Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

brianregan09 · 16-10-2014 1:14am

Don't think anyone will be doubting marvels balls after Avengers 2 if half of the rumours turn out to be true it could be pretty dark

ancapailldorcha · 16-10-2014 8:27am

Bacchus wrote: »

You don't think there is any way at all to establish Thanos as a credible threat without killing someone?

Why do you assume a foreboding/dark ending to one of the Marvel movies would automatically mean a higher age rating? Iron Man 3 dealt with some fairly grown-up themes and it was PG-13 and a huge success.

I think it would be quite refreshing (and welcomed by audiences) to have one of the MCU movies NOT end with a "hero saves the world" scenario. If the heroes keep on winning every time, audiences will grow weary of the same thing over and over. Their biggest problem right now is their villains, they are disposable and generic. Only Loki has any traction with audiences.

Great as Loki and the Avengers were, the main reason I enjoyed it was the interaction between the heroes. Loki was never a legitimate threat. I don't think there's been a genuinely threatening or menacing Marvel villain yet. There's plenty of exposition on how dangerous a few of them are but when the protagonists come through at the end without so much as a scratch then it's a bit hard to take seriously. I do understand your point. Bane in TDKR never killed any main character and yet he was genuinely menacing. Perhaps it was because of the incorporation of elements from

Broken Bat

or his charisma. Marvel villains bar Loki are severely lacking in the latter.

ricero · 16-10-2014 11:10am

I'm just hoping they bring back red skull into the films. He was a good villian and Hugo weaving played the part well.

Agent Coulson · 16-10-2014 11:21am

ricero wrote: »

I'm just hoping they bring back red skull into the films. He was a good villian and Hugo weaving played the part well.

From what I read he hated the role and won't do it again.

FunLover18 · 16-10-2014 11:32am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

From what I read he hated the role and won't do it again.

With all the make-up he'd be less noticeably replaced

DoYouEvenLift · 23-10-2014 1:15am

Leaked trailer for age of ultron - not bad

Hulk buster is looking hnnngggggg

ancapailldorcha · 23-10-2014 10:29am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do

DoYouEvenLift · 23-10-2014 10:46am

5 million views in like 9 hours...lol that's impressive

FunLover18 · 23-10-2014 9:38pm

Can someone remind me; at the end of Iron Man 3 was Pepper "cured"?

OwaynOTT · 23-10-2014 11:36pm

Yes.

OwaynOTT · 23-10-2014 11:37pm

I wonder if world war hulk is a possibility and civil war just a red herring.

Agent Coulson · 24-10-2014 12:01am

I thinking Planet Hulk with a GotG tie in.

OwaynOTT · 24-10-2014 12:16am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I thinking Planet Hulk with a GotG tie in.

Could see that working and I'd much prefer it to civil war.

Bacchus · 24-10-2014 9:27am

FunLover18 wrote: »

Can someone remind me; at the end of Iron Man 3 was Pepper "cured"?

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Yes.

She still has Extremis though. It's just that it's under control now.

FunLover18 · 24-10-2014 11:29am

Bacchus wrote: »

She still has Extremis though. It's just that it's under control now.

So, is she a superhero?

Bacchus · 24-10-2014 2:30pm

I guess so. With the nature of the power and the "keeping it under control" it could be something she can't just switch on or the power itself could be diminished from what we saw in IM3. Marvel could really go in any direction with it.

FunLover18 · 24-10-2014 2:40pm

Bacchus wrote: »

I guess so. With the nature of the power and the "keeping it under control" it could be something she can't just switch on or the power itself could be diminished from what we saw in IM3. Marvel could really go in any direction with it.

Is it a complete deviation from the comics? Interesting to see how they address it. I presume Paltrow is appearing in AOU

EDIT: it's not on her imdb, so I guess they probably won't be addressing it

cloud493 · 24-10-2014 10:22pm

Lyndsey Fonesca has joined the cast of Agent Carter

:pac:

With "Marvel's Agent Carter" making its way to ABC in 2015, the series has now completed its cast with Lyndsy Fonseca ("Kick-Ass" franchise, "Nikita," "Big Love") joining as Angie Martinelli!

An aspiring actress living in 1946 New York, Angie will befriend Peggy Carter (Hayley Atwell) as she herself seeks to find her place in the post-war world.
"'Marvel's Agent Carter' opens up an exciting world of new characters for us," said Jeph Loeb, Marvel's Head of Television. "Lyndsy brings a warmth and humanity to Angie, who'll be the friend Peggy needs if she's to survive the dangers that lie ahead."

