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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Chiarrai_abu


    Kerry controlled the game completely. The passing movements were great. Most kick passes were great on the day.
    Dublin will be a completely different game. Paddy Andrews and Connolly looks good along with Fenton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Good result. Poor game.

    Dubs look extremely strong.

    Will be a tough final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Kerry 4 goals up at ht, and worth the lead. You would have to question the tactics of the Roscommon management though. Against the elements and not playing with a spare defender , seems like they wanted to go toe to toe with Kerry, bad choice.

    eh???? they played with not only 1 extra defender in that first half, but 3.


    they had at some stages, 15 behind the ball.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    eh???? they played with not only 1 extra defender in that first half, but 3.


    they had at some stages, 15 behind the ball.

    The first half I saw had oceans of space all around that defence, with so much space for Kerry fowards to run into, not sure where those fellas were playing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Lads what has e fritz against t walsh??? There isn't another county in the country that would leave that great man sitting on the sideline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    ambrose is the most negative of negative pundits i take it wishie was at the masters , . . . . . there should be no excuse for the final against dublin .....as far as punditry is concerned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Lads what has e fritz against t walsh??? There isn't another county in the country that would leave that great man sitting on the sideline
    I was looking forward to getting a look at him yesterday, why is he on so many panels but with so little playing time.
    We had that with Costello last year but at least he's a young lad learning from the journey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Lads what has e fritz against t walsh??? There isn't another county in the country that would leave that great man sitting on the sideline

    he obviously isnt doing it in training, it cant be more clear than that and he has been poor in alot of games that he has played in.

    while he was brilliant in 2009, overall i think Tommy is a player that is just missing something and he is not as good as people think, his actual skills levels are very questionable. theres lot of examples of players who are big men doing well in GAA for a couple of seasons, but they get found out eventually

    he is living off 2009 to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Best player against Dublin, not seen since. Talk of carrying knocks, then he plays 60 mins and hacks up for the club.

    Some very strange reports and some even stranger selection policies the story of the league in the negative sense, with Marc Griffin probably the story of the league in the positive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Yeah I thought the likes of Tommy Walsh and Brendan Sullivan should have been brought in at HT the last day, the game was over and we know what people like Killian and Barry John have to offer already


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Info re the National League Final

    THE cost of a ticket for this year’s National League Final is almost the same as an All-Ireland semi-final ticket.

    An adult stand ticket will set you back €35 which is a fiver less than the Kerry v Tyrone All-Ireland semi-final from last year, but at least the juvenile seats are just €5.

    Preceded by the Division 2 final between Cavan and Tyrone, Kerry will bid to win their first League title since 2009 against Dublin in Croke Park on Sunday, April 24. After the Division 1 decider there will be a performance of the GAA’s theatrical production commemorating the rising.

    ‘Laochra’ will highlight the role of Gaelic games and the GAA in the story of Ireland from the earliest days through to the revolutionary period.

    If you’re planning on heading up by rail, at the moment there is only one train up and one train down that would get the job done for you.

    A train will depart Casement station in Tralee at 7:10am. The next train goes at 11:50am, which would make it far too late for the 3:30pm throw in.

    With the game finishing around 5pm, you can only make the 7:05pm train which will be leaving Dublin Houston for Kerry that evening. At this point there is no special train for the match, but that may change the week ahead of the game.



    Allianz Football Leagues Divison 1 and 2 Finals
    Followed by Laochra- The GAA Commemorates 1916

    Divison 1 Throw in: 3.30pm
    Division 2 Throw in: 1.30pm

    Ticket Information:
    Adult Stand: €35.00
    Juvenile U16 Stand: €5.00
    Terrace: €20


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    The Kerry Minor Football Team to play Waterford in the Electric Ireland Munster GAA Football Minor Championship in Dungarvan on Wednesday next contains just one of the starting fifteen from last year’s All Ireland final win over Tipperary – Sean O’Shea of Kenmare. Three subs who played in that final – Daniel O’Brien, Mike Breen and Graham O’Sullivan also make the starting fifteen while Billy Courtney and Bryan Sweeney who played in last year’s final are included among the subs.
    Four of the St Brendans Killarney Hogan Cup winning team are included, Daniel O’Brien, David Naughton, Dara Moynihan and David Clifford.

