Athletics on TV

average_runner · 06-09-2013 9:46am

PaulieC wrote: »

Diamond League on BBC2 tonight from 7-9pm. Take that niche sport.

Watch this or the the soccer?? Well the soccer is dire so i go for the niche sport

PaulieC · 06-09-2013 10:28am

but just imagine how popular you'll be when you get the barman to turn off the football to watch this

average_runner · 06-09-2013 11:33am

PaulieC wrote: »

but just imagine how popular you'll be when you get the barman to turn off the football to watch this

Give the football 40 mins and people be firing beer mats to turn it off!!

pc11 · 06-09-2013 11:40am

PaulieC wrote: »

Diamond League on BBC2 tonight from 7-9pm. Take that niche sport.

Good man. I just spotted that earlier. I was going mad it didn't seem to be on anywhere, I didn't event see it on Eurosport.

notsofast · 06-09-2013 1:29pm

Is it just me or is the navigation on the iaaf.org website confusing. Trying to find the start lists for tonight and gave up.
http://www.diamondleague.com/en/StartlistResult/ instead

Robinson in the 800B race , up against Brandon Johnson and Michael Rimmer.
All three Borlee brothers in the 400m.

Deano7788 · 06-09-2013 2:03pm

Here's the link to the startlists on the IAAF site. They're underneath the main picture.

ecoli · 06-09-2013 4:26pm

Heff on the late late tonight also

backgreen · 07-09-2013 12:06am

notsofast wrote: »

Is it just me or is the navigation on the iaaf.org website confusing. Trying to find the start lists for tonight and gave up.
http://www.diamondleague.com/en/StartlistResult/ instead

Robinson in the 800B race , up against Brandon Johnson and Michael Rimmer.
All three Borlee brothers in the 400m.

robinson 3rd in that race..where is English of late should be in a lot of these meets

ecoli · 07-09-2013 7:25am

backgreen wrote: »

robinson 3rd in that race..where is English of late should be in a lot of these meets

Running Rieti on Sunday (Robinson in the 1500)

backgreen · 07-09-2013 9:01am

ecoli wrote: »

Running Rieti on Sunday (Robinson in the 1500)

very fast track plus a little altitude..could see some good times

pa4 · 07-09-2013 8:16pm

The IOC are about to announce who's gonna host the 2020 Olympics. Can be viewed here at 9:00pm irish time tonight:

http://www.olympic.org/2020-host-city-election

Its between Istanbul and Tokyo, Madrid got knocked out in the first round of voting.

blockic · 07-09-2013 8:20pm

pa4 wrote: »

The IOC are about to announce who's gonna host the 2020 Olympics. Can be viewed here at 9:00pm irish time tonight:

http://www.olympic.org/2020-host-city-election

Its between Istanbul and Tokyo, Madrid got knocked out in the first round of voting.

Thanks, forgot to check on this today, suprised by Madrid as that bid was talked up all week!

pa4 · 07-09-2013 8:32pm

blockic wrote: »

Thanks, forgot to check on this today, suprised by Madrid as that bid was talked up all week!

Me too, they were favourites going into it today after it emerged about the radioactive water leak in Fukishima. It went to a tie breaker between them and Istanbul for who would get eliminated. I'd say Tokyo will get it but these things are fairly unpredictable!

rom · 13-09-2013 4:42pm

Great North Run - Sunday 9:30am BBC1
repeat 4:45 pm sun bbc2

Men
Kenenisa Bekele (Ethiopia) - debut
Haile Gebrselassie (Ethiopia) - 58:55 (Phoenix, 2006)
Mo Farah (Great Britain) - 1:00:22 (New York 2011)
Collis Birmingham (Australia) - 1:00:56 (Marugame 2013)
Daniele Meucci (Italy) - 1:01:06 (New York 2013)
Arata Fujiwara (Japan/Miki House) - 1:01:34 (Marugame 2012)
Koen Raymaekers (Netherlands) - 1:02:09 (Den Haag 2011)
Tomohiro Tanigawa (Japan/Team Konica Minolta) - 1:02:17 (Marugame 2013)
Yuki Kawauchi (Japan/Saitama Pref. Gov't) - 1:02:18 (Marugame 2012)
Jonathan Mellor (Great Britain) - 1:02:59 (New York 2012)
Ryota Matoba (Japan/Team Komori Corp.) - 1:03:15 (Nat'l Corporate Championships 2013)
Yared Hagos (Ethiopia) - 1:03:31 (Great North Run 2011)
Ryuji Watanabe (Japan/Team Toyota Kyushu) - 1:04:01 (Shibetsu 2013)
Andy Vernon (Great Britain) - 1:04:43 (Bristol 2010)
Jonny Hay (Great Britain) - 1:04:45 (Great North Run 2012)
Neil Renault (Great Britain) - 1:04:47 (Den Haag 2011)
Mark Kenneally (Ireland) - 2:13:55 (Amsterdam Marathon 2011)

