CM Punk Thread

SlickRic · 28-07-2011 11:23am

good fúcking grief.

i suppose we don't know if HHH supported the idea of him pedigreeing the biggest thing in wrestling, or whether he had a part on vetoing it.

his 2003 behaviour makes us all believe this may be the case.

can you imagine?

in one foul swoop, all the aura and build you've put into this new potential megastar would have been destroyed.

and i don't think there's an ounce of hyperbole in that.

listening to the BS report, it seems Punk has a lot of say in what happens to his character now, so i don't think we're going to see any shíte happen to him.

most of those scripts would have been written by brown-nosers who are trying to suck up to HHH, and give him scripts that they think he will like and approve; ironically vindicating everything Punk has said

so, so happy they did what they did now.

and FWIW, i don't think Punk came back too early. he's better on TV than not, and Summerslam's coming. the one thing they could have maybe done is have him front row at the event as some suggested, but fúck it, i prefer Punk properly back.

the key now is Summerslam, and how it's booked. it doesn't matter if Punk wins so much, but it matters how he wins/loses. it might even be better to give it to Cena,

as Alberto is the plan for all intents and purposes.

...then have Punk focus on a feud (non-wrestling hopefully) with HHH.

and from what's been heard from Punk, he seems delighted to be back now, and actually seems to believe maybe that keeping him off TV for longer probably wouldn't have been the best idea.

rovert · 28-07-2011 11:29am

SlickRic wrote: »

listening to the BS report, it seems Punk has a lot of say in what happens to his character now, so i don't think we're going to see any shíte happen to him.

Punk also said he was dodging bullets all the time.

JP Liz V1 · 28-07-2011 11:30am

I hope Punk retains at Summerslam I think he deserves a lengthy reign

jaykhunter · 28-07-2011 11:39am

I hope so too. I really don't know if he'll escape the fued with Cena with the belt; but he really should - new stars need to be made and Punk's proven on the mic and in the ring. I guess it's up to HHH now. Hopefully Punk will be defending the WWE title at WM. But if it's against HHH it wouldn't need it...

flahavaj · 28-07-2011 11:56am

It shouldn't have been a Pedigree, it should've been a Pepsi Plunge onto the title belt. Would've been worth it for the internet reaction.:pac:

SlickRic · 28-07-2011 12:00pm

rovert wrote: »

Punk also said he was dodging bullets all the time.

i have faith that he'll continue to dodge them, because of the said sway he now has.

i honestly don't think he'd have signed if he didn't think he'd be able to have a level of control on the direction of his character.

Punk knows this is a vital period, and is his chance to really establish himself as the next thing.

he may have to work hard to do it, but he wouldn't have signed if he wasn't willing i don't think!

jaykhunter · 28-07-2011 1:04pm

I'd generally say "you're reading too much into this" but if Cult of Personality was Punk's theme, I'd say he chose it very carefully to represent his character.

Just wiki'ed "Cult of Personality". It's actually a term!

A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are usually associated with dictatorships. It is also asserted in everyday situations where popularity is used to advocate conformity to philosophies and lifestyles, even products and attitudes by way of peer pressure and herd mentality.

Well I thought that was interesting lol.

SlickRic · 28-07-2011 1:08pm

definitely.

he has said as much.

plus he's a great believer that if a character is taking a new direction, or goes to another level, then all the outside stuff about the character needs to change with it; including the music.

he's very considered.

even the way he came out through the curtain on Monday, geeing the crowd up etc, was a noticeable departure from his persona pre-MITB.

Pentecost · 28-07-2011 1:10pm

He said it in the podcast that the new theme is important to him and he believes it signifies the new level his character is now at. He also said for people to quit whining and just watch where they go with it over the next few weeks, it's only getting started!