    The team, captained by Seán Ó Lúing of An Ghaeltacht is as follows:
    1. Sean Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht
    2. Graham O'Sullivan Dromid Pearses
    3. Niall Collins Listowel Emmets
    4. Micheál Reidy Ballymacelligott
    5. David Naughton Dr. Crokes
    6. Daniel O’Brien Glenflesk
    7. Micheal Foley Ballydonoghue
    8. Mike Breen Beaufort
    9. Mark Ryan Rathmore
    10. Dara Moynihan Spa
    11. Sean O’Shea Kenmare
    12. Diarmuid O'Connor Na Gaeil
    13. Brian Friel Rathmore
    14. David Clifford Fossa
    15. Ferdia O'Brien Austin Stacks

    Fir Ionaid

    16. Billy Courtney Dr. Crokes
    17. Michael Potts Dr. Crokes
    18. Bryan Sweeney Listowel Emmets
    19. David Shaw Dr. Crokes
    20. Tomás O'Connor Ballymacelligott
    21. Kieran Dwyer St. Pats
    22. Caolim Teahan Glenbeigh-Glencar
    23. Darren Casey St. Mary's
    24. Fionán Mackessy Ardfert

    Bainistíocht:
    Bainisteoir: Peter Keane (St Marys)
    Treanalaí: Chris Flannery and Padraig Murphy
    Roghnoirí: Tommy Griffin (Dingle), James Foley (Kilcummin)

    Liaison Officer: Christy Killeen

    Additional Players on the Kerry Minor Panel
    Dean Fitzgerald Rathmore
    Stefan Okunbar Na Gaeil
    Mikey O’Boyle Dingle
    Johnny O'Sullivan Beale
    Niall O'Donoghue Firies

    Rehabbing from Injury
    Cormac Linnane Beale
    Karl Mullins Kerins O'Rahillys
    Daragh Sugrue Tuosist
    Cormac Leane Milltown Castlemaine
    Ciaran O'Connor Gneeveguilla


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Club Championships kicked off at the weekend

    http://www.kerrygaa.ie/competitionFixturesResults/108154/s_e_n_i_o_r_c_l_u_b

    http://www.kerrygaa.ie/competitionFixturesResults/108155/i_n_t_e_r_m_e_d_i_a_t_e_c_h_a_m_p

    http://www.kerrygaa.ie/competitionFixturesResults/107099/j_u_n_i_o_r_c_h_a_m_p


    Draw was made for the next round



    Senior Club Championship – S/Finals

    Sat April 30 @ 6.30pm – (Extra Time if needed)

    Killarney Legion v Dr Crokes in Kilcummin

    Dingle v Austin Stacks in Annascaul

    Senior Club Championship– Relegation Play-off Rd 1

    Sun May 1 @ 2.30pm – (Extra Time if needed)

    Rathmore v Kilcummin in Lewis Rd

    Kerins O Rahillys v Miltown/C’maine in Farranfore

    Castleisland Mart Intermediate Club Championship – Quarter Finals

    Spa v Kenmare

    Ardfert v An Ghaeltacht

    Desmonds v Currow

    St Michaels/Foilmore v Templenoe
    Games to be played St April 23rd or w/e Apr 30th/May 1st – 1st Named has Home venue

    Castleisland Mart Premier Junior Club Championship – 1st Round

    Firies v Moyvane

    St Senans v Dromid Pearses

    Churchill v Ballydonoghue

    Listowel Emmets v Beaufort

    Annascaul v Renard (2.30pm)

    St Pats v Glenbeigh/Glencar

    Keel v Finuge

    Na Gaeil v Ballymacelligott

    Games to be played at 6.30pm Sat Apr 23rd or w/e Apr 30th/May 1st – 1st Named has Home venue

    Castleisland Mart Junior Club Championship – 1st Round

    Duagh v Asdee

    Knocknagoshel v Tuosist

    Castlegregory v Cordal

    Sneem/Derrynane v Listry

    Cromane v Beale

    Fossa v Lispole

    Ballyduff v Scartaglen

    Valentia v Tarbert (2.30pm Sunday May 1)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    Hard to look past Crokes to win out the Senior Club - They seem to be in flying form
    The senior relegation will be interesting too and think it will be between Milltown & Kilcummin who will drop to intermediate.

    In the Intermediate Ardfert had the shock of the weekend taking out the Champs Mary's and their next round game v An Gaeltacht will be tie of the round. St.Michaels/Foilmore v Templenoe will be a cracker also.Can see the champs coming from those two games

    The Premier Junior Churchill knocking out Beale,Moyvane winning v Listry and Renards win over Tarbert were unforeseen and the next round games between St Senans v Dromid , Emmets v Beaufort and St Pats v Glenbeigh/Glencar should be interesting.Think we will see Beaufort or Glenbeigh finally getting over the line by the end of this championship

    In the Junior championship (Formally the Novice)
    Couple of big hitters down here now with Tarbert,Listry and Beale all with eyes on capturing this trophy but i think the winners will come from the Fossa v Lispole game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Same As


    Team to play Dublin just announced...

