IEC Visa Refusal

GGirl2010 · 02-02-2011 10:47pm

tenchi-fan wrote: »

Personally, I think agencies are a waste of time. But, for some reason a lot of people get confused when filling out large volumes of paperwork. I don't think we can blame the embassy for that.

As for police certs, they're valid for 3 months from the date you SUBMIT your application.. see here

From this link it's quite clear that copies aren't accepted, otherwise it would have said. It goes as far as to say if your police cert is not in English, you should submit it with an original copy of a translation. An original copy means an original by the way!

However if you're applying for a second visa and currently in Canada on a working holiday visa, your original police cert is valid provided it's still in date one year after they review your application! Once again its easy to see how that may cause confusion

em yes.. Oh that was strange, you mean they asked for the police certificate on the plane?? . Yeah this year they didnt state anything about copies not accepted!!! for police certificate that is . Yes 3 months for police certificate. I dont get the one year after in date thing..

tenchi-fan · 02-02-2011 11:03pm

can2011 wrote: »

Did you tick the box asking whether you had 'ever applied for a canadian immigration visa' and if so what did you put in the box asking for details? Also, what did you put for the question asking 'if you do not live in your country of birth, what year did you leave?'.

I ticked "yes" and wrote "currently on swap/u35 1 year open employment visa. it expires in Nov 2011. Irish citizens are allowed to apply to the iec visa even if they previously participated on a working holiday maker programme."

regarding "if you no longer live in the country of your birth, what year did you leave.. I wrote "November 2010 (to visit canada)"

I also included a copy of my police cert and wrote on it "Please note, this is a copy. The original was submitted to usit/London embassy in 2010 and is still valid. I am currently in canada and unable to obtain a new one".. in retrospect, i should have left out "unable to" and instead wrote "not required to".

All in all, yes I jotted down a few extra notes but I just wanted to make sure everything went as smooth as possible, and that they thought twice before rejecting it.

It passed the first check, now i just need to arrange payment and it will go to the next stage.

can2011 · 02-02-2011 11:13pm

tenchi-fan wrote: »

I ticked "yes" and wrote "currently on swap/u35 1 year open employment visa. it expires in Nov 2011. Irish citizens are allowed to apply to the iec visa even if they previously participated on a working holiday maker programme."

regarding "if you no longer live in the country of your birth, what year did you leave.. I wrote "November 2011 (to visit canada)"

I also included a copy of my police cert and wrote on it "Please note, this is a copy. The original was submitted to usit/London embassy in 2010 and is still valid. I am currently in canada and unable to obtain a new one".. in retrospect, i should have left out "unable to" and instead wrote "not required to".

All in all, yes I jotted down a few extra notes but I just wanted to make sure everything went as smooth as possible, and that they thought twice before rejecting it.

It passed the first check, now i just need to arrange payment and it will go to the next stage.

I had to write in my middle name to the download certificate and had to write in Irish as nationality on the form - do you think that is why?

tenchi-fan · 02-02-2011 11:23pm

can2011 wrote: »

I had to write in my middle name to the download certificate and had to write in Irish as nationality on the form - do you think that is why?

No, I also made a handwritten amendment on the form. You're allowed to.
Chances are you made some other mistake.

Jimmmy McNulty · 02-02-2011 11:30pm

tenchi-fan wrote: »

I ticked "yes" and wrote "currently on swap/u35 1 year open employment visa. it expires in Nov 2011. Irish citizens are allowed to apply to the iec visa even if they previously participated on a working holiday maker programme."

regarding "if you no longer live in the country of your birth, what year did you leave.. I wrote "November 2010 (to visit canada)"

I also included a copy of my police cert and wrote on it "Please note, this is a copy. The original was submitted to usit/London embassy in 2010 and is still valid. I am currently in canada and unable to obtain a new one".. in retrospect, i should have left out "unable to" and instead wrote "not required to".

All in all, yes I jotted down a few extra notes but I just wanted to make sure everything went as smooth as possible, and that they thought twice before rejecting it.

It passed the first check, now i just need to arrange payment and it will go to the next stage.