Dr.Evil · 28-07-2011 1:15pm

I thought this quote from the article Tinie linked to was great;

He’s (Punk) allowed boards of directors and chief operating officers and a tournament full of guys and a backstage full of champagne sprayers and John f**king Cena to go through the motions so he can waltz back in with his ROH theme song and rub their pointlessness in their faces

CMpunked · 28-07-2011 1:30pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

"Cult of Personality". It's actually a term!
Well I thought that was interesting lol.

That would explain all the images of figureheads like nixon etc in his video.

rovert · 28-07-2011 1:40pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

I'd generally say "you're reading too much into this" but if Cult of Personality was Punk's theme, I'd say he chose it very carefully to represent his character.

Just wiki'ed "Cult of Personality". It's actually a term!
Well I thought that was interesting lol.

Someone didnt take Leaving Cert History :P

GTR63 · 28-07-2011 1:42pm

Apparently they are lining up Punk vs HHH at Mania next year.
Its mentioned almost randomly halfway through this link.
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Where_Is_Mike_Adamle_Triple_H_Heel_Turn_RAW_G.php
I'm looking forward to that if its true.

JP Liz V1 · 28-07-2011 1:44pm

GTR63 wrote: »

Apparently they are lining up Punk vs HHH at Mania next year.
Its mentioned almost randomly halfway through this link.
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Where_Is_Mike_Adamle_Triple_H_Heel_Turn_RAW_G.php
I'm looking forward to that if its true.

SCSA would have been better

rovert · 28-07-2011 1:45pm

GTR63 wrote: »

Apparently they are lining up Punk vs HHH at Mania next year.
Its mentioned almost randomly halfway through this link.
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Where_Is_Mike_Adamle_Triple_H_Heel_Turn_RAW_G.php
I'm looking forward to that if its true.

That wasnt in the Observer.

jaykhunter · 28-07-2011 1:47pm

Although it'd be awesome to do on the night, I'd imagine WWE would save Austin/Punk for next year's Mania. (And do Taker/Cena for WM30 for his 20-0/retirement)

rovert wrote: »

Someone didnt take Leaving Cert History

dropped history the day i finished my junior cert

GTR63 · 28-07-2011 1:49pm

rovert wrote: »

That wasnt in the Observer.

I'm only posting what i'm seeing,I wouldn't get my hopes up for Austin.Punk is a face now & I doubt they'll be turning him again anytime soon.

jaykhunter · 28-07-2011 1:52pm

Rock and Cena are both face and they're wrestling at Mania! Austin/Punk could just do the 'faces trying to turn each other heel' schtick which is frankly really awesome. Both would be crazy over.

GTR63 · 28-07-2011 1:58pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Rock and Cena are both face and they're wrestling at Mania! Austin/Punk could just do the 'faces trying to turn each other heel' schtick which is frankly really awesome. Both would be crazy over.

I can't see them doing 2 face vs face matches although the fans would love both matches. I think Austin vs Punk MAY happen somewhere down the line but right now i'd be suprised if it isn't Punk vs HHH at Mania or at least in one of the 83 cards wwe has for Mania in their head.

spiritcrusher · 28-07-2011 3:03pm

I hope the rumours of Punk - HHH at mania are true just so they've got a plan as to where this is all going!

Xinkai · 28-07-2011 4:01pm

EWrestling.com is a rubbish site to believe, the Editor/owner, Ryan Clark, is a pathetic excuse of a worm who makes stories up, or takes stories from other non-ifficially sourced websites. If it appears in Slam, THEN I'll believe it.

That said, Punk has been an absolute GOD this summer, I hope they leave the belt on him for a long, LONG time, maybe to Mania, maybe Backlash/Extreme rules and have him drop the belt to Tyler Reks

I boycotted WWE minus PPV's when they took the belt from Christian, I'd stop again if Punk drops to Cena especially after showing he has what it takes to beat Cena 1 on 1, AND he has what it takes to kick out of 2 AA's.

Long live Punk.

