Galaxy S5 €50 up front, €798 over 2 years

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 2:24pm #1

As per the title, Meteor are doing the Galaxy s5 on discounted Bill pay rate of 31.20 per month and €50 up front.
Here.

On the same offer, they're charging €99 for the S4 and €149 for the M8.

400 texts/minutes/1gb data is a pretty good rate for most users I think.

Offer ends on the 31st of August.

Notes:
For the "weeeh I only buy sim free, contracts are a rip off blah blah" crowd, assuming you can get an S5 for €530 unlocked (the lowest price I've seen it for lately) then the equivalent sim-free price over 24 months is €770, assuming you top up or are on a sim only plan for €10 a month, which I think is a reasonable assuption. You're not going to get a phone and then fail to use it as a phone at some point during the month.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 12-08-2014 2:32pm

Doesn't really sound like a bargain?!

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 2:37pm

Can you find it cheaper anywhere else?

It's cheap both in terms of up front cost and overall 2-year cost.

Phone Plan Upfront Period Monthly Total
S5 Sim Free € 530.00 24 € 10.00 €770.00
s5 Meteor € 50.00 24 € 31.20 €798.80
S5 Meteor € 399.00 24 € 19.00 €855.00
S5 Meteor € 249.00 24 € 29.00 €945.00
S5 Tesco € 260.00 24 € 30.00 €980.00
S5 Vodafone € 180.00 24 € 35.00 €1,020.00
S5 Three € 99.00 24 € 40.66 €1,074.84
s5 Meteor € 50.00 24 € 49.00 €1,226.00
S5 Vodafone € 80.00 24 € 55.00 €1,400.00
S5 Tesco € 200.00 24 € 50.00 €1,400.00
S5 Meteor € 0.00 24 € 59.00 €1,416.00
S5 Three € 129.00 24 € 55.00 €1,449.00

TheDriver · 12-08-2014 2:38pm

Why would any bit of mobile be worth that??

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 2:39pm

*shrug* If you don't want or need a new <insert type of thing here> nothing is a bargain.

If someone is in the market for a new phone, they might be interested. No skin off my nose.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 2:40pm

I'd run a mile from a 2yr contract with any provider. Besides that the phone is already a dinosaur by the time you've actually paid for it

thomas anderson. · 12-08-2014 2:42pm

Who in their right mind would pay €850 for a phone?

Kenny Logins · 12-08-2014 2:43pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

Who in their right mind would pay €850 for a phone?

All of the people that signed up for 'free' iPhones..?

12-08-2014 2:43pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

Who in their right mind would pay €850 for a phone?

Ask Apple, they've identified quite a lot of them.

thomas anderson. · 12-08-2014 2:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ask Apple, they've identified quite a lot of them.

Jesus wept

TerrorFirmer · 12-08-2014 2:47pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Doesn't really sound like a bargain?!

It's a good deal for someone looking for an S5 on contract.

I'd run a mile from a 2yr contract with any provider. Besides that the phone is already a dinosaur by the time you've actually paid for it

Bit sensationalist. The iPhone 5 will be two years old next month. Would you call that a dinosaur? The iPhone 4 is four years old and even that's not really considered a dinosaur and still sells for good money 2nd hand.

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 2:48pm

same ol sh1te wrote: »

I'd run a mile from a 2yr contract with any provider. Besides that the phone is already a dinosaur by the time you've actually paid for it

Didn't I cover that in the "waaah no contracts" note? And over the course of 2 years, how much do you spend on pay as you go topups? Not everyone has the cash to buy a new phone outright. Equally, most people don't change networks every day of the week and generally don't change unless they have to.

And most technology is obsolete by the time it goes to manufacturing, so that complaint simply isn't interesting either.

If someone is in the market for a new phone, wants a good one, and does not have a lot of cash up front, this is a good deal.

As to "€850 for a phone lol wut" crowd, clearly your skill at mathematics isn't any better than the apple users you're ridiculing. The total cost of ownership over a 2 year period is calculated above for you.

