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Kildare GAA General Discussion Thread

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  • #352
    lilywhites28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭lilywhites28


    We won Leinster in 2009, beating Kildare with 14 men for 3/4 of the game.

    And somehow certain dubs still think this is something to brag about.
    I think been left with 14 men on the pitch is something I wouldnt be shouting from the rafters. I be worried about temperment this year Dubs could come back to cost you. :D


  • #353
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    lilywhites28 wrote: »
    We won Leinster in 2009, beating Kildare with 14 men for 3/4 of the game.

    And somehow certain dubs still think this is something to brag about.
    I think been left with 14 men on the pitch is something I wouldnt be shouting from the rafters. I be worried about temperment this year Dubs could come back to cost you. :D

    In fairness, it is something for them to brag about. Not the sending off but the fact that they have played Kildare twice in the past three seasons and Kildare have only troubled them in both games once Dublin were reduced to 14 men.


  • #354
    dcr22B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    lilywhites28 wrote: »
    I be worried about temperment this year Dubs could come back to cost you. :D
    I'd be worried about the Guru on the sideline who twice has failed to come up with a tactical game plan to beat us with a man advantage for a total of 80 minutes out of 140.


  • #355
    klairondavis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭klairondavis


    Lemlin wrote: »
    In fairness, it is something for them to brag about. Not the sending off but the fact that they have played Kildare twice in the past three seasons and Kildare have only troubled them in both games once Dublin were reduced to 14 men.

    That's not strictly true of the 2009 game. Kildare had drawn level when Brennan was sent off after shipping 1-03 without reply in the opening minutes. I don't think 2009 is really relevant to assessing the merits of both teams now anyway because both teams, particularly Dublin, have changed hugely.

    Last year's match was a tactical disaster for Kildare. Starting Roli ahead of O'Connor. Moving JD back to the half-back line as the free man. Switching Kavanagh out the field and moving Hugh Lynch inside. Bringing on Sean Hurley and then taking him off again within ten minutes despite not on ball being kicked in his direction. Whatever chance Kildare are to have in any potential future match with Dublin, the same errors cannot be repeated. I'd hope that we won't be as tactically naieve this year but we have to get over Meath first and no one will be taking that for granted.


  • #356
    lilywhites28
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    Lemlin the point I was making was that been left with 14 men is not something to be proud of regardless of them beating kildare or whoever. They have been left with 14 men in huge games. Look at conolly aswell. Lucky enough they got him off the hook for the all Ireland.
    One day it could come back and bite them.


  • #357
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    All roads shall lead to Clane on Saturday as Seanie makes his hurling debut for Coill Dubh in the Championship thus making him eligible for Meath on Sunday. :D The CCCCCCCCCCCC messed him around for long enough so it's a pretty fitting end to one of the most farcical episodes in the GAA! He will more than likely start the game and taken off at the first opportunity.

    Prediction: Cill Dara 1-23 0-11 An Mhí


  • #358
    To Alcohol
    Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭To Alcohol


    Looking at the names of the Meath lads missing wouldn't strike fear into me. K Reilly excluded who's a top class full back. In most cases the guys who've come in are as good as they guys out injured. Just don't think there's much between them.

    Kildare 1-15
    Meath 1-9


  • #359
    dcr22B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    lilywhites28 wrote: »
    Lemlin the point I was making was that been left with 14 men is not something to be proud of regardless of them beating kildare or whoever. They have been left with 14 men in huge games. Look at conolly aswell. Lucky enough they got him off the hook for the all Ireland.
    One day it could come back and bite them.
    Never said we were proud of it TBH but we also seem to have a steelier edge when down to 14 so maybe Kildare should try it for size ;)


  • #360
    blackbelt
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    Emmet Bolton marking Graham Reilly, I think the ball now has to be pumped into that Meath full forward line.No disrespect to Reilly but on paper I would think Bolton would get the measure of him.


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  • #361
    Greenngold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Greenngold


    What are the odd's on Seanie Johnston coming on and Kicking the winning score:D.. Although i think Kildare will have too much for Meath and that is probaly unlikely to happen. I expect him to feature on Sunday though, looks like the Hurling gig is going to happen tomorrow night.


  • #362
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    blackbelt wrote: »
    Emmet Bolton marking Graham Reilly, I think the ball now has to be pumped into that Meath full forward line.No disrespect to Reilly but on paper I would think Bolton would get the measure of him.

    The one player Meath will miss is Seamus Kenny. He did a greta job on Bolton last year in the qualifier game and it was only when Kenny went off injured that Bolton came into the game and scored 1-1 I think it was.


