Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Becoming a Real Runner

18911131467

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    This weeks Plan:
    Monday: rest
    Tuesday: 8 miles with 5 x600m @ 5 k pace
    Wednesday/ Thursday: 12 miles GA
    Thursday/Friday: 5 mile recover with 6 x 100m Strides
    Saturday: 10k race (BHAA Firhouse) 10-12 miles total
    Sunday: 17m long run


    Tonight:
    8 Miles seems a long way when I am effectively only doing 3km of intervals, Anyway I did 3miles warm up @ 8:25 pace (143)
    Intervals: I found a stretch of Tymon that was around 0.38 miles. I calculated it to be about 600m, but it must be a bit more, about 610-620m judging by the fact that the pace is faster than the time would suggest. I must remember to change the units to km before these sessions :rolleyes: 600m at 5k pace (20 minutes or 4min/km) should take 2:24 or 6:26/mile pace.
    I did the intervals as follows:
    1. 2:21 (6:15/mile pace) Av HR162 (max (169)
    2. 2:18 (6:08/mile pace) Av HR 169 (max 176)
    3. 2:14 (5:57/mile pace:eek:) Av HR 169 (max 176)
    4. 2:25 (6:20/mile pace) Av HR 172 (max 184)
    5. 2:20 (6:09/mile pace) Av Hr 167 (max 174)
    Recoveries were 1:30-1:50
    Lap 4 nearly killed me as it was severely uphill, I think that equals my record Max HR.

    Recovery was a mile @ 8:35 pace (157). I couldn't be bothered doing a 2.5 mile recovery as it started lashing and I wanted to get home for the match. I'll add an extra mile and half to the recovery run later in the week.

    Total today: 6.5 miles in 52 minutes. Pace 7:58, Av HR 153.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Mulling over wether running long with you tomorrow would be a wise idea, trying desperately to take it easy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Mulling over wether running long with you tomorrow would be a wise idea, trying desperately to take it easy!

    Leave it to the weekend I reckon. It would be nice to do the full course at pacing pace (don't you think?). I am planning doing the weekend LSR in the park with Chingetti on sunday if you want to join us, we can do the course as 13 of those miles. I can also give you a lift up and down if you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Headed out to Tymon after work unsure if I was going to do the 12 miles GA or 6 recovery this evening. After less than half a mile I bumped into Aimman who was just out for 'a few' so my mind was made up. We had a nice little chat about his experince running the 50 mile race in Dingle at the weekend and I had to slow him down a few times because he was heading into a pace well outside my recovery run :p

    Did a few strides when I left Aimman and the groin felt a bit tight. The legs were also heavy after yesterdays speed session so probably just as well i did the shorter run tonight. I'll do the 12 tomorrow.

    6.5 miles recovery, Pace 9:03, Av HR 135

    I made up the extra 1.5 miles I missed last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Brianderunner


    menoscemo wrote: »
    I am planning doing the weekend LSR in the park with Chingetti on sunday

    What time are you planning to do this run at and what pace? 9 min miling would be perfect for me if i'm welcome, i really need to get the finger out for the DCM. Assuming you'll be soft from the firhouse race and will be taking it handy enough.

    Be careful with the groin on saturday, it's not a goal race so don't run through pain if it occurs, tyson gay has had problems with his for 2 years now.

    Good session the other day, you ran faster than i dd for the same p & d session before rotterdam. Looks like someone has his eyes on the sub 20 in rathfarnam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Cheers Brian, yeah i am not sure I am in shape for a PB in Firhouse anyway, so i might take it handy (famous last words :p).
    The Interval's sessions are definately being run with sub 20 in Rathfarham in mind!!
    As for sunday. I am meeting Chiguetti and maybe RQ at 10am at the junction of Chesterfield and Furze Rd. We will do the Half Course at pacing pace for practise (just over 9 min/ mile) and then stick a loop on the end. You are more than welcome to join us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Met RQ on the way up to Phoenix park to practise a bit for pacing next weeks Half marathon. In the park we did approximately the last 6 miles of the course (including both 'hills') at bang on goal pace.
    That's two people I have run with in two days who ran the Dingle Ultra at the weekend. Both looked remarkaly comfortable running a good pace. These Ultra Runners are definately one tough bunch.

    11.2 miles @ 9:06 pace, HR 141.

