Council vote on new Westside Tesco

Fey! · 15-06-2011 10:19am #1

Does anyone know when the revote on the rezoning of land in Westside to potentially make way for a Tesco is due to take place?

For reference, this is what I'm talking about:

http://www.galwaynews.ie/18687-high-court-bid-overturn-refusal-big-retail-centre

Thanks.

emptybladder · 15-06-2011 10:54am

Well the next meeting is the end of this month and that's to vote on new mayor, so I guess pretty close to the July 11 deadline. There was a story o galwaynews last weekend

what_traffic · 15-06-2011 11:08am

Based on:

http://www.galwaynews.ie/19886-new-vote-may-pave-way-%E2%82%AC35m-hypermarket
New vote may pave way for €35m hypermarket June 10, 2011 - 7:15am

"
In the High Court on Tuesday, Mr Justice George Birmingham said that specific vote should be re-taken by July 11, and awarded two-thirds of the costs of the proceedings to Mr O’Higgins.
"

dell1211 · 15-06-2011 11:22am

I really hope that this does not happen. If it does Galway will have 2 large tesco shops, 1 hyper tesco and 2 tesco express.

Fair enough the petrol station will be good for galway as it will force other stations to reduce prices(like claremorris) but as for the rest its only going to damage galway in the long term, local family run businesses will close(bakerys, butcher, fish mongers, DIY shops, music shops, chemists, newsagents, off licences, clothes shops........), keep people away from the city centre and not to mention damage local suppliers. Each week there are hundreds of tesco trucks bringing in goods from the UK that can be produced in Ireland/Galway but they arent because Tesco have such a monopoly on suppliers that they can name their prices and only the very large suppliers win, for example look at cold meat counter, most of their meat comes from the UK(except the likes of denny/galtee). We should learn from the mistakes made in towns in the UK where they have become ghost areas due to tescos dominance.

Ill prob be accused of being a shill again, this time on behalf of aldi or dunnes and this thread will probably get locked like my gobus one was. So much for supporting local business at a time when they need it the most.

Fey! · 15-06-2011 11:36am

From my understanding of it, this is where it would be.

Personally I don't think that it is necessary, and I don't want to see it happen.

Not only are there plenty of other shopping centres within shouting distance, but there is no infrastructure to support the extra traffic.

I am going to be writing to the coucillors about it, and I hope that many others do,too.

snubbleste · 15-06-2011 12:00pm

There are 5 Dunnes' in Galway..

I don't really care if there is a Tesco/Supermarket there tbh. I think it's a good location, act as a balance to the strip of supermarkets on the Headford Road.

Fey! · 15-06-2011 12:27pm

snubbleste wrote: »

There are 5 Dunnes' in Galway..

I don't really care if there is a Tesco/Supermarket there tbh. I think it's a good location, act as a balance to the strip of supermarkets on the Headford Road.

6 Dunnes, or 7 if you take the clothes and off license in Eyre Square seperately.

Considering that the junctions from Rahoon Road, Old Seamus Quirke Road and Bothar Le Cheile onto Seamus Quirke Road can't deal efficiently with the traffic flow, and are downright dangerous, how would you propose to deal with the extra traffic brought in by yet another supermarket/shopping centre?

c_man · 15-06-2011 12:29pm

Weren't Tesco originally located where Dunnes are in the Westside shopping centre back in the 80's? I'm almost 100% sure that's correct. If so, they have every right to come back to their land - just like the Israelis.

Robbo · 15-06-2011 12:37pm

c_man wrote: »

Weren't Tesco originally located where Dunnes are in the Westside shopping centre back in the 80's? I'm almost 100% sure that's correct. If so, they have every right to come back to their land - just like the Israelis.

Tesco are god's chosen people?

Seriously, I think this proposal is mental from a traffic point of view. Tesco would be much better off shellacking Joyces and occupying that.

Of course the council wouldn't be in this mess and would be ~€80k better off in legal fees if our esteemed representatives didn't behave like children at meetings.

johngalway · 15-06-2011 1:12pm

dell1211 wrote: »

I really hope that this does not happen. If it does Galway will have 2 large tesco shops, 1 hyper tesco and 2 tesco express.

