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Dunphy describes Ireland as a Kip, a Dump.

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  • #102
    waxon-waxoff
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭waxon-waxoff


    adocholiday wrote: »
    He's one of the few in our national media who will tell it like it is. His salary is irrelevant to this argument. Are you saying that his opinion isn't valid because of how much he earns?

    He has experienced our healthcare system first hand with his sick grandson and he can empathise with the average joe on the street. That counts for a hell of a lot in my opinion. Rather than people ringing Joe Duffy making arguments that aren't heard, Dunphy and others like him are in a position to bring the views of the Irish people into the spotlight. We need more of that!

    I know what you mean but i dont like a wealthy and successful person turning around and saying the place is a dump when its been so good to him. If somebody waiting for their flight to oz said this it would be more relevant. If he was so bothered he should concentrate on political reporting instead of sport


  • #103
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    "We should be doing something about it" from people not doing a thing and waiting for someone else to start the ball rolling. Always amusing...

    People aren't motivated enough yet to do something.

    Here's an example of something that someone posted two years ago:
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Illegal downloaders will be sent a warning e-mail, then a letter if they continue, and finally must appear before a judge if they offend again.

    The judge can impose a fine, or suspend their access to the internet.

    This will inevitably spread throughout the rest of the EU through ATCA.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8436745.stm

    Nobody gave a crap, not as much as a single thanks.

    And this week.

    Same topic has nearly 500 replies, 35,000 views and 1500 thanks(a boards record).
    But if people aren't motivated enough, why the whingeing and self flagellation non... stop? Why the "We should be protesting" instead of... protesting? Me suspects it's because people who engage so much in the above don't actually have it that bad, and when they say "we" should be protesting, they mean other people.


  • #104
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    couldntthink wrote: »
    I'm sick of all the people on here, and in the real world, who keep going on about how Ireland is a dump and it's fcuked blah blah blah blah.........

    If you don't like it, F*** OFF. Let the rest of us get on with it, we don't want you here, bringing the rest of us down.



    Looking forward to all the smart arse replies..................:D
    You remind me of Joe Kinnear! :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdETq7ZGgQ

    Seriously though. This is no time to be giving ourselves a pat on the back. The country is was a decent semi detached house, then we got the builders in after buying next door but ran out of money while the place was being ripped apart. (Jesus, after that celtic tiger I'm even giving analogies in building terms:pac:)
    At least the other ****ers have been kicked out now, but the pressure needs to be put on the government 24/7 to get things swinging back in the right direction. Sure, it's head wrecking at times, but essential people remember just how much we have been ****ed over here. They're proposing to pay this debt back over a time period where by the time it's paid off, all of us posting will be dead:eek:
    We should probably be rioting on the streets to be honest, maybe in the next 3 years we'll see that happening...


  • #105
    nommm
    Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nommm


    No it's not a kip. In fact, it's actually a beautiful country and is regarded as such internationally.

    There are a lot of things wrong with this country, mostly **** governments, but being a dump/kip isn't one of them.


  • #106
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    I.e not vote? Either way Fine Gael or Labour were going to get into government

    No, do something oneself if one is so repulsed by the choices.


  • #107
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Dudess wrote: »
    "We should be doing something about it" from people not doing a thing and waiting for someone else to start the ball rolling. Always amusing...

    Actually I think he (Dunphy) was involved in some political initiative before the last election with McWilliams.


  • #108
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Dudess wrote: »
    But if people aren't motivated enough, why the whingeing and self flagellation non... stop? Why the "We should be protesting" instead of... protesting? Me suspects it's because people who engage so much in the above don't actually have it that bad, and when they say "we" should be protesting, they mean other people.

    You cynic.


  • #109
    ChunkyLover54
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    its just asshole celtic tiger me feiners, the conceited, the dishonest, the hypocrites, the corrupt politicians and the bankers

    some day a real rain will come....


  • #110
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    TheZohan wrote: »
    What's so great about Ireland? Is all that's going for it the fact that we don't have war and that we have water?!

    Are you happy here?



    A lot happier than I would be in other countries.


    Not having war and having potable water is, believe it or not, a fairly big massive huge deal, even in 2012.

    You don't know the meaning of the word suffering.