    1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
    2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
    3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
    4. Shane Enright Tarbert
    5. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
    6. Aidan O’Mahony Rathmore
    7. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
    8. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
    9. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
    10. Bryan Sheehan (C) St Marys
    11. Paul Murphy Rathmore
    12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
    13. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
    14. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
    15. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
    Fir Ionaid:
    16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
    17. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
    18. Killian Young Renard
    19. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
    20. Padraig O’Connor Killarney Legion
    21. Michael Geaney Dingle
    22. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
    23. Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
    24. Kieran O’Leary Dr Crokes
    25. Tommy Walsh Kerins O’Rahillys
    26. Denis Daly St Marys


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Same As wrote: »
    Team to play Dublin just announced...

    1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
    2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
    3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
    4. Shane Enright Tarbert
    5. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
    6. Aidan O’Mahony Rathmore
    7. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
    8. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
    9. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
    10. Bryan Sheehan (C) St Marys
    11. Paul Murphy Rathmore
    12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
    13. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
    14. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes
    15. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
    Fir Ionaid:
    16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
    17. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
    18. Killian Young Renard
    19. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
    20. Padraig O’Connor Killarney Legion
    21. Michael Geaney Dingle
    22. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
    23. Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
    24. Kieran O’Leary Dr Crokes
    25. Tommy Walsh Kerins O’Rahillys
    26. Denis Daly St Marys

    Pretty much Championship-strength, so should be a close contest. Little doubt, going by the League, that Kerry and the Dubs have pulled away from the chasing pack this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Same As


    Pretty much Championship-strength, so should be a close contest. Little doubt, going by the League, that Kerry and the Dubs have pulled away from the chasing pack this year.

    Any idea where Alan Fitzgerald is? Assuming Paul Geaney is just being given time to get some club matches under his belt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Pretty much Championship-strength, so should be a close contest. Little doubt, going by the League, that Kerry and the Dubs have pulled away from the chasing pack this year.

    I don't think that is the case with regard to Kerry.

    From a quick glance that team is very close to the one that has been playing since the losses to Dublin and Roscommon.

    I think its exactly the same line up as was picked v Mayo and Monaghan.
    The back 6 has not changed in a long time and with the odd swapping of Alan Fitzgearld for Stephen O Brien I don't think the forwards have changed much either.

    So Kerry have been playing with pretty much a full deck for a while now, whereas their opponents may not have been.

    The early losses in the first two games forced Fitzmaurice to go back to the regulars and it seems there had been little change since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Chiarrai_abu


    Paul Geaney is a huge loss and obviously James O'Donougoue.
    If we get to within 3 points of Dublin in an April game I would be pleased enough.
    The Dublin team look away fitter. We lacked pace against Roscommon down in Killarney. I doubt we are fit enough for Dublin at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    When is James O'Donoghue due to be back?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    When is James O'Donoghue due to be back?

    Fitzmaurice said a few weeks ago that he should be training by May, so Munster final's probably the target.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005



    Much of a Kerry crowd heading up I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Much of a Kerry crowd heading up I wonder?

    Seems to be a daecent crowd based on what I've seen and the talk about tickets. Dubs being the opposition is a big draw and the "relative" novelty of a league final. Munster final in Killarney again means supporters budgets are available for travel. However very few seem to be planning on staying for the 1916 stuff after from the folk I've been talking to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Best of luck to the Kerry team today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Rain forcast here in Dublin from the throw in of the first game until the end of the Laochra show.

    Dampens some of my optimism.

    Slows both sides down which is no harm I suppose, but makes SOB pretty ineffective.

    Covers a bit for out lack of speed at 8, 9, 10.

    Ciarraí Abú


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Rain forcast here in Dublin from the throw in of the first game until the end of the Laochra show.

    Dampens some of my optimism.

    Slows both sides down which is no harm I suppose, but makes SOB pretty ineffective.

    Covers a bit for out lack of speed at 8, 9, 10.

    Ciarraí Abú

    The rain if it comes isn't forecast to be heavy. Light shower or two maybe. Higher chance it will stay dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    corny wrote:
    The rain if it comes isn't forecast to be heavy. Light shower or two maybe. Higher chance it will stay dry.

    Checked 3 different forcasters since reading your post and all 3 are different. So now I have no idea

    Stupidly nice weather all week, then this!