Fair enough the petrol station will be good for galway as it will force other stations to reduce prices(like claremorris) but as for the rest its only going to damage galway in the long term, local family run businesses will close(bakerys, butcher, fish mongers, DIY shops, music shops, chemists, newsagents, off licences, clothes shops........), keep people away from the city centre and not to mention damage local suppliers. Each week there are hundreds of tesco trucks bringing in goods from the UK that can be produced in Ireland/Galway but they arent because Tesco have such a monopoly on suppliers that they can name their prices and only the very large suppliers win, for example look at cold meat counter, most of their meat comes from the UK(except the likes of denny/galtee). We should learn from the mistakes made in towns in the UK where they have become ghost areas due to tescos dominance.

Ill prob be accused of being a shill again, this time on behalf of aldi or dunnes and this thread will probably get locked like my gobus one was. So much for supporting local business at a time when they need it the most.

Agree with you entirely.

beardybrewer · 15-06-2011 1:34pm

It hardly seems far away enough from Terryland to warrant it. I'd prefer to see it closer to B&Q. Or if they would just knock the existing one and put in proper parking so it wasn't such a pain that would work too. I avoid Lidl/Argos/Tesco due to the horrible parking. In fact, almost every carpark in galway is horrible. Even the new Dunnes/B&Q carpark seems to have been designed by an absolute idiot. Who places the entrance for the underground parking at the furthest point from the entrance of the carpark? It's almost always empty down there if you wade through all the traffic to actually get to the ramp down to it.

GerardKeating · 15-06-2011 1:39pm

newkie wrote: »

Even the new Dunnes/B&Q carpark seems to have been designed by an absolute idiot. Who places the entrance for the underground parking at the furthest point from the entrance of the carpark? It's almost always empty down there if you wade through all the traffic to actually get to the ramp down to it.

I think that would have been solved in phase II, (the large pit to the right on the centre, what is build is only half the development.

beardybrewer · 15-06-2011 1:39pm

Oh, you guys mention traffic and you're probably right despite turning Seamus Quirke Rd in to a 4 lane road. Have you guys heard as well that the extra lanes will just be bus lanes? It seems a new Tesco would force them to open up those lanes to everyone.

emptybladder · 15-06-2011 2:05pm

Tesco closed their westside store in the mid 80s and it was H Williams then for a while

beardybrewer · 15-06-2011 2:26pm

GerardKeating wrote: »

I think that would have been solved in phase II, (the large pit to the right on the centre, what is build is only half the development.

That might be it. And also it seems the designers intended for you to go straight but they immediately closed that up forcing everyone to turn left towards B&Q. If those cones weren't there you could go straight over to dunes, turn right, then right again and down the ramp. Still not brilliant but would cut out a certain amount of traffic.

Pure Sound · 15-06-2011 2:28pm

c_man wrote: »

Weren't Tesco originally located where Dunnes are in the Westside shopping centre back in the 80's? I'm almost 100% sure that's correct. If so, they have every right to come back to their land - just like the Israelis.

Are you actually joking or are you trying to get a reaction from people

Back on topic, that seems to be the T O'Higgins factory, are they closing down or something, What would happen to the Simon Community shop. I agree with previous posters, we don't need it, it would be terrible for traffic - Rahoon Rd is already way too congested and it would be bad for local business and the town centre in general.

Aerohead · 15-06-2011 2:38pm

I agree with some of the posters here that there is no need for any more supermarkets in the area, as a matter of fact I could see a lot of objections to this from Dunnes and Aldi and who could blame them. Tesco seem to jump on the bandwagon where ever Dunnes and the like set up shop its just over the top with this development, what could really happen is job losses in the existing shopping centre if this went ahead, there is not enough customers in this town to support a shop this size.

dmcg90 · 15-06-2011 2:47pm

Seeing as there is always pretty big queues in Tesco and Dunnes in peak hours I do think it could, I would still prefer if the Headford Road branch was extended to incorporate the old Atlantic Homecare, the shop is just too small for the amount it sells.

emptybladder · 15-06-2011 3:39pm

Don't forget, Aldi are trying to get planning on a site in knocknacarra across from monkey business also. It'll be near the new medical centre. Which in itSelf will be handy for the customers of the new KFC drive thru going in up there!