  • #363
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    klairondavis wrote: »
    Last year's match was a tactical disaster for Kildare. Starting Roli ahead of O'Connor. Moving JD back to the half-back line as the free man. Switching Kavanagh out the field and moving Hugh Lynch inside. Bringing on Sean Hurley and then taking him off again within ten minutes despite not on ball being kicked in his direction. Whatever chance Kildare are to have in any potential future match with Dublin, the same errors cannot be repeated. I'd hope that we won't be as tactically naieve this year but we have to get over Meath first and no one will be taking that for granted.

    When it comes down to it though, I think Dublin just have better footballers than Kildare and it showed. Kildare are hugely committed and will stick their heads where other county players wouldn't but, when they come up against that extra bit of class, that Dublin, Cork, Kerry and Tyrone tend to have, they falter.

    They'll push Meath aside I suspect with no problem this weekend but the big test is going to be Dublin in the next round. There's only so much training McGeeney can give these lads. The skill has to be there as well and I think alot of them are missing the top level of class they need.


  • #364
    df1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    Kildare beat tyrone this year....

    nothing in it in the two games between donegal and down, and Kildare are in better shape now than then in my opinion.

    I put Kerry and Dublin and maybe Cork ahead of Kiladre but on our day we could beat them.


  • #365
    klairondavis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭klairondavis


    Lemlin wrote: »
    The one player Meath will miss is Seamus Kenny. He did a greta job on Bolton last year in the qualifier game and it was only when Kenny went off injured that Bolton came into the game and scored 1-1 I think it was.

    Bolton did have another goal chance prior to Kenny going off which he put over the bar.


  • #366
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    df1985 wrote: »
    Kildare beat tyrone this year....

    nothing in it in the two games between donegal and down, and Kildare are in better shape now than then in my opinion.

    I put Kerry and Dublin and maybe Cork ahead of Kiladre but on our day we could beat them.

    I'm talking about championship football. Some teams, including Tyrone, tend to take the League a bit less seriously than championship.


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  • #367
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    blackbelt wrote: »
    Emmet Bolton marking Graham Reilly, I think the ball now has to be pumped into that Meath full forward line.

    The full forward line won't find it too easy either, we have two former all stars in our full back line!

    The more I think about it the more confident I am getting. Still though, meath are meath and they always seem to up their game for Kildare. I'll go for Kildare by four


  • #368
    Curlz24
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Curlz24


    Seanie will get 5 mins in the first half today and won't be playing tomorrow in Croke park!


  • #369
    full_irish
    Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭full_irish


    So his first game will be when he kicks the winning point in the Leinster Final against Dublin??

    (You heard it hear first folks)


  • #370
    Syferus
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    Tyrone take even the McKenna Cup deathly serious. Kildare just are a better team than them.


  • #371
    To Alcohol
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    I'd like to see Kildare extend themselves beyond 2nd gear tomorrow and really give the Royals a beating they or we wont forget :)


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  • #372
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Curlz24 wrote: »
    Seanie will get 5 mins in the first half today and won't be playing tomorrow in Croke park!
    What makes you think he won't be playing tomorrow?


  • #373
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Lemlin wrote: »
    If Kildare took the league deathly serious, they wouldn't be in Division 2. They do play at full tilt but they tend to use the league for experimenting with new players.

    He didn't say Kildare take the league seriously, they don't.

    Mickey Harte takes the league very seriously indeed - as an even cursory knowledge of the man would inform you - and has simply had second tier standard players for a while at this stage.


  • #374
    Curlz24
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Curlz24


    Diego Maradona wrote: »
    What makes you think he won't be playing tomorrow?

    I know for a fact!

    He has now played 1min of hurling here in Clane for Coill Dubh and will be eligible for selection but won't line out against Meath.


  • #375
    largepants
    Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I heard he didn't even last a minute, 35 seconds!

    Kildare being labelled the 'Lily Mongrels' in one particularly poor image I see doing the rounds on Facebook.

    The majority in Kildare don't give two hoots what anybody calls them to be honest. Move on. Its done now.


  • #376
    Frankie Lee
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    The conspiracy theorist in me would worry that Kildare are going to get a lot more bad refereeing decisions go against us now that we have pissed off top brass.


  • #377
    beertons
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    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    The conspiracy theorist in me would worry that Kildare are going to get a lot more bad refereeing decisions go against us now that we have pissed off top brass.

    No different to every other year for us though, with disallowed goals and the like.


  • #378
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Any discussion for the senior championship match can be carried out in the match thread anyone wanting to troll these forums any more will be dealt with in line with the forum charter.


  • #379
    breffni666
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭breffni666


    And to think we could have built our hurling team around him rather than doing away with it. Is he still eligable to hurl with Cavan if we ever get our team back? Someone should make representations, we cant let this hurling talent slip away. We need everyone on board!!!! Rules can be bent to suit!


  • #380
    roy rodgers
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    Curlz24 wrote: »
    Diego Maradona wrote: »
    What makes you think he won't be playing tomorrow?