You contract dodging sim-free crowd are saving a whole €28.20 over 2 years. Oooooh you savvy savers you.

Mezcita · 12-08-2014 2:57pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

You contract dodging sim-free crowd are saving a whole €28.20 over 2 years. Oooooh you savvy savers you.

You are assuming that other people would happily spend €530 for a phone up front. Total madness IMO.

People should go take a look at the Chinese Android Phones thread over on the Android forum. Much better phones at substantially lower prices.

justsomebloke · 12-08-2014 2:58pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

Who in their right mind would pay €850 for a phone?

nobody in this case, because your not paying €850 for a phone. Simple maths would indicate that you take the cost of similar 2 year sim free plan away from the €850 and that would give you the actual cost of the phone on this plan.

sue97 · 12-08-2014 2:59pm

I think its a good offer

deadanonymau5 · 12-08-2014 2:59pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Can you find it cheaper anywhere else?

It's cheap both in terms of up front cost and overall 2-year cost.

Phone Plan Upfront Period Monthly Total
S5 Sim Free € 530.00 24 € 10.00 €770.00
s5 Meteor € 50.00 24 € 31.20 €798.80
S5 Meteor € 399.00 24 € 19.00 €855.00
S5 Meteor € 249.00 24 € 29.00 €945.00
S5 Tesco € 260.00 24 € 30.00 €980.00
S5 Vodafone € 180.00 24 € 35.00 €1,020.00
S5 Three € 99.00 24 € 40.66 €1,074.84
s5 Meteor € 50.00 24 € 49.00 €1,226.00
S5 Vodafone € 80.00 24 € 55.00 €1,400.00
S5 Tesco € 200.00 24 € 50.00 €1,400.00
S5 Meteor € 0.00 24 € 59.00 €1,416.00
S5 Three € 129.00 24 € 55.00 €1,449.00

Where did you see it for 530 sim free?

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 3:04pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

It's a good deal for someone looking for an S5 on contract.

Bit sensationalist. The iPhone 5 will be two years old next month. Would you call that a dinosaur? The iPhone 4 is four years old and even that's not really considered a dinosaur and still sells for good money 2nd hand.

Not sure why you're comparing iPhones to Android, the galaxy S3 is 2 yrs old pretty much a dinosaur as Samsung aren't releasing any more official updates for it.

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 3:06pm

Mezcita wrote: »

You are assuming that other people would happily spend €530 for a phone up front. Total madness IMO.

No, I'm assuming that someone who wants this phone sim free would pay that for it. People on the android forum here are paying that for phones sim free.

And I agree, I wouldn't pay ~500 for a phone up front, which is why I think this deal is a good balance between TCO and up front cost.

As to chinese androids, all well and good but what about long term build quality, returns process, merchant reputability etc? If the ebay merchant who sold it disappears tomorrow, is it easy to get a repair or replacement done? There are tradeoffs with everything.

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

Where did you see it for 530 sim free?

http://www.gsmnation.co.uk/ from a bargain alert on here.

Has also been around that price on various European versions of Amazon.

Wile E. Coyote · 12-08-2014 3:09pm

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

Fresh Pots · 12-08-2014 3:11pm

When I seen the title of this thread I actually thought someone was having a laugh.Anyone else?

thomas anderson. · 12-08-2014 3:11pm

My phone was free and pay €20 a month

Slutmonkey57b · 12-08-2014 3:12pm

Good for you.

I'm unfollowing this thread, knock yourselves out.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 3:14pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

Nexus 5 bought in the States for $350 and the €10 pm 48 network deal
http://48months.ie/

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:15pm

Mezcita wrote: »

You are assuming that other people would happily spend €530 for a phone up front. Total madness IMO.

People should go take a look at the Chinese Android Phones thread over on the Android forum. Much better phones at substantially lower prices.

