CM Punk Megathread

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:12pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Also thinking about it, I don't just support Punk cause of how he's trying to actually further his own career, but also in terms of how it's bit of a protest against something which damages WWE for the fans.

We constantly hear about WWE's inability to build stars and how they simply blame "not getting over" on the wrestlers themselves. But Punk (and Bryan) are examples of people who have gotten over, who are becoming modern day stars....and yet WWE still don't give a ****, and don't book them accordingly.

A walk-out/protest is actually something that would do the fans good, cause it might make WWE stop and think about what's happening. It's a shame there's not a viable alternative (No, I do not consider TNA to be one), cause if Punk actually moved somewhere, it would cause major shockwaves. He also could pull people with him. But with nowhere to go, he probably won't be able to convince smaller guys unfortunately. There's a lot of guys who could stand to be treated better by WWE right now.

This a million times. Not over with the fans? sure that's your fault, over with the fans? welll WE didn't get you over so hold on their mister don't be thinking you're too big for your boots now settle down.

The ego of Vince and WWE in general when it comes to guys getting themselves over is actually insane. Any other company would be be like "holy sh1t the fans love this guy, run with it" but nope, not Vince.

A Primal Nut · 29-01-2014 5:13pm

I haven't been watching WWE for a while, I was shocked when I heard Cena vs Wyatt and Orton vs Batista would be main events at WrestleMania. They don't cut it or anywhere close. Both Bryan vs HHH and Taker vs Lesner would be much bigger and if that's the case the unified WWE title match would probably be the third or fourth biggest match on the show.

A Rogue Hobo · 29-01-2014 5:15pm

krudler wrote: »

He still has plenty of that in him though, and is being pushed aside for someone who's nearly 50 and has had all that too.

I really think too many people are reading too much into the Batista thing, he says himself in the Aerial Helwani interview that he doesn't have much of a problem with Batista coming back because he's doing exactly what Rock didn't do and is back on a 2 year full time contract. I think if anything Punk respects that a bit more to be honest.

BMMachine · 29-01-2014 5:17pm

WWE had the chance to have Punk vs. Bryan as the main event of this years WM. a pivotal match for a pivotal moment in the company. instead they go with the boring route with batista and of course, HHH comes in - "oh daniel bryan is really really over with the fans is he? WELL I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO FEUD WITH HIM BECAUSE IM ME AND IM GREAT" just like he did with punk in 2011. how the f**k are they so against doing great things with the talent they have?

Professional Griefer · 29-01-2014 5:17pm

The decision to bring back Batista is getting worse every day. 2 more years of him, ugh.

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:19pm

Professional Griefer wrote: »

The decision to bring back Batista is getting worse every day. 2 more years of him, ugh.

The gust of wind from the chamber door opening might tear a muscle on him though.

Was delighted when Reigns drilled him with that spear after Batista botched his own one, looked messy as hell.

Professional Griefer · 29-01-2014 5:27pm

krudler wrote: »

The gust of wind from the chamber door opening might tear a muscle on him though.

Was delighted when Reigns drilled him with that spear after Batista botched his own one, looked messy as hell.

One can only hope, hes not in it though is he?

brianregan09 · 29-01-2014 5:28pm

Just home having read this and I'm pissed off about it and not really shocked either, Because since Wrestlemania last year...Punk has done nothing of note really (outside the Lesnar feud)

and if i was in his position i'd be pretty pissed off too, Fare enough the Rock comes in and takes his spot hes a massive mainstream movie star and Wrestler and could make huge money for WWE , but Batista ....really ? and against Orton thats just plain stupid like why not even put Punk against Batista at least that'd been fresh and something we've never seen before

I hope he comes back for Wrestlemania

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:30pm

Professional Griefer wrote: »

One can only hope, hes not in it though is he?

I don't think he is, I was talking about him standing backstage and feeling a draft :pac:

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 5:31pm

Most reports are saying it has little to do with Batista. It's mostly down to Bryan getting put ahead of him now. If it was down to Batista, surely it would have happened a few weeks back?

sockmo · 29-01-2014 5:31pm

We're being worked brah!

Loughc · 29-01-2014 5:32pm

sockmo wrote: »

We're being worked brah!