    Have a look at where Ireland is here compared to other countries: http://www.prosperity.com/


  • #111
    igorbiscan
    Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭igorbiscan


    This kip is probably the only country in the world that would put up with Dunphys mug getting onto national television :pac:


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  • #112
    Mr Trade In
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    What does Roy Keane have to say about it?


  • #113
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Cicero wrote: »
    Does this thread conform to R&R rules where you have to agree with the OP or does anything go?

    It's not in R&R...so, no :)

    OP, without the negativity you wouldn't know you were so positive! :D


  • #114
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    I like Dunphy and his antics. He's always an idiot who says the most unbelievable stuff.:D

    He's more entertaining than the football he's supposed to be analysing.:D

    He said these comments with his typical diplomacy. He has a point but his brash demeanour and his reputation for sensationalism will always go against him.

    He certainly has a point but the manner it which it is phrased, and the general mannerisms of Dunphy and how he usually posits arguments are always this way. I would agree with the sentiments he is trying to express, he's just not very good at expressing these views in an acceptable or reasonable manner.


  • #115
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭policarp


    Give Gob****e a job. . .


  • #116
    k.p.h
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Dudess wrote: »
    But if people aren't motivated enough, why the whingeing and self flagellation non... stop? Why the "We should be protesting" instead of... protesting? Me suspects it's because people who engage so much in the above don't actually have it that bad, and when they say "we" should be protesting, they mean other people.

    That how the squeeze works though.

    Consider this analogy.

    A slave owner, he feeds his slaves and give them beds and shelter. This way they don't complain and can still work and be productive. The slaves still still toil and work but don't try to escape because if these amenities supplied by the slave owner were taken away, even for the sake of freedom things would immediately get a lot harder....

    That is where we stand today and that is why we are not protesting, we are getting squeezed just enough that we will take it.

    1.2 billion of our money just went to private hands this week, and a lot more is going that way. That flexibility that Kenny was talking last night will not be to our benefit but rather the bond holders and powers that be. I think Kenny is a bit dazed by this whole situation. If someone gives you more time to pay something back they are not doing you a favor, they are just making sure they get paid eventually.


  • #117
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    bleg wrote: »
    A lot happier than I would be in other countries.


    Not having war and having potable water is, believe it or not, a fairly big massive huge deal, even in 2011.

    You don't know the meaning of the word suffering.

    Lets not patronise each other, of course I know the meaning of the word suffering.

    You're a qualified pharmacist, right? Tough enough job to get into, I'm sure you worked your ass off for it with college etc. But your job gives you a lot more stability than other jobs. There are hundreds of thousands of people out of work, what's the figure now? over 400,000? That's a huge increase from 70 odd thousand during the boom. There are lots of families suffering in this country, just because you might be in a good position now doesn't negate the fact that we have an extra 330,000 unemployed at the moment. That's a lot of people.


  • #118
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    ChunkyLover54 wrote: »
    some day a real rain will come....
    Travis Bickle wrote:
    All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. I go all over. I take people to the Bronx, Brooklyn, I take 'em to Harlem. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take spooks. Don't make no difference to me.

    :D

    Half that description could describe Dunphy.


  • #119
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    I'd hate to think what the people who are pissing and moaning now would have made of the life their parents and grandparents had to put up with.

    We think this is hardship? Gimmie a break.


  • #120
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Lets not patronise each other, of course I know the meaning of the word suffering.

    You're a qualified pharmacist, right? Tough enough job to get into, I'm sure you worked your ass off for it with college etc. But your job gives you a lot more stability than other jobs. There are hundreds of thousands of people out of work, what's the figure now? over 400,000? That's a huge increase from 70 odd thousand during the boom. There are lots of families suffering in this country, just because you might be in a good position now doesn't negate the fact that we have an extra 330,000 unemployed at the moment. That's a lot of people.


    I think we're on the same wavelength but on opposite ends. Ireland is a good country to live in, one of the best in fact, though it's not perfect. Economic cycles by their very nature are cyclical. Just like the "good times" didn't last forever the "bad times" won't last forever either.


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  • #121
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    I'd hate to think what the people who are pissing and moaning now would have made of the life their parents and grandparents had to put up with.

    We think this is hardship? Gimmie a break.

    "Back in my day we had to walk 5 miles barefoot through the snow to school.. and 7 miles back!!"

    'Yadda yadda!