Women
Priscah Jeptoo (Kenya) - 1:06:11 (Ras Al Khaimah 2013)
Meseret Defar (Ethiopia) - 1:07:25 (New Orleans 2013)
Tirunesh Dibaba (Ethiopia) - 1:07:35 (Great North Run 2012)
Jelena Prokopcuka (Lativa) - 1:08:09 (Great North Run 2012)
Christelle Daunay (France) - 1:08:34 (Reims 2010)
Jessica Augusto (Portugal) - 1:09:08 (Great North Run 2009)
Lisa Stublic (Croatia) - 1:09:18 (New York 2013)
Gemma Steel (Great Britain) - 1:10:46 (Great North Run 2012)
Irene Jerotich (Kenya) - 1:11:03 (Great North Run 2011)
Jen Rhines (U.S.A.) - 1:11:14 (Houston 2011)
Alyson Dixon (Great Britain) - 1:11:21 (Bath 2013)
Rebecca Robinson (Great Britain) - 1:13:11 (Bristol 2009)
Julie Briscoe (Great Britain) - 1:13:29 (Wilmslow 2011)
Abigail Bayley (Great Britain) - 1:13:40 (Brisbane 2011)
Ayaka Hitomi (Japan/Team Shimamura) - 1:14:23 (Nat'l Corporate Championships 2013)
Laura Whittle (Great Britain) - 32:48 (Eastleigh 10 km 2010)
Misaki Kato (Japan/Team Kyudenko) - 33:10.83 (Kitakyushu 2013)

rom · 13-09-2013 6:09pm

Athletics: Great North CityGames
http://www.greatcitygames.org/Results/2013_gncg.aspx
BBC 1 Saturday 1pm

Laura Crowe is running the mile @ 1:18pm

rom · 15-09-2013 9:32am

http://www.castalba.tv/channel/15584
elite women 10:15
elite men 10:40

Birdsong · 15-09-2013 11:42am

What a finish between at the Great North Run, was fantastic. Great mornings tv

rom · 15-09-2013 11:50am

Birdsong wrote: »

What a finish between at the Great North Run, was fantastic. Great mornings tv

Just for those who want to watch the repeat.

Women's race was excellent too. 2 secs off world best. In the interview yesterday Paula said to Mo to take it handy on that hill. He did and it cost him.Good Solid run from Mark Kennelly

pa4 · 15-09-2013 12:57pm

Brilliant race, the best man one in my opinion. Edge of seat stuff watching that last 200 meters! Its a rare occasion when a half marathon comes down to a sprint finish!

rom · 15-09-2013 1:31pm

pa4 wrote: »

Brilliant race, the best man one in my opinion. Edge of seat stuff watching that last 200 meters! Its a rare occasion when a half marathon comes down to a sprint finish!

does in south sheilds http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dPRszHqqaiA#t=596

eliwallach · 15-09-2013 8:17pm

pa4 wrote: »

the best man one in my opinion!

The best (better) man ALWAYS wins.......

pa4 · 15-09-2013 9:20pm

eliwallach wrote: »

The best (better) man ALWAYS wins.......

But theres always people who will make excuses for athletes. Such as if Farah went with Bekele when he made his move he could have won, but they both have their own distinctive racing tactics. Bekele wasn't gonna be fooled and try and outsprint Farah like the Kenyans try and do, he pushed with a mile to go and Farah couldn't handle it.

pa4 · 15-09-2013 9:23pm

rom wrote: »

does in south sheilds http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dPRszHqqaiA#t=596

Still rarely happens, their are more inclined too hit the lead and try and make a gap from a mile or two out from the finish rather than leave it to a sprint finish.

