did.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:03pm

Canis Lupus wrote: »

So the real kicker was the nationality?? I hear you're a racist now father.

Nice try but I'm not biting.:D

woodoo · 19-03-2012 9:05pm

Consultant psychiatrist i'd guess.

strandroad · 19-03-2012 9:05pm

angry kitten wrote: »

The real kicker was that she is Polish and started ranting that if she was in Poland she would be seen straight away

I call BS on this - there are waiting lists there just as long if not longer. Unless you pay of course!

Rocky_Dennis · 19-03-2012 9:05pm

The King of Moo wrote: »

In fairness, it might have been a serious emergency.

Those swan bones can really get stuck in your throat.

Quality

Post of the day, I logged in just to thank it.

Biggins · 19-03-2012 9:06pm

AngryBollix wrote: »

Theres clearly a lot of anger in this thread

As posted by ...whats the name again?

44leto · 19-03-2012 9:09pm

What a racket the consultants have, I had to see one over some bald patches in my hair, I thought it was an emergency but I would have to wait 18 months on the public list, so I went private and got an appointment 3 weeks later.

There was a mix up and the nurse gave me another appointment so she squeezed me in. I arrived and I was number 21 so I assume the consultant sees 20 patients on her clinic days.

So I got to see her at 1215 I was in with her for about 30 minutes and to her credit the treatment she gave worked. Then at the end she said now I have to go over and do my public work in Beaumont (I seen her in Beaumont private). That visit cost me 220euro.

So she has 4 clinics a week which is 20*220*4= 17600 then she gets her half a million salary from the the public system.

It nearly turned me into a communist.

FatherLen · 19-03-2012 9:09pm

angry kitten wrote: »

Nice try but I'm not biting.:D

ah go on.

Biggins · 19-03-2012 9:11pm

FatherLen wrote: »

ah go on.

Now Father Len, you'll get another boot up the you know where! :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEIjXU7baSc

biko · 19-03-2012 9:13pm

This won't end well angry kitten.
Is this some continuation of your "Queue jumping/bad customer service" thread before the weekend?

AngryBollix · 19-03-2012 9:15pm

Biggins wrote: »

As posted by ...whats the name again?

Thats what I was getting at.

Bollixes women and cats are all going ape today

Darsad · 19-03-2012 9:16pm

I dont see anything wrong with expecting to see a consultant when you need to . The problem is we have always dipped the knee to the medical profession and paid far to much to them in the process. Perhaps she is used to dealing with the medical profession where they are not treated and act like gods . If they were not a vested interest whose numbers are controlled ie protected by themselves , then we would have plenty more and less waiting lists.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:17pm

biko wrote: »

This won't end well angry kitten.
Is this some continuation of your "Queue jumping/bad customer service" thread before the weekend?

No, I'm just remarking on an experience that I had at a hospital last week. I'm curious if people trying to walk into see a consultant without an appointment is a common thing in Ireland these days.

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:17pm

biko wrote: »

This won't end well angry kitten.
Is this some continuation of your "Queue jumping/bad customer service" thread before the weekend?

I was thinking it was a follow up to the one about the black gentleman knocking on her door. Really forners should all go back home. Thank God the Irish don't emigrate and when we do we have he manners to assimilate into the communities we join and act as ambassadors for our mother country.

Everybody else should try to be more like us.

stovelid · 19-03-2012 9:19pm

If she was better looking than you, you should have let her skip. Fair's fair.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:19pm

Darsad wrote: »

I dont see anything wrong with expecting to see a consultant when you need to . The problem is we have always dipped the knee to the medical profession and paid far to much to them in the process. Perhaps she is used to dealing with the medical profession where they are not treated and act like gods . If they were not a vested interest whose numbers are controlled ie protected by themselves , then we would have plenty more and less waiting lists.

Well if you need to see a consultant then you go on the list like everyone else, whether that be the private or public list. What you don't do is swan in and try to get ahead of everyone else because you don't want to wait your turn. I was shocked to see this stunt as I've never come across it before.

up for anything · 19-03-2012 9:20pm

angry kitten wrote: »

I am angry about it, it makes me even angrier when Polish people take the piss and try to pull stunts like she did.

FYP!

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:20pm

angry kitten wrote: »

Well if you need to see a consultant then you go on the list like everyone else, whether that be the private or public list. What you don't do is swan in and try to get ahead of everyone else because you don't want to wait your turn. I was shocked to see this stunt as I've never come across it before.

very good haha, you ain't as stupid as you sound

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:21pm

forfuxsake wrote: »

I was thinking it was a follow up to the one about the black gentleman knocking on her door. Really forners should all go back home. Thank God the Irish don't emigrate and when we do we have he manners to assimilate into the communities we join and act as ambassadors for our mother country.

Everybody else should try to be more like us.

Well she is Polish, she did try to jump the waiting list and she does believe that Poland has a better health service.

Dudess · 19-03-2012 9:21pm

Bet the story is bullsh1t.

woodoo · 19-03-2012 9:22pm

angry kitten wrote: »

Well she is Polish, she did try to jump the waiting list and she does believe that Poland has a better health service.

