Derek (Ricky Gervais and Karl Pilkington Sitcom)

e_e · 10-03-2013 8:11pm

leggo wrote: »

But some people REALLY don't like it when you challenge their opinions.

You didn't even remotely challenge my opinions. Just lied and made mountains out of molehills.

Typical fanboy behavior.

e_e · 10-03-2013 8:13pm

leggo wrote: »

There.

So accusing me of conspiring against you is somehow a conspiracy against me?

Sorry, what? :pac:

leggo · 10-03-2013 8:14pm

Okay calm down Jack Bauer, let's not get worked up again. I suppose me not challenging your opinions is why it took you 46 posts to adequately reply to one of mine (until that was pointed out).

Let's leave this. It's ruining the thread.

leggo · 10-03-2013 8:15pm

e_e wrote: »

So accusing me of conspiring against you is somehow a conspiracy against me?

Sorry, what? :pac:

I'm a bit relieved to find out you don't understand your own posts either. I thought it was my problem getting my point across tbh. Fortunately not.

Basq · 10-03-2013 8:16pm

leggo and e_e,

Take your squabbles to PM please.

leggo · 10-03-2013 8:17pm

No. I'm happy to leave the matter here. Please don't ever talk to me via PM e_e.

e_e · 10-03-2013 8:17pm

Stepped off your high horse at last? Well okay I guess.

e_e · 10-03-2013 8:18pm

Just read basq's posts. Fair enough, wish I knew what he was on about that whole time though.

jcsoulinger · 10-03-2013 8:20pm

leggo wrote: »

Conspiracy theories

Paranoia

Trying to 'silence' voices

And now: Slander

You'd be forgiven for thinking this was an episode of 24. It's not, it's an argument on the Internet. But people don't like it when you challenge their opinions.

Cop on lads.

I assume your people too?

I dont mind opinions being challenged in a concise manner but accusing some one of bias and jumping on the bandwagon when a clear criticism was made is not challenging there opinion.

LOI Stats · 24-05-2013 9:08pm

Basq wrote: »

While it wasn't LOL-funny, it was an incredibly touching and accurate portrayal of the "Intellectually Disabled".

Gervais was amazing in it... that's for damn sure!

Agree with above. It made me cry.

Incredibly well acted all around. Just because it wasn't all drama all the time or all comedy all the time, doesn't make it unworthy of praise for its acting. I think personally, these are some of the most difficult roles.

I found it difficult to separate them from their personas in the Ricky Gervais Show etc... but only at first.

There were a few little moments that were gems. Different people will choose different bits I suppose. Different parts effected me more than others. Most people will get something different out of it.

When I finished watching the 6 episodes I felt like I wanted more, but I also see it as a beautiful little self-contained mini-series that probably would suffer for another series.

5/5, for me anyway.

Edit: Many comments on this thread made me wish there was a thumbs down button or something.

krudler · 15-10-2013 11:09pm

Finally got round to watching this on Netflix, it\s not very subtle at times and a little over reliant on music to stir the emotions, but when it is subtle it's either brilliantly funny or really poignant.

The final episode was brilliant stuff altogether, was a great little touch when Derek touched his dads hair when they hugged, harked back to the pilot episode when his friend died. I tought Kev's character throughout was annoying and kinda pointless, but his final monologue, that line about being a failure because he didn't try absolutely floored me.

08-01-2014 10:03pm

Watching this atm and not sure what to think. On one hand there's some very good writing and interesting characters but on the other it's full of sentimental, tug on the heart strings nonsense that feels like it belongs in a poorly made student film. The over use of the piano score to underpin every sad scene is ridicolous and really starts to grate early on. Kev has to be one of the worst characters to ever grace our screens. He's such a poorly written and ridicolous character that you feel that the show really could do without him. The scene where he shat his pants is one of the worst things that I have ever seen and Gervais should have known better

It's by no means a terrible show but it really should and could have been so much more. There's so much potential in the setting and characters but its all so in your face that it's hard to warm to.

Basq · 08-01-2014 10:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Kev has to be one of the worst characters to ever grace our screens. He's such a poorly written and ridicolous character that you feel that the show really could do without him. The scene where he shat his pants is one of the worst things that I have ever seen and Gervais should have known better.

I didn't like Kev in it at all... but he won me over the final episode!

David Earl's performance on Kev's monologue towards the end is just... well.. I won't spoil it.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 09-01-2014 2:21pm

Basq wrote: »

I didn't like Kev in it at all... but he won me over the final episode!

David Earl's performance on Kev's monologue towards the end is just... well.. I won't spoil it.

Agree with this completely.

09-01-2014 10:21pm

Finished the series and really disappointed by it. It's amongst the most cynical series I've seen in a long time and the while thing comes across as an opportunity for Gervais to pat himself on the back.

It strives for emotional weight but the writing is so trite and cliched that it has all the impact of a mid week made for TV movie starring some soap stars. It tries so hard to be hard hitting and adult but really it's just an excuse for Gervais to attract some acclaim for his acting. It feels like pure Award bait and I really can't understand all the critical acclaim.

