Galaxy S5 €50 up front, €798 over 2 years

SteelyDanJalapeno · 12-08-2014 5:02pm

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S5,Google-Nexus-4/phones/8202,7531

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 5:30pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S5,Google-Nexus-4/phones/8202,7531

Why not compare it to the Nexus 5 which is only €350? Other than the camera there is nothing else better than Nexus 5 that makes the S5 worth paying so much money for.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S5,Google-Nexus-4,Google-Nexus-5/phones/8202,7531,8148

Etnies · 12-08-2014 5:41pm

The penny pinchers are out in force today.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 6:26pm

Etnies wrote: »

The penny pinchers are out in force today.

Welcome to bargain alerts

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 6:32pm

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Why not compare it to the Nexus 5 which is only €350? Other than the camera there is nothing else better than Nexus 5 that makes the S5 worth paying so much money for.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S5,Google-Nexus-4,Google-Nexus-5/phones/8202,7531,8148

This thread of whinging is still going?

If you're going to say there's no difference between the nexus 5 and the s5 I don't know what tell you.

Newer chipset?
Removable battery?
SD card storage?
Waterproof?
Better camera?
Better screen?
Better battery life?
Usb 3?
Assuming you've no interest in the heart rate monitor/fingerprint scanner/other gimmicks from Samsung.

"I prefer the nexus and I personally don't see the need to upgrade" is not the same as "this isn't a cheap deal for this product".

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 6:40pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

This thread of whinging is still going?

If you're going to say there's no difference between the nexus 5 and the s5 I don't know what tell you.

Newer chipset?
Removable battery?
SD card storage?
Waterproof?
Better camera?
Better screen?
Better battery life?
Usb 3?
Assuming you've no interest in the heart rate monitor/fingerprint scanner/other gimmicks from Samsung.

"I prefer the nexus and I personally don't see the need to upgrade" is not the same as "this isn't a cheap deal for this product".

Negligible and not worth nearly 200 quid extra, then they ruin all the gains by slowing the device with their own Touchwiz crap

Etnies · 12-08-2014 6:40pm

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Welcome to bargain alerts

Says the 5 month old account with almost 1500 posts. Sigh.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 6:44pm

Etnies wrote: »

Says the 5 month old account with almost 1500 posts. Sigh.

You must be new here

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 7:09pm

same ol sh1te wrote: »

Negligible and not worth nearly 200 quid extra, then they ruin all the gains by slowing the device with their own Touchwiz crap

*to you* not *to everyone*.

I wouldn't take the nexus if it was free because the lack of sd card and removable battery is a killer, but that doesn't mean that a free nexus wouldn't be considered a bargain by many.

I'll ask you to stick to the forum guidelines:

Please tell people where they can get *this product* cheaper elsewhere, other than the options I've already given. Anything else is irrelevant, off topic and not helpful.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 7:23pm

This could only be a bargain to someone who considers paying €530+ for an S5 a bargain, the majority of the posters here don't agree.

Davy · 12-08-2014 8:21pm

same ol sh1te wrote: »

This could only be a bargain to someone who considers paying €530+ for an S5 a bargain, the majority of the posters here don't agree.

The thread title explains exactly the topic of the thread, if you dont have any interest in a new galaxy S5 then their is no point posting in a thread to annoy people who do.

The price is including 400 minutes and texts so its not just the price of the phone.

bazual · 12-08-2014 8:23pm

I seem to remember alot of people purchasing new phones with the eircom/emobile offer in the below thread about 2 years ago. The price back then was 34.50 a month with a new Galaxy S3 for 139 which works out at over 700 quid. Its certainly a bargain for all those people on similar deals who want to upgrade.

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056638431/

salamanca22 · 12-08-2014 10:27pm

N5 owner here who used the s5 for about 2 weeks on a trial. Can honestly say the n5 is miles better in almost every aspect and I am a heavy mobile user.