I hope someone told her to go back to Poland then. She won't be getting the benefits there that she gets here. Just wants the best of everything... for nothing..

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:24pm

Dudess wrote: »

Bet the story is bullsh1t.

It sounds it, I lived in Poland for a long time and had to wait a long time or pay to see a consultant. (mind you paying €18 seemed reasonable)

kjl · 19-03-2012 9:25pm

In fairness to her, the Irish medical system is a joke. I was in SA and had an accident where I broke a bone on a Saturday. I was seen in 25 min.

If I was in Ireland I would have been there all night.

_petulia_ · 19-03-2012 9:27pm

angry kitten wrote: »

I had an outpatient appointment in Galway last week and I was shocked and frankly, bloody disgusted by the attitude of a lady who tried to skip the waiting list. She walked into a packed waiting room full of public patients, everyone of whom, including myself, had been on the waiting list and we'd had to wait our turn on a long list to see a consultant.

She just walked in and demanded to be seen by a consultant. She had no referral and her GP hadn't written to request a consultation for her, she just seemed to feel that she is more important than everyone else. The real kicker was that she is Polish and started ranting that if she was in Poland she would be seen straight away and about how much better the Polish health service is. Well feck off back to the mother country love.

As if that weren't enough, judging by the row she was having with the nurse, the cheeky bitch had pulled exactly the same stunt the day before and the same nurse had explained the way things work to her the previous day. People with that attitude really piss me off. I've known people who've had to wait 3 years to see a consultant.

Has anyone else come across this before.

No, I've never encountered/heard of someone acting this stupid in a hospital before.

People who behave like this, regardless of nationality, just make an already bad situation worse.

But the real problem here is the size of the public waiting lists. She may have went about it the wrong way but she had a point, it is crazy to expect people to wait so long for treatment.

If you want to be angry about something OP, I suggest you be angry about our very poor public health service.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:28pm

Dudess wrote: »

Bet the story is bullsh1t.

It's completely true. A lot of people in Ireland, regardless of nationality, wait a ridiculously long time on waiting lists. It is disgusting that someone decides that the waiting list doesn't apply to them. It is offensive to see somebody from another country try to do so, especially while ranting about how much better the health service is in their country. So yes, if she doesn't like it, she can pay to private or feck off back to Poland. I also don't give flying f**k if I'm considered a racist.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:29pm

Nina_G wrote: »

No, I've never encountered/heard of someone acting this stupid in a hospital before.

People who behave like this, regardless of nationality, just make an already bad situation worse.

But the real problem here is the size of the public waiting lists. She may have went about it the wrong way but she had a point, it is crazy to expect people to wait so long for treatment.

If you want to be angry about something OP, I suggest you be angry about our very poor public health service.

I'm angry about both.

_petulia_ · 19-03-2012 9:29pm

angry kitten wrote: »

I'm angry about both.

Oh right, I thought it was just about the Polish woman trying to jump the queue.

RobbingBandit · 19-03-2012 9:29pm

Watch out this kitty has claws!

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:30pm

up for anything wrote: »

FYP!

It isn't clever or original to misquote another persons post.

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:30pm

Assuming this happened, I would have been angry if she had been seen ahead of me. According to the OP she wasn't so I don't understand the anger

After witnessing that I would have been amused that someone could be so silly and maybe a little turned on if she was hot.

If you get angry every time someone acts the eejit you must spend a lot of time in that state.

amacachi · 19-03-2012 9:31pm

angry kitten wrote: »

It's completely true. A lot of people in Ireland, regardless of nationality, wait a ridiculously long time on waiting lists. It is disgusting that someone decides that the waiting list doesn't apply to them.

You want to ban private health insurance?

Teyla Emmagan · 19-03-2012 9:31pm

Racist!!!!

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:32pm

angry kitten wrote: »

It's both clever and original to misquote another persons post.

FYP

forfuxsake · 19-03-2012 9:34pm

angry kitten wrote: »

It's completely true. A lot of people in Ireland, regardless of nationality, wait a ridiculously long time on waiting lists. It is disgusting that someone decides that the waiting list doesn't apply to them. It is offensive to see somebody from another country try to do so, especially while ranting about how much better the health service is in their country. So yes, if she doesn't like it, she can pay to private or feck off back to Poland. I also don't give flying f**k if I'm considered a racist.

Polish is a nationality not a race. Check out dictionary.com. It tells you what words mean. Also private is not a verb.

Teyla Emmagan · 19-03-2012 9:35pm

angry kitten wrote: »

It isn't clever or original to misquote another persons post.

Ah, in fairness sometimes it is.

19-03-2012 9:36pm

In many countries on the continent, you just go to whatever specialist you need, and you go the same day, paying a fairly reasonable price. All this referral and waiting list stuff is unheard of.