    Probabaly a little slow for a GA run and also 0.8 miles short of planned distance but Meh....... :D to Compensate for my slackness I sprinted up The Chapelizod hill Rd.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Then he 'waited' for me at the top of Chapelizod hill, but, I think he just needed a rest. :D

    Ta' for the company I'd probably not have pushed to 9 if I'd been on my own


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Then he 'waited' for me at the top of Chapelizod hill, but, I think he just needed a rest. :D

    Ta' for the company I'd probably not have pushed to 9 if I'd been on my own

    Cough. cough. I was just examining some flowers at the side of the road.

    You probably shouldn't have 'pushed to 9' at all. I'm afraid you are the definition of the word 'runaholic' :pac:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    Good luck Saturday - but take it easy on the injury. Your pacing 2.00 in the Dublin HM ? You might just meet my nephew (I don't know it he's running - he's being coy about his plans !) but 2.00 would be a PMP for him I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    pgmcpq wrote: »
    Good luck Saturday - but take it easy on the injury. Your pacing 2.00 in the Dublin HM ? You might just meet my nephew (I don't know it he's running - he's being coy about his plans !) but 2.00 would be a PMP for him I think.

    No worries PG, Injury should be fine. I'll wear the compression shorts and if it feels tight I'll slow down, it is not a target Race. TBH I don't expect to beat my 10k PB.
    Are you doing any tune up races?
    I have just signed up to the three tune up races prescribed by P&D
    10k Saturday, 5 k on the 26th September and a 5 miler on the 3rd October, hoping for PBs in the second two.

    Yep I'm pacing 2 hrs at the half next weekend. If your Nephew is following, tell him to come up and say hello. I'll be dressed all in black (got lovely pacemakers gear sent out in the post today :))


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭osnola ibax


    Question is are you going to barca


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Question is are you going to barca

    Fancy it?
    If DCM goes well, I'll definately go for it as training for the connemarra ultra. If it doesn't go well, I'll probably go for it as an attempt to run a good marathon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    I see Team Barcelona is increasing in size all the time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭osnola ibax


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Fancy it?
    If DCM goes well, I'll definately go for it as training for the connemarra ultra. If it doesn't go well, I'll probably go for it as an attempt to run a good marathon.

    I'm giving it some very serious consideration


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Simon 5 mile is actually the week after I thought it was http://www.funrun.ie/

    It's on a Saturday though which is good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Simon 5 mile is actually the week after I thought it was http://www.funrun.ie/

    It's on a Saturday though which is good.

    Thanks for that, I acyually registered lasy night :p
    It actually fits perfectly into my training plan.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Hopefully I'll be good to do it too. Same route as the leg it for your liver run I did in March so would be nice to smash my time from that.

    Time to start organizing the drinks in Ryans? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭gerard65


    Time to start organizing the drinks in Ryans? :pac:
    I think these races are only an excuse for a piss up.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Hopefully I'll be good to do it too. Same route as the leg it for your liver run I did in March so would be nice to smash my time from that.

    Time to start organizing the drinks in Ryans? :pac:

    Yes. The race starts at 10.30 so we should be getting to Ryans for opening. Also With the race over, I will be officially be on taper- a good excuse for a piss up reason to celebrate.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Sure it'll be the last chance to drink before the marathon. Has to be done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Sure it'll be the last chance to drink before the marathon.

    Not likely.
    Last year i lived like a hermit for a month before the race, giving up all booze and it didn't work. This year I'll be enjoying my weekends. That's why I genrally have all my runs finished up by saturday :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Not likely.
    Last year i lived like a hermit for a month before the race, giving up all booze and it didn't work.

    As I keep telling you, Beer = Carbs + Water + the stuff that tricks your brain into thinking you can run a sub 2 hour marathon after a few.

    Then after the race, Beer = Fizzy taste to quench your thirst + the stuff that eases the pain in the muscles, makes your legs even wobblier and convinces you that you're a good dancer even after 26.2 miles.

    Beer is good. Thats something you wont find in a P&D book ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Aimman wrote: »
    As I keep telling you, Beer = Carbs + Water + the stuff that tricks your brain into thinking you can run a sub 2 hour marathon after a few.

    Then after the race, Beer = Fizzy taste to quench your thirst + the stuff that eases the pain in the muscles, makes your legs even wobblier and convinces you that you're a good dancer even after 26.2 miles.