Plus I will have android 5.0 months before s5 owners.

As for this being a bargain for the s5. It may be but a bargain overall it is not.

ShoulderChip · 12-08-2014 10:45pm

martineatworld wrote: »

Where exactly are you seeing poor reviews for the one plus...? Techradar rate it as better than the s5.

You can also purchase the phone without an invite from resellers

Yes I have the phone and love it

ShoulderChip · 12-08-2014 10:48pm

salamanca22 wrote: »

As for this being a bargain for the s5. It may be but a bargain overall it is not.

Right just as well the OP has S5 in the title so and didnt advertise it as just: bargain.

salamanca22 · 12-08-2014 10:51pm

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Right just as well the OP has S5 in the title so and didnt advertise it as just: bargain.

Well if someone is looking for a real bargain my advice is to look elsewhere for a better product at a lower price point.

My costs on my n5:
345 euro initial cost.
20 euro topup every 45 days or so.
20*16 = 320 euro
total cost 675 euro over two years.

Not to mention my phone is sim free so it will be more sought after when reselling it after those two years if I wished.

I can also use my credit to pay for my apps on the app store if I wish.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 12-08-2014 11:06pm

salamanca22 wrote: »

Well if someone is looking for a real bargain my advice is to look elsewhere for a better product at a lower price point.

My costs on my n5:
345 euro initial cost.
20 euro topup every 45 days or so.
20*16 = 320 euro
total cost 675 euro over two years.

Not to mention my phone is sim free so it will be more sought after when reselling it after those two years if I wished.

I can also use my credit to pay for my apps on the app store if I wish.

You're also not tied into a ridiculous 2 year contract if heaven forbid in 18 months you can't afford to make calls or texts, then you don't have to.

Zonda999 · 12-08-2014 11:18pm

To be fair, even as a Nexus owner I'd consider the S5 as a nicer phone. As regards the phone being sim free you can get the unlock code for the phone immediately after you enter this contract

Clearly plenty people here are shocked that this could be considered a good deal but you have to realise than anybody who has a top spec phone nowadays is paying as much if not a lot more(Paying more in most cases I reckon) than €790 over two years!

Esel · 12-08-2014 11:21pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

This thread of whinging is still going?

Unfollow button not working then?

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 12:12am

Esel wrote: »

Unfollow button not working then?

I subscribe to the forum and it keeps popping up near the top.

It would be useful if a lot of the posts weren't, as stated by the mod, just a bunch of timewasters.

I've been tracking the prices of replacement phones for a few months now and this deal was the first really good one I've found. A nexus or s3 isn't a significant upgrade over my dying phone, so I posted it.

I'll keep an eye out for a Nokia 3310 on a legacy 088 number offer to keep the pay as you go crowd happy.

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 12:20am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

You're also not tied into a ridiculous 2 year contract if heaven forbid in 18 months you can't afford to make calls or texts, then you don't have to.

And lo and behold, nobody is holding you at gunpoint to take up this offer. If I had cause to be concerned on that point, I wouldn't take it up either. Anyone that broke due to a change in circumstances 18 months down the line simply doesn't pay the bill, stops using the phone and concentrates on more important matters, like food.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 13-08-2014 12:22am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

And lo and behold, nobody is holding you at gunpoint to take up this offer. If I had cause to be concerned on that point, I wouldn't take it up either. Anyone that broke due to a change in circumstances 18 months down the line simply doesn't pay the bill, stops using the phone and concentrates on more important matters, like food.

And gets tied up in at least €180 of debt in the process?

same ol sh1te · 13-08-2014 12:30am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

And lo and behold, nobody is holding you at gunpoint to take up this offer. If I had cause to be concerned on that point, I wouldn't take it up either. Anyone that broke due to a change in circumstances 18 months down the line simply doesn't pay the bill, stops using the phone and concentrates on more important matters, like food.