Really don't see this turning out to be a work.

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 5:33pm

Loughc wrote: »

Really don't see this turning out to be a work.

A lot live in denial. Just look at how many are still claiming the Daniel Bryan stuff has been planned all along.

brianregan09 · 29-01-2014 5:36pm

Such a balls too with Sting more than likely signing would have loved to see them go at it

rovert · 29-01-2014 5:38pm

sockmo wrote: »

We're being worked brah!

Working the internet
???
Profit

The Ayatolla · 29-01-2014 5:40pm

It's very rare that the WWE will work the marks and smarks all at the same time.

I feel this is one of those moments.

Moneymaker · 29-01-2014 5:41pm

mikey13 wrote: »

He's not acting like a child he's upset about his career not going anywhere and he has the money to allow him to quit, he's done what we all wish we could do!

Not going anywhere? He had a lengthy title reign, wrestled the Rock, the Undertaker and Brock Lesnar. Multiple title wins. All while earning millions.

Must really suck to be him. :rolleyes:

Austin reflects back on when he walked out in 2002 and he's admitted it was a stupid thing to do. So is this.

Diabhal Beag · 29-01-2014 5:43pm

Aye but Punk doesn't want to be a Jericho-type. He wants the Cena-level recognition and he won't get that by being forgotten about come Mania.

Soft Falling Rain · 29-01-2014 5:45pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Most reports are saying it has little to do with Batista. It's mostly down to Bryan getting put ahead of him now. If it was down to Batista, surely it would have happened a few weeks back?

I would find that difficult to believe tbh, probably "info" intentionally leaked to make Punk appear in the worst light possible.

mikey13 · 29-01-2014 5:45pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

Not going anywhere? He had a lengthy title reign, wrestled the Rock, the Undertaker and Brock Lesnar. Multiple title wins. All while earning millions.

Must really suck to be him. :rolleyes:

Austin reflects back on when he walked out in 2002 and he's admitted it was a stupid thing to do. So is this.

That was last year hes spent months fighting the shield with no real purpose they obviously not trying to keep him past July so fair play to him for going on his own terms

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 5:47pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

I would find that difficult to believe tbh, probably "info" intentionally leaked to make Punk appear in the worst light possible.

I wouldnt. Punk was expecting to face Triple H and now it looks like Bryan is getting that match. Punk now ends up with Kane. That's a mid card match.

Garseys · 29-01-2014 5:49pm

I'd be utterly shocked that he'd walk over Bryan been given a programme over him, especially one with Hunter.

Soft Falling Rain · 29-01-2014 5:50pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I wouldnt. Punk was expecting to face Triple H and now it looks like Bryan is getting that match. Punk now ends up with Kane. That's a mid card match.

There's nothing to suggest (either in terms of reports or what we see every week) that they were going in the direction of Trips/Bryan until last Monday.

Moneymaker · 29-01-2014 5:50pm

mikey13 wrote: »

That was last year hes spent months fighting the shield with no real purpose they obviously not trying to keep him past July so fair play to him for going on his own terms

He could at least leave with some dignity. He's not the first wrestler to be mishandled. I'm pretty sure his last PPV is meant to be in Chicago so he could have left with a great sendoff. I'm sure the door is still open for that to happen but who knows.

Fwiw I expected him to be gone in the summer(pretty sure I posted as much, and this was months ago), his attitude and demeanor are someone who's done with wrestling.

He leaves with money saved and a very comfortable life ahead of him. Best of luck to him.

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:51pm

rovert wrote: »

Working the internet
???
Profit

work internet too much
people get annoyed
?????
probably still profit

Ah who knows anymore.

thebostoncrab · 29-01-2014 5:51pm

Getting annoyed with Batsita getting blame for this from people, Punk was interviewed last week and said he has no problems with Batsita being signed 'cause he is in it for the long run

deano546 · 29-01-2014 5:52pm

ProWrestling.net

I was at Punk's Portland Comic Con and I didn't feel the need to relay the information until he departed from WWE. There are two key parts of his Q&A that stand out in retrospect.

1. He was very upset about Batista getting the WrestleMania main event, which pretty much spoiled the Royal Rumble. He clarified he was friends with "Dave" and that "they" would not be happy, but he wanted to be honest and it was Daniel Bryan's year. Actually, he said Bryan Danielson but corrected quickly.