Africa · 29-07-2011 10:01am

He was on the Jimmy Kimmel Show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVCSN5sg5eQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuLNC9-isNg

SlickRic · 29-07-2011 12:21pm

Cena's basically going to be heel at Mania anyway.

so it wouldn't be 2 "face v face" matchups at all if Punk/SCSA happens.

Punk and Austin would be epic, no matter the dynamic.

let the fans choose.

parker kent · 29-07-2011 12:29pm

flahavaj wrote: »

It shouldn't have been a Pedigree, it should've been a Pepsi Plunge onto the title belt. Would've been worth it for the internet reaction.:pac:

There was a moment at MITB where I thought he was going to do it...I was on the verge of flipping out!

Edit: Punk that is, trying to ignore any horrible thoughts of the other potential plans for last Monday's Raw

Furious-Red · 29-07-2011 12:50pm

Ha the kid in the video predicted what happened on Raw ha

Garseys · 29-07-2011 3:52pm

Punk is on Bill Simmons latest podcast... Apparently Punk didn't sign until mid Sunday at MITB....:eek:

thebostoncrab · 29-07-2011 6:16pm

Garseys wrote: »

Punk is on Bill Simmons latest podcast... Apparently Punk didn't sign until mid Sunday at MITB....:eek:

It's a great interview, but considering how Punk answers some questions you have to wonder how much is kayfabe and how much is real (Like him not signing until MITB)

parker kent · 29-07-2011 6:20pm

I'd say Punk had already re-signed when he gave the promo on Raw saying he was leaving at MITB.

Lord TSC · 29-07-2011 6:40pm

TNA are now cashing in on Punk...

In the first of our new “TNA Archives” Superstar Series, next week CM Punk is coming to TNAOnDemand.com - the official online video provider of TNA Wrestling! Watch CM Punk's rare 2003-04 matches from our Nashville "Asylum" Pay-Per-View events, the beginning of TNA Wrestling!

Nearly three hours of matches, never before have these bouts from Punk's early career been rebroadcast in their entirety - UNTIL NOW! Watch as CM Punk battles Abyss, Raven, Terry Funk, Sabu, Shane Douglas and many more! Check back to IMPACTWRESTLING.com on Thursday to watch it, plus details on more upcoming “TNA Archives” Superstar Series specials. (artwork below courtesy of scottblairart.com)

jaykhunter · 29-07-2011 6:42pm

Yep. I'd imagine the latest he'd've signed was the day of him cutting the killer promo on Raw Roulette. I don't think the host even believed punk.

I really hope monday's raw puts us back on course with another killer performance. Although I've lowered my hopes when punk said the startling words "i'm dodging bullets here"......meaning he's doing the best he can compromising with other forces for the storyline, it's not ideal but he's pushing hard for it to be brilliant. Like it could've and would've been a lot worse if Punk wasn't so steadfast about his character. It's something i love about him.

DM_7 · 29-07-2011 6:42pm

Are those matches from the time he was feuding with Raven all over the place but his lacky in TNA?

rovert · 29-07-2011 8:02pm

Punk trolled TNA when they tried to sign him:

From PWInsider

In an interesting footnote, TNA made a play for Punk to return during the time period he was being pursued to sign his WWE deal. Punk's demand at the time was that TNA give him an hour on PPV against Samoa Joe (the two had a pair of phenomenal one hour draws in Ring of Honor), which TNA balked at the idea of doing

Lord TSC · 29-07-2011 8:38pm

THAT's why they didn't sign him? Jesus. Would have been the biggest show since Angle/Joe but hey, let's not bother giving the hottest thing in pro-wrestling a match which will make loads of money!

Pentecost · 29-07-2011 10:22pm

He probably wouldn't have signed anyway but they should've agreed to it. It could have been huge for them.

jaykhunter · 29-07-2011 10:27pm

Honestly I think Punk made it up for a laugh, he knows better than to deal with TNA. His future is in WWE and having an awful run in TNA would damage his future with WWE.

rovert · 29-07-2011 10:31pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

THAT's why they didn't sign him? Jesus. Would have been the biggest show since Angle/Joe but hey, let's not bother giving the hottest thing in pro-wrestling a match which will make loads of money!