ChickenTikka · 15-09-2013 9:45pm

Super race. Bekele did an amount of looking around right through the last mile. Must have been suffering big time. Haile in 3rd is incredible ... 40 years old now and running at such a high level/high mileage for so long.

Cartman78 · 16-09-2013 9:54am

Really fantastic race yesterday....Bekele looked dead and buried around 8 miles iirc but ran a very very clever race.

Some nice tactical/strategic blocking too in the last 100m or so too which took a smidgin of momentum away from Farah. Should be interesting to see these guys tussle it out over 26.2 miles. Farah learned a lot from yesterday I would think.

Also, amazing stuff from Haile at 40 years of age

YFlyer · 16-09-2013 10:27am

Cartman78 wrote: »

Really fantastic race yesterday....Bekele looked dead and buried around 8 miles iirc but ran a very very clever race.

Bekele joked that he fell off so that the pace would pick up.

JosDel · 16-09-2013 10:33am

I think the race was won & lost on that last downhill stretch!

Cartman78 · 16-09-2013 10:40am

JosDel wrote: »

I think the race was won & lost on that last downhill stretch!

Yeah...it's as if Farah didn't know it was coming (or didn't plan properly for it if he did). Bekele had probably focused his whole race around that downhill section.

A similar thing happened me a few weeks ago in the Pallasgreen 10k (:D)...was neck and neck with a wiley and speedy veteran all the way but he blitzed me just before the very steep final descent (that I knew nothing about)...shows the importance of knowing the course and proper planning (albeit on a vastly different scale to the Haile & co y'day)

YFlyer · 16-09-2013 10:48am

That vet guy was probably a mountain runner

Chivito550 · 16-09-2013 11:58am

rom wrote: »

In the interview yesterday Paula said to Mo to take it handy on that hill. He did and it cost him.

No point blaming Radcliffe. There's very few who know that course better than Paula and even fewer as successful on it so she knows what she is talking about. I just think Farah was overly cautious on it, which is not what Radcliffe was suggesting, but rather to just be careful with flying down it too hard. Lack of experience running on roads got him there.

Thought it was a super race. I know it's not on the track so there is more of a likelihood for somebody to push the pace rather than waiting until the end, but I thought it was great to see somebody for once not run a race to Farah's liking.

It really only ever was a 2 man race though. Haile never had a hope of winning and he knew it himself. It's all just propaganda. "Best field ever assembled". Listening to Brendan Foster engaging in self interested promotion like that is painful on the eardrums!

Slogger Jogger · 16-09-2013 8:30pm

Great race. Seems to me that Bekele was a lot more route and road-race savvy. Backing off to allow the lads lead the pace out was good, to make the other guys doubt him. The downhill bit Bekele took in his stride. Farah, on the other hand, was nearly braking, leaning backwards. Then towards the finish the finish chute was very narrow and tapering and Bekele was streetwise enough to prevent Farah from gaining an initiative. And it was still oh so close. A great effort from Farah but he left too much to be done in the end.

wgtomblin · 24-09-2013 4:00pm

Berlin Marathon to be broadcast on Eurosport2 this Sunday, 7.45am.

Krusty_Clown · 29-09-2013 9:14am

wgtomblin wrote: »

Berlin Marathon to be broadcast on Eurosport2 this Sunday, 7.45am.

Also here for anyone without Eurosport:
http://www.sportschau.de/av/videostreamderberlinmarathonimlivestream100.html

Itziger · 29-09-2013 9:28am

Looks like a perfect day for it. Great stream, shame I have to head out for a run!!

KielyUnusual · 29-09-2013 9:45am

My German isn't great/non-existent but Kipsang looks to be on for a world record.

ecoli · 29-09-2013 9:50am

That tool should be shot that ran through the finish line there.

KielyUnusual · 29-09-2013 9:52am

ecoli wrote: »

That tool should be shot that ran through the finish line there.

I sincerely hope he was rugby tackled to the ground out of shot. What a git!

jeffontour · 29-09-2013 9:53am

Shooting would be too good for him, what a way to ruin a moment. There was some other eejit doing backflips along the road a few km from the finish as well.

