Photos thread (Target Shooting)

Nema · 07-11-2005 10:39pm

Ok, What time on Sunday?

Sparks · 07-11-2005 10:46pm

Last detail's at 1400, finishing at 1545, the final should be about a half-hour afterwards. If you showed up around 1520 or so, you'd get a decent look at both the qualifying round and finals.

(Open invite, by the way, the more the merrier).

Nema · 07-11-2005 10:48pm

Sure man il drop down give you my support

PS:: Were is UCD lol?

Sparks · 07-11-2005 10:56pm

How to find the UCD Rifle Club.

Sparks · 14-11-2005 3:37pm

How do you get all the gear in a college club from one spot to another with only one car?

Sparks · 14-11-2005 3:38pm

UCDRC's new safety cages for their air pistols, in use at the end of the UCD Open:

Sparks · 07-12-2005 11:53am

Photos taken from the Munich World Cup this year.

The airgun hall. Probably the best air rifle/pistol range in the world.

The trailers outside the ranges, where Anschutz, Feinwerkbau, Walther, H&N, and just about any other manufacturer has a tent to show their products.

The display screen from the Finals hall (this one's for air pistol).

The new Steyr air rifle.

Ryan Tanoue, who won the Men's air rifle match.

Rew · 11-12-2005 11:23pm

Glock 17 9mm and CZ Silhouette .22lr

Sparks · 12-12-2005 2:10am

An air pistol firing point laid out for competition...

...as compared to an air rifle firing point!

Barry Aldwell · 12-12-2005 3:42am

ambro25 wrote:

Not a M60, but a Russian RPK-74, I believe

The machine gun in the first 2 pictures of that post is a PKM

The original third picture of that post (the one I was referring to, which is now a broken link) was a person holding an M60 in a way which showed how little they knew about handling firearms

ambro25 wrote:

Same caliber, though (7.62):

The PKM fires 7.62x54R M1908/30 Russian ammunition. The M60 fires 7.62X51 NATO ammunition. Interchanging either of these 2 types of ammunition, either with each other or with 7.62X39 M43 Russian (as fired by the AK47 and the RPK) will result either in a weapon that refuses to load, or a weapon which explodes in your hands.

Similar results occur if you try to use 5.56X45 SS109 or M193 in an AK74, or 5.45X39 in a weapon chambered for 5.56X45, such as the AR15/M16. 5.56X45 SS109 and M193 are however interchangeable, but accuracy will suffer depending on the rifling twist of the barrel used (1 twist in 12 inches is best for M193, 1 in 7 is best for SS109. 1 in 9 gives acceptable accuracy with both)

Moral of the story: There's loads of types of ammo. Mixing them up is a bad idea.

(if the mods want I'll add loads of pictures comparing the sizes of the types of ammo I talk about in this post, to keep this on topic)

*removes anorak and walks off*

Manic Moran · 12-12-2005 8:49pm

Sparks wrote:

How do you get all the gear in a college club from one spot to another with only one car?

I don't know if anyone ever took a photo, but we jammed my Fiesta with both all the DURC and all the UCD gear at one point when leaving Sarsfield Barracks and the Limerick Open one year.

It was so stuffed that the rear view mirror got knocked off, and I had to use my left arm to change gears and use the handbrake since my right arm wouldn't twist enough to access the lever. (I had a left-hand-drive car)

NTM

Sparks · 16-12-2005 8:57pm

That's going back a fair ways Manic. Probably to when I started in DURC or even before it :eek:

Rew · 12-02-2006 9:54pm

My Tikka T3 Tactical .223 rem:

Sparks · 21-02-2006 6:28pm

A shot from the British Airgun Championships of our own Original Psycho:

More to follow later when I get time; probably tomorrow evening.

Sparks · 02-03-2006 10:49pm

Some photos from last year's Judges course:

The new ISSF jacket stiffness gauge in action.

The Cadet's lodge, Bisley Camp. Clean, basic, character-building

The Century range, behind the lodge. 50m,100yds,300yds,500yds and 600yds

The Lord Robert's Centre, Bisley.

The air rifle range in the LRC isn't always deployed for large competitions; here is the far left third as set up in between competitions, for training. Only a few suis ascor units are left exposed; for the rest, electric target changers are used.

The far right third is converted to an indoor hockey rink; this raises cash between competitions.

