Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

MidlandsM · 17-04-2012 9:57am

Todays suggestion for MM.....

as small diesels are all in vogue these days, how about this vw polo 1.4 tdi ........low tax, low insurance, frugal, easy to service (T.belt kit for these is just €89) and 75bhp, but remappable to 100bhp is ya want!

This example is not flawless by any means, but if gotten round 1500 notes, it'd be a good bangernomic option in these lean times. And you'd lose little on this car, depreciation would be low now.......

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3079669

L-M · 17-04-2012 11:18am

That link to the Peugeot threw up an "Apachi Tomcat" for me, not sure what that is but i've removed it to be on the safe side.

woodseb · 17-04-2012 11:55am

Limerick man wrote: »

That link to the Peugeot threw up an "Apachi Tomcat" for me, not sure what that is but i've removed it to be on the safe side.

does the Tomcat have tax/nct?

Nforce · 17-04-2012 12:14pm

Limerick man wrote: »

That link to the Peugeot threw up an "Apachi Tomcat" for me, not sure what that is but i've removed it to be on the safe side.

I had the same happen earlier with a different car...Donedeal must be having website problems.

166man · 17-04-2012 12:24pm

Yeah looks like it's that time of the month for Donedeal again...

pappyodaniel · 17-04-2012 2:38pm

This seems to be the same car posted twice. One in Dublin and the other in WestMeath. What's the thinking behind this?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3253254

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3253279

MidlandsM · 17-04-2012 3:32pm

he might live in dub during the week?

keithsfleet · 17-04-2012 7:12pm

Nforce wrote: »

What tax? Tax: 01/2012 :P

RoverJames wrote: »

Had guts of 10 months tax a few mins ago

The ad has changed completely!
Was also NCT till January 2014 and im certain it said the car was a 2004 originally.

Hmmmmmmm

cadaliac · 17-04-2012 8:20pm

keithsfleet wrote: »

The ad has changed completely!
Was also NCT till January 2014 and im certain it said the car was a 2004 originally.

Hmmmmmmm

+1
also links to the volvo above are going to some cctv ad instead.

dahamsta · 18-04-2012 12:22am

I saw that Volvo ad a couple days ago, the seller says it can be viewed in both locations. Posted it in both counties.

MidlandsM · 18-04-2012 9:46am

My midweek Spot!

Today going french (even though I'm not a fan of reno's), but its cheap, got A/C for the summer, t/belt done, electrics, Nct and looks daycent enough......and if she goes thru the test next jan, you'd flog it on for 5 or 6 hundred....how bad huhhh?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3256728

Mycroft H · 18-04-2012 9:49am

MidlandsM wrote: »

My midweek Spot!

Today going french (even though I'm not a fan of reno's), but its cheap, got A/C for the summer, t/belt done, electrics, Nct and looks daycent enough......and if she goes thru the test next jan, you'd flog it on for 5 or 6 hundred....how bad huhhh?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3256728

Grea seats in them too. Those alloys mus be standard on them, a friend of mine has them and I always thought that the were aftermarket.

MidlandsM · 18-04-2012 9:52am

another thing about them is the good Ncap rating, 4 Stars!

People forget about this when buying a cheap car, all grand till you get T-Boned by a SCANIA!

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/renault_megane_1999/41.aspx

E39MSport · 18-04-2012 10:47am

Front suspension/setup looks iffy

18-04-2012 10:50am

pappyodaniel wrote: »

This seems to be the same car posted twice. One in Dublin and the other in WestMeath. What's the thinking behind this?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3253254

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3253279

Some of it is in Dublin, some in Westmeath.

18-04-2012 11:10am

Bulletproof motoring for under 1k. Really handy car to have with that liftback too.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3226363

W123-80's · 18-04-2012 11:46am

Diesel, with plenty of tax & test. Looks tidy.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3257111

Or a clocked low milage BMW....!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3140887

ongarite · 18-04-2012 11:49am

W123-80's wrote: »

Or a clocked low milage BMW....!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3140887

Overheating E39. Stay away!!

andyseadog · 18-04-2012 3:32pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3256583

would this have any life left at this mileage?

looks local to me, i might go and turn up with 600 if i thought it would last.