    Beer is good. Thats something you wont find in a P&D book ;)

    Did you get a chance to try that Kopperberg Mixed berry yet? Bliss in a bottle (and 5.3% alcohol to boot) plus it is made from fruit and fruit= healthy carbs, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Did you get a chance to try that Kopperberg Mixed berry yet? Bliss in a bottle (and 5.3% alcohol to boot

    Not yet, and you've just put the bloody longing on me now for a pint, lol.

    I'm heading out for a big family dinner tomorrow night. I'll try a bottle of it then. The German Weissbiers are usually 5.3% too and for the Oktoberfest and Winterbrau seasons, they have a 5.6% version. Prost!:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    If you dare carry out the actions threatened on jcsmum's log - I definitely won't be the one turning beetroot...:cool: You'll never find me. Mwah ha ha!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    That's the first time I have had the misfortune of using those three letters. I am not overly disappointed though as I was really only running this race because the Programme said to, not a s a particular target race.
    I Got to Firhouse early and I was registered by 9:30 so i decided to do a lap of the course (it was a 2 lap course) nice and easy. I could see it was a really diffcult course with the uphill drag along the firhouse rd also into a stiff wind.

    Anyway Warmup 4 miles 9:00 pace.

    Onto the race itself: met a good few boardsies before the race. I wasn't really in PB mood so I decided to head out with Aimman (who was targetting 45 minutes) for the first few miles to see how it was going. We started out too fast, doing the first half mile under 6:30 pace. At about this point I could feel my groin pull again. I said to Aimman I wasn't going to finish, and I dropped out at the first opportunity- around 1.5 miles, and jogged back to the race HQ.

    I don't think the injury is too serious- rather the same as I had 2 weeks ago. I felt it after my speed session in the midweek. It only seems to go when I dip under 7 minute mile pace. Anyway I'll go to the physio again next week and see what happens. Talking to a few lads after (thanks ecoli), they advised me to replace VO2 max sessions with tempo sessions- I think this may be a good Idea. I also was advised to get a pair of proper compression shorts for speed sessions (cheers Tunguska). It is looking like I may not be able to run the Rathfarnham 5k though, I will be really disappointed if that's the case. Sub 20 was a real target for me round there.

    I will do my LSR tomorrow- as I say the injury only flairs when I go really fast. I will staill be able to get the long mileage in.

    anyway 6 miles for the day. Unsure of overall pace.

    Nice to meet a few new faces: plodder, ecoli, Liamo, Shels4ever, the Roadrunner etc. (sorry if I forgot anyone).


    I have a funny story actually. After I pulled out I met a guy who had obviously done the same in the car park and got talking to him (he had pulled out due to shinsplints). I thought I recognised his face. We went down to see the leaders finish. Anyway after talking races, targets etc, he mentioned he did the Parkwest race in July. I asked him what time he got and he said 42:08- 1 second behind me!! Then it all clicked, I recognised him form the finish line photos of that race. He was the guy I was working hard to hold off in the last 200m of that race, the effort of which caused me to puke all over the place at the finish line. Funnily enough he said he had been too wrecked to see my 'incident'.

    Anyway It all give me a bit of confidence as he is a 3:22 marathon runner targetting 3:15 in this years DCM, and I managed to beat him (albeit by 1 second and at the cost of my entire breakfast :p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Sorry to hear about the DNF, but probably the most sensible decision to make at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Blueskye


    Pity about the race but as you said, it wasn't a target race. Hope the injury sorts it self out asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Forget about the DNF. Eyes on the big prize! Look after yourself tomorrow during the LSR.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Sorry to hear about that meno, but in a way thankfully its a groin injury, they are well manageable. As stated compression shorts and hot baths.

    I got a lot of them playing footy. Dont stretch a sore groin. The baths help get rid of the hard blood if there is a little tear in the sheet of muscle.

    Hope tomorrow goes okay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about that meno, but in a way thankfully its a groin injury, they are well manageable. As stated compression shorts and hot baths.

    I got a lot of them playing footy. Dont stretch a sore groin. The baths help get rid of the hard blood if there is a little tear in the sheet of muscle.

    Hope tomorrow goes okay.

    Cheers Kennyb, surprised I didn't spot you today, I was at the finish line, cheering everyone in (then Again I wasn't expecting you). You ran bang on my PB from 2 months ago today, so If I had been in shape I should have been running alongside you.