"Marvel's Agent Carter," starring Captain America's Hayley Atwell, follows the story of Peggy Carter. It's 1946, and peace has dealt Peggy Carter a serious blow as she finds herself marginalized when the men return home from fighting abroad. Working for the covert SSR (Strategic Scientific Reserve), Peggy must balance doing administrative work and going on secret missions for Howard Stark all while trying to navigate life as a single woman in America, in the wake of losing the love of her life--Steve Rogers. Inspired by the feature films "Captain America: The First Avenger" and "Captain America: The Winter Soldier," along with the short "Marvel One-Shot: Agent Carter."

Starring Hayley Atwell as Agent Peggy Carter, Chad Michael Murray as SSR Agent Jack Thompson, Enver Gjokaj as SSR Agent Daniel Sousa, James D'Arcy as Edwin Jarvis, and Shea Whigham as SSR Chief Roger Dooley, "Marvel's Agent Carter" was written by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely. Executive producers are Tara Butters, Michele Fazekas, Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely, Chris Dingess, Kevin Feige, Louis D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Joe Quesada, Stan Lee and Jeph Loeb.

"Marvel's Agent Carter" is produced by ABC Studios and Marvel Television.

For more information on "Marvel's Agent Carter" and the other exciting Marvel Television series, stay tuned to Marvel.com.

FunLover18 · 28-10-2014 7:49pm

Phase 3

Captain America: Civil War will be released on May 6, 2016.

Doctor Strange, released on November 4, 2016.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 has a new release date of May 5th, 2017

Thor: Ragnarok will arrive on July 28, 2017.

Black Panther, played by Chadwick Boseman, will be released November 3, 2017

Captain Marvel, confirmed as Carol Danvers, will be released July 6, 2018.

Meanwhile, a new group of heroes will be introduced in Inhumans, which will hit cinemas on November 2, 2018.

Oops, left out the most important part: Feige confirmed that May 4, 2018 would belong to a two-part third and fourth Avengers film titled: The Avengers: Infinity War. Part two will follow on May 3, 2019.

Agent Coulson · 28-10-2014 8:15pm

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/10/28/marvel-studios-reveal/

Agent Coulson · 28-10-2014 8:18pm

Re; Deal with Sony.

Will Marvel Studios join up with Sony Pictures to share Spider-Man? “Anything that wasn’t specifically revealed today is either not true at all or still rumor,” Feige says.

On Hulk.

Feige tells reporters that Hulk and Mark Ruffalo will appear in all of the Avengers films, but he has not yet set a stand-alone for him. “Who will be in what movie is a spoiler, due to what will happen to them in the earlier movies,”

cloud493 · 28-10-2014 8:19pm

Zero-Cool · 28-10-2014 8:22pm

Not the biggest cap fan but i cannot f*cking wait for Civil War!!!!

RobbingBandit · 28-10-2014 8:29pm

There is a lot that can't be done without Reed Richards and the Fantastic Four and Spiderman, even newer stuff like the Illuminati would need Professor X and Namor and Black Bolt.

Agent Coulson · 28-10-2014 8:33pm

If there is a chance of Sony and Fox joining with Marvel they would be crazy to not to do business getting Spidey and the X-Men into the MCU would be like printing money for all involved.

cloud493 · 28-10-2014 8:34pm

Virtanen · 28-10-2014 11:49pm

So, Ant-Man is part of Phase Two? Makes me wonder whether

Ultron will carry over to it. Edgar Wright said he wouldn't, but of course he's not involved any more

pixelburp · 29-10-2014 12:03am

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

A hell of an assault by Marvel though, they really mean business - in every sense of the word: so for those of us only casually acquainted with comic mythologies, which of these original properties is worth getting excited about?

Agent Coulson · 29-10-2014 12:07am

pixelburp wrote: »

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

A hell of an assault by Marvel though, they really mean business - in every sense of the word: so for those of us only casually acquainted with comic mythologies, which of these original properties is worth getting excited about?

Doctor Strange!

Corholio · 29-10-2014 12:17am

pixelburp wrote: »

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

A hell of an assault by Marvel though, they really mean business - in every sense of the word: so for those of us only casually acquainted with comic mythologies, which of these original properties is worth getting excited about?