W123-80's · 18-04-2012 3:43pm

W123-80's wrote: »

Diesel, with plenty of tax & test. Looks tidy.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3257111

Or a clocked low milage BMW....!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3140887[/QUOTE]

The C5 Didn't last long.! Advert removed.

18-04-2012 4:00pm

andyseadog wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3256583

would this have any life left at this mileage?

looks local to me, i might go and turn up with 600 if i thought it would last.

If it's gotten oil changes frequently there could be loads of use left in her.

keithsfleet · 18-04-2012 6:43pm

ongarite wrote: »

Overheating E39. Stay away!!

Got to disagree. If thats a genuine FBMWSH then it could be good money.
Overheating can be quickly diagnosed so can make for a huge bargaining tool.
Once there is no sign of serious engine damage from being driven in the red for long.

L-M · 18-04-2012 6:44pm

Sacramento wrote: »

Bulletproof motoring for under 1k. Really handy car to have with that liftback too.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3226363

They're not as bullet proof as you'd think. it 1.3 is the bulletproof one.

18-04-2012 6:48pm

Limerick man wrote: »

They're not as bullet proof as you'd think. it 1.3 is the bulletproof one.

Well I have the saloon version with the same engine. Apart from much over hyped oil burning issues with some engines they are a solid car. Or is there something (very possible) else that I don't know about it?

E39MSport · 18-04-2012 6:53pm

Limerick man wrote: »

They're not as bullet proof as you'd think. it 1.3 is the bulletproof one.

My old man ran a 4e-fe (dizzy starlet I gave him) almost bone dry for God knows how long, fill her up and she's tickedyboo. They're a very resilient engine.

L-M · 18-04-2012 6:57pm

Sacramento wrote: »

Well I have the saloon version with the same engine. Apart from much over hyped oil burning issues with some engines they are a solid car. Or is there something (very possible) else that I don't know about it?

Nope, but the amount of oil they burn is enough to crack anyone. More that the Golf of the same era that people hate so much.

18-04-2012 7:05pm

Limerick man wrote: »

Nope, but the amount of oil they burn is enough to crack anyone. More that the Golf of the same era that people hate so much.

I believe the Golf was much worse with the problems not just related to oil burning, while Toyota replaced engines with the oil burning problem under a special warranty extension or if it was under a certain amount of miles once the issue was confirmed. It is also a problem that becomes apparent around the 80-100k miles mark or earlier, so any of them over that should either have the problem and be manageable or just not have it at all.

I think I've read up too much on it because I own one :pac:

L-M · 18-04-2012 7:07pm

Sacramento wrote: »

Well I have the saloon version with the same engine. Apart from much over hyped oil burning issues with some engines they are a solid car. Or is there something (very possible) else that I don't know about it?

A 00 Golf is a ten times nicer place to be than a 00 Corrolla.

if you buy a Golf without electric windows, you won't have much more hassle than any other Corolla.

18-04-2012 8:28pm

Limerick man wrote: »

A 00 Golf is a ten times nicer place to be than a 00 Corrolla.

if you buy a Golf without electric windows, you won't have much more hassle than any other Corolla.

Never said anything about how nice a place it was to be, Corolla is fine for me.

I'll quote a few on this forum regarding the 1.4 golf.

Nissan doctor wrote: »

A mk4 golf had vaguely interesting headlights and blue lit dials when it came out...aside from that was as dull as cars come, especially in basic paddy spec and was pretty widely renowned as the low point in the golfs history.

captainspeed wrote: »

The 1.4 Golf has a reputation for being "soft" i.e. giving trouble after 100,000 miles for no apparent reason. Plus the gearboxes can give trouble on them as well. The 1.6 16 valve is just a larger version of the 1.4 so suffers from all the same issues. Not many of them around (thankfully)....