And the NSRA offices, which the cash pays for

Sparks · 02-03-2006 11:15pm

And some photos from the Championships from a few weeks ago:

The provisional scores being posted.

The start lists.

This year's stiffness gauge

The rest of equipment control

The prizes on offer

How's that for a final shot in the finals?

Sparks · 25-03-2006 8:51pm

A photo or two from Friday's Wilkinstown prize-giving evening in Navan...

Some of the air pistol shooters from Ireland's first open ISSF Pistol match in 32 years (and the first ISSF Air Pistol match ever).

The air rifle division winners from last year's Welsh Air Rifle Postal match.

Matt and Geoff with their "Coaches to the Champions" prizes.

More photos up on the WTSC website's photo gallery...

Rovi · 25-03-2006 9:12pm

Sparks wrote:

The blokes in this picture: "We're only here for the shooting. Yep, that's it, the shooting. Nothing else. Goodness gracious, how could anyone think we were here for anything but the shooting?"

:D:D

Well done to all!

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25-03-2006 10:52pm

So you spotted those cups as well then rovi??

Riggser · 26-03-2006 2:55pm

Took me a while to realise they were holding cups

Sparks · 26-03-2006 11:58pm

Now, now, you lot, settle down there

And here's a closeup of the pistol competition commeration certificates:

Sparks · 27-05-2006 9:54pm

Geoff Cooney taking advantage of a quiet detail at a WTSC 50m shoot to make observations for later coaching.

Sparks · 27-05-2006 9:55pm

The view from the Fingal Rifle Club firing points.

Sparks · 27-05-2006 9:55pm

PR photo from a WTSC 50m shoot.

Sparks · 27-05-2006 9:56pm

Focussing hard on the target...

Sparks · 30-05-2006 1:14am

Getting down to business!

Sparks · 30-05-2006 1:15am

Original_psycho caught ejecting...

and again...

Sparks · 30-05-2006 1:15am

Changing targets...

Sparks · 30-05-2006 1:15am

Announcing the scores...

Degsy · 10-07-2006 5:23pm

me in courtlough yesterday

Sparks · 12-07-2006 10:01pm

From the MIT archives, the reason why your extension tubes need to be cleaned regularly

12-07-2006 10:36pm

Sparks wrote:

From the MIT archives, the reason why your extension tubes need to be cleaned regularly

Thats plagerism! (from Michelle, not MIT!!)

Sparks · 12-07-2006 10:40pm

It's not plagerism, it's passing on knowlege

*hehe*

Sparks · 13-07-2006 11:58am

All my own

Degsy · 13-07-2006 12:07pm

Whassat?

Sparks · 13-07-2006 12:13pm

It's a Baikal IZH-46M air pistol Degsy. Finally got to pick it up the weekend before last and shot it in the Nationals (452). Getting better with it too - put in my first 500 on Monday night in the range. Cheap (€250, plus €5 for each tin of 500 pellets), cheerful, and good enough to go from neophyte to a World Cup with. What more could you want in a beginners pistol?

Degsy · 13-07-2006 12:16pm

Sparks wrote:

It's a Baikal IZH-46M air pistol Degsy. Finally got to pick it up the weekend before last and shot it in the Nationals (452). Getting better with it too - put in my first 500 on Monday night in the range. Cheap (€250, plus €5 for each tin of 500 pellets), cheerful, and good enough to go from neophyte to a World Cup with. What more could you want in a beginners pistol?

A bayonet?:D
Seriously though is it .22 or .17?

Sparks · 13-07-2006 12:23pm

A bayonet?

No need for that, we use penknives to cut the plastic wrapping off the tins of pellets

Seriously though is it .22 or .17?

.177 Degsy, it's an ISSF air pistol. Which are all .177 calibre.

Degsy · 13-07-2006 12:28pm

Sparks wrote:

No need for that, we use penknives to cut the plastic wrapping off the tins of pellets

.177 Degsy, it's an ISSF air pistol. Which are all .177 calibre.

Ah yes..i'm a bit of a dumbo you see!

Sparks · 13-07-2006 12:36pm

Why would you be dumb for not knowing ISSF rule 8.4.3 from the 2005 ruleset, second printing?