_Whimsical_ · 15-06-2011 4:09pm

newkie wrote: »

It hardly seems far away enough from Terryland to warrant it. I'd prefer to see it closer to B&Q. Or if they would just knock the existing one and put in proper parking so it wasn't such a pain that would work too. I avoid Lidl/Argos/Tesco due to the horrible parking. In fact, almost every carpark in galway is horrible. Even the new Dunnes/B&Q carpark seems to have been designed by an absolute idiot. Who places the entrance for the underground parking at the furthest point from the entrance of the carpark? It's almost always empty down there if you wade through all the traffic to actually get to the ramp down to it.

I was talking to someone who's working there the other day and he was saying that if they move to move to westside they'd probably be leaving the terry land premises. Theres very little room for storage there already and no room to diversify into clothes and stocking more electronics etc. Apparently the Westside site is particularly attractive to them for the huge storage it would offer which would save a lot of money as they'd need less frequent stock deliveries.At the moment it seems they need very regular deliveries and servicing so many deliveries isn't very financially beneficial.

Personally I think it's a bad idea. Right behind the proposed site is a quiet residential area which I'm sure would be largely change by introduction of a hyper Market on their doorsteps and by traffic changes. I hope that local communities will voice some objections.

Webbs · 15-06-2011 4:14pm

If Dunnes hadnt had such a monopoly on putting up stores in every development in Town and that other retailers had had a look in then we probably wouldnt be in this situation.
Where were the planners when knocknacarra and Briarhill were being put up and stopping Dunnes moving in.

kayos · 15-06-2011 4:38pm

Webbs wrote: »

Where were the planners when knocknacarra and Briarhill were being put up and stopping Dunnes moving in.

While I agree with you on the fact dunnes in knocknacarra should have been a different chain I dont think the planners would really have a say in what chain goes in.

dell1211 · 15-06-2011 4:40pm

Webbs wrote: »

If Dunnes hadnt had such a monopoly on putting up stores in every development in Town and that other retailers had had a look in then we probably wouldnt be in this situation.
Where were the planners when knocknacarra and Briarhill were being put up and stopping Dunnes moving in.

Planners/councilors cant have a preference for either dunnes or tesco, their objection has to be based on the merits of the development itself, eg traffic / suitability.

Both Dunnes and Tesco had a bidding war over briarhill with the owner of the shopping centre, dunnes won it was nothing to do with the planners

beardybrewer · 15-06-2011 5:12pm

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

I was talking to someone who's working there the other day and he was saying that if they move to move to westside they'd probably be leaving the terry land premises. Theres very little room for storage there already and no room to diversify into clothes and stocking more electronics etc. Apparently the Westside site is particularly attractive to them for the huge storage it would offer which would save a lot of money as they'd need less frequent stock deliveries.At the moment it seems they need very regular deliveries and servicing so many deliveries isn't very financially beneficial.

Personally I think it's a bad idea. Right behind the proposed site is a quiet residential area which I'm sure would be largely change by introduction of a hyper Market on their doorsteps and by traffic changes. I hope that local communities will voice some objections.

v. interesting about logistic problems of terryland site.

Well I for one wouldn't mind a better commercial offering in Westside, we already have a Dunnes, Aldi, DIY, and more there. However, I think the entire area could be redeveloped and done properly. I think we could lose the Westside Dunnes and the strip of stores across the street from it. I think the industrial estate behind Dunnes could also be repurposed for commercial, move those businesses to the many empty offices around town then flatten the entire area, throw in a big Tesco, M&S, and HomeBase and some restaurants along with smaller shops with proper frontages and parking for smaller thriving businesses like westside cycles.