...If you want a reliable 1.4 then your options are either the Focus or the Corolla, both are bulletproof, the Corolla is mind-numbingly boring but is well able to move given its engine size (since it has 97 bhp)...

billbond4 wrote: »

Keep away from 1.4 golf, i.e. besides drinking oil etc.
I had lots of silly things break in it,
like the rear seat latch broke,
glovebox latch broke,
door sensor for lights broke,
Coolant Temp Sensor broke...
And the worst is its really underpowered, its really slow to pull off from dead stop
Save yourself the hassle and get something else. !!

So for me (not just based on above) 00 Corolla 1.4 > 00 Golf 1.4.

Here's another lovely example of a 00 Corolla that's been kept excellently well to keep it on topic.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3066890

E39MSport · 18-04-2012 9:27pm

Furry smurf - but the original point was about the 1.4 v the 1.3 and bomproofability.

The 4e-fe is the winner by a long shot and can do over 40mpg.

18-04-2012 10:28pm

E39MSport wrote: »

Furry smurf - but the original point was about the 1.4 v the 1.3 and bomproofability.

The 4e-fe is the winner by a long shot and can do over 40mpg.

Yes, true. I was addressing the golf and oil burning points as he mentioned them. What's "furry smurf"?

2qk4u · 18-04-2012 10:43pm

I recently bought a 99 1.3 corolla with 120000 miles, I put a new clutch into it and gave it a service, I have done over 1000 miles in it since and the oil is a clean as the day I poured it in and last week I got 200 miles out of €30 of petrol, dont know how many mpg's that is ? Its comfortable and reliable and boring but what do you want for €900 with 3 months tax and four months nct ?
Proper bangernomics ?

18-04-2012 10:51pm

2qk4u wrote: »

I recently bought a 99 1.3 corolla with 120000 miles, I put a new clutch into it and gave it a service, I have done over 1000 miles in it since and the oil is a clean as the day I poured it in and last week I got 200 miles out of €30 of petrol, dont know how many mpg's that is ? Its comfortable and reliable and boring but what do you want for €900 with 3 months tax and four months nct ?
Proper bangernomics ?

That's touching 50 mpg, that's pretty excellent.

unkel · 18-04-2012 11:25pm

2qk4u wrote: »

what do you want for €900 with 3 months tax and four months nct ? Proper bangernomics ?

You spent €900 knowing you had to do the clutch and service it? Not that cheap in my book. But indeed, you got yourself just about the most reliable bangernomics car you can get

tc20 · 18-04-2012 11:44pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3239970

Volvo S40 T4 with a years test, taxed til June, leather etc (and a suspicious looking pair of gloves in the back

)

€1,250

colm_mcm · 18-04-2012 11:46pm

Windey windows in the back, thought a t4 was a high spec

18-04-2012 11:46pm

tc20 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3239970

Volvo S40 T4 with a years test, taxed til June, leather etc (and a suspicious looking pair of gloves in the back )

€1,250

With the black leather gloves and the message "Call me 12-midnight." in his ad, I'd bring a few heavies with me going to see that! :pac:

19-04-2012 12:05am

2qk4u wrote: »

I recently bought a 99 1.3 corolla with 120000 miles, I put a new clutch into it and gave it a service, I have done over 1000 miles in it since and the oil is a clean as the day I poured it in and last week I got 200 miles out of €30 of petrol, dont know how many mpg's that is ? Its comfortable and reliable and boring but what do you want for €900 with 3 months tax and four months nct ?
Proper bangernomics ?

unkel wrote: »

You spent €900 knowing you had to do the clutch and service it? Not that cheap in my book. But indeed, you got yourself just about the most reliable bangernomics car you can get

Lot's of that €900 is for the reliability reputation, it doesn't seem great value considering the clutch was needed to be done.