BS, it's a 24 month contract, you can't just suddenly stop paying after 18 months, they'll follow you. You are liable for every cent

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 12:31am

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

And gets tied up in at least €180 of debt in the process?

Can you read? There's a mod warning in bold a few posts up.

This isn't a thread on MABS. It's an offer for people who might want to buy something cheaper than it is available elsewhere.

Are you interested in buying this product and or service?

XxMCRxBabyxX · 13-08-2014 12:38am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Can you read? There's a mod warning in bold a few posts up.

This isn't a thread on MABS. It's an offer for people who might want to buy something cheaper than it is available elsewhere.

Are you interested in buying this product and or service?

I can read fine thanks.

Saw the title and was interested, yes. My current offer suits me better though. Is that OK?

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 12:38am

same ol sh1te wrote: »

BS, it's a 24 month contract, you can't just suddenly stop paying after 18 months, they'll follow you. You are liable for every cent

Ever been in debt?

No?

They can't collect a debt you can't pay.

There's a hierarchy of debtors in these situations.

Debt resettlement agreements have to take into account ability to repay.

Writeoffs are normal.

But I don't know why I'm responding to obvious trolls, so I'll stop.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 13-08-2014 12:40am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

And lo and behold, nobody is holding you at gunpoint to take up this offer. If I had cause to be concerned on that point, I wouldn't take it up either. Anyone that broke due to a change in circumstances 18 months down the line simply doesn't pay the bill, stops using the phone and concentrates on more important matters, like food.

That's not how contracts work unfortunately, and don't try to belittle it, its a factor in this so called bargain.

Y2KBOS86 · 13-08-2014 12:41am

When did the Nexus 5 become the best phone in the world?

SteelyDanJalapeno · 13-08-2014 12:42am

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

When did the Nexus 5 become the best phone in the world?

It was 1st released October 31st 2013

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 12:50am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

That's not how contracts work unfortunately, and don't try to belittle it, its a factor in this so called bargain.

So you are just against the concept of contracts as a whole then?

Again, read the mod warning. Do you have a cheaper option other than what I've already posted for this product, yes or no?

Esel · 13-08-2014 1:00am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Ever been in debt?

No?

They can't collect a debt you can't pay.

There's a hierarchy of debtors in these situations.

Debt resettlement agreements have to take into account ability to repay.

Writeoffs are normal.

But I don't know why I'm responding to obvious trolls, so I'll stop.

Some under-bridge dwellers are not trolls. Most/all defaulters get put on a list where their ability to repay future bills is called into question; some of these may later find themselves living under a bridge.

Anyway, this is probably a good deal for someone who really wants an S5 and can afford the future payments.

Muahahaha · 13-08-2014 1:24am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

I subscribe to the forum and it keeps popping up near the top.

It would be useful if a lot of the posts weren't, as stated by the mod, just a bunch of timewasters.

I've been tracking the prices of replacement phones for a few months now and this deal was the first really good one I've found. A nexus or s3 isn't a significant upgrade over my dying phone, so I posted it.

I'll keep an eye out for a Nokia 3310 on a legacy 088 number offer to keep the pay as you go crowd happy.

Well thanks for posting because I know my sister is going to avail of this offer.

Also don't mind the naysayers, they're all over the Bargain Alerts forum. I've had to deal with them myself when posting a perfectly good bargain for Eircom's tv service for a €10 a month and they came out of the woodwork screaming like children how it wasn't a bargain despite the OP explaining it was a bargain for certain people, not everyone. Tbh I avoid posting technology related bargains I come across now because invariably the thread on this forum will get derailed by numbskulls who can't get it into their heads that just because it isn't a bargain for them doesn't mean it isn't for thousands of other people out there.

The rules of BargainAlerts are pretty simple- can the product be found elsewhere for cheaper? In this instance no it cannot, therefore it's a bargain. No one is claiming it is a bargain buying it Vs Apple or Nexus or whatever, it is a bargain vs. buying it in any other way and for the people who'll save money that'll be good enough for them.

dodzy · 13-08-2014 8:01am

Nearly 100 posts in less that a day for a phone advert. Jasus, from apple haters, Chinese cheapie promoters, and the best of all, those who time and time again forgot about the calls included on whatever plan you take up.