Fact is, this isn't a town with a small population and neighbourhoods do change as a town becomes a small city. If we knew how to plan worth a damn we'd have planned and developed commercial zones in a satelite around the city centre just like we did business parks. Of course then you'd have to balance the interests of the city centre merchants when decentralizing the commercial zones. But I think city centre's have to natually offer something different to attact locals and tourists alike in to the city centre. Let's face it, if you could spend < 10mins to shop for food, clothes, pharmacy, and daily essentials you would in a nearby commercial zone located in a neighbourhood near you. But then on your days off you'd venture downtown for stuff like the market, pubs, and specialty stores.

Anyhow, it would be a nice to have a proper Tesco with full clothing / homestore. Ours shows it's age and I'm tired of seeing every piss-ant small town in the country having a better Tesco than ours.

moonflower · 15-06-2011 11:58pm

I'd love for a Tesco to open there. Dunnes in Westside is such a useless supermarket. It's poorly stocked, overpriced, dingy and the staff can be quite rude. The tiny Tesco in Newcastle seems to have almost as much variety of products and that's a fraction of the size.

Also that side of town is badly in need of a supermarket that stays open late, as Tesco tends to. On a Sunday everthing is shut by 8 and it used to be that the only option after then was to walk out to Joyces or over to Tesco in Terryland if you wanted to get something for dinner. That's changed a little with the opening of Tesco Express, but there's still nowhere to buy groceries after 10 on a Sunday, or after 11 any other day.

snubbleste · 30-06-2011 8:04pm

Ddi anyone see the media pieces on this about the residents associations in the area being against the development? One of them, Maunsells Road, was on about pedestrian lives being endangered by increased traffic..Residents there park on the footpath with scant regard for pedestrian movement for last few decades.
Hypocritical!

Fey! · 30-06-2011 9:25pm

snubbleste wrote: »

Ddi anyone see the media pieces on this about the residents associations in the area being against the development? One of them, Maunsells Road, was on about pedestrian lives being endangered by increased traffic..Residents there park on the footpath with scant regard for pedestrian movement for last few decades.
Hypocritical!

I'm one of the many residents in the area against the development. I don't park on the footpaths with scant regard for pedestrian movement.

Am I a hypocrit?

I'm against this primarily because the infrastructure in the area is not up to the extra traffic, either construction or customer, which this development will create. I'm 10 years asking council and councillors to do something about the junctions, but they keep letting the residents down and not doing anything.

stevecrow74 · 30-06-2011 10:45pm

I agree with some and disagree with the rest of ye!!

I doubt there will be increased traffic, in fact maybe even a decrease..
if people on the west of the city want to go to tesco's its a hefty journey across the bridge, one closer will cut that journey out..
people on the east of the city wanting to go to tesco's can use the one on galway shopping centre.. it will also be good to have competition between the two dunnes stores (westside/knocknacarra) to keep the prices down on the west side of town.

plus extra jobs!

Sponge Bob · 30-06-2011 11:30pm

A Tesco in Westside would be a traffic disaster. Why not build one in that deep hole in Knocknacarra beside Dunnes and let them compete properly for a change

planetX · 01-07-2011 10:32am

It's madness, hasn't Galway got enough supermarkets already?
We need amenities to make quality of life better - parks, swimming pools - anything but another Tesco....

GekkePrutser · 01-07-2011 10:41am

moonflower wrote: »

I'd love for a Tesco to open there. Dunnes in Westside is such a useless supermarket. It's poorly stocked, overpriced, dingy and the staff can be quite rude. The tiny Tesco in Newcastle seems to have almost as much variety of products and that's a fraction of the size.

I agree. The west side of town has enough supermarkets but the choice isn't there. The 2 Dunnes stores are too close together and they're too expensive and don't have any special stuff that Tesco does so well: Fresh herbs, good (and much choice in) ready-made meals and asian cooking products are the ones I go to Tesco for mostly. But I don't get to go over there much because the traffic situation and it's too far to walk. I'd love to see the west side be a bit more self-sustained in these ways.

For me the ideal location would also be the 'big hole' between Dunnes and Aviva though. The location talked about here is already very busy.

?Cee?view · 01-07-2011 11:25am

I wonder will the traffic really be that much heavier? I'd say that traffic is just being used as a bit of a red herring by the residents.