Good answers. may as well spell it out for them!

jimmybeige · 02-02-2011 11:50pm

tenchi-fan wrote: »

Regarding the DECLARATION FORM -It is mandatory that you tick each of the boxes (someone on here didn't and their application was declined).

Is it definite you have to tick all the boxes?

I acknowledge that my dependent(s) (i.e. wife/husband, child/children) can NOT accompany me to Canada under this program. My dependent(s) must submit a separate application to enter Canada; for example, as an IEC initiative participant, visitor, student or worker. (If you do not have any dependents, instead of ticking the box, please write “N/A” over it, by hand.)

The above would suggest that you do not tick this box unless you have dependents and instead write N/A.

can2011 · 02-02-2011 11:50pm

Jimmmy McNulty wrote: »

Good answers. may as well spell it out for them!

Did you receive your application?

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 12:04am

jimmybeige wrote: »

Is it definite you have to tick all the boxes?

The above would suggest that you do not tick this box unless you have dependents and instead write N/A.

Em.. if you had ticked this box than it would be correct as you are agreeing to your wife/husband/kids to apply seperatly and to not accompany you.

jimmybeige · 03-02-2011 12:06am

GGirl2010 wrote: »

Em.. if you had ticked this box than it would be correct as you are agreeing to your wife/husband/kids to apply seperatly and to not accompany you.

If you have a wife/husband/kids. If not, it states not to tick he box:

If you do not have any dependents, instead of ticking the box, please write “N/A” over it, by hand.

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 12:12am

jimmybeige wrote: »

If you have a wife/husband/kids. If not, it states not to tick he box:

yes ..

jimmybeige · 03-02-2011 12:15am

Just confirming! Just trying to see what everyone else did for that. I'm assuming it's not a big deal either way. Starting to question everything I did at this stage in case there's an error.

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 12:22am

jimmybeige wrote: »

Just confirming! Just trying to see what everyone else did for that. I'm assuming it's not a big deal either way. Starting to question everything I did at this stage in case there's an error.

k..

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 12:29am

techi-fan.. can i ask a qs. just wondering for a second year for canada work visa,do they ask for police certificate? i mean how is that possible from home , do you have to ring them up and get them to send it out to canada where your at? and also if one made a crime in canada why would this be needed,as they would be kicked out anyway. Anyway personally thats what i think.

tenchi-fan · 03-02-2011 1:46am

jimmybeige wrote: »

Is it definite you have to tick all the boxes?

The above would suggest that you do not tick this box unless you have dependents and instead write N/A.

Yes, you tick all the boxes apart from the one that you write N/A over.

Jimmmy McNulty · 03-02-2011 2:35am

can2011 wrote: »

Did you receive your application?

Nope! It hasn't come back to me yet! I'm in Toronto so it will probably take ages.. Such a joke that they expect me to wait around while it fills up! I have viewed so many applications of my friends who were successful and it is identical to mine!!!

One of my friends said on his form that he currently lives in Ireland and is currently employed in Canada.. I wonder are they even reading these forms at all?!

I'm so pissed off with it all now! I resubmitted an application which is essentially identical to my first so I'm just hoping I'm lucky this time!

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 2:47am

Jimmmy McNulty wrote: »

Nope! It hasn't come back to me yet! I'm in Toronto so it will probably take ages.. Such a joke that they expect me to wait around while it fills up! I have viewed so many applications of my friends who were successful and it is identical to mine!!!

One of my friends said on his form that he currently lives in Ireland and is currently employed in Canada.. I wonder are they even reading these forms at all?!

I'm so pissed off with it all now! I resubmitted an application which is essentially identical to my first so I'm just hoping I'm lucky this time!

Did oyu have to submit police certificate?

Jimmmy McNulty · 03-02-2011 5:08pm

GGirl2010 wrote: »

Did oyu have to submit police certificate?

I submitted a photcopy of it. It actually comes out much clearer than the original and I wanted to hold on to the original..

They don't say anywhere that they want any originals.

If they want originals, they need to specify that, not say that photocopies are alright, that you don’t need to certify them, and that no documents will be returned.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 5:39pm

Right, a few questions as im just waiting on my police cert then posting it off to Paris...

