Wii U Pre-Launch Discussion

GTR63 · 04-06-2012 1:04am

What did you expect?
Yeah Nintendo were going to reveal all the WiiU games days before their conference just for the hell of it.

nitromaster · 04-06-2012 1:05am

Kinski wrote: »

RANT MODE:
*snip*

/RANT OVER. :P

games are coming Tuesday, 5pm. :pac:

Kinski · 04-06-2012 1:05am

/\/ollog wrote: »

If you're serious, e3 hasn't even started yet.

Not really; that video just bored the arse off me!;):D

I do have some major concerns with the hardware, but games make or break any system.

CastorTroy · 04-06-2012 1:08am

And if it bored you now, imagine if this took place at the conference. So it was smart to do it this way. Now it'll be games for the whole of the conference.

Princess Peach · 04-06-2012 1:37am

I hope they make it so if you have an existing friend code from Wii and/or 3DS you can use it with the new Wii U, link it through a Nintendo account or something.

I will go crazy adding everyone again :pac:

But the online community looks pretty fun! As long as lots of other people buy it

Star Lord · 04-06-2012 1:43am

Kinski wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I was really looking forward to this.

Really? Really? Because your rant sounds like you didn't know a lot of the stuff that was actually included in the E3 reveal last year tbh...
They were just revealing some of the functionality that the Wii U will have. You want to know what it can do, keep your eyes peeled on Tuesday.

megaten · 04-06-2012 2:40am

Including universal remote functionality in the pad sounds really cleaver. You'd wonder why someone hasn't tried it before.

Tipsy McSwagger · 04-06-2012 8:25am

Kinski wrote: »

Not really; that video just bored the arse off me!;):D

I do have some major concerns with the hardware, but games make or break any system.

Ye it's ok to be overhyped but not underwhelmed by that boring video. I've owned every single Nintendo console but after the wii disaster will be very wary of the Wii U. Nintendo need to show some amazing games that will appeal to serious gamers and not novelty crap. I hope they do as they are still the greatest gaming company around.

Oafley Jones · 04-06-2012 8:54am

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Ye it's ok to be overhyped but not underwhelmed by that boring video. I've owned every single Nintendo console but after the wii disaster will be very wary of the Wii U. Nintendo need to show some amazing games that will appeal to serious gamers and not novelty crap. I hope they do as they are still the greatest gaming company around.

Myself and the lads were discussing the upcoming WiiU last week and not one of us was considering buying it. You're talking about 6 Wii owners here and the last time one of us turned on the machine was 18 months ago. Of that group there are two 360s and one PS3 and they're used on pretty much a daily basis and the consensus was that - if we had the money - we'd all buy the next gen for those machines on launch.

It's not just hardcore games, the three Wii only owners would consider themselves casual gamers and similarly to ourselves have just been turned off Nintendo by the gimmicky nature of the Wii. This is quite an achievement given that we're all 80s kids and have strong associations with the brand.

richymcdermott · 04-06-2012 11:37am

the wii for me has being a fantastc system with some of the most memorable games this generation .

Mario Galaxy games
metroid prime 3
skyward sword
nights journey of dreams
xenoblade
the last story
Sonic Colours
pandora tower
fragile dreams Etc...

loads of quality 1st party and 3rd party games that unfortunately does not get the exposure they deserve. awful negative picture towards the wii for being casual console which is a shame.
watching that nintendo direct video yesterday was interesting and some pretty cool features added. i am glad the wii u game pad got a re design with the sticks are no longer sliders and the added an optional wii u pro controller for those who have no interest in the gamepad. as for the features im diigging the mii universe world menu , it be great in the menu asking for helping guys when they have trouble on games and stuff, feels very much like facebook.
in the end of the day people buy nintendo consoles for the 1st party games , and now as it seems they are getting the 3rd party back it is the to go to console in my opinion. i made the mistake skipping the n64 and gamecube , not going to repeat those mistakes again.
cant wait to see what happens tomorrow

Kinski · 04-06-2012 12:27pm

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Really? Really? Because your rant sounds like you didn't know a lot of the stuff that was actually included in the E3 reveal last year tbh...

Exactly. A lot of that stuff was mentioned last year; I wasn't impressed with it then, and I'm disappointed to not be hearing better stuff now. They were even using bits of the videos they had last year. Nintendo could surely made a better video than that; obviously they wouldn't be showing off games, but why not some new tech demos to give a better sense of what can be done with the system?

Of course, as everyone agrees, the games are key. The Wii doesn't have a stellar back catalogue, but the best exclusives on there are among the best games of the generation (I loved Skyward Sword, probably my fave Zelda bar A Link To The Past, and Sin & Punishment: SotS may be favorite game of the whole generation). If the Wii U has as many great games, I'll probably pick it up at some stage.