If it does go ahead, it's hard to see how it could ever by as busy as O Higgins was in the construction boom. There are certainly less builders' trucks around Shantalla and Maunsell's Road.

I think this development is in the Higgins' factory. If it goes ahead there, surely then won't be any trucks making deliveries to and from the factory.

To me, it seems that anything that makes the west side of the town more self-contained deserves serious consideration. Who would actually want to go over to the Headford Road from west of the river if it can be avoided? Maybe this should be considered rather than just the concerns of relatively few residents, who likely aren't going to experience much more traffic anyway.

Sponge Bob · 01-07-2011 11:31am

churchview wrote: »

I wonder will the traffic really be that much heavier? I'd say that traffic is just being used as a bit of a red herring by the residents.
Maybe this should be considered rather than just the concerns of relatively few residents, who likely aren't going to experience much more traffic anyway.

The traffic will be lunatic as anywone with any sense knows, especially the residents. Put it in the hole in Knocknacarra where the road network can deal with it and which is not residential, not off the SQR which will largely be bus lanes as we know.

?Cee?view · 01-07-2011 11:38am

Sponge Bob wrote: »

The traffic will be lunatic as anywone with any sense knows, especially the residents. Put it in the hole in Knocknacarra where the road network can deal with it and which is not residential, not off the SQR which will largely be bus lanes as we know.

Would it though? You could have traffic in one side (SQR) and out the other (Shantalla). The exiting traffic would go up to the junction with SQR nearest Glen Dara as presumably most would be going West.

It still seems to me that some consideration of the benefits of traffic being taken away from crossing the river should be considered.

Sure, the hole in Rahoon would be the perfect place, but is the developer there actually talking to anyone, not to mind Tesco? In Shantalla, Michael O'hUiginn is doing the talking so maybe his proposal with get through even if the Rahoon hole would be a much better site.

TristanPeter · 01-07-2011 11:52am

I'm not really for or against the development. I think it would have pros and cons. Has there been any actual site plans proposed? I'd love to see the layout and especially parking details. Surely there would have to be underground parking in place? If so, they might learn a thing or two from the Knocknacarra system.

On a side note, it really annoys me that Catherine Connolly was the cause of €120,000 in legal fees (correct me if I'm wrong). She's a solicitor/barrister so I'm sure she would have been aware of the potential results of her actions, which IMO were totally unacceptable and childish. Who pays these legal costs? But anyway...

Sponge Bob · 01-07-2011 12:06pm

TristanPeter wrote: »

IOn a side note, it really annoys me that Catherine Connolly was the cause of €120,000 in legal fees (correct me if I'm wrong). She's a solicitor/barrister so I'm sure she would have been aware of the potential results of her actions, which IMO were totally unacceptable and childish. Who pays these legal costs? But anyway...

Fair point. If the council was liable to large costs because she refused to leave the chamber and then voted, after a valid ruling that she should leave, then she should be liable for those costs.

But a Tesco on that site, nahhh! The large electricty substation makes it impossible to configure properly and the roads around it are not suitable for the traffic it would generate.

It would be a good site for private hospital perhaps :cool:

_Whimsical_ · 01-07-2011 2:08pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Fair point. If the council was liable to large costs because she refused to leave the chamber and then voted, after a valid ruling that she should leave, then she should be liable for those costs.

But a Tesco on that site, nahhh! The large electricty substation makes it impossible to configure properly and the roads around it are not suitable for the traffic it would generate.

It would be a good site for private hospital perhaps :cool:

I agree ,it would completely change the nature of the area and is a dreadful of idea in term of future traffic, not just for residents but for everyone using those roads to head west to Barna,Rahoon and Knocknacarra in the evening times. The whole point of the SQ road works was to ease traffic problems not so we could facilitate Tesco in creating more. You just have to imagine the havoc on those roads come Christmas time etc when you have almost the entire population of the west side of the city crawling along towards Tesco gridlock just to get home every evening. It is madness.

A private hospital or similar facility could work nicely ,good thinking Sponge Bob.:cool:

Mrs OBumble · 02-07-2011 11:46am

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

A private hospital or similar facility could work nicely ,good thinking Sponge Bob.:cool:

Or there's a public hospital just a hop-skip-and-jump away that allegedly needs more space.