    Anyway rain, no matter how light makes Croker greasy. Slows down the SOB's and DOS players. Hopefully alows down the Dublin midfield a bit as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Chiarrai_abu


    Paul Murphy will surely drop back and cover any Dublin wing backs or corner backs making attacks.
    It will make more sense than Gooch tracking back anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Hard luck to the lads today. Dubs at their peak as a team and we're not. We stayed in it for longer than I thought we would.

    I thought our kickouts were poor, all long down the middle and 50/50 at best. We don't have the running game of the dubs either so we're forced to kick in percentage ball into the FF line.

    Plenty fellas out there who owe Kerry nothing but for some, chasing fellas in their mid-20s when you're thirtysomething isn't easy.

    Buckley, Maher and O'Donoghue still to come back but I think we still well behind the dubs.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Most enjoyable game. Thought the Dublin subs made far more of an impact than kerrys. Didn't see the red card incident but it was a game changer, linesman gave it for striking with the fist apparently.
    Poor kickout for the first goal didn't help either.
    Dublin really are the benchmark, hard to see them not winning Sam again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Chiarrai_abu


    Dublin are the best team in the country and have been for 2-3 years.
    We were in the game for long enough but Dublin had the fitness and strength.
    We need a bit more pace in the backs. Marc Se struggled. For a Dublin game we need a few faster guys in the pitch for Championship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Still, at least we can say the finish wasn't half as embarrassing as Laochra!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,170 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Still, at least we can say the finish wasn't half as embarrassing as Laochra!

    I actually enjoyed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Depreasing. Massive Fitzmaurice fan but today has me questioning what way we are going.

    With Mahoney as a sweeper we looked solid. Swithched to Man to Man exposed Marc inside. Fionn not up to it at this level of physicality. Donaghy, Sheehan, Moran and Donnacha exposed for pace.

    Left Gooch and Star on too long.

    Murphy and Crowley excellent. Enright pretty good, very unlucky for the penalty.

    Mahoney cost us big time. Didnt see it but others did and I presume it was deserved.

    Would have liked some fair play from the referee regarding the Dublin full back line. Dragged Cooper and Donaghy repeatedly only for frees to be given the other way.

    Miles behind. Dublin jeers still ringing in my ears. Motivation for a potential Semi Final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Young O'Connor looks very pacy. put him on Kerrigan in Munster and see how he goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Im going to presume the Mahony incident wasnt caught on camera? No reply anyway, he never learns, always plays over the edge. That really cost us although I think the Dubs had it in them to step up a gear if they wanted. Griffin certainly didnt look happy to be taken off either. I think the management made some odd decisions but as I said we were well behind Dublin and they didnt hit top gear at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I think the line got some big calls wrong today.

    Gooch was ineffective, took off O Brien who was working his socks off.

    Crowley our best player by a mile. Taken off.

    Mark Griffin was outstanding. Taken off. Immediately leaked two soft goals.

    Griffin was paricularly infuriating as his absence in the previous game exposed the back line when he went off.

    Well done to Dublin. They put us to the sword when given an opening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Pinesky


    I think the line got some big calls wrong today.

    Gooch was ineffective, took off O Brien who was working his socks off.

    Crowley our best player by a mile. Taken off.

    Mark Griffin was outstanding. Taken off. Immediately leaked two soft goals.

    Griffin was paricularly infuriating as his absence in the previous game exposed the back line when he went off.

    Well done to Dublin. They put us to the sword when given an opening.
    Dublin were better . ref was a joke . surely we've seen enough by now to say no to Leinster refs.
    Kerry tactics strange. Donaghy & Sheehan both playing left half back . Too much respect for Dublin .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    tactics, subs or the ref didnt cost us that game, going down to 14 men with 25 minutes worth of game time left, ultimately did.

    we were beaten by a better team, but the loss of O Mahoney was the game changer in the sense that our game ended, a game that Dublin i think would have won by mayb 4 or 5 points as opposed to 11 had we kept 15 on the pitch.

    you cant afford red cards in games like that, it happens. the scoreline means fu*k all when 8 of the points came from 67th minute on when the tank was empty at that stage.

    people should just stop blaming fitzmaurice or the ref or this player and that player, sometimes you just got to hold our hand up and say Dublin are better than us and learn from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Chiarrai_abu


    The positives were the fantastic passing we had for most of the game. Crowley had a great game, Paul Murphy was good, Stephen O'Brien showed for same great ball. Darren O'Sullivan was dangerous.
    Plenty of positives, the last 5 minutes were too late to judge the game on.
    A small bit more craft and we could have been in the game until the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Aidan is not the player he used to be and doesn't have the ability to cover his obvious disciplinary shortcomings- it's time to phase him out.