    I know for a fact!

    He has now played 1min of hurling here in Clane for Coill Dubh and will be eligible for selection but won't line out against Meath.


    One hundred percent true. Jonhston came on for 45 seconds and now we shuld see him starting tomorrow.
    Cant wait to see him burying a goal in the hill 16 end!!!!


  • #381
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    This whole sideshow has undermined Kildare. When they are dumped out of the championship what will happen then. They probably will beat Meath and reach the final in a poor Leinster championship, be defeated by Dublin and then lose to the next good team the play in the qualifiers.

    The pressure is all on Kildare now.


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  • #382
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Seanie is a lily white and we will cheer as he buries bad memories of brutal football in cavan


  • #383
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    DB10 wrote: »
    This whole sideshow has undermined Kildare. When they are dumped out of the championship what will happen then. They probably will beat Meath and reach the final in a poor Leinster championship, be defeated by Dublin and then lose to the next good team the play in the qualifiers.

    The pressure is all on Kildare now.
    ZZZZZZZZZZ


  • #384
    DB10
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    Johnston actually has a poor goalscoring record. Its mostly hollywood points he scores. He can kick a great score in fairness to him. He wont be sharp enough now though Id say, no match fitness.


  • #385
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    DB10 wrote: »
    Johnston actually has a poor goalscoring record. Its mostly hollywood points he scores. He can kick a great score in fairness to him. He wont be sharp enough now though Id say, no match fitness.

    Johnston has been training harder than probably most from what I have heard!!

    If anything all this negative Kildare stuff is blowing off players backs they are focused and will do talking on the pitch now!!

    So do people begrudge Kildare success that much?? PATHETIC lads absolutely pathetic


  • #386
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    DB10 wrote: »
    Johnston actually has a poor goalscoring record. Its mostly hollywood points he scores. He can kick a great score in fairness to him. He wont be sharp enough now though Id say, no match fitness.

    Hes been training as hard as the rest of them,taking hits from and getting stuck into the best of them.
    As for hollywood points? lol any of them could have won Kildare the Leinster final last year,he just might be the difference this year.
    I say fcuk the begrudgers,the gaa have made Seanie jump through hoops.
    Someone mentioned people on facebook slating Kildare, the majority of which probably wouldnt have a clue.


  • #387
    Felexicon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Hate to say it but this puts Kildare GAA in a very bad light. Surely someone should have realised a stunt like this would attract negative coverage from all sides.
    I know I'll probably get a backlash from people thinking I'm only saying this because of who they are playing tomorrow but I can assure you that is not the case.
    I was actually in favour of the transfer and thought Johnston was treated unfairly by the GAA because his was a high profile case.
    But what was done today was an absolute disgrace to the principles that most GAA people hold high.


  • #388
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Hate to say it but this puts Kildare GAA in a very bad light. Surely someone should have realised a stunt like this would attract negative coverage from all sides.
    I know I'll probably get a backlash from people thinking I'm only saying this because of who they are playing tomorrow but I can assure you that is not the case.
    I was actually in favour of the transfer and thought Johnston was treated unfairly by the GAA because his was a high profile case.
    But what was done today was an absolute disgrace to the principles that most GAA people hold high.
    What the CCCC done to that man is nothing short of a disgrace, they made him jump through hoops. They deliberately delayed approving his transfer until after Kevins had played in the Kildare Championship.

    I agree today was a farce as well but the GAA have shot themselves in the foot here and its good to see an amateur footballer getting the last laugh.

    Johnston does not get paid, he wants to play football at the highest level and Cavan have denied him this.

    The real losers in all of this is Cavan supporters and the Cavan Gaels club.


  • #389
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Do you ever think through these comments you post? Because it doesn't appear so.

    If Johnston wanted to bury such memories of Cavan football, why did he originally try to move and stay with his club?

    And if Cavan football is as brutal as you say, how did our juniors go up to your home patch last Wednesday night and give your juniors a thumping? Your juniors that have been training with the Kildare senior team.

    I'm getting sick and tired of your endless jibes at Cavan and Cavan football. The player ye have taken wasn't wanted or needed by the Cavan panel so get over it.

    Also, remember in the back of your mind that he wouldn't be a Lilywhite but for that fact and said so himself so your argument that he moved to bury anything is as ludicrous as your other posts on here.

    At this stage, I'm tired of reading that he's a Cavan this and Cavan that from supporters of both counties, and from reading crap like your opinion above.