But I suppose it comes down to the fact that I'm still disappointed that no Nintendo system is ever going to be my main console again, since they now seem condemned to forever lag a generation behind in terms of horsepower. I mean, the video talks about the new controller, and then seems to imply that core gamers might prefer using the Classic Controller Pro for some titles. Doesn't that just make it a 360 or PS3?

Kinski · 04-06-2012 12:29pm

megaten wrote: »

Including universal remote functionality in the pad sounds really cleaver. You'd wonder why someone hasn't tried it before.

But will that work with set-top boxes? If it doesn't, what's the point, since most households have to have one control handy for the set-top box, and another for the set itself? If it didn't both it would be brilliant, but I'm assuming it will only work with the set.

CastorTroy · 04-06-2012 12:47pm

Kinski wrote: »

I mean, the video talks about the new controller, and then seems to imply that core gamers might prefer using the Classic Controller Pro for some titles. Doesn't that just make it a 360 or PS3?

My understanding is that it's to stop all the moaning about the controller looking crap and those people scared to try something different, which is why he even introduced it by talking about cross platform games.

But I agree that I wouldn't be getting it at launch unless they have games I absolutely want to play. Otherwise, I think it'll be 6 months or so.

I did have to laugh at the not so subtle dig at Sony's claim last year about doing with Vita and ps3 what the Wii U does when he talked about there being no delay between controller screen and tv screen.

As for the tv remote, I usaually have the 2 on the go myself, so if they have the input(AV/HDMI) button then it'll do me.

Hopefully they allow for standy controller charging. Like if the PS3 is in standby mode, you can't charge the controller. It has to be on.

InTheTrees · 04-06-2012 7:51pm

Its fascinating to watch.

Personally I think Nintendo is charging down the Sega path to irrelevance. They seem to me to be completely out of touch with what consumers want.

Instead of finally updating a 2006 console into something usable for the modern era what do they do but come out with some kind of portable social media device?? Wtf??

So instead of standing on their strengths, they've decided its a clever thing to go up against the iphone/ipad and if you think that wasnt commercially suicidal enough they're also going to try and stick it to Facebook as far as I can tell.

Does anyone really have any doubts about how thats going to end?

Sad really.

InTheTrees · 04-06-2012 7:54pm

Kinski wrote: »

But I suppose it comes down to the fact that I'm still disappointed that no Nintendo system is ever going to be my main console again, since they now seem condemned to forever lag a generation behind in terms of horsepower.

I give them one to two years more as a hardware manufacturer and then it'll be game over.

CastorTroy · 04-06-2012 8:14pm

Well I'm sure they're really sweating after that Microsoft conference.

Star Lord · 04-06-2012 8:14pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

Instead of finally updating a 2006 console into something usable for the modern era what do they do but come out with some kind of portable social media device?? Wtf??

So instead of standing on their strengths, they've decided its a clever thing to go up against the iphone/ipad and if you think that wasnt commercially suicidal enough they're also going to try and stick it to Facebook as far as I can tell.

It's anything but a portable social media device. It's simply a controller with a screen. It's not portable as such because it's got to be wirelessly tethered to the base console. You can see the console sitting at the bottom right corner of the TV in that video that they showed with the (douchey) guy getting stuck on the zombie game and using the social elements built into the console such as messaging, group messaging and video calling. Which was all that was meant to show. The games, and to that end, the power of the console will be revealed tomorrow. TBH I don't care if it's only slightly more powerful than the xbox 360 or PS3. I have all three current consoles, and I play the Wii as much as the PS3. The good games are there for it, you just have to look past the Wii fit and the shovel ware that third parties threw at it.

CastorTroy · 04-06-2012 8:23pm

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

The good games are there for it, you just have to look past the Wii fit and the shovel ware that third parties threw at it.

Exactly! People dismiss it but when you look at it you have a good few really good exclusives, both first and third party

richymcdermott · 04-06-2012 8:52pm

The wii has being fresh air compared to ps3 360 counterparts. While i can safely say without bashing cause i moved to playstation products when the ps1 came out that the wii is bout games that have huge fun factor and fresh gameplay and so much charm while 360 and ps3 decided to go towards the blockbuster games and shooters which annoyed me abit cause he fele like past 5 years games are trying to be movies than videogames. I have never being a true mario guy but mario galaxy is probably the greatest game in the last 20 years

InTheTrees · 04-06-2012 9:32pm

richymcdermott wrote: »

The wii has being fresh air compared to ps3 360 counterparts. While i can safely say without bashing cause i moved to playstation products when the ps1 came out that the wii is bout games that have huge fun factor and fresh gameplay and so much charm while 360 and ps3 decided to go towards the blockbuster games and shooters which annoyed me abit cause he fele like past 5 years games are trying to be movies than videogames.

Fair enough. So nintendo is going for the simple fun basic games?

Kind of like the games people are already playing on their phones.