Much better phones? No, absolutely not I'm afraid.
Lower price? Yes, for a reason.
You get what you pay for, I'm not a fan of Samsung in the slightest but few Chinese models come close, e.g. The oneplusone might be a great spec, but you need an invite and reviews are very poor.

This deal is a bargain for those who want the S5 without the initial outlay. In 2 years time, this phone would still make €100+ on adverts. A Chinese equivalent in 2 years is worthless. So all this needs to be considered.

For what its worth, Best value phone Ive found is the Lumia 625 I bought for €99, with €25 Store credit and 3 months Xbox Live Membership. There are some android apps I miss but ill just buy an android box for the TV which will sort that....

duffman13 · 12-08-2014 3:17pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

My phone was free and pay €20 a month

Brilliant

If anyone doesn't think this is a bargain for an s5 then ignore it or challenge the op referencing a better value deal elsewhere. Very good deal IMO.

Just because you personally wouldn't pay x for a phone doesn't mean many others won't.

Fresh Pots · 12-08-2014 3:18pm

thomas anderson. wrote: »

My phone was free and pay €20 a month

Not really a fair arguement unless it's a s5 or comparable which it won't be if its free. That said I'd never pay that much for a phone.

Fresh Pots · 12-08-2014 3:21pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

Nexus 4,€206 last September and €20 3pay every 40 days or there abouts.

Kenny Logins · 12-08-2014 3:24pm

Fresh Pots wrote: »

When I seen the title of this thread I actually thought someone was having a laugh.Anyone else?

How many people do you know that have iPhones?

Seriously, add it up - they were often advertised as 'free' but with 24 month contracts costing €40 to €whatever per month.

€55 x 24 = €1320

http://www.three.ie/shop/phones/iphone-5c/

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:24pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

Think type of plan is important too...
I'm on 30 day contract,€24pm, includes all texts and calls to all, 5gig of 4G data. Sim free phone cost 99.

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:32pm

Fresh Pots wrote: »

Nexus 4,€206 last September and €20 3pay every 40 days or there abouts.

Over 2 years then:
Phone:€206
Plan:€20*19(approx usage) =€380

Therefore your deal is €586 over 2years, for an inferior handset. In 2 years, the S5 will be worth a lot more than the nexus so evens out. Hmmm, makes you think

jive · 12-08-2014 3:33pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

I haven't posted in this thread but as a comparison I got a Nexus 4 for €206 about a year ago and pay €10 a month, pay-as-you-go, on 48. So €206 up front and €240 over 2 years (assuming I pay for every month, which I dont as when I go travelling I just use skype/viber) which is €446. S5 comes to €848 and you have to pay every month regardless (not an issue for some people but a 2 year contract is not viable for me).

So the S5 is a minimum of €402 more expensive than the Nexus 4. If you are in the market for that particular phone then I agree that it is a bargain, however it's definitely not frugal or value for money when you consider other phones on the market.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 12-08-2014 3:33pm

bidiots wrote: »

Over 2 years then:
Phone:€206
Plan:€20*19(approx usage) =€380

Therefore your deal is €586 over 2years, for an inferior handset. In 2 years, the S5 will be worth a lot more than the nexus so evens out. Hmmm, makes you think

Nexus 4 > S5

Rucking_Fetard · 12-08-2014 3:34pm

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057254174/1/#post91684654

Big Nelly · 12-08-2014 3:36pm

Ok I laugh at the people here posting about only using 20 euro credit every 40 days etc. I would use 20 euro credit in a day, my mobile bills where never under 250 euro just for calls/text so an offer where you get free call/texts for €49 euro with a proper smart phone for €49 euro is a bargain.