Kev's monologue was sad and all but it just felt so flat and uninspired. Ut should have been truly touching but just came across as manufactured and bland

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 09-01-2014 11:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Finished the series and really disappointed by it. It's amongst the most cynical series I've seen in a long time and the while thing comes across as an opportunity for Gervais to pat himself on the back.

It strives for emotional weight but the writing is so trite and cliched that it has all the impact of a mid week made for TV movie starring some soap stars. It tries so hard to be hard hitting and adult but really it's just an excuse for Gervais to attract some acclaim for his acting. It feels like pure Award bait and I really can't understand all the critical acclaim.

Kev's monologue was sad and all but it just felt so flat and uninspired. Ut should have been truly touching but just came across as manufactured and bland

I'd say you're in the minority on this one Darko.
Personally, I like that Gervais has managed to tackle a somewhat taboo subject for a comedy series and made us give a sh*t about the characters involved.
Each to their own though...

BaZmO* · 09-01-2014 11:09pm

CaptainNegative wrote: »

I'd say you're in the minority on this one Darko.
Personally, I like that Gervais has managed to tackle a somewhat taboo subject for a comedy series and made us give a sh*t about the characters involved.
Each to their own though...

If he is in the minority I'm just waiting for the day that the majority come out and tell the rest of us suckers that it was all just a big con job. I'm a fan of RG's work but Derek just baffled me. I thought it was so forced.

Chazz Michael Michaels · 14-01-2014 2:02am

I just watched the first episode. Definitely not a comedy, and certainly does not make fun of the disabled, on the contrary, in fact. The way Derek responds to the counsellors suggestion that he get therapy is brilliant.

Its pretty decent, and Karl Pilkington is surprisingly good.

Chazz Michael Michaels · 15-01-2014 10:57pm

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

I just watched the first episode. Definitely not a comedy, and certainly does not make fun of the disabled, on the contrary, in fact. The way Derek responds to the counsellors suggestion that he get therapy is brilliant.

Its pretty decent, and Karl Pilkington is surprisingly good.

Just watched the whole season, its fantastic. Derek is such an endearing character. Anyone who thinks it makes fun of the disabled is, ironically, a retard.

IvaBigWun · 11-02-2014 10:17pm

Watched all 7 episodes of Derek on Netflix last night.

Incredible stuff. Gervais gets a lot of stick but he's finally made that third show that will still be loved decades from now, following The Office and Extras.

The only minor quibble was certain scenes with Kev and the song choice where

Derek runs to his Dad

was far too obvious. I think if the latter had been less well known but just as emotional then it would stand the test of time much better.

That said I almost blubbered like a girl at those closing moments.

Its up there with the scene in the Office finale where

Dawn storms back in to kiss Tim

or the Extras one where Andy

tells Maggie how much she means to him when addressing the cameras in the Celebrity Big Brother house.

Im not sure I could be in the same room as Gervais and his ego for too long but as a writer of amazing UK Sit-Coms and Dramadies he's up there with John Cleese and Armando Iannucci as the greatest ever.

Well done Ricky. You did good.

You did really, really good

Grimebox · 11-02-2014 10:21pm

What song was at the end? Its been while... I'll take a guess at Coldplay "Fix You"

IvaBigWun · 11-02-2014 10:31pm

Grimebox wrote: »

What song was at the end? Its been while... I'll take a guess at Coldplay "Fix You"

Thats the one. Im not sure but maybe its a mild spoiler in itself

Chazz Michael Michaels · 27-03-2014 9:07pm

Season 2 coming soon. Looking forward to it.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 27-03-2014 9:09pm

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Season 2 coming soon. Looking forward to it.

Source?

Basq · 27-03-2014 9:10pm

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Source?

I'm pretty sure I saw a photo of Ricky directing on set the other day..

.. so can't imagine it's that soon.. end of year probably.

EDIT: Actually.. this was the photo I saw, but it does appear to have been filming late last year, so could be quite soon.

EDIT 2: Yep, 23rd April..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyqoF-A4R0c

Glebee · 27-03-2014 9:16pm

I thought season 2 had screened last year, am I wrong??? I had thought id missed it and was looking out for it online..

Chazz Michael Michaels · 27-03-2014 9:18pm

Glebee wrote: »

I thought season 2 had screened last year, am I wrong??? I had thought id missed it and was looking out for it online..

Not according to Gervais' Facebook feed.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 27-03-2014 9:18pm

Glebee wrote: »

I thought season 2 had screened last year, am I wrong??? I had thought id missed it and was looking out for it online..

Season 1 aired last year. The Pilot was screened the year before.

Pilot + Season 1 = 7 episodes (so if you've seen 7, you're up to date)

Basq · 27-03-2014 9:19pm

Just when I thought I couldn't look forward to this series more..

..

JOE WILKINSON!!!!!!