Star Lord · 04-06-2012 9:40pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

Fair enough. So nintendo is going for the simple fun basic games?

Kind of like the games people are already playing on their phones.

Why don't you wait till they actually show the games tomorrow?

InTheTrees · 04-06-2012 9:46pm

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Why don't you wait till they actually show the games tomorrow?

Yeah. Sorry. Didnt mean to be a hater. I've had a wii for years, I'm in Seattle and I know people who work at their US office, they're local here. And I'm a huge Seattle Mariners Fan (baseball) and they're the majority owner so I'm seriously rooting for Nintendo to make a big comeback in a lot of different ways!

But I've worked in Games for twenty years and I know the business and I'm scared. Thats all. SO fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Star Lord · 04-06-2012 9:50pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

Yeah. Sorry. Didnt mean to be a hater. I've had a wii for years, I'm in Seattle and I know people who work at their US office, they're local here. And I'm a huge Seattle Mariners Fan (baseball) and they're the majority owner so I'm seriously rooting for Nintendo to make a big comeback in a lot of different ways!

But I've worked in Games for twenty years and I know the business and I'm scared. Thats all. SO fingers crossed for tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure that they're learning that the strategy they adopted with the Wii worked great initially, but didn't hold up for the lifespan. I'm pretty confident they're gonna own the show.

Myrddin · 04-06-2012 9:50pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

I give them one to two years more as a hardware manufacturer and then it'll be game over.

Yeah...

Worldwide sales figures

Wii – 95.85 million as of 31 March 2012
Xbox 360 – 65.8 million as of 12 January 2012
PlayStation 3 – 63.9 million as of 31 March 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Seventh_generation

InTheTrees · 04-06-2012 10:01pm

EnterNow wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Seventh_generation

These are the only important numbers:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q;_ylt=AtPK.h.miGmuqo4hvrIHIm3xVax_;_ylu=X3oDMTFiMzZyZ3E5BHBvcwMxMgRzZWMDeWZpU3ltYm9sTG9va3VwUmVzdWx0cwRzbGsDbnRkb3k-?s=NTDOY

nitromaster · 04-06-2012 11:47pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

These are the only important numbers:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q;_ylt=AtPK.h.miGmuqo4hvrIHIm3xVax_;_ylu=X3oDMTFiMzZyZ3E5BHBvcwMxMgRzZWMDeWZpU3ltYm9sTG9va3VwUmVzdWx0cwRzbGsDbnRkb3k-?s=NTDOY

http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-doomed-not-likely-just-take-look-how-much-money-its-got-bank/

"Nintendo has £6.7 ($10.5) billion in the bank and, even if making big losses every year, that considerable nest egg would keep the company going until 2052"

They have enough in the bank to keep them going more than one or two more years at the least :pac:
I believe they know what they're doing tbh.

Kinski · 05-06-2012 11:14am

Nintendo's share price is also affected by things like the strength of the yen and their non-games-related investments, so it's not all about the Wii U or their overall strategy in gaming.

F1ngers · 05-06-2012 11:44am

That ZombiU has piqued my interest.
If I see some promising gameplay from it, I will definitely buy the WiiU early on.

GTR63 · 05-06-2012 12:06pm

I'd love if they pulled out something unexpected like Ethernal Darkness 2 or a Battalion Wars game that plays like Advance Wars on the WiiU controller. They could give a little love with 3rd Parties.

richymcdermott · 05-06-2012 3:36pm

Ign did a article saying wii u might be packed in with wii u sports , be a great idea , i dont expect wii u will announce a price or date , maybe at tokyo game show but today is going to be insane , anyone who has seen the rayman tech demo at ubisoft yesterday was crazy, shows nintendo are hiding something with what that controller can do, no need to worry bout 1st party or 2nd party titles living up i hope to see what 3rd party companies are supporting wii u
Hope sonic rumour is true cause i can never get enough of sonic, ubisoft and ea are pushing this which is great. Lets see if others follow

Nollog · 05-06-2012 4:05pm

InTheTrees wrote: »

Its fascinating to watch.

Personally I think Nintendo is charging down the Sega path to irrelevance. They seem to me to be completely out of touch with what consumers want.

Instead of finally updating a 2006 console into something usable for the modern era what do they do but come out with some kind of portable social media device?? Wtf??

So instead of standing on their strengths, they've decided its a clever thing to go up against the iphone/ipad and if you think that wasnt commercially suicidal enough they're also going to try and stick it to Facebook as far as I can tell.

Does anyone really have any doubts about how thats going to end?

Sad really.

I didn't realise there was an Irish Nintendoomed sect.

InTheTrees · 05-06-2012 4:24pm

/\/ollog wrote: »

I didn't realise there was an Irish Nintendoomed sect.

You didnt huh?