I would recommend this to alot of people I know who use mobile for work

I wont be talking to my kid who uses about 20 euro credit every 1-2 months because it is not for him

But I didn't think the bargains forum had a requirement that every bargain had to suit everyone's specific situation

If you don't think it is bargain well then move on.....why you would bother posting about how little you spend each month on your phone is just wasting your time and everyone else's who wants to read the thread

Not my fault you have no friends to ring so you don't spend money on your mobile :-)

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:37pm

jive wrote: »

I haven't posted in this thread but as a comparison I got a Nexus 4 for €206 about a year ago and pay €10 a month, pay-as-you-go, on 48. So €206 up front and €240 over 2 years (assuming I pay for every month, which I dont as when I go travelling I just use skype/viber) which is €446. S5 comes to €848 and you have to pay every month regardless (not an issue for some people but a 2 year contract is not viable for me).

So the S5 is a minimum of €402 more expensive than the Nexus 4. If you are in the market for that particular phone then I agree that it is a bargain, however it's definitely not frugal or value for money when you consider other phones on the market.

Yep, but you had initial outlay of 250, not just 50. Plus the S5 will be worth a LOT more after 2 years.

Mezcita · 12-08-2014 3:40pm

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

No, I'm assuming that someone who wants this phone sim free would pay that for it. People on the android forum here are paying that for phones sim free.

And I agree, I wouldn't pay ~500 for a phone up front, which is why I think this deal is a good balance between TCO and up front cost.

As to chinese androids, all well and good but what about long term build quality, returns process, merchant reputability etc? If the ebay merchant who sold it disappears tomorrow, is it easy to get a repair or replacement done? There are tradeoffs with everything.

Ok so to clarify for this specific phone it's a good price. But my argument would be that you could get a phone with an equal or better spec at a much lower price over the same two year period.

Regarding Chinese phones, it's that specific thing which the likes of 02, Meteor rely on in order to get people buying into two year deals. People know Samsung, Apple etc so they buy them.

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

For the people moaning that it's not a bargain/not worth it - What phone are you currently using, how much did it cost you and how much do you spend a month?

http://www.androidauthority.com/review-of-thl-5000-410058/

€250 delivery from Gearbest. €10 a month deal from 48 for 300 minutes, unlimited texts, 60 landline minutes and 1 gig of data. €490 over a two year period.

same ol sh1te · 12-08-2014 3:41pm

bidiots wrote: »

Yep, but you had initial outlay of 250, not just 50. Plus the S5 will be worth a LOT more after 2 years.

It will be worth very little, the S3 is 2 yrs old and can be bought new, with a warranty and SIM free for €150 making a second hand S3 worth about 80 quid

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:42pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Nexus 4 > S5

adrian522 · 12-08-2014 3:42pm

bidiots wrote: »

, e.g. The oneplusone might be a great spec, but you need an invite and reviews are very poor.

.

Any reviews I've read of that phone have been very positive. Don't know where you are seeing these very poor reviews.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review

http://www.engadget.com/products/oneplus/one/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/oneplus-one_Mobile-Phone_review

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/oneplus-one-review-greatest-smartphone-youve-never-heard-cant-buy-1458896

http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-reviews-6327.php

martineatworld · 12-08-2014 3:45pm

bidiots wrote: »

Much better phones? No, absolutely not I'm afraid.
Lower price? Yes, for a reason.
You get what you pay for, I'm not a fan of Samsung in the slightest but few Chinese models come close, e.g. The oneplusone might be a great spec, but you need an invite and reviews are very poor.

Where exactly are you seeing poor reviews for the one plus...? Techradar rate it as better than the s5.

You can also purchase the phone without an invite from resellers

Mezcita · 12-08-2014 3:46pm

bidiots wrote: »

Much better phones? No, absolutely not I'm afraid.
Lower price? Yes, for a reason.
You get what you pay for, I'm not a fan of Samsung in the slightest but few Chinese models come close, e.g. The oneplusone might be a great spec, but you need an invite and reviews are very poor.

Poor reviews for the OnePlus One!??! No.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/best-android-phone-which-should-you-buy-717819/2#articleContent

My question is are these "known" brands 50% better in terms of performance when compared to their competition? Not at all. Give it time, once the like of Xiaomi start making some serious inroads throughout Europe we'll start seeing some decent price competition.