2. He was very disinterested in the current product. Asked about promos he defeatedly made comments like "I show up. Someone tells me what to do and I just go out do it and leave." He implied his recent work was not good and was down to only using two moves a match.

Loughc · 29-01-2014 5:52pm

I don't think Bryan getting Punk's spot is the reason he walked out, there's plenty of other problems with the WWE and Punk at the moment.

I think Bryan is now in Punk's spot because of the walk out.

buckfasterer · 29-01-2014 5:52pm

It's a shame Raw wasn't going to be in Chicago this Monday coming. That could have been fantastic to watch for crowd atmosphere alone.

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:53pm

Garseys wrote: »

I'd be utterly shocked that he'd walk over Bryan been given a programme over him, especially one with Hunter.

Yeah, you'd think Bryan would be one of the types of guys Punk would want elevated to work with, sure Punk was laughing his ass off the time a load of them were in the ring and the entire crowd was chanting for Bryan.

GTR63 · 29-01-2014 5:55pm

rovert wrote: »

Picture of CM Punk and Triple H on Sunday:

Couldn`t imagine Teddy Hart kicking Keano`s ass. :pac: :pac: :pac:

krudler · 29-01-2014 5:57pm

On a side note, this whole thing is far more interesting than anything creative have come up with in years!

anyone else think that wrestling booking is going to veer more into this sort of stuff in the future, you can't fool fans anymore with angles, so meet them on their own turf and blur the lines of reality and fantasy.

ShagNastii · 29-01-2014 5:58pm

You'd wonder where Triple H stands on the whole thing. Vince seems like a guy that has been totally understanding towards people that have tried him over the years.

I'm totally picking this out of my backside but Trips has always come across as bullish and a man that would stand his ground. He is a Vince/WWE man through and through. Would he be a man to tell CM Punk to take his ball and F off.

I must add I'm imagine Hunter had much to do with Tista's return which Punk is ragging on.

CSF · 29-01-2014 5:59pm

I like Punk and get the impression his in-ring persona isn't a million miles away from the man outside the ring.

I can't imagine anyone would pull a strop about not getting to wrestle (and lose to) Triple f*cking H. It has to be about Batista and I think that is a legitimate gripe.

As an aside, the YES Movement or whatever you want to call it, aren't actually going to accept a match against HHH as a suitable payoff to pacify the Batista disgrace...are they?

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:01pm

krudler wrote: »

On a side note, this whole thing is far more interesting than anything creative have come up with in years!

anyone else think that wrestling booking is going to veer more into this sort of stuff in the future, you can't fool fans anymore with angles, so meet them on their own turf and blur the lines of reality and fantasy.

Great in theory, but Batista has been stripped of any credibility by it. He has movies to promote. Unless this genius plan was done without his knowledge I don't see it.

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 6:01pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

There's nothing to suggest (either in terms of reports or what we see every week) that they were going in the direction of Trips/Bryan until last Monday.

He was at the Rumble with no issues on Sunday then suddenly walks out on Monday morning? I reckon he was told that Bryan was facing Triple H instead now which caused the walk out. Bryan is getting the match due to the Rumble fall out.

I wouldnt be surprised if that was too much for Punk. He was likely expecting main event since Rock wasnt going to be around but instead ends up in the mid card.

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:03pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

He was at the Rumble with no issues on Sunday then suddenly walks out on Monday morning? I reckon he was told that Bryan was facing Triple H instead now which caused the walk out. Bryan is getting the match due to the Rumble fall out.

I wouldnt be surprised if that was too much for Punk. He was likely expecting main event since Rock wasnt going to be around but instead ends up in the mid card.

I don't see it. Pulling out of the Rumble at that notice wouldn't be something most would do. I don't get the impression Punk has any gripe with Bryan.

Lithium93_ · 29-01-2014 6:03pm

CM Punk got screwed in regards to WRESTLEMANIA XXX

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 6:03pm

CSF wrote: »

I like Punk and get the impression his in-ring persona isn't a million miles away from the man outside the ring.

I can't imagine anyone would pull a strop about not getting to wrestle (and lose to) Triple f*cking H. It has to be about Batista and I think that is a legitimate gripe.