  • #122
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    "Back in my day we had to walk 5 miles barefoot through the snow to school.. and 7 miles back!!"

    'Yadda yadda!

    Yadda, yadda:rolleyes:

    Perhaps a visit to http://www.museum.ie/en/intro/country-life.aspx would realise that life isn't so bad here. Just because some of us can't afford that overpriced home they bought doesn't mean the life is that hard here.

    We got accustomed to a lifestyle that was unsustainable because pay and tax got out of hand. A labourer in another country wouldn't be able to afford two sun holidays a year, and the same will be the case here. Our lifestyle has to return to international norms. It will be hard to adjust to, but we have no choice in the matter.


  • #123
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Somebody said our Health Service is crap.

    I don't know. My Dad couldn't get a private room to pass away in privacy, despite paying Health Insurance all his working life.

    Damn fecking annoying and infuriating.

    Crap? No. He died in peace, had fantastic care, the best medication, heat, decent food and great staff attending to him.

    Yep, first world problems, definitely! ;)

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #124
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Yadda, yadda:rolleyes:

    Perhaps a visit to http://www.museum.ie/en/intro/country-life.aspx would realise that life isn't so bad here. Just because some of us can't afford that overpriced home they bought doesn't mean the life is that hard here.

    We got accustomed to a lifestyle that was unsustainable because pay and tax zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................................

    fyp


  • #125
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    OP, I think you are confusing negativity with realism.

    If i'm being bent over a car bonnet with a massive 9ft hairy gay guy behind me about to f*ck me, forgive me if I react with appropriate scorn.

    And in case you haven't noticed, we're all figuratively bent over a car bonnet right now and have been for a good while now.

    So forgive me if i don't look over my shoulder and say "Thank you sir, may I have some more?"

    You've put a fair bit of thought into this, haven't you.;)


  • #126
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    fyp

    Intelligent and witty riposte as always Mr. Stuffins :rolleyes:


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  • #127
    LighterGuy
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    fyp

    You're a very rude man Stuffins :pac:
    But I like you. You are my type of guy :pac:


  • #128
    grenache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    My_left_leg wrote: »
    Was he correct to describe our little country as a dump?
    Yes.


  • #129
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sindri wrote: »
    You've put a fair bit of thought into this, haven't you.;)

    Yup. His name is Rodrigo!! :pac:
    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Intelligent and witty riposte as always Mr. Stuffins :rolleyes:

    Thank you
    LighterGuy wrote: »
    You're a very rude man Stuffins :pac:
    But I like you. You are my type of guy :pac:

    I prefer the term "Impertinent!"


  • #130
    Sitec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    I've lived here for 25 years baby


  • #131
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    its a good country just run by a shower of cnuts


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  • #132
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    give us a bite, baby

    see his Mcdonalds ad?! Flogging junk from a dump suggests some kind of tinker


  • #133
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Who runs the dump at night..... only the rats.


  • #134
    gammygils
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭gammygils


    He's right. It's a ****hole! I mean look around you. It's full of knacks and scumbags!


  • #135
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    "Thank you sir, may I have some more?"

    that's a negative now back into your manacles, billy be little


  • #136
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    gammygils wrote: »
    He's right. It's a ****hole! I mean look around you. It's full of knacks and scumbags!

    *Looks*


    *Sees only gammygills*


    :pac:


  • #137
    Sharpshooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    couldntthink wrote: »
    I'm sick of all the people on here, and in the real world, who keep going on about how Ireland is a dump and it's fcuked blah blah blah blah.........

    If you don't like it, F*** OFF. Let the rest of us get on with it, we don't want you here, bringing the rest of us down.



    Looking forward to all the smart arse replies..................:D

    I have a soft spot for Eamon Dunphy,you were watching him on the LL,yes?

    He tells it like it is!;)

    Thread Merge.


  • #138
    Mr.Biscuits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    Was this now, or did he say it in 2222?


  • #139
    CageWager
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    Dunphy is a gigantic spa


  • #140
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Dunphy has a personality disorder and should not be employed by TV stations/media until a doctor gives the OK. If he can't find decent coke in Ireland he should fcuk off back to La Belle France and stay there. At least over there the garlic will counteract his halitosis :mad: and there are better face-lift clinics. :D


  • #141
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    gammygils wrote: »
    He's right. It's a ****hole! I mean look around you. It's full of knacks and scumbags!
    Nah I disagree. I've looked around me - it's grand.