Sponge Bob · 02-07-2011 12:03pm

I would not in the least mind a Tesco Metro in Salthill either, especially if the Burrenmount was flattened to make way for it. But the idea that a new neighbourhood shopping centre is needed across the road from Westside shopping centre is simply risible.

After the complete mess the corpo made of the entrance to Dunnes in Briarhill I have no confidence in anything the corpo planners are likely to do on the traffic management side.

snubbleste · 02-07-2011 1:43pm

But Spongebob, look at the Headford Road..it has a number of competing supermarkets withing striking distance and heavily accessible to pedestrians, bar the horrible roundabout. It's not all about motorists, which is what most of the objections seem to be against. Why could'nt that scenario be duplicated on the western side of town?

The council have a policy of creating town centres with services, and this would fit right in with that policy. I think it's an excellent location for a large supermarket, not particularly in favour of a Tesco, but anything that offers more choice to ripped-off Galwegians is good.

Sponge Bob · 02-07-2011 4:35pm

snubbleste wrote: »

But Spongebob, look at the Headford Road..it has a number of competing supermarkets withing striking distance and heavily accessible to pedestrians

Yeah right

Headford road Tesco was built 40 years ago in a windswept bog on the outskirts of Galway, there was nothing else out there at the time, it was as peripheral as Briarhill is today...or even more so. It first introduced 9pm friday opening because people only had one car back then and could get in to shop for once after the breadwinner arrived home.

It would be no trouble for a pedestrian to walk to Dunnes Knocknacarra from Westside/Highfield if you consider Headford Rd accessible. Over half the city population lives west of the Corrib and all they really had was Dunnes Westside until around 10 years ago.

UPCurley · 02-07-2011 9:55pm

In my opinion,

You're not getting choice with another Tesco. You're being limited to the products this large U.K. company selects for you to choose from. A lot of them sourced from large english companys.

Having another Tesco on that road, will mean that Westside will become a ghost town. Local family businesses will shut down. Then we definately won't have much choice in what to buy in the area.

Dunnes has it's faults. It's not my favourite place to shop, but maybe that's a good thing. It means that I have to go and shop in local butchers, fruit and veg shops, healthcare shops, bakers, specialty shops to suppliment my grocery shop. This gives me a much better and fresher selection of produce to bring him. It is also likelier that some of the product will be more locally sources, thus supporting jobs and being better quality and freshness.

| was someone who mindlessly bought my food and bits and pieces in the supermarket, but over a couple of years, I found that I wised up and now I only use the supermarket to buy what's on my list...some named items that I can't get anywhere else. I don't want to be 'seduced and pursuaded' to come out of a place with three for the price of two items I had no intention of picking up to begin with.

Westside is a unique area in Galway. It's not a strip like in the U.K. that you drive past every 20 or 30 km that has a repeat of the same mcdonalds, tesco, etc. etc.....Let's keep it that way. Lets support our local shops and friends and keep the jobs going. Let's spend our money on ourselves while times are tough. If you are like me, you will find the quality of your food, etc. will improve and you will be buying food that you want to eat. You will also be saving money too as you won't need as much 'stuff'.

Tesco might have come to Galway in the 80's. However, they left in the 80's when it wasn't profitible for them. They now see a market here. They will make huge profits and send them back to England. If it doesn't work out for them, they will leave. There will be no other businesses there then as they will have been wiped out.

I don't want that.

Sorry for the rant. Just my opinion. I read an article about how Tesco was ruining small towns in England also. I can't find it, but in my search, found this:

http://www.tescopoly.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=384&Itemid=191

thanks for taking the time to read this.

ps. I was also disgusted at the cynical attempts by Tesco to hoodwink the irish public. They advertised that they slashed the prices of something like 100 products, but when checked they had actually raised the prices before they did this. it was all over the media at the time. Do they really take customers as fools here?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0329/1224293299271.html

UPCurley · 02-07-2011 10:06pm

dell1211 wrote: »

I really hope that this does not happen. If it does Galway will have 2 large tesco shops, 1 hyper tesco and 2 tesco express.