1) For the bank account part, im under the impression I just go in to my bank and get the downloaded form stamped and dated by a bank clerk? Im thrown off by your mentioning of a 'confirmation letter' from the bank

2) For the organisations part, I wrote im my GAA club - as im not in any political organisations etc.... Would I be best off just print out this sheet again and leave it blank??

eamog1888 · 03-02-2011 5:45pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

Right, a few questions as im just waiting on my police cert then posting it off to Paris...

1) For the bank account part, im under the impression I just go in to my bank and get the downloaded form stamped and dated by a bank clerk? Im thrown off by your mentioning of a 'confirmation letter' from the bank

2) For the organisations part, I wrote im my GAA club - as im not in any political organisations etc.... Would I be best off just print out this sheet again and leave it blank??

1. i just filled out the form and got it stamped and signed

2. i left it blank, theres no real need...they'll probably wont even know what that is...

Jimmmy McNulty · 03-02-2011 5:46pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

Right, a few questions as im just waiting on my police cert then posting it off to Paris...

1) For the bank account part, im under the impression I just go in to my bank and get the downloaded form stamped and dated by a bank clerk? Im thrown off by your mentioning of a 'confirmation letter' from the bank

2) For the organisations part, I wrote im my GAA club - as im not in any political organisations etc.... Would I be best off just print out this sheet again and leave it blank??

Are you at the stage where they are allowing you to pay?

You can leave it blank or out in the GAA. I don't it will matter. I'm a CA so I said I was a member of that for example.

Jimmmy McNulty · 03-02-2011 5:49pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

Right, a few questions as im just waiting on my police cert then posting it off to Paris...

1) For the bank account part, im under the impression I just go in to my bank and get the downloaded form stamped and dated by a bank clerk? Im thrown off by your mentioning of a 'confirmation letter' from the bank

2) For the organisations part, I wrote im my GAA club - as im not in any political organisations etc.... Would I be best off just print out this sheet again and leave it blank??

Sorry misunderstood your first question. I got the bank to fill out the form they provide. I don't think a confirmation letter is necessary. They don't say it is anyway. I think the bank stamps the top with one that has the branch name, address and they stamp their seal in the bottom right hand corner of the form. They also fill it out and sign it.

C@non · 03-02-2011 6:11pm

GGirl2010 wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by GGirl2010 View Post
Em.. if you had ticked this box than it would be correct as you are agreeing to your wife/husband/kids to apply seperatly and to not accompany you.
If you have a wife/husband/kids. If not, it states not to tick he box:

Quote:
If you do not have any dependents, instead of ticking the box, please write “N/A” over it, by hand. .

what if you tick all boxes and forget to un-tick that particular one and not write N/A??

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 6:12pm

Jimmmy McNulty wrote: »

Sorry misunderstood your first question. I got the bank to fill out the form they provide. I don't think a confirmation letter is necessary. They don't say it is anyway. I think the bank stamps the top with one that has the branch name, address and they stamp their seal in the bottom right hand corner of the form. They also fill it out and sign it.

Sound.

Also, in the additional information section, did everyone put down their parents details? I did, and put a stroke through the spouse section. Im a bit thrown off as why would they need to know this, given i've an irish passport

tenchi-fan · 03-02-2011 6:12pm

C@non wrote: »

what if you tick all boxes and forget to un-tick that particular one and not write N/A??

probably nothing.
You missed an instruction on the form. hopefully they'll let you off with it. i doubt they'd disqualify you for that.

C@non · 03-02-2011 6:18pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

Sound.