It's not exactly the first rule of target shooting y'know

Degsy · 13-07-2006 12:46pm

Sparks wrote:

Why would you be dumb for not knowing ISSF rule 8.4.3 from the 2005 ruleset, second printing? It's not exactly the first rule of target shooting y'know

Why indeed!I have to say target shooting's not really my bag but i had a very enjoyable day in courtlough rifle range on sunday,although really they should get another 50m range.

Sgt. Politeness · 27-08-2006 10:27pm

I took this down to a rifle range with my girlfriends dad (its his rifle), springfield armory M14.

This rifle is an absolute beast. I was on a 100m range, managed to hit the black a good few times, ive still got my targets, ill get a photo of em and post that too. Once i had the sights adjusted to myself, i was able to nail it at 100m every time.

Mossberg pump action shotgun (and my girlfriends nephews!) Now this gun is just an animal..kick off it is ferocious. But damn it it feels sh!t cool ejecting the spent cartridges with the old 'chck chck' motion! (oh and if you look at the bottom left you can just about make out an old ww2 K98, didnt get to fire it as i had no ammo sadly)
When i get the rest of my pics ill pot em, ive got AK47 and M4 carbine pics, and better shots of the K98. Also used a colt 44 but didnt get any shots of that.

Vegeta · 27-08-2006 11:18pm

i hope there was no one standing in the window for that pic.

i know you probably tripple checked if the shotgun gun was loaded but everytime i see a gun held like it is in the last picture i get nervous

especially with your finger on the trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

man safety is paramount

Sparks · 18-09-2006 3:06pm

From a discussion over on Stirton.com, these photos give a good display of why things like the rear surface of the bullet, the symmetrical form of the crown of the muzzle and the post-muzzle environment (specifically, things like silencers, extension tubes and prongs/hammerhead sightline extensions) have such a significant effect on where the round goes!

flight93 · 25-09-2006 12:50pm

From a discussion over on Stirton.com, these photos give a good display of why things like the rear surface of the bullet, the symmetrical form of the crown of the muzzle and the post-muzzle environment (specifically, things like silencers, extension tubes and prongs/hammerhead sightline extensions) have such a significant effect on where the round goes!

Assuming you are using a high quality silincer made to tight tollerence why would it make a difference to where the round goes? (Im not suggesting that you are wrong Im just trying to understand it)

Sparks · 25-09-2006 1:25pm

The basic idea is that if the gases from the propellant have any avenue to get in front of the bullet, they'll take it - and for a .22lr subsonic round, even a small shove at the firing point translates to a large deviation at the target. The discussion was more centering on the use of hammerheads and tubes than silencers, but if the silencer isn't actually part of the barrel (as in, the bullet is in contact with rifling inside to prevent gas escaping in front of the bullet) then the same principles apply. How much they apply, and whether that is enough to say that you shouldn't use a silencer, well that's down to the actual application. For hunting, for example, I doubt it would be that critical if you are off by three or four millimeters, and the benefits of the silencer would more than outweight that cost; but for some forms of target shooting like ISSF or Benchrest, well, that's another story alltogether.

Rovi · 25-09-2006 1:34pm

Sparks wrote:

...the use of hammerheads and tubes...

I'm assuming here that a 'hammerhead' isn't the heavy bit on the business end of a percussive adjustment instrument?
And while I'm at it, what's a 'tube' in this instance?

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Sparks · 25-09-2006 1:53pm

Nope Rovi, a hammerhead looks like this:

and an extension tube looks like this:

Both act to extend the sight base for iron sights to try to reduce sighting error.

rrpc · 26-09-2006 10:56am

Great photos Sparks!, I wonder how many FPS the camera was shooting at?

As a user of a sight extension tube, I'd really like to see the same photos using a clear extension tube. Also it would be instructive to see how quickly the gases are left behind by the round. Those photos really only go as far as maybe 30mm from the muzzle. At some point the bullet must leave the gases behind.

The other point is that perhaps the hammerhead would be more diruptive of the round than a tube, because the tube is uniform rather than biased in one direction.

Sparks · 26-09-2006 11:50am

I wish I had a camera that would do that rrpc, it was something like a 3 nanosecond exposure time.

Here's a .22lr rifle a few nanoseconds after the point in the photos above:

So it does leave them behind, and rather rapidly, but like with wind, even a small shove at this end results in a long deviation at the target. And I think it's generally accepted that hammerheads are a worse idea than tubes because of the asymmetry - but some people feel they have less sail area so the barrel isn't blown about as much as it would be with a tube.

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