    You can't leave your team down like that in the heat of battle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Aidan is not the player he used to be and doesn't have the ability to cover his obvious disciplinary shortcomings- it's time to phase him out.


    Ah I don't know about that. Many more have fallen foul of Johnny Cooper's attemps to wind a guy up.

    Its frustrating for the older guys. They had the Indian sign over the Dubs up until 2011. Now they have it over us. Its the likes of Mahoney, Marc, Sheehan, Gooch and Donaghy that looked most frustrated and were the most ineffective.

    2016 is most likely their last year (bar possibly Sheehan). They wanted to win the game so much, but let themselves down with their performances.

    Time for a change I feel. Pace and power over experience. I wouldn't be surprised to see all of the above bar Marc on the bench come championship time. With Buckley, Young, Maher and JoD replacing the others.

    Donaghy had a fantastic league, but in Croke Park his pace is exposed at midfield and the persistant fouling from the Dublin fullback line is ignored when he goes in. Can't carry a player like that when it comes to Finals and Semi Finals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    I thought the game was relatively even in the second half until the sending off. Dublin weren't playing particularly well at that time. I know Dublin finish strongly and more than likely would have won but it wasn't certain. the two goals has a bit of luck about them as well - mistake and off the post rebound which put an unbalanced look on the scoreline.

    Dublin while definitely warm favourites are still human after all. in modern football its very hard to put two back to back. its not just the physical element but mentally as well the toll it takes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Wouldn't read too much into the 11 point defeat, it was damage limitation once we went down to 14. Dubs would likely have won regardless but I don't think there is the gaping chasm between the sides that some commentators seem to be saying. The side we put out yesterday doesn't have the legs for them though, assume this will be addressed when some of the missing players come back.

    I sincerely hope Donaghy isn't playing full forward next time we meet them. It's a total waste pumping every ball up high to him when he is being pulled, dragged and held all day long. It was the same at the end of last years final. Refs are reluctant to blow for a free and we all know he gives as good as he gets but he is not the culprit every time. Either way we need a new tactic. It's infuriating watching the ball being turned over every time it's played in.

    Plenty of positives to take from yesterday but lots of work to do also. You wouldn't back is to beat them in the championship on yesterday's showing but they are beatable all the same.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    We did go for a period in the second half that a few Dublin attacks were stopped and we were turning it over,but its when the ball is moving forward we just didn't have the support for the man on the ball,

    It would go so far up and then the man on the ball would have to turn around to find a team mate or else lump it into Donaghy,slow build up play killed us

    When Dublin attack they attack as team,the half backs do their best to get beyond on the ball but then they have the legs to get back if possession is turned over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Green_Tae


    Yeah, the League Sunday consensus did not sit right with me at all - Kerry were well in the game prior to the red card and I might have fancied them to push on and maybe grab a win. I still think they lacked something at midfield; Sheehan was in that quarterback role yet he didn't attempt too many killer passes, also with Buckley absent a lot of the playmaking duties fell to Darran O'Sullivan who you would rather see on the end of those passes. Maybe Cooper's return to the no.11 spot might solve a lot of those problems?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,392 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Did Kerry create a single goal scoring opportunity all day ?

    There is a lot being written and talked about the outcome of this gameand "embarrassment" and "revenge".

    But the same things were being said before the game, Sunday was the day for Kerry to get this Dublin monkey off their back.

    Problem with Dublin seems to be the only way to beat them is hope they have a bad day or else be in such great physical shape that your starters can keep going late in the game to counter their ability to bring very fresh, very good players off the bench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Green Tae wrote: »
    Yeah, the League Sunday consensus did not sit right with me at all - Kerry were well in the game prior to the red card and I might have fancied them to push on and maybe grab a win. I still think they lacked something at midfield; Sheehan was in that quarterback role yet he didn't attempt too many killer passes, also with Buckley absent a lot of the playmaking duties fell to Darran O'Sullivan who you would rather see on the end of those passes. Maybe Cooper's return to the no.11 spot might solve a lot of those problems?

    I didn't think they ever looked like winning the game. They seemed to run out of ideas in the second half completely other than bombing it in to Donaghy. Sending off or not Dublin were always going to finish strongly with the strength of their bench, it is hard to see where Kerry were going to get those scores to enable them to win the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ixus


    Twin Towers at full forward is what you need. With J O'D sniffing for broken ball & Gooch delivering. Other players need to be athletic around pitch.

    You will tie in at least four Dub defenders to the full back line if you try this and reduce overlaps. It doesn't mean lobbing every ball in but leaves space around the 30/40.

    Any signs of this being trialled at training before?


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