Last year, I went to my local doctor in the country I was working, with chest pains. I'd already had them a few times back home and had been sent away from the GP without them even looking at me. This doctor told me I was being sent for a chest X-ray just to be on the safe side. I asked when that would be and if it was worth waiting for a referral as I only had a couple more months in the country. He looked at me like I had two heads and said, 'you can go now'. Before I went, I had an ECG, performed by a nurse, in the doctor's surgery, no waiting around at all. After that, I went straight to the hospital where I was seen after 5 minutes, they gave me my images on a CD which I took back to the doctor and he read them for me. All on the same afternoon. 2 GP visits, an ECG and chest X-rays, all non-emergency. For a total cost of about 60 euro.

I don't understand why the healthcare system in the UK and Ireland is so complicated, drawn-out and anxiety producing. Months and months of waiting for letters and scans and test results, when it could all be done in the same week elsewhere. So maybe this Polish woman, if she was real, didn't understand why on earth everything has to be so complicated.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:36pm

amacachi wrote: »

You want to ban private health insurance?

I've got no problem with private health insurance, I had it myself for years, but when I emigrated years ago the policy lapsed and I can't get cover for a previously existing condition. I'd love to have it again, although with the expense of private health insurance on the increase I'd say there'll be many people getting rid of their private policies.

mattjack · 19-03-2012 9:37pm

biko wrote: »

This won't end well angry kitten.
Is this some continuation of your "Queue jumping/bad customer service" thread before the weekend?

This is your one and only chance Biko,if you don't come back here with a dead mouse,some milk and a tray of cat litter for ****ting in, you're banned for ever.

3ndahalfof6 · 19-03-2012 9:39pm

did you notice if she had a "protein shake" on her person and was she lifting her arms up and down very fast while holding cannon balls (when asked what they were she said her husbands balls, in my country polish men are polish) did the veins in her neck look like fuel cell rods,

sometimes when they are like this they get angry. kurwa, skurwysyn.

angry kitten · 19-03-2012 9:40pm

Daniella Breezy Lubrication wrote: »

In many countries on the continent, you just go to whatever specialist you need, and you go the same day, paying a fairly reasonable price. All this referral and waiting list stuff is unheard of.

Last year, I went to my local doctor in the country I was working, with chest pains. I'd already had them a few times back home and had been sent away from the GP without them even looking at me. This doctor told me I was being sent for a chest X-ray just to be on the safe side. I asked when that would be and if it was worth waiting for a referral as I only had a couple more months in the country. He looked at me like I had two heads and said, 'you can go now'. Before I went, I had an ECG, performed by a nurse, in the doctor's surgery, no waiting around at all. After that, I went straight to the hospital where I was seen after 5 minutes, they gave me my images on a CD which I took back to the doctor and he read them for me. All on the same afternoon. 2 GP visits, an ECG and chest X-rays, all non-emergency. For a total cost of about 60 euro.

I don't understand why the healthcare system in the UK and Ireland is so complicated, drawn-out and anxiety producing. Months and months of waiting for letters and scans and test results, when it could all be done in the same week elsewhere. So maybe this Polish woman, if she was real, didn't understand why on earth everything has to be so complicated.

The nurse had explained to her the previous day, that she would have to get her gp to write to the consultant and push for her to be seen urgently or failing that, she could come in through A and E. She just didn't want to wait. She said something about wanting a letter for Social Services.

19-03-2012 9:40pm

Darsad wrote: »

I dont see anything wrong with expecting to see a consultant when you need to . The problem is we have always dipped the knee to the medical profession and paid far to much to them in the process. Perhaps she is used to dealing with the medical profession where they are not treated and act like gods . If they were not a vested interest whose numbers are controlled ie protected by themselves , then we would have plenty more and less waiting lists.

The Irish Medical Council has a lay majority, we are the only country in Europe where the medical profession is not self regulated.

Still, why let facts get in the way of some begrudgery.

bobmalooka · 19-03-2012 9:42pm

Had a little bit of a similar situation last week waiting to see the doctor at a pregnancy clinic. (well waiting for herself to see the doctor)

The doctor was about an hour behind schedule and everybody was informed by the receptionist that there would be a delay. This however went over the head of one couple there (from a certain community who are described as moving a lot)

Everytime somebody was seen they would get up and shout 'we're next we're next', the receptionist explained to them that everybody was being seen in the order they arrived in and that knowbody who arrived after them would see the doctor before them.

They just couldn't understand it and continued shouting everytime somebody was called in, the receptionist even told them after every patient was seen how many more turns they needed to wait. i.e. '4 more to go' '3 more to go' etc.

Anyways they went up to the receptionist when 3 places away from being seen and demanded to be next because its not fair for travellers to wait so long, they were seen next.

Unfortunately some people are too stupid to understand the concept of having to wait and the reasons why they cant get instant access to medical professionals for free, but they do understand if they are enough of a pain in the arse they get what they want.

mattjack · 19-03-2012 9:43pm

angry kitten wrote: »

The nurse had explained to her the previous day, that she would have to get her gp to write to the consultant and push for her to be seen urgently or failing that, she could come in through A and E. She just didn't want to wait. She said something about wanting a letter for Social Services.

How do you know the nurse explained all this the previous day ?

woman tries to jump consultants waiting list.

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