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:48pm

Was thinking of purchasing some months back but after research, decided not too. But if your research says otherwise, then off you go and buy it, all the best.
No idea why I'm defending this thread to be honest, if you think its a bargain, then great, if not, then I've tried to show you how it can be. All/most against this deal have initial outlays for their handset, in the hundreds. For those that can't afford this outlay, this deal is a bargain.

charlie_says · 12-08-2014 3:49pm

I bought a new Note 2 outright for e280 in a VF retail shop saying that though I did get e100 off for my broken GS2 - it booted though so they gave me the cashback.

e32 pcm for unlimited calls and texts and 15GB of data from emobile. I need the unlimited calls for work. SIM only rolling contract so you get the flexibility to ditch it if a really good offer comes by.

Great value. I actually think nobody really needs the latest generation of smartphones. Stick with the previous generation and save a packet for a 99% same functionality wise experience.

The OP's offer is pretty good, but I personally shy away from more than a 1 year contract.

Just my opinion of course

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:50pm

Mezcita wrote: »

Poor reviews for the OnePlus One!??! No.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/best-android-phone-which-should-you-buy-717819/2#articleContent

My question is are these "known" brands 50% better in terms of performance when compared to their competition? Not at all. Give it time, once the like of Xiaomi start making some serious inroads throughout Europe we'll start seeing some serious price competition.

Listen, go to the start of the Chinese Android Thread and see who has the first few posts;)
Yes, the chinese brands are gaining traction and will have a say, but not there yet....

2smiggy · 12-08-2014 3:53pm

bidiots · 12-08-2014 3:54pm

martineatworld wrote: »

Where exactly are you seeing poor reviews for the one plus...? Techradar rate it as better than the s5.

You can also purchase the phone without an invite from resellers

Haven't even looked at it in months so the invite system is probably finished with, maybe the latest handsets have ironed out the issues that turned me off.
Again, not sure why I'm bothering defending the thread, I'm a happy (cheap)lumia owner now:D

Mezcita · 12-08-2014 3:58pm

bidiots wrote: »

Listen, go to the start of the Chinese Android Thread and see who has the first few posts;)
Yes, the chinese brands are gaining traction and will have a say, but not there yet....

Good for you. Odd that you thought the OnePlus One was not decent then. Have a smiley.

bidiots · 12-08-2014 4:01pm

Mezcita wrote: »

Good for you. Odd that you thought the OnePlus One was not decent then. Have a smiley.

Aye, covered above;)

Also, I don't believe everything I read when it comes to 'Specs' with Chinese brands, an experienced cynic Im afraid.

dilallio · 12-08-2014 4:05pm

http://www.gsmnation.co.uk/phones/samsung-galaxy-s5-unlocked-lte.html

£425 Sterling ~ €535

and it's unlocked

TakeTheVeil · 12-08-2014 4:05pm

Whatever about the money - The Samsung S5 is absolutely horrible to hold in hand. The silver bumper is very plastic-y and feels incredibly cheap, while the faux-leather back does not do it for me. I couldnt believe it when I first held it.

I would really recommend the HTC M8 over the Samsung S5 - or at least get the S5 in your hand before committing.

jive · 12-08-2014 4:10pm

bidiots wrote: »

Yep, but you had initial outlay of 250, not just 50. Plus the S5 will be worth a LOT more after 2 years.

A €156 greater initial outlay for an overall saving of €402. Will the S5 be worth that much more in 2 years? Are there many people in the market for 2 year old phones? iPhones are the only phones that really hold their value.

Let's say the nexus depreciates by 75% and the S5 by 50%. Assuming the value of the S5 is €500 and the Nexus €200. In theory I'll sell my Nexus for €50 and the S5 is worth €250 after 2 years (I'm being very generous with the figures here) then you'll still be €202 better off buying the Nexus 4 and have no ties to a contract.

Like I said it's a bargain if you want the S5 but the S5 itself is not value for money when looking at the competitors, IMO.

Galaxy S5 €50 up front, €798 over 2 years

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