A typical example of one of those stupid posts would go something like this......"€40 x 24 for an iphone! You'd be off your head to pay nearly a grand for an iphone!"

Last time I looked, 2 yrs worth of calls, texts & data on ANY plan cost a lot more than €0.

bidiots · 13-08-2014 8:16am

Jaysus don't spoil the thread with facts
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Akrasia · 13-08-2014 9:19am

The main reason why I don't buy an expensive phone is because I know that the minute I bring home a fancy new gadget on a 2 year contract, my 18 month old daughter will drop it into the toilet and I'll be stuck with my 80 euro back-up for the cost of an S5. (the other reason is I can't afford it)

Mobile phone insurance is about an extra tenner a month onto the cost of this deal.

The benefit of a real bargain phone like the Moto G, is that it is cheap to buy, cheap to run, it doesn't require insurance but if you choose it, the insurance is 1/4 of the price, and the performance is more than adequate for the vast majority of users needs.

If someone really wants an S5 on a contract, this is probably the cheapest way to do it, but if you don't buy insurance and the phone is stolen, you're stuck with paying for a new sim free phone while still paying off the S5 contract

keithclancy · 13-08-2014 9:25am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Ever been in debt?

No?

They can't collect a debt you can't pay.

There's a hierarchy of debtors in these situations.

Debt resettlement agreements have to take into account ability to repay.

Writeoffs are normal.

But I don't know why I'm responding to obvious trolls, so I'll stop.

Ever moved abroad with an unpaid debt ?

Intrum Justitia will follow you all over Europe for sure and will make problems for you wherever you live.

E.G. Know of one person that moved to Germany, went to rent an apartment and then when they did a Schufa check he was listed as having a problem because of an unpaid debt in Ireland.

Also in Holland they will transfer the debt from Ireland to their Dutch Incassobureau and over here they certainly can chase you for it or basically make it impossible to sign up for any form of contract based service, even getting electricity, gas or an Internet connection will be a pain in the arse.

In short if you ever want to move outside Ireland, I'd make sure not to have any unpaid debts that are registered with Pan European Debt collectors.

Tinie · 13-08-2014 9:47am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

And lo and behold, nobody is holding you at gunpoint to take up this offer. If I had cause to be concerned on that point, I wouldn't take it up either. Anyone that broke due to a change in circumstances 18 months down the line simply doesn't pay the bill, stops using the phone and concentrates on more important matters, like food.

Do you understand how a contract works?

bennyc · 13-08-2014 9:59am

Cheers OP this is a great deal IMO for anyone who cannot shell out cash on a handset, again don't mind the haters,

SteelyDanJalapeno · 13-08-2014 9:59am

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Again, read the mod warning. Do you have a cheaper option other than what I've already posted for this product, yes or no?

You realize you've already posted a cheaper no contract option?

Apart from the fact it's cheaper, you'll also have the freedom of not being locked into a 2 year contract.

Besides 1 GB data is not alot, and I haven't seen it say wether its 3G or 4G data either.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 13-08-2014 9:59am

bennyc wrote: »

Cheers OP this is a great deal IMO for anyone who cannot shell out cash on a handset, again don't mind the haters,

Haters gonna hate, Benny.

salamanca22 · 13-08-2014 10:42am

Don't know why people get so defensive when someone posts an argument against their own posts. Post your rebuttal and if it makes sense then yay if not then there is no need to post it over and over again.

MOH · 13-08-2014 12:30pm

Cheers to the OP for the alert. But if you're going for this deal, check the T+Cs *very* carefully and keep a copy of the current T+Cs.

I got a HTC One on a similar deal early last year. Store price monthly was higher than the 'online exclusive' monthly price, 18 month contract.