Fair enough the petrol station will be good for galway as it will force other stations to reduce prices(like claremorris) but as for the rest its only going to damage galway in the long term, local family run businesses will close(bakerys, butcher, fish mongers, DIY shops, music shops, chemists, newsagents, off licences, clothes shops........), keep people away from the city centre and not to mention damage local suppliers. Each week there are hundreds of tesco trucks bringing in goods from the UK that can be produced in Ireland/Galway but they arent because Tesco have such a monopoly on suppliers that they can name their prices and only the very large suppliers win, for example look at cold meat counter, most of their meat comes from the UK(except the likes of denny/galtee). We should learn from the mistakes made in towns in the UK where they have become ghost areas due to tescos dominance.

Ill prob be accused of being a shill again, this time on behalf of aldi or dunnes and this thread will probably get locked like my gobus one was. So much for supporting local business at a time when they need it the most.

Hey Dell.
I just went back and read the whole thread now.
Sorry, for basically saying more or less what you said earlier.
But I totally agree with you.

padraig47 · 06-07-2011 5:56pm

I am in favour of the development. I live near it and it could not make traffic any worse than at present. It will be good for the community.

06-07-2011 6:17pm

awesome, cant wait, bout time a tesco filling station opened up in galway

as for traffic, meh, traffic has always been crap there, the council had their chabnce to fix, they botched it, adding a tesco wont make a blind bit of difference, gridlock is gridlock

colcar · 06-07-2011 6:23pm

planetX wrote: »

It's madness, hasn't Galway got enough supermarkets already?
We need amenities to make quality of life better - parks, swimming pools - anything but another Tesco....

very true planetx, theres plenty of places to shop around the place. why not build some thing for the community. the road is getting done, the local pitches practically dug up, and all that will be gained in the westside is a bloody tesco...

skelliser · 06-07-2011 6:32pm

UPCurley wrote: »

Tesco might have come to Galway in the 80's. However, they left in the 80's when it wasn't profitible for them. They now see a market here. They will make huge profits and send them back to England. If it doesn't work out for them, they will leave. There will be no other businesses there then as they will have been wiped out.

Tesco didnt arrive in ireland until 1997.
Up until then it was quinnsworth in the case of the now tesco store in the headford rd shopping centre.

Anyone remember the quinnsworth yellow pack stuff??!!;)

emptybladder · 06-07-2011 6:39pm

skelliser wrote: »

Tesco didnt arrive in ireland until 1997.
Up until then it was quinnsworth in the case of the now tesco store in the headford rd shopping centre.

Anyone remember the quinnsworth yellow pack stuff??!!;)

Tesco was in westside til 1986. Then they pulled out of Ireland but returned when they bought the Quinnsworth, Crazy Prices and Super Crazy Prices group. They became a class act in Westside in the 80s payin local lads 50p to return trolleys that were robbed. Then H Williams moved in and failed shortly thereafter.

skelliser · 06-07-2011 6:44pm

emptybladder wrote: »

Tesco was in westside til 1986. Then they pulled out of Ireland but returned when they bought the Quinnsworth, Crazy Prices and Super Crazy Prices group. They became a class act in Westside in the 80s payin local lads 50p to return trolleys that were robbed. Then H Williams moved in and failed shortly thereafter.

i stand corrected!

emptybladder · 06-07-2011 6:52pm

Remember goin to H "Williamses" with my mam when it was closing down. Daylight robbery, quite literally. People clearing racks of clothes and straight out the door.

Back to the point, Tesco will destroy the shopping centre. And if the constant rumour about Dunnes closing is true...

padraig47 · 06-07-2011 6:53pm

The issue should not focus on Tesco, especiially given the history of the westside.
As someone who lives near proposed site, I cannot see how it can make things any worse then they are. The situation at Aldi is really bad at the moment.

The corporation will have to come up with a traffic plan if the development is approved.
I find it objectionable that people are opposing it on my behalf, when I have had no say. Some people object just for the sake of it, methinks.

Council vote on new Westside Tesco

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