As an aside, the YES Movement or whatever you want to call it, aren't actually going to accept a match against HHH as a suitable payoff to pacify the Batista disgrace...are they?

Then why now? Why not five or six weeks ago when it was announced he was coming back? Surely Punk is connected enough to know in advance he was winning.

mikey13 · 29-01-2014 6:04pm

CSF wrote: »

I like Punk and get the impression his in-ring persona isn't a million miles away from the man outside the ring.

I can't imagine anyone would pull a strop about not getting to wrestle (and lose to) Triple f*cking H. It has to be about Batista and I think that is a legitimate gripe.

As an aside, the YES Movement or whatever you want to call it, aren't actually going to accept a match against HHH as a suitable payoff to pacify the Batista disgrace...are they?

As long as Bryan wins and the reward is a title match at Payback(whatever's next) I'd be happy

gnfnrhead · 29-01-2014 6:05pm

CSF wrote: »

I don't see it. Pulling out of the Rumble at that notice wouldn't be something most would do. I don't get the impression Punk has any gripe with Bryan.

I dont think he has a gripe with Bryan either. More so the fact that it means Punk is reduced to a mid card feud now.

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:07pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Then why now? Why not five or six weeks ago when it was announced he was coming back? Surely Punk is connected enough to know in advance he was winning.

There could be any number of reasons why Punk fulfilled his obligations. I won't claim to know them. How could I? There was a grumbling going on for a while now about his discontent. Entirely possible being bumped further down the card has pushed him over the edge but I don't think that is the main gripe. Punk is a wrestling man who would appreciate a guy like Bryan.

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:08pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I dont think he has a gripe with Bryan either. More so the fact that it means Punk is reduced to a mid card feud now.

Yeah I think that might have pushed him over the edge alright. Which is reasonable enough.

Moneymaker · 29-01-2014 6:08pm

mikey13 wrote: »

As long as Bryan wins and the reward is a title match at Payback(whatever's next) I'd be happy

Extreme Rules.

And guess where it is?

Seattle, Washington.

The Ayatolla · 29-01-2014 6:09pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

Extreme Rules.

And guess where it is?

Seattle, Washington.

Batista's home town

:D:D

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:09pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

And guess where the PPV after WM is?

Seattle, Washington.

Serious amount of work to do to make any payoff there a fraction of the size of a WM title win though

savemejebus · 29-01-2014 6:12pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

He was at the Rumble with no issues on Sunday then suddenly walks out on Monday morning? I reckon he was told that Bryan was facing Triple H instead now which caused the walk out. Bryan is getting the match due to the Rumble fall out.

I wouldnt be surprised if that was too much for Punk. He was likely expecting main event since Rock wasnt going to be around but instead ends up in the mid card.

I'd look at it a bit differently. He was at the rumble with no issues because he was booked to be, it was part of the storyline that had been building. Also, to no show at that event after having been advertised as entrant No.1 would be seriously unprofessional and bridge burning.

Now on Monday night he gets there and finds out that he's being written out of the storyline that he has just spent a few months building and that now he's going to be put towards facing Kane at what is possibly his last wrestlemania. I can well imagine him saying 'sorry but fcuk that' and just heading home pissed based on how expendable they find him.

Hey may be miffed at Bryan getting his match with Trips but i'd say it's more likely he'd be pissed at the fact that they would shoehorn Bryan into his storyline role instead of capitalising on how popular Bryan is and finding ways to insert him into the Wrestlemania main event.

Moneymaker · 29-01-2014 6:12pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Batista's home town :D:D

And a stones throw away from DBs hometown.

CSF wrote: »

Serious amount of work to do to make any payoff there a fraction of the size of a WM title win though

I agree with you but him beating HHH at WM and setting up a title match at ERs would be fine with me.

CSF · 29-01-2014 6:15pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

I agree with you but him beating HHH at WM and setting up a title match at ERs would be fine with me.

Fine enough to stop the IWC from taking a steamy **** on the Batista/Orton main event? I hope not.

Les Ferdinand · 29-01-2014 6:16pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Batista's home town :D:D

Batista is from Washington DC which is on the opposite coast. He's not from Seattle Washington

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