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 27-03-2014 9:22pm

Basq wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyqoF-A4R0c

Joe Wilkinson

as Kev's brother! Brilliant.

27-03-2014 9:28pm

Looks decent enough, have my issues with the first series but looking forward to seeing what they.

mr_edge_to_you · 21-04-2014 10:16pm

Series 2 starting this week.

IvaBigWun · 22-04-2014 3:09pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Series 2 starting this week.

Tomorrow night isnt it?

Basq · 22-04-2014 3:18pm

Read during the weekend that Karl Pilkington has a very small role this season.. was only on set for 2 days.

phasers · 22-04-2014 7:04pm

Basq wrote: »

Read during the weekend that Karl Pilkington has a very small role this season.. was only on set for 2 days.

Aw no! He was one of the highlights of the first series. I hope that doesn't mean Kev has a bigger role...

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 22-04-2014 11:50pm

Basq wrote: »

Read during the weekend that Karl Pilkington has a very small role this season.. was only on set for 2 days.

I had guessed as much from the trailer. Don't think they'll make anything as near as good as the first season unfortunately, but sure we'll see what happens...

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 23-04-2014 11:13pm

Glad that they've kept the same tone from Season 1 - was worried they'd try to make it more sitcom-y, which would've ruined it, so good to see more of the same. Good ongoing storyline set up for Kev & Derek's Da I think.
Sad that Dougie has left, but I'm guessing Karl didn't want to commit to a full season. Hopefully he'll pop up again at some point.

#DerekSays Be nice to animals.

Richard tea · 23-04-2014 11:38pm

Same old tripe im afraid. Derek's father ( father Jack ) seems like a watchable character though. I seen an ad recently for Derek when he falls off a bike. It smacks of the scene from only fools and horses when Del falls at the bar. Will I watch next week? yes. Im a glutton for punishment:(

Grimebox · 24-04-2014 1:46pm

I don't think this really needed a second season to be honest. I thought it ended very well. I will continue to watch but I wasn't overly impressed last night, especially with the exit of Pilkington. I couldn't help but roll my eyes at Kev's childish sex jokes. He just doesn't really make sense as a character. I will try to keep an open mind as the first season really struck a chord with me.

24-04-2014 1:47pm

Watched the first few minutes last night but opted to throw on something else instead. There was little there that hadn't been done in the past series and while I wasn't in the mood for it,, I still think the issue is that the writing just isn't strong enough.

IvaBigWun · 24-04-2014 9:40pm

Does anyone know why Karl Pilkington has a very small role this season?

Last night wasnt quite there in terms of the standard of last year

Dan_Solo · 24-04-2014 9:42pm

Gervais is running on pure fumes at this stage. Couldn't identify anything approaching humour in the one episode of this show I watched.

IvaBigWun · 24-04-2014 10:16pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Gervais is running on pure fumes at this stage. Couldn't identify anything approaching humour in the one episode of this show I watched.

Knocking Gervais is so 2004.

Season one of Derek is excellent

jcsoulinger · 24-04-2014 11:05pm

Looks like its gone from bad to worse. Gervais is so much better than this overly sympathetic rubbish.

Dan_Solo · 24-04-2014 11:24pm

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Knocking Gervais is so 2004.

Seems to be back in fashion then looking at a lot of the comments on this thread.

IvaBigWun · 02-05-2014 5:19pm

A fairly large dip in quality with Wednesday's episode 2!

Is it just me or is Gervais slipping more into himself than the Derek character compared to last year?

the_monkey · 08-05-2014 4:34pm

I saw episode 3 last night, pretty poor to be honest, Karl Pilkington is a big loss to the show.

Kev's brother was too much ... I know Gervais is good at making the awkward/disgusting funny, but it was just depressing ..

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 22-05-2014 1:11am

Episode 5 was brilliant from start to finish... As much as I miss Pilkington's presence, I think Dougie leaving has worked brilliantly in bringing Kev into the spotlight... Went from thinking he was the weak link in season 1, to now believing he's the best thing about the show - his sculpture of Ivor just showed how great Kev can actually be.

Geoff is an absolute douche - really hope he gets his comeuppance in the season finale next week. Having said that, he's one of those characters I love to hate, which just means the actor is doing a great job.

One of my all-time favourite songs used at the end of the episode, which was a nice surprise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf7fEzIl22M

Basq · 22-05-2014 9:42pm

Was great.. as an

animal lover, I was in bits too!

That Idlewild song is a corker alright.. though was strange to hear it without Edwin Morgan's poem "Scottish Fiction" playing over the end.

IvaBigWun · 22-05-2014 10:56pm

Episode 5 was a major improvement on the very mediocre and sometimes terrible episodes 3 and 4. Lets hope it stays at a good standard for the finale.

Vicky/Victoria is getting more on screen time this year and thats a good thing.

Has Gervais said if he's going to follow his usual series rule of 2 seasons of 6 and a Christmas special (The Office and Extras) with this?

Derek (Ricky Gervais and Karl Pilkington Sitcom)

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