Also, in the additional information section, did everyone put down their parents details? I did, and put a stroke through the spouse section. Im a bit thrown off as why would they need to know this, given i've an irish passport

I put none over spouse and they told me i had to put deceased as my dad died a few years ago on his address.. i told them if they were messing.. they said now dead serious!! only because it was a good few years ago and im ok with it now i let them off but was bad choice of words.. But apart from that i was kind of shocked to see how picky they are with this application.. but hopefully its all canadian's working in there and not rude local.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 6:27pm

C@non wrote: »

I put none over spouse and they told me i had to put deceased as my dad died a few years ago on his address.. i told them if they were messing.. they said now dead serious!! only because it was a good few years ago and im ok with it now i let them off but was bad choice of words.. But apart from that i was kind of shocked to see how picky they are with this application.. but hopefully its all canadian's working in there and not rude local.

my writing is **** so they'll have a tough time trying to read rural townland placenames

tenchi-fan · 03-02-2011 6:41pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

my writing is **** so they'll have a tough time trying to read rural townland placenames

Which is why they prefer the form to be typed. if they can't read it it will get declined.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 6:47pm

how can you type on that? there's no room to write in block capital, plus its only a ****ty photocopy that you can download anyways.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 7:06pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

how can you type on that? there's no room to write in block capital, plus its only a ****ty photocopy that you can download anyways.

BTW, im referring to the 'additional information' part....

Did anyone have any difficulty writing in these small boxes?

GGirl2010 · 03-02-2011 7:31pm

Jimmmy McNulty wrote: »

I submitted a photcopy of it. It actually comes out much clearer than the original and I wanted to hold on to the original..

They don't say anywhere that they want any originals.

If they want originals, they need to specify that, not say that photocopies are alright, that you don’t need to certify them, and that no documents will be returned.

Well unless someone.. calls that point up directly to them, you should just submit original police certificate. Just wondering when your in canada, do thye stil want you to get you to ring ireland, were you currently resided and get the gards to send it to canada is it?? that takes good few days, maby even more than a month for that.

tenchi-fan · 03-02-2011 7:46pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

BTW, im referring to the 'additional information' part....

Did anyone have any difficulty writing in these small boxes?

There's text fields over it.
And the text shrinks to fit.
Update your adobe reader if you are having problems.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 9:09pm

cheers, thanks for that. I had printed it out in order to write the details in.

One last question (hopefully). On the 1st page of the 3 page IEC form, where it asks you to click whether your spouse or children will come to canada with you, do you click on No if you havent listed any spouse or children?

tenchi-fan · 03-02-2011 9:35pm

Adele Aggressive Sidebar wrote: »

cheers, thanks for that. I had printed it out in order to write the details in.

One last question (hopefully). On the 1st page of the 3 page IEC form, where it asks you to click whether your spouse or children will come to canada with you, do you click on No if you havent listed any spouse or children?

Ideally leave it blank. But if you already clicked "no", obviously leave it at no.
make sure to write N/a in any blank boxes (i just wrote "N/a" for surname in spouse, child 1 and child 2 and left the rest blank)

g5fd6ow0hseima · 03-02-2011 9:48pm

ill probably do that for all of them, even the one on page 2 of the IEC form where it asks for any name of a person you plan on visiting in Canada...

eamog1888 · 06-02-2011 6:39pm

sent off my poof of payment on friday morning so into the final stage

i know that a few sent off theres tues.weds..anyone get any more info or have everything completed??

the mail said they would send off for final check...wondering how long that will take

cheers;)

GGirl2010 · 06-02-2011 6:48pm

eamog1888 wrote: »

sent off my poof of payment on friday morning so into the final stage

i know that a few sent off theres tues.weds..anyone get any more info or have everything completed??

the mail said they would send off for final check...wondering how long that will take

cheers;)

jw.. do they want.. bank card numbers for this part?

eamog1888 · 06-02-2011 6:59pm

GGirl2010 wrote: »

jw.. do they want.. bank card numbers for this part?

sorry im not sure what you mean ( bare with me - severely hungover:o)

GGirl2010 · 06-02-2011 7:05pm

eamog1888 wrote: »

sorry im not sure what you mean ( bare with me - severely hungover:o)

for proof of payment.. for the visa.. 110 euro.. bank account numbers and sort code? or is it by bank dratf to their specified IEC account name.. and yes.. im hungover!!! also..

eamog1888 · 06-02-2011 7:13pm

GGirl2010 wrote: »

for proof of payment.. for the visa.. 110 euro.. bank account numbers and sort code? or is it by bank dratf to their specified IEC account name.. and yes.. im hungover!!! also..