TheIrishGrover · 05-06-2012 6:38pm

Well.... after that E3 presentation count me out. I'm not a graphics junkie but I already have a 360 & PS3...... I'm not going to fork out 400 quid for another current gen console. The best looking games on the system are already out on the 360/PS3. Disappointed

readyletsgo · 05-06-2012 7:47pm

We do have the 'Round table' thing that is later today and the rest of the week to show new games for the system. But yeah, agreed, terrible showing off of a new system with new games.

Reggi said they were going to show 22 games in 1 hour, I dont think that was 22 games...

Tank! Tank! Tank! - No idea what this is
Batman & Mass Effect 3 - New Editions but they are PORTS!!!
Nintendoland - Wii Sports with added mario, zelda etc, ugh rubbish.
NSMBU/3ds - more of the same sadly.
Pikmin3 - Never really got into it back in the Gamecube/Wii eara
ZombiU - Best thing of the whole damn conference!
Lego City- Looks pretty funny must say
Wii Fit U (sounds like a talking tshirt) - Way too much time spent on this rubbish. I imagine all Xbox/PS people switched off during or after that.

There are others but nothing I would be bothered with at all.

CastorTroy · 05-06-2012 7:56pm

All the games are here, but nothing extra of note
http://e3.nintendo.com/games/

InTheTrees · 05-06-2012 8:29pm

Well...

MY fingers are still crossed for the launch.

richymcdermott · 05-06-2012 10:24pm

Everything announced so far

CastorTroy · 05-06-2012 10:58pm

Not enough to convince me to buy day 1.

nitromaster · 05-06-2012 11:54pm

Rumours: Apparently they held off on a 1st party title at the conference, and Retro's title....also didn't showcase Aliens as it wasn't fully ready...interesting if true. That could have really changed the conference!

also another rumour that something MAY happen on Friday, totally unconfirmed of course....:P

Virtual Console/WiiWare confirmed to be transferrable though:
"digital game collections purchased over the Wii Virtual Console will also be transferable over to the Wii U"

Ol' Donie · 06-06-2012 12:22am

Whats the deal with the launch window? Seem to be few enough games to be released then...
Anyway, pikmin, batman, assassins creed, aliens, there seems to me to be a decent selection there. Not to mention mario.
Any chance in the world we might see resi 6?

DL Saint · 06-06-2012 12:22am

No Zelda + No Mario Kart + No Smash Bros + No DK + No Starfox + No Metroid = No buy at launch

Sephiroth_dude · 06-06-2012 12:48am

quite an impressive machine but no game's that interest me on release,I'd love to pick up one the states as I'm gonna be there in november,Is it region free?

richymcdermott · 06-06-2012 12:50am

you can transfer your virtual console games to wii u

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/06/you_can_transfer_wii_vc_games_to_wii_u

richymcdermott · 06-06-2012 11:28am

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/06/e3_2012_f_zero_is_coming_to_wii_u

F-Zero for wii u....kinda

was announced yesterday nintendoland will have a f zero mini game
as i mentioned earlier in another forum it be a great pack in title for the system but i never buy it on its own as its novelty would ware off me after few mins

readyletsgo · 06-06-2012 11:37am

As someone said in the E3 Discussion thread, Nintendo Land, looks like fun, but I would never buy it as it would get boring really fast after a few goes. Hope they pack it in with the system otherwise, its not worth €50 or whatever the price of these games will be.

So all the 3DS games will be show at 2am tonight/tomorrow morning am I right?

richymcdermott · 06-06-2012 11:41am

readyletsgo wrote: »

As someone said in the E3 Discussion thread, Nintendo Land, looks like fun, but I would never buy it as it would get boring really fast after a few goes. Hope they pack it in with the system otherwise, its not worth €50 or whatever the price of these games will be.

So all the 3DS games will be show at 2am tonight/tomorrow morning am I right?

yup all 3ds games be announced at 2am

Star Lord · 06-06-2012 11:52am

I can't imagine that Nintendo Land would be anything BUT a pack in game tbh!

Myrddin · 06-06-2012 1:19pm

I've watched bits of the presentation, but missed the Nintendoland thing - what exactly is it??

richymcdermott · 06-06-2012 1:44pm

EnterNow wrote: »

I've watched bits of the presentation, but missed the Nintendoland thing - what exactly is it??

Basically a nintendo theme park game that you play selection of mini games raging from F-Zero racer to animal crossing chase mini game , You can walk around with your mii character and meet others online in the park .
Its being developed by the animal crossing team.
I am hearing things online its free , if it is that be cool pack in but if nintendo actually expect the core gamer to buy this they be sadly mistaken

Myrddin · 06-06-2012 1:47pm

God no, if its free then it might provide a casual distraction...but surely thats not something people would pay for?

I'm still hopeful that the new controller & console will somehow tie in together & create something really unique that caters for everyone...suppose we'll only know when we see it in the flesh

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