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  • #142
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    I've been travelling around Europe quite a bit recently and I can assure you Ireland is NOT a dump!

    Compared to most places I visited, it's very pretty and high quality looking!

    Quite a lot of European cities and town have architectural old cores and utterly grim new suburbs consisting of faceless apartment blocks.

    Even France is full of crappy looking urban areas that would depress you on a wet day in a way that very few Irish town would!

    Also Irish food (not traditional, but I mean cafes, etc) is extremely varied and good! You can nearly starve in France if you dislike microwaved reheated soggy ham and cheese toasted sandwiches eh, croque Monsieur etc etc

    Anyway, if you think Ireland is a kip ... Travel ...you'll come back with very different perspectives ...

    The only thing I do think is dire here is the weather !!


  • #143
    Park Royal
    Registered Users Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Park Royal


    I love Ireland, each morning I get to ride out from my picturesque farmhouse

    near Grange on various trails . There are some wonderful stretches of beach

    for fast gallops.

    When a few EU cheques have accumulated I go to the town with the whole

    family and spend the day shopping having lunch out...see some of Sligo's art

    galleries, shops, restaurants.....depending on the farm

    demands..the guests who use the self catering apartments ( converted old

    stables) mostly young people dont become too busy until June....so I have

    loads of time to look after the farm and the hill sheep ..etc....

    I think Ireland is the best place in the world..... ....Dunphy has his glue...


  • #144
    markesmith
    Registered Users Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    gammygils wrote: »
    He's right. It's a ****hole! I mean look around you. It's full of knacks and scumbags!

    Yeah but you're in Tuam. We're talking about Ireland here, not the worst parts of it.


  • #145
    Badgermonkey
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    Solair wrote: »

    Compared to most places I visited, it's very pretty and high quality looking!

    Quite a lot of European cities and town have architectural old cores and utterly grim new suburbs consisting of faceless apartment blocks.

    The Dunph wasn't making reference to our built environment or the aesthetics of our towns and cities.


  • #146
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    It is a shíthole.
    Would want to have some serious problems to not see that.


  • #147
    stevedublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    No i dont like it dont like it at all.

    You don't like Ireland, or you don't like Dunphy calling Ireland a dump?


  • #148
    MysticalRain
    Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭MysticalRain


    Ireland is a grand little country if you happen to have a safe, secure pensionable job, are not in negative equity, or have children with special needs, or on a hospital waiting list with a serious illness. For those that don't however, they may be forgiven for thinking at times that Ireland really does seem like a dump.


  • #149
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    K-9 wrote: »
    Somebody said our Health Service is crap.

    I don't know. My Dad couldn't get a private room to pass away in privacy, despite paying Health Insurance all his working life.

    Damn fecking annoying and infuriating.

    Crap? No. He died in peace, had fantastic care, the best medication, heat, decent food and great staff attending to him.

    Yep, first world problems, definitely! ;)


    The poster I think you are referring to, was not attacking Health Service staff. But rather its treatment by successive governments.


  • #150
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    SV wrote: »
    It is a shíthole.
    Would want to have some serious problems to not see that.
    Serious problems? Hyperbole much?
    If having a bit of perspective is akin to having serious problems, then what does one call making OTT statements like yours?
    Ireland does have problems - no question. There are some people going through awful difficulties. This does not make it a sh1t-hole. Standard of living here in general is off the chart. I look out at where I live - an old-skool working-class part of Cork, and I just see comfort and contentment thankfully.

    Seriously, are the spoilt brats on this thread for real? F'ucking Celtic Tiger cubs. I remember Ireland in the 80s when things were infinitely bleaker and it WAS a bit of a ****-hole. Don't care if I sound like an auld fogey - some kids today really don't know how good they have it. Because they're used to such excess during the "boom".


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  • #151
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    TheZohan wrote: »
    People aren't motivated enough yet to do something.

    Here's an example of something that someone posted two years ago:



    Nobody gave a crap, not as much as a single thanks.

    And this week.

    Same topic has nearly 500 replies, 35,000 views and 1500 thanks(a boards record).


    TheZohan, I take my hat off to you Sherlock. Most excellent indeed.


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