I only saw the last 20 minutes or so, from the splits he seemed to run a brilliantly paced race, outrageously quick.

drquirky · 29-09-2013 10:18am

ecoli wrote: »

That tool should be shot that ran through the finish line there.

Honestly makes me wish the Stasi were still around to drag him into some dark basement for a few days....

drquirky · 29-09-2013 10:19am

Inspiring run btw....Kipchogie was class as well.

robinph · 30-09-2013 8:31am

jeffontour wrote: »

There was some other eejit doing backflips along the road a few km from the finish as well..

I think the guy doing back flips was there to keep the crowd entertained whilst waiting for the leaders to appear.

ecoli · 30-09-2013 2:21pm

jeffontour wrote: »

Shooting would be too good for him, what a way to ruin a moment.

Looks like this was the same guy that was done at the Hannover Bundesliga match the week previously:mad:

tomdempsey200 · 30-09-2013 4:09pm

ya the acrobat before the finish was hired help

what's the big deal about the prankster breaking the tape?....i didn't feel any overwhelming urge to shoot him..............

ecoli · 30-09-2013 4:20pm

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

ya the acrobat before the finish was hired help

what's the big deal about the prankster breaking the tape?....i didn't feel any overwhelming urge to shoot him..............

Kipsang has been focused on breaking this record for the last few years (aimed for it in Frankfurt but it had been revised weeks previously by Makau), has spent months solely focused on this race. Has spent money out of his own pocket to athletes to pace him through sessions (I think about $5k roughly as well as gear though this most likely came from sponsors). He then managed to dig in when it counted to get that record and some fool trying to promote prostitution takes away from his achievement.

The sporting arena is no place for politics or social agendas (examples are Silverstone and the Olympic marathon, the Boston Bombings, Munich Olympic murders)

sam30 · 30-09-2013 8:00pm

ecoli wrote: »

Kipsang has been focused on breaking this record for the last few years (aimed for it in Frankfurt but it had been revised weeks previously by Makau), has spent months solely focused on this race. Has spent money out of his own pocket to athletes to pace him through sessions (I think about $5k roughly as well as gear though this most likely came from sponsors). He then managed to dig in when it counted to get that record and some fool trying to promote prostitution takes away from his achievement.

The sporting arena is no place for politics or social agendas (examples are Silverstone and the Olympic marathon, the Boston Bombings, Munich Olympic murders)

The sporting arena is a wonderful platform for worthwhile social causes and should be utilised far more extensively. The recent spiritually uplifting events in brazil during the confederations cup are a worthy example. Major sporting events like the Berlin marathon are predominately commercial operations that make a small privileged group of people in the world richer off the back of a sporting event. The only reason you dont see more social causes highlighted is because police forces act in typically fascist manner in cracking down on any gatherings London last year been a shocking example of that. It makes the Brazilians bravery this summer even more exceptional.

ecoli · 30-09-2013 8:23pm

sam30 wrote: »

The sporting arena is a wonderful platform for worthwhile social causes and should be utilised far more extensively.

Not by people who hijack an event in order to get their message across.

If the participating athletes use these events as a means of expression I would see it as fair enough as it is their choice to deal with the consequences of their actions but there is a way to go about these things

- Did Vanderlei de Lima deserve to lose his only chance at an Olympic Gold so we could hear about the impending doom of the world?
- Did 11 Israeli athletes deserve to lose their lives to further Black Septembers cause

The likes of Emma Green painting here nails rainbow colours in Moscow this year or the 68 Black power salute are occasions where the athletes themselves have made statements which is fair enough as they are the ones who have something to lose here as a result of their actions but some randomer choosing to high jack someones rewards for years of hard work and sacrifice.

While it will not take away Kipsangs record from the weekend it still detracts from what should have been his time to be acknowledged for his achievements by some fool who decides he wants his 5 min of fame and the fact that this is being talked about at all in many forms of media and social media is a highlight that he was successful to an extent.

sam30 · 30-09-2013 8:57pm

ecoli wrote: »

Not by people who hijack an event in order to get their message across.