After 12 months Meteor put the monthly price up to the original 'store price'. They claimed that the cheaper monthly rate was a discount applicable for the first 12 months only. This despite me sending them links to archived copies of their T+Cs valid at the time I signed up which stated no such thing. I also had an email from them relating to a query on my first bill in which they'd gone into detail on exactly how I was being charged, again with no mention of the 'discount' being temporary.

They kept insisting that I'd agreed to this at signup, and kept sending me links to non existent T+C pages. They sent an internal archive of a brochure-type page which I'd never seen, wasn't part of the T+Cs anyway, was contradicted by at least two of the sources I'd sent them, and was dated over a year before my contract began.

After I'd cancelled my direct debit and written to their customer services manager, they eventually cancelled the overcharge and applied the discount for the full period as a 'goodwill gesture', but refused to accept that they were wrong.

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 1:16pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

You realize you've already posted a cheaper no contract option?

Apart from the fact it's cheaper, you'll also have the freedom of not being locked into a 2 year contract.

Besides 1 GB data is not alot, and I haven't seen it say wether its 3G or 4G data either.

Yes, but do YOU have anything cheaper than what I posted, yes or no? No, all you're doing is giving out about the concept of contracts. Contracts don't suit everyone. That doesn't mean that because you disagree with them, nobody else is capable of evaluating them for themselves and making their own decision.

The only option which has a lower 2 year cost than this bill pay deal is one where you have to pay €530 in cash today, which is more than a lot of people can/will pay up front. It's very small long term saving (based on very conservative €10 a month top up) vs. huge up-front cost difference. I posted the options so people could make up their own mind. You, however, seem determined to force your mind on everyone else.

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 1:23pm

Akrasia wrote: »

The main reason why I don't buy an expensive phone is because I know that the minute I bring home a fancy new gadget on a 2 year contract, my 18 month old daughter will drop it into the toilet and I'll be stuck with my 80 euro back-up for the cost of an S5. (the other reason is I can't afford it)

Mobile phone insurance is about an extra tenner a month onto the cost of this deal.

The benefit of a real bargain phone like the Moto G, is that it is cheap to buy, cheap to run, it doesn't require insurance but if you choose it, the insurance is 1/4 of the price, and the performance is more than adequate for the vast majority of users needs.

If someone really wants an S5 on a contract, this is probably the cheapest way to do it, but if you don't buy insurance and the phone is stolen, you're stuck with paying for a new sim free phone while still paying off the S5 contract

1) The S5 is waterproof, which solves that problem.
2) Any phone can be stolen. Your car can be stolen. Your house can be broken into. Your bike can be stolen. Your wallet can be stolen. Should everyone walk around in body armour and live in a mud hut so that they never have to face financial loss due to crime?

keithclancy wrote: »

Ever moved abroad with an unpaid debt ?

Intrum Justitia will follow you all over Europe for sure and will make problems for you wherever you live.

E.G. Know of one person that moved to Germany, went to rent an apartment and then when they did a Schufa check he was listed as having a problem because of an unpaid debt in Ireland.

Also in Holland they will transfer the debt from Ireland to their Dutch Incassobureau and over here they certainly can chase you for it or basically make it impossible to sign up for any form of contract based service, even getting electricity, gas or an Internet connection will be a pain in the arse.

In short if you ever want to move outside Ireland, I'd make sure not to have any unpaid debts that are registered with Pan European Debt collectors.

If you have a television (even an old analogue one which can't receive a signal), you have to pay a TV Licence.

If you don't pay the licence, you can go to jail.

Therefore, nobody should own a television, right?

Or, maybe every Bargain Alert about a TV deal should be spammed with people crying "Don't get a TV, you can be landed on the hook for a licence and GO TO JAIL!!!one!! What if your TV gets stolen, then you have to buy a new one!!!! Go to Power City and fish someone's old one out of the WEEE recycling bin!!".