Pentecost wrote: »

He probably wouldn't have signed anyway but they should've agreed to it. It could have been huge for them.

I surprised that people didnt overtly get the story.

TNA were only interested in him because WWE were, TNA treated him really badly the first go around and would likely treat him badly again. He told them to **** off giving this as his asking price.

Dr.Evil · 30-07-2011 3:11am

I don't think Punk ever intended to sign for TNA, he played his cards well.

rovert · 30-07-2011 7:35pm

Maria gets the business more than most:

Why she believes that CM Punk resonates with today's fans and why now is "The Era of Punk": "I think Punk is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, in wrestling right now and for a while now. I love The Rock, and I love 'Stone Cold,' but right now is 'The Era of Punk.' He's incredible. I'm so happy for him to be doing exactly what he enjoys doing, and that's to be honest and to be straight edge. I think it's incredible for him. Punk does not care about the show. He does not care the pyro, and the fanfare, and 'Let me put on a fancy suit and let me look perfect everywhere I go.' What he cares about is wrestling. He cares about the wrestling business. He wants integrity in the wrestling business, and that is why it resonates with the fans. A lot of people care about the fanfare of it all, but they forgot what is wrestling is truly about."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zfB0TX-A9M

DM_7 · 30-07-2011 7:40pm

I miss Maria.

Lord TSC · 30-07-2011 8:04pm

Maria always strikes me as being quite smart about the business when I read stuff about her.

Pentecost · 30-07-2011 8:10pm

I'd forgotten how hot Maria is, Punk was "making her tap out" at one stage wasn't he?

rovert · 30-07-2011 8:12pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Maria always strikes me as being quite smart about the business when I read stuff about her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYmyx9-da1U

Love this segment. Maria breaks kayfabe for the first time when it could get any worse for Bischoff.

Lord TSC · 31-07-2011 9:08am

Pentecost wrote: »

I'd forgotten how hot Maria is, Punk was "making her tap out" at one stage wasn't he?

Punk has pretty much made all the divas "tap out" at one stage or another. Afaik, he was dating her when he broke onto WWE TV.

Tinie · 31-07-2011 9:19am

This shoot interview she did was very interesting I thought:

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x1lqml_Massiera24_maria-youshoot-interview/1

Its in parts there.

grames_bond · 31-07-2011 10:07am

Punk vs scsa would be amazing - as most people have said it could overshadow cena vs rock.....and they already have the promo video ready:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OVgPFdD41c

Pentecost · 31-07-2011 12:19pm

Tinie wrote: »

This shoot interview she did was very interesting I thought:

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x1lqml_Massiera24_maria-youshoot-interview/1

Its in parts there.

She comes across well there, seems a smart, sound girl.

jaykhunter · 31-07-2011 1:53pm

My niece doesn't watch wrestling (she's 16) but my bro does, but he hadn't seen any wrestling in a month. So I put on the main events of every RAW from Punk's promo @ Raw Roulette up until the Money in the Bank main event. So that's well over an hour of wrestling. She stopped whatever she was doing on the comp/ipod to watch CM Punk.

Thought that was pretty awesome. I hope Punk succeeds in his want, "to make wrestling cool again".

the groutch · 31-07-2011 10:04pm

Punk Vs Taker at Survivor Series?

rovert · 31-07-2011 10:31pm

the groutch wrote: »

Punk Vs Taker at Survivor Series?

Over Punk not getting off his lawn?

rovert · 01-08-2011 12:35am

I guess Punk is getting some buddies.

After seeming The Kings of Wrestling getting written out of PWG storylines. Claudio lost to (a WOMAN :mad:) Sara Del Ray in Chikara today.

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