If the participating athletes use these events as a means of expression I would see it as fair enough as it is their choice to deal with the consequences of their actions but there is a way to go about these things

- Did Vanderlei de Lima deserve to lose his only chance at an Olympic Gold so we could hear about the impending doom of the world?
- Did 11 Israeli athletes deserve to lose their lives to further Black Septembers cause

The likes of Emma Green painting here nails rainbow colours in Moscow this year or the 68 Black power salute are occasions where the athletes themselves have made statements which is fair enough as they are the ones who have something to lose here as a result of their actions but some randomer choosing to high jack someones rewards for years of hard work and sacrifice.

While it will not take away Kipsangs record from the weekend it still detracts from what should have been his time to be acknowledged for his achievements by some fool who decides he wants his 5 min of fame and the fact that this is being talked about at all in many forms of media and social media is a highlight that he was successful to an extent.

Were a million Brazilians on the streets this summer randomers? Were the people who advocated for sporting sanctions in apartheid south africa randomers? Will the protestors at the winter Olympics who think you should be allowed be openly gay be randomers? Will you be up in arms because some downhill skier who has worked all her life to win a medal doesnt perform to her best because a protestor with a rainbow flay puts her off her game?

There are far more important things in the world than sport or some individuals disappointment at not achieving their sporting goals and individuals who are prepared to highlight oppression in whatever form at major events and face the consequences are my true heroes. Having to hear whinging from some numpties who are afraid some overpaid athlete mightn't perform to their maximum with social protests going on around them is galling

nerraw1111 · 30-09-2013 9:06pm

Think you're way off there in your examples.

Players playing in SA during the apartheid could quite easily be accused of supporting that regime. That's fair game in some eyes. They made a choice to play there. Then again, you get someone like Paul Simon who argued that he was supporting the people who were being oppressed.

The Olympics etc isn't as straightforward. It could be argued that having the Winter Olympics in Russia is a good thing for highlighting issues etc.

Either way, it's way off topic.

ecoli · 30-09-2013 9:22pm

sam30 wrote: »

Were a million Brazilians on the streets this summer randomers? Were the people who advocated for sporting sanctions in apartheid south africa randomers? Will the protestors at the winter Olympics who think you should be allowed be openly gay be randomers? Will you be up in arms because some downhill skier who has worked all her life to win a medal doesnt perform to her best because a protestor with a rainbow flay puts her off her game?

There are far more important things in the world than sport or some individuals disappointment at not achieving their sporting goals and individuals who are prepared to highlight oppression in whatever form at major events and face the consequences are my true heroes. Having to hear whinging from some numpties who are afraid some overpaid athlete mightn't perform to their maximum with social protests going on around them is galling

Your reference to the events in Brazil are slightly flawed in the sense that the reasons for the protest were as a result of the consequences of hosting the Confederations Cup, World Cup and Olympics. The overspending on these events while public transport costs were increased. Here the sporting events were actually part of the problem.

Similarly the International sanctioning of SA was as a form of punishment towards a country. Athletes had ways to compete around this (and a number of runners did by running for other nations) so it was not in a sense hijacking of the event itself.

With regard to protest on topical issues what would be your stance on hoodlums and vandals using organised marches as an guise to incite violence and destruction of property? Similar to the riots a couple of years back at the Orange Order march through Dublin? My point is that these sort of major events should not be taken advantage of by opportunists. There is a time and a place to highlight these issues.

Also your reference to overpaid footballers does not apply to all sports and some athletes rely on winning medals to get some sort of funding;

http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/10/news/economy/olympic-athletes-financial/index.htm

So yes these events can have more importance to the individuals than you realize.

The Olympic ethos from ancient times was about promoting peace and soldiers laying down their arms and while the modern games has slightly digressed from this somewhat I still believe that these basic principles should be honored.

So while there are are more important things in the world than sport, I think people can sometimes forget the implication that sport can have for many people across the world

MrCreosote · 01-10-2013 11:05am

sam30 wrote: »

There are far more important things in the world than sport or some individuals disappointment at not achieving their sporting goals and individuals who are prepared to highlight oppression in whatever form at major events and face the consequences are my true heroes. Having to hear whinging from some numpties who are afraid some overpaid athlete mightn't perform to their maximum with social protests going on around them is galling

Let's face it, some knobhead invading the course either for the buzz, or to promote a prostitution service, is a bit of a world away from the social protestors you're going on about.

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