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 1:24pm

MOH wrote: »

Cheers to the OP for the alert. But if you're going for this deal, check the T+Cs *very* carefully and keep a copy of the current T+Cs.

I got a HTC One on a similar deal early last year. Store price monthly was higher than the 'online exclusive' monthly price, 18 month contract.

After 12 months Meteor put the monthly price up to the original 'store price'. They claimed that the cheaper monthly rate was a discount applicable for the first 12 months only. This despite me sending them links to archived copies of their T+Cs valid at the time I signed up which stated no such thing. I also had an email from them relating to a query on my first bill in which they'd gone into detail on exactly how I was being charged, again with no mention of the 'discount' being temporary.

They kept insisting that I'd agreed to this at signup, and kept sending me links to non existent T+C pages. They sent an internal archive of a brochure-type page which I'd never seen, wasn't part of the T+Cs anyway, was contradicted by at least two of the sources I'd sent them, and was dated over a year before my contract began.

After I'd cancelled my direct debit and written to their customer services manager, they eventually cancelled the overcharge and applied the discount for the full period as a 'goodwill gesture', but refused to accept that they were wrong.

This is the first genuinely useful response to this thread so far. I'm off to the Meteor forum to ask the question. Cheers MOH.

keithclancy · 13-08-2014 2:32pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

1)
Or, maybe every Bargain Alert about a TV deal should be spammed with people crying "Don't get a TV, you can be landed on the hook for a licence and GO TO JAIL!!!one!! What if your TV gets stolen, then you have to buy a new one!!!! Go to Power City and fish someone's old one out of the WEEE recycling bin!!".

Was merely pointing you that if you do not pay a debt with these debt collectors it can become a problem rather than your suggestion that nothing happens.

toby2111 · 13-08-2014 3:13pm

Let us know the answer to that question if you get it please slutmonkey.

By the way, good deal imo. Unfortunately, I'm tied into a contract until October. Hopefully they'll (or other providers) run something similar again.

Polar101 · 13-08-2014 4:47pm

I'm just out of contract (S3), so I was looking at this earlier. The problem with the Meteor plan seems to be that it's €31.20 a month (€39 without VAT), if you don't get out of bundle costs. But if you do, then they apply VAT and then it's suddenly €39 for the month (+ whatever fairly reasonable out-of-bundle costs).

At least that's what I think I found out after reading the Meteor forums. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong?

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 8:25pm

toby2111 wrote: »

Let us know the answer to that question if you get it please slutmonkey.

By the way, good deal imo. Unfortunately, I'm tied into a contract until October. Hopefully they'll (or other providers) run something similar again.

According to the rep here the price is supposed to be valid for 24 months.

Further, he states that they cannot move you to a new tariff without your permission. That is in line with what has happened to people with other companies who decide to retire a tariff (including the likes of UPC). If they retire this one, they're introducing a change in T&C's substantial enough that you have the right to refuse. Whether you'd get to keep the phone in that case probably depends on how long is left on the original contract.

Not to say that any Irish company *wouldn't* make a balls of things and change tariffs on people, but with SEPA you can block or limit the amount of a DD and there's nothing Meteor or anyone else can do about it, so there's an element of safety that wasn't there before. Seems safe enough

Slutmonkey57b · 13-08-2014 8:31pm

keithclancy wrote: »

Was merely pointing you that if you do not pay a debt with these debt collectors it can become a problem rather than your suggestion that nothing happens.

Nor is it the world ending scenario which it is being painted. What I originally said was that a debtor in that situation would not be concerned with their mobile phone debt of 30 quid a month in comparison to, say, feeding their family. Which is a pretty reasonable summation.

Reasonableness doesn't seem to go down too well with a certain brand of "contracts are syphilitic awfulness it burrrrrns...... I'm out of credit can I borrow your phone?" poster.

Galaxy S5 €50 up front, €798 over 2 years

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