In fairness I suppose the tax covered your clutch

W123-80's · 19-04-2012 10:53am

New NCT & T/B done.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3207318

Tested & Cheap. Looks clean.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3184161

Leather.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3260579

dahamsta · 19-04-2012 10:55am

The rash of Saabs recently'd make you wonder is there a Best Before date stamped underneath.

Sleepy · 19-04-2012 12:05pm

2qk4u wrote: »

I recently bought a 99 1.3 corolla with 120000 miles, I put a new clutch into it and gave it a service, I have done over 1000 miles in it since and the oil is a clean as the day I poured it in and last week I got 200 miles out of €30 of petrol, dont know how many mpg's that is ? Its comfortable and reliable and boring but what do you want for €900 with 3 months tax and four months nct ?
Proper bangernomics ?

I've a 1999 1.3 as well and it's just shy of 200k. Needs the timing belt done sooner rather than later but since I only shelled out 500 for her (a year, 24,000 miles and a work-free NCT pass ago) I think I'll be spending the few quid. Cheapest motoring I've ever had.

Jimdagym · 19-04-2012 12:14pm

Sleepy wrote: »

I've a 1999 1.3 as well and it's just shy of 200k. Needs the timing belt done sooner rather than later but since I only shelled out 500 for her (a year, 24,000 miles and a work-free NCT pass ago) I think I'll be spending the few quid. Cheapest motoring I've ever had.

What about driving her till she snaps and putting the money off the next bangernomics? I know "better the devil you know" and all that, but still.

L-M · 19-04-2012 12:18pm

Sleepy wrote: »

I've a 1999 1.3 as well and it's just shy of 200k. Needs the timing belt done sooner rather than later but since I only shelled out 500 for her (a year, 24,000 miles and a work-free NCT pass ago) I think I'll be spending the few quid. Cheapest motoring I've ever had.

Aren't they non interference?

19-04-2012 12:25pm

No NCT but still.........

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3246935

220k mile diesel that looks straight.

Could be worth a look.

166man · 19-04-2012 12:32pm

RoverJames wrote: »

No NCT but still.........

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3246935

220k mile diesel that looks straight.

Could be worth a look.

No rev counter? :eek:

Still a decent polish and fresh NCT could see it for another 200k miles.

Mycroft H · 19-04-2012 12:39pm

Limerick man wrote: »

Sleepy wrote: »

I've a 1999 1.3 as well and it's just shy of 200k. Needs the timing belt done sooner rather than later but since I only shelled out 500 for her (a year, 24,000 miles and a work-free NCT pass ago) I think I'll be spending the few quid. Cheapest motoring I've ever had.

Aren't they non interference?

I think they are.

19-04-2012 12:40pm

166man wrote: »

No rev counter? :eek:.............

Yeah, you'd think 'twould have one. I had a 1990 Rover 414si as my first car and that had a rev counter.

The Merc looks smelly enough on the inside, the 1992 250d I bought looked worse though externally

2qk4u · 19-04-2012 12:46pm

RoverJames wrote: »

Lot's of that €900 is for the reliability reputation, it doesn't seem great value considering the clutch was needed to be done.

In fairness I suppose the tax covered your clutch

In the week I was looking for a car I looked at 4 other cars, and they were a bit more expensive and in worse condition or no tax or nct, one was badly crash repaired and was as dodgy as hell, I was running out of time and wasting time and money travelling to look at cars, I wanted a Toyota and this car popped up not far from me, its not the cleanest corolla around but with the new clutch and service I knew it would last which is more important to me at the moment.
I did the clutch and service in my driveway on a friday evening and saturday morning so wasnt expensive like leaving it into a garage, I probably could have found one a bit cheaper if I had more time on my side but at least with this I know it will last..

E39MSport · 19-04-2012 12:52pm

BX 19 wrote: »

I think they are.

Think its the 3e-fe that is NI

19-04-2012 12:53pm

I know, it's all about luck really when going bangernomics if you are limited by time and location, same thing happened me three weeks back.

Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

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