    To be honest, I couldn't care who wins today because I'm hoping Dublin will whip either of yas into shape.
    Lemlin you use here to escape the fact that Cavan are brutal absolutely terrible and try to lord it over people back to Cavan thread with ya ;)

    Also Dublin have to beat Wexford to get to Meath or Kildare!!! But sure you know it all I suppose!! Although Dublin will prob more likely will beat Wexford ya never know Wexford nearly did a job on them last year


  • #390
    Drummerboy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »
    As for supple cop on why would Kildare want dublins third choice keeper? Supple is a classic example of a drama queen saying I'm loyal to Dublin etc which is waffle IMO if any soccer team would offer him a contract he would take it you can guarantee that. Supple isn't fit to clean cluxtons boots and feels the need to cry wolf to media for a bit of attention!!!

    Your posting waffle, he had just signed a 3 year contract when he decided to quit. He has since been offered many contracts but refused them all.


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  • #391
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I will dish out bans if people continue to use the GAA forum to go through their personal differences, if you want to vent on a topic, head over to Ranting and Raving or PM each other.


  • #392
    Tom Joad
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    Diego Maradona wrote: »
    Johnston does not get paid, he wants to play football at the highest level and Cavan have denied him this.

    The real losers in all of this is Cavan supporters and the Cavan Gaels club.

    The Cavan management are perfectly within their rights to pick whoever they feel is right for the team - the management, for once backed by the county board, decided not to pick Seanie.

    I don't agree that Cavan supporters are the losers here. No-one from Cavan has ever disputed his footballing ability - as one poster said he's a great man for the hollywood points, but Cavan are better without him and that a simple fact. While we are no great world beaters and a win today against Fermanagh would surprise most people here, we do have a TEAM that are working together and have come up together through the ranks - that's a foundation to build on and I do genuinely believe that dropping Seanie was the right call by the management.

    I don't wish Seanie ill or Kildare - good luck to them and people here be it from Cavan, Meath or Dublin or where-ever who are castigating Kildare for poaching players are being hypocritical. We in Cavan benefitted from player transfers such as Raymie Gallagher from Fermanagh. And anyone in Cavan, Meath or other county than got a player like Bernard Brogan or the Gooch to declare for them in dubious circumstances who says they would not be delighted is talking bolox in my view!!!

    The GAA handled this badly from start to finish and made a farce of this whole transfer and needs to look at the way it handles these issues.


  • #393
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Very disappointing performance today, we totally lacked any attacking threat up front. McGeeney has a lot to answer for. Why was Rob Kelly dropped after playing very well at mid field against Offaly? Why was Alan Smith playing around the middle in the first half and Mikey Conway is no more a corner forward than Smith is a mid fielder.

    Dermot should have been brought in at mid field not full forward.

    The referee was poor but he was poor for both teams so that is not an excuse, back to the drawing board.


  • #394
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Absolutely shocked lads never felt so alone in croker..

    Hopefully lads will regroup and fight like we know they can. Just hoping this will be the only loss we have this summer.

    The substitutions were ridiculous take a target man out and put another in when I say that a big target like Earley.

    Geezer needs to get tactics right, anymore days like this ill have no nerves left


  • #395
    Tom Joad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Hard luck to Kildare today - I can understand that ye must be shell shocked a bit but when you think about in the cold light of today tomorrow is it really that bad?? Okay not nice to be beaten in a semi by a neighbouring county who there is so much rivallry with.

    But when you look at it the pressure is off now and no harm to be off the back pages for a while - motivation should be no trouble for geezer now and the Kildare boys should have no trouble getting up for the next match. There's nobody in the next round of the qualifiers ye should fear and the hype will die down - Meath were like a wounded animal today and we should all know well enough never to write a Meath team off. Kildare should get the heads down and build up a bit of momentum through the back door - its not the end of the summer yet. :)


  • #396
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Paddy O' Rourke steps down as Armagh manager.

    Might have consequences for us if we have an early exit.


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  • #397
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Diego Maradona wrote: »
    Paddy O' Rourke steps down as Armagh manager.

    Might have consequences for us if we have an early exit.

    Could mean the return of the mighty Glenn Ryan


  • #398
    full_irish
    Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭full_irish


    DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »
    Absolutely shocked lads never felt so alone in croker..

    Really? Wasn't there today but it can't have been any worse than the losses to both Laois and Wicklow up in Croker?


  • #399
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    full_irish wrote: »
    Really? Wasn't there today but it can't have been any worse than the losses to both Laois and Wicklow up in Croker?

    Just as bad if not worse.. Fair play to Meath but we know how good this Kildare team are to see a shock defeat is hard to take!

    I really hope lads lift themselves and come back to qualifiers with a point to prove :)


  • #400
    Felexicon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Jesus that Lemlin lad has an awful chip on his shoulder when it comes to Kildare.

    Must have been refused entry to the priest college in Maynooth or something.


  • #401
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Jesus that Lemlin lad has an awful chip on his shoulder when it comes to Kildare.

    Must have been refused entry to the priest college in Maynooth or something.

    If there was an award for king of the stirrers you would get it felex lol well done today great performance from a young side!!!


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