Doctor Strange for me is the one I'm looking forward to. He won't be like any Marvel character we've seen, or at least he shouldn't be. Inhumans is the other one that will be different, Black Bolt is a character I've been hoping they'd bring to screen. In a way I hope they don't tie them into Avengers (or Fantastic Four) straight away and let them have their own time. With Marvel's quite pedestrian use of the Avengers, Inhumans are a more interesting group dynamically.

Infinity Wars is too far away to judge, a lot will depend on how all the other films go. Captain Marvel I can give or take really. Black Panther has the potential to be really good, but it needs a really good villain, something Marvel have fallen down on continuously. Klaw is the obvious one, but will be a hard push to translate his superpower on screen IMO.

JP Liz V1 · 29-10-2014 12:23am

Chadwick Boseman cast as Black Panther

Nervous Wreck · 29-10-2014 10:06pm

pixelburp wrote: »

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

A hell of an assault by Marvel though, they really mean business - in every sense of the word: so for those of us only casually acquainted with comic mythologies, which of these original properties is worth getting excited about?

Personally, I'm still most excited about about Ant-Man, but that's possibly because it's the next movie. But I do like that it will be about

a thief becoming a hero

, which will be a nice (kind of) change of pace.

I'm chuffed that they're gong with the Carol Danvers version of Captain Marvel, if only for the change of pace. A female lead is definitely a long time coming, though I'd say Scarlett Johanssen is pissssssssed!

Doctor Strange is very exciting, particularly with Cumberbatch having been cast. I reckon he'll be fantastic. Strange has a good origin story and would happily stand alone as a flick too.

I've never really gotten into The Inhumans so I'm not super excited for it but it should defo be a fun film with a fair bit of action.

thebostoncrab · 29-10-2014 10:25pm

pixelburp wrote: »

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

I'm the opposite. The Infinity Gauntlet storyline is massive, and trying to put it into one film would leave some much out in the long run. By having it was a two parter it will get the very best out of the story and give it the massive epic setting that the title deserves.

Plus, the story has a fantastic natural cliffhanger COMIC SPOILERS:

Thanos clicking his fingers and whipping out half the universe and the first failed attack on him by the heroes

it should leaves audiences craving the second film even more.

DoYouEvenLift · 29-10-2014 10:42pm

Is avengers infinity war gonna be the last avengers movie? I thought there was gonna be an avengers 4? Unless 'part 2' is actually the 4th movie? Really don't like splitting movies into parts like that, especially if there are further sequels to come

And if someone doesn't die soon it'll be so stupid, just the same old same old in each movie with no real sense of threat emerging from any of the villains until thanos

sky88 · 29-10-2014 11:14pm

Love the sound of the linup although the toughts of being 31 by the time infinity war part 2 comes out

Squeedily Spooch · 30-10-2014 1:31am

pixelburp wrote: »

My heart sank a little when I saw the 'Part 1 and 2' for the next (next?) Avengers film: while more of a phenomenon with book adaptations, there are few more blatant / cynical money-wringing exercises than studios' attempts to elongate franchises with split sequels.

A hell of an assault by Marvel though, they really mean business - in every sense of the word: so for those of us only casually acquainted with comic mythologies, which of these original properties is worth getting excited about?

There's far too much in the Infinity War arc to fit it into a single movie less than 2.5hrs though, two movies actually warrants it for a change.

SouthTippBass · 30-10-2014 10:37am

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Doctor Strange is very exciting, particularly with Cumberbatch having been cast. I reckon he'll be fantastic. Strange has a good origin story and would happily stand alone as a flick too.

The Dr.Strange movie wont be an origin story though. He will be a fully fledged master of the mystic arts from the get go.

cloud493 · 30-10-2014 10:42am

Probably wont be exactly the same line up of avengers by infinity wars. Certainly things could have changed a bit by the time we get there.

FunLover18 · 30-10-2014 10:55am

SouthTippBass wrote: »

The Dr.Strange movie wont be an origin story though. He will be a fully fledged master of the mystic arts from the get go.

Has that been confirmed?

SouthTippBass · 30-10-2014 1:33pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Has that been confirmed?

Pretty sure it has, I'm in work though so cant find the link for you now.

FunLover18 · 30-10-2014 1:35pm

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Pretty sure it has, I'm in work though so cant find the link for you now.

It would seem you are correct

Agent Coulson · 30-10-2014 1:38pm

I wouldn't be suprised if Doctor Strange was to apper in an episode or two of AoS as a way of doing his an intro origin story.