im in AIB, so i just did it through paylink direct to their account...all the details are in the mail you get.....got the receipt stamped, banged my name, DOB and ID number on it and uploaded it to their address...pretty straight forward:cool:

GGirl2010 · 06-02-2011 7:22pm

eamog1888 wrote: »

im in AIB, so i just did it through paylink direct to their account...all the details are in the mail you get.....got the receipt stamped, banged my name, DOB and ID number on it and uploaded it to their address...pretty straight forward:cool:

ok... yeah tahts ok... Scan the receipt in then so... i dont know if i should eat.. hmm.... LOL.. might get something small in the kitchen.

do they not want the proof of payment not posted to them. LOL if were able to mail it. thats a first ..

SarahToronto · 06-02-2011 8:12pm

hi guys,
I'm applying for this IEC visa, I got all my paperwork, everything looked fine and i sent it off. I've not heard anything back yet, but it's not been long.
I just want to know, in the download certificate I didn't write my middle name. I know this is a small thing, but has that been a problem for people? I've written my middle name everywhere else in the forms.
Thanks,

beano345 · 06-02-2011 8:34pm

SarahToronto wrote: »

hi guys,
I'm applying for this IEC visa, I got all my paperwork, everything looked fine and i sent it off. I've not heard anything back yet, but it's not been long.
I just want to know, in the download certificate I didn't write my middle name. I know this is a small thing, but has that been a problem for people? I've written my middle name everywhere else in the forms.
Thanks,

i would'nt say they'll be that bad seems a lot of people have done this!when did your application arrive??

tenchi-fan · 06-02-2011 8:39pm

SarahToronto wrote: »

hi guys,
I'm applying for this IEC visa, I got all my paperwork, everything looked fine and i sent it off. I've not heard anything back yet, but it's not been long.
I just want to know, in the download certificate I didn't write my middle name. I know this is a small thing, but has that been a problem for people? I've written my middle name everywhere else in the forms.
Thanks,

This was a worry for me. I didn't put my middle name on any of the forms even though it's on my passport and bank confirmation letter. Turns out it didn't make a difference so don't worry about it!

jk86 · 06-02-2011 8:49pm

Looks like the "Additional form" is the reason I failed.

It really didn't look like it had text fields

Well, hopefully the form should be returned back in the post tomorrow

SarahToronto · 06-02-2011 9:29pm

Hi, tenchi-fan & beano345 thanks for that, i'm glad the middle name thing won't matter so much. phew!

jk86 · 07-02-2011 11:58am

How long have people been waiting for the return of refused applications?
I got my refusal email last Tuesday and I'm still waiting for the application to be sent back.

gustafo · 07-02-2011 1:10pm

jk86 wrote: »

How long have people been waiting for the return of refused applications?
I got my refusal email last Tuesday and I'm still waiting for the application to be sent back.

Same as me got my refusal email also last tuesday still no sign of it yet.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 07-02-2011 5:57pm

jk86 wrote: »

Looks like the "Additional form" is the reason I failed.

It really didn't look like it had text fields

Well, hopefully the form should be returned back in the post tomorrow

I had printed it out and filled it in my hand with my tiny writing but thankfully I mentioned this here and I was corrected. The quality of those pages uploaded on to their website for the additional information page is very bad, and really should be fixed.

GGirl2010 · 07-02-2011 6:23pm

jk86 wrote: »

Looks like the "Additional form" is the reason I failed.

It really didn't look like it had text fields

Well, hopefully the form should be returned back in the post tomorrow

2 to 3 days... and the additional information. this time do it on the pc. /laptop. there is feilds highlited in baby blue.... about 6 and 9 feilds. otherwise if your writing it out. try to number your feilds if there not clear. MAKE IT CLEAR doh...

C@non · 07-02-2011 6:40pm

Has any one sent the forms off and never heard back?? mine has been sent over 2 weeks ago now, and i never received a email or anything..

Wondering if they actually have it or not by now!! anyone in the same boat?

IEC Visa Refusal

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