    I hear ya about the groin, it is definately a manageable injury- easy running and in fact anything up to HM pace is absolutely fine, it is just that extra zip that causes it to go. I can actually run on with it, and if it happens at DCM I certainly will- I just felt today it wasn't worth it, as Krusty says, eyes on the big prize.

    I have a physio appointment already booked for monday and have sourced some compression shorts that I'll be picking up early next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭osnola ibax


    Unlucky today mate. I'm liking your attitude though. Onwards and upwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭TheRoadRunner


    If the speed sessions are causing injuries you should consider dropping them. I ran close to a marathon pb in April running slow miles exclusively. P&D might be telling you to run fast but P&D needs to be altered I'd need be. Any decent coach would reassess the program you are on. No use flogging a dead horse or knackered muscle !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Cheers Kennyb, surprised I didn't spot you today, I was at the finish line, cheering everyone in (then Again I wasn't expecting you). You ran bang on my PB from 2 months ago today, so If I had been in shape I should have been running alongside you.

    I was in sneaky stealth mode. didnt even tell the gf i was doing the race till i got home from my ' long run'.

    Yeah a couple of times i thought you were coming up behind and one time i was convinced you went by me but obviously not. Im sure i ll catch you again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Well, I can't run fast but my long running seems to be improving.

    19.2 miles @9:28 pace. HR 141

    Met with Chinguetti, Brianderunner and Ronan, a boards lurker. Took the pace nice and slow for most of the run, Myself and Brian kicked of for the last mile and a bit which we ran below PMP (about 7:40 pace). I was only planning 17 initially but we wre all feeling good so we put an extra lap on the end. My HR was lower today than a few weeks ago when we did a 20. It also only just crept into the low 160's for the last fast bit which is pretty much where it would be normally so i am pretty pleased overall, especially since I had a few drinks last night.

    I carried a few bars with me today and we looped past the cars a few times for extra water so I am putting the performance down to this. I am usually pretty hungry and dehydrated at the end of long runs and my legs definately feel better today than they normally would.

    Weekly total:
    5 runs 49.4 miles


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I was going to turn around and join you all but I thought you were going a bit fast for me, seemingly you were going slower though? :pac: What happened to the early run?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    I was going to turn around and join you all but I thought you were going a bit fast for me, seemingly you were going slower though? :pac: What happened to the early run?

    That was the early run, we started at 10am. We were just crossing about 17 miles when we passed you and going at about 9:30 pace. You also looked to be going faster than you actually were :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    If the speed sessions are causing injuries you should consider dropping them. I ran close to a marathon pb in April running slow miles exclusively. P&D might be telling you to run fast but P&D needs to be altered I'd need be. Any decent coach would reassess the program you are on. No use flogging a dead horse or knackered muscle !

    Thanks RR. I Intend following that advice and replace speed sessions with tempos. I would still really like to race the Rathfarnham 5k though :o


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    Sure didn't we stop at the cars for water and jellies twice, twas a comfortable run. Mind that groin now Meno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    Good decision on the 10k. Tempo for V02 sounds like a good idea - infact I'd be thinking about alternating tempo with V02 - I think I am getting more out of the tempo runs (This part of P&D I find the least convincing). I'd think hard about the 5k if this does not clear up - you are never too far away from a shot at a 5k run (you will hit the sub 20 minute target - that's pretty much a given ) but you've put too much work into the marathon to risk it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭plodder


    Nice to meet you as well on Saturday Meno! Funny, I've been thinking about switching the VO2 max sessions with tempos as well. I don't have the book with me right now. So, I don't know what's scheduled for this week. But, I'd be interested to see what others might suggest instead of this weeks session (assuming there is one).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    plodder wrote: »
    Nice to meet you as well on Saturday Meno! Funny, I've been thinking about switching the VO2 max sessions with tempos as well. I don't have the book with me right now. So, I don't know what's scheduled for this week. But, I'd be interested to see what others might suggest instead of this weeks session (assuming there is one).

    This weeks session is 9 miles incl 5x 1000m at 5k pace (w 50-90% interval time recovery). I am thinking of doing something like:
    (1 mile easy, 2 mile tempo) x 3 instead. (Tempo here being somewhere north of 10k pace but south of HM pace).