FunLover18 · 30-10-2014 1:42pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I wouldn't be suprised if Doctor Strange was to apper in an episode or two of AoS as a way of doing his an intro origin story.

It does seem odd that they're deciding to try this with the lesser known characters. I suppose they could do what The Incredible Hulk did and do an origins montage in the opening credits. I wouldn't be surprised if BP had a cameo in Cap 3

Bacchus · 30-10-2014 3:06pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

It does seem odd that they're deciding to try this with the lesser known characters. I suppose they could do what The Incredible Hulk did and do an origins montage in the opening credits. I wouldn't be surprised if BP had a cameo in Cap 3

With Hulk though, they had already done an origins story quite recently in the Ang Lee version. I always thought of The Incredible Hulk as a sort of sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk with the origins montage redone with the new characters.

It would be interesting to see them skip the origins story though. I like origins stories but often origins movies follow the same formula of introducing the character and all the problems in their life, something happens (spider bite, radiation, experiment gone wrong) and they get their powers. Little do they know, they have also created a monster who they will have a brief fight with before building up to the final big showdown between the two. The hero wins and learns a valuable life lesson in the process.

FunLover18 · 30-10-2014 3:47pm

Bacchus wrote: »

With Hulk though, they had already done an origins story quite recently in the Ang Lee version. I always thought of The Incredible Hulk as a sort of sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk with the origins montage redone with the new characters.

It would be interesting to see them skip the origins story though. I like origins stories but often origins movies follow the same formula of introducing the character and all the problems in their life, something happens (spider bite, radiation, experiment gone wrong) and they get their powers. Little do they know, they have also created a monster who they will have a brief fight with before building up to the final big showdown between the two. The hero wins and learns a valuable life lesson in the process.

I always saw The Incredible Hulk as a complete reboot. For one thing there's the fact that the Hulk in Ang Lee's version can get bigger depending on how angry he is (and so can his trousers).

I think they're going to find some way of letting audiences in on the origins. From what I've heard about Strange his origins are fairly important and indicative of his character.

Agent Coulson · 31-10-2014 2:17pm

LL Cool J Is Joining The Marvel Cinematic Universe. (Maybe)

The rapper was then peppered with questions asking whether he would be featuring in the now confirmed Black Panther origin story, or perhaps as Luke Cage. At this point he hasn’t yet responded to these questions. Instead, the only follow-up has been a re-Tweet of a news story about his original Tweet. If you're like me, you're having flashbacks of Vin Diesel’s similar and successful attempt to land himself a role in the Marvel world

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cool-J-Joining-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-67947.html

https://twitter.com/llcoolj/status/527292270324637696

The Black Oil · 31-10-2014 11:46pm

I know they have some plans and releases, but are DC a little rudderless in comparison - do they have a public face like Feige?

Nervous Wreck · 01-11-2014 12:13am

The Incredible Hulk was a reboot. Feige has confirmed that Ang Lees Hulk is not part of MCU canon. Thank jaysus.

DoYouEvenLift · 01-11-2014 1:56am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

LL Cool J Is Joining The Marvel Cinematic Universe. (Maybe)

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Cool-J-Joining-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-67947.html

https://twitter.com/llcoolj/status/527292270324637696

Can't even complete his sentence properly, looks promising.

Soft Falling Rain · 01-11-2014 10:30am

The Black Oil wrote: »

I know they have some plans and releases, but are DC a little rudderless in comparison - do they have a public face like Feige?

No public face, closest one would be Snyder who has spoken about plans for various heroes (even going as far as ringing a radio jock who was slating Aquaman).

In fairness to DC they were the first ones to release their detailed slate for the next couple of years. I think one of the actors, possibly Momoa, spoke enthusiastically about Warner/DC plans for a multi film all encompassing storyline (ie what happens in DoJ is going to have a direct impact on what happens in Wonder Woman and the Suicide Squad, which will effect JL, which will effect Aquaman and Flash etc etc).

DC and Warner have been poor in their preparation, which is probably not helped by the fact that Warner are releasing god knows how many films per year in comparison to Msrvel's 2 or 3. Warner simply have more to focus on but I do think they're finally getting it together. Their plans do seem more coherent now and the right noises are being made, such as the rumour that origins are not going to consume their films, merely alluded to in flashbacks.

They have to separate themselves from Marvel's formula, and at least they look to be trying hard now.

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