    Nice to see you yesterday too, you ran a great time in tough conditions. Most of the top lads reckoned they would have got a minute faster on an easier course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    pgmcpq wrote: »
    Good decision on the 10k. Tempo for V02 sounds like a good idea - infact I'd be thinking about alternating tempo with V02 - I think I am getting more out of the tempo runs (This part of P&D I find the least convincing). I'd think hard about the 5k if this does not clear up - you are never too far away from a shot at a 5k run (you will hit the sub 20 minute target - that's pretty much a given ) but you've put too much work into the marathon to risk it now.

    I appreciate the advice but the tshirt at the rathfarnham 5k this year is just too good to turn down:
    compression%20top%2011.jpg

    I promise I will slow down if I feel any twinges and leave the sub 20 for Jingle bells in December.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭jcsmum


    Ah that's a pity about the 10k on Saturday but what a comeback yesterday. Great LSR.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Tonight was to be a VO2 max session (9 miles including 5 x 1k at 5k pace).

    With the injury I went for a tempo run instead. I robbed this one off the sub 3hr mentored thread:

    1 mile warm up: 8:52 (138), 2 miles MP: 7:50 (150), 7:50 (153) 1 Mile HMP: 7:22 (161) 1 mile easy 8:36 (149), 2 miles MP: 7:49 (144), 7:47 (156) 1 mile HMP: 7:05 (157) 1 mile cool down: 8:26 (157).

    Total: 9.1 miles 7:58 pace 150 HR

    Nice session, felt very confortable over a hilly enough course. My HR is pretty low over all and specifically in the second HMP mile (though downhill). I am also surprised at the HR in the last MP mile (7:47 -156) as it was all uphill and into a stiff wind.
    I definately appear to be making gains and am starting to feel confident about my prospects overall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    I forgot to say, I went back to the Physio yesterday and the basic conclusion is it is the same injury as a few weeks ago- a slight groin tear. It would probably have cleared up by now but for the heavy mileage I am doing. It should get a chance to heal up during the taper. Anyway I had a good session with him and am having another on friday evening (hopefully having me nice and fresh for pacing the half on Saturday).

    The order is no speed work (i.e. 5k-10k pace) for this week or next but he told me I will probably be ok to at least try the Rathfarnham 5k*

    I Bought an expensive pair of compression shorts which I wore out today and will hopefully help the injury.

    I have a big session looming this week- 18 miles w 14@PMP- probably the toughest session of the whole programme. I will not get to do it at the weekend, cos of pacing the half on saturday and then drinking afterwards. I am in two minds as to whether to do it on Thursday after work or replace one of the Planned LSR's in the following few weekends.

    *Obviously if I feel anything on the day I will slow down and run it easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    menoscemo wrote: »
    I have a big session looming this week- 18 miles w 14@PMP- probably the toughest session of the whole programme. I will not get to do it at the weekend, cos of pacing the half on saturday and then drinking afterwards. I am in two minds as to whether to do it on Thursday after work or replace one of the Planned LSR's in the following few weekends.

    I think you are better off leaving it until after Saturday, seeing as you are pacing, just in case. You wouldn't want to aggrivate it by clocking up 31 miles over 3 days, particulary with PMP pace thrown in on one of the runs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    but he told me I will probably be ok to at least try the Rathfarnham 5k*

    Its been said before but i ll say it again - forget it. You ve worked too hard for the marathon. by time you feel it the damage will be done. what is a 5k going to add to you for the marathon? Another DNF aint going to be good for confidence.

    Do your marathon and race as many 5k's as you want after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    Its been said before but i ll say it again - forget it. You ve worked too hard for the marathon. by time you feel it the damage will be done. what is a 5k going to add to you for the marathon? Another DNF aint going to be good for confidence.

    Do your marathon and race as many 5k's as you want after.

    I hear you. The only thing is that the Programme I am following (P&D) demands me race last weekend (Firhouse 10k), The wekend of the 25th september (Rathfarnham 5k) and the weekend of the 10th october (Simon 5 mile). I really have been following the program as closely as possible from the start and i am already changing it a fair bit by missing all the VO2 max sessions.

    I am not counting these races in or ruling them out completely. I am playing it by Ear. The physio says the groin problem should clear up quickly. And rest assured if I am in a race and feel any problems I will pull up or slow right down (In the case of rathfarnham I would slow down as i want that t-shirt). I appreciate your concern But I can assure you my eyes are on teh bigger prize.
    If I have to wait until Jingle bells to go sub 20 for 5k, then so be it.


  • Advertisement
This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement