M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

Andru93 · 10-12-2014 12:43pm

Geogregor wrote: »

Where can I find map of the planned Enniscorthy bypass?
Ideally showing layout of the junctions and other details not just the route.
But even just the route map would be good for the beginning.

Look at post 57 for a route map, can't show it as I'm still to new!

Geogregor · 10-12-2014 3:59pm

Andru93 wrote: »

Look at post 57 for a route map, can't show it as I'm still to new!

Thanks, I missed that.

PoolDude · 23-12-2014 10:39am

''The Enniscorthy bypass is expected to have a preferred tender in place by early 2015, with construction to begin by the end of next year''

Taken from an interview with Paul Kehoe announcing the New Ross bypass preferred tender has been selected and will commence mid 2015. The reference above is on Enniscorthy and the plans for it.

AugustusMinimus · 23-12-2014 11:09am

Just wondering but is the plan to eventually completely dual the remaining section between the New Ross bypass and Enniscorthy bypass ?

PoolDude · 23-12-2014 11:29am

I wouldn't think so.

I know they have upgraded parts of the Enniscorthy to New Ross road, e.g. Clonroche and would foresee more of that to increase the quality of the standard N single carriageway route.

There are/were plans to continue the dual carriageway from Oilgate (where the Enniscorthy bypass ends) to Rosslare as part of Euro Route 1 (Belfast - Europe).

jca · 23-12-2014 11:43am

BAM got the New Ross bypass. Today is the last day for submissions for the Enniscorthy bypass.

PoolDude · 28-01-2015 7:33pm

Do we know who is in the mix?

annfield1978 · 29-01-2015 4:12pm

Tenderers are

Banba (Jons/ sacyr/ roadbridge)

Sli Nua ( Meridiam/ Ferrovial/ SIAC/ Cintra)

BAM Iridium Dragados

GDSGR8 · 29-01-2015 10:53pm

annfield1978 wrote: »

Tenderers are

Banba (Jons/ sacyr/ roadbridge)

Sli Nua ( Meridiam/ Ferrovial/ SIAC/ Cintra)

BAM Iridium Dragados

With BAM having secured the N25, you'd assume it will be between the first two.

jca · 29-01-2015 11:11pm

GDSGR8 wrote: »

With BAM having secured the N25, you'd assume it will be between the first two.

Doesn't always work that way unfortunately. It could easily be awarded to bam on grounds of logistics, meaning that they wouldn't have to move the plant too far from one location to the other.

GDSGR8 · 29-01-2015 11:20pm

jca wrote: »

Doesn't always work that way unfortunately. It could easily be awarded to bam on grounds of logistics, meaning that they wouldn't have to move the plant too far from one location to the other.

Would they be able to raise the money for both projects in virtual tandem, though?

jd · 10-02-2015 6:13pm

Bam preferred bidder (as they are for New Ross by-pass)

http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/enniscorthy-bypass-inches-closer-as-bam-iridium-consortium-is-preferred-tenderer-30980943.html

The BAM Iridium Consortium has been named as the preferred tenderer for the M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy Public Private Partnership (PPP) Scheme with the contract expected to be signed by this summer.

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The same consortium was also announced as the preferred tenderer for the N25 New Ross Bypass PPP scheme in December 2014.

The Bam Iridium consortium will continue to the final stage of the bidding process and it's anticipated that, 'subject to achieving financial close', the M11 contract may be signed between the NRA and the consortium by this summer, with the detailed design and construction starting after that date.

PoolDude · 11-02-2015 6:46pm

Hopefully they hit the Summer timeline, would be good to see the Arklow/Rathnew section open and the Enniscorthy bypass construction start around the same time (at least then you know its happening)

Cantona's Collars · 23-02-2015 1:37pm

Noticed some of the section of the link road just outside Enniscorthy on the North side (Solsborough) has already been marked out with stakes the other day.There's going to be a rather large bridge built there as it's crossing a flood plain.

Cantona's Collars · 25-02-2015 4:04pm

More setting out going on on the West of the town for the road to join with the N30.

spacetweek · 26-02-2015 12:48pm

zerks wrote: »

More setting out going on on the West of the town for the road to join with the N30.

what?

jd · 26-02-2015 12:57pm

spacetweek wrote: »

what?

I presume he means the land between Clavass and the existing N30

Cantona's Collars · 28-02-2015 3:51pm

That's the one JD.The N80 link road on the map you posted has also been partially set out as far as the Slaney where the bridge is going.

stampydmonkey · 01-03-2015 10:43am

zerks wrote: »

That's the one JD.The N80 link road on the map you posted has also been partially set out as far as the Slaney where the bridge is going.

Bridge / viaduct. I did that drawing above

road_high · 01-03-2015 11:17am

Is the M11 Clogh to Enniscorthy scheme going to be built in tandem with this? Or where will the new bypass tie in with the existing N11?

loyatemu · 01-03-2015 1:47pm

road_high wrote: »

Is the M11 Clogh to Enniscorthy scheme going to be built in tandem with this? Or where will the new bypass tie in with the existing N11?

this scheme ties directly into the M11 Gorey bypass - it was originally to be just a bypass of Enniscorthy but the plan was extended to cover Ferns as well.

Cantona's Collars · 01-03-2015 8:49pm

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Bridge / viaduct. I did that drawing above

I caught many's a trout where that structure is crossing.Looking at the map,I can pinpoint people's houses that I know.

It will be crossing a wide valley which includes the river and the railway line plus a road.

vicwatson · 02-03-2015 2:32pm

NRA website showing the project at "Tender" stage for the Enniscorthy by-pass? but that doesn't surprise me if the site hasn't been updated, or maybe BAM haven't officially been given the go ahead?

jd · 02-03-2015 2:51pm

vicwatson wrote: »

NRA website showing the project at "Tender" stage for the Enniscorthy by-pass? but that doesn't surprise me if the site hasn't been updated, or maybe BAM haven't officially been given the go ahead?

They are the preferred tenderer. I'd say once contracts are signed, they'll get on site pretty quickly.

road_high · 02-03-2015 2:52pm

loyatemu wrote: »

this scheme ties directly into the M11 Gorey bypass - it was originally to be just a bypass of Enniscorthy but the plan was extended to cover Ferns as well.

It's a massive scheme so. This along with the New Ross bypass will transform Co. Wexford's road network completely. Great news.

Cantona's Collars · 02-03-2015 10:09pm

road_high wrote: »

It's a massive scheme so. This along with the New Ross bypass will transform Co. Wexford's road network completely. Great news.

All they need now is to bring the mythical beast called jobs down the N11.....or at least we can all get to work in Dublin a bit quicker.

Local press here are all going with BAM as the winner of the tender.Nothing official signed yet though.

BoatMad · 03-03-2015 2:32pm

Im glad to see its not just an enniscorthy bypass, wiser heads prevailed and didn't create another Rathnew Arklow fiasco . Mins you I think a dual way to waterford via the east coast should have been considered

Whats needed now is to bang wickows co co head seriously together and upgrade all the N11 to M11 standards and deal with the mess that is Kilmac and Bray North , In particular the speed restrictions at Kilmac need to be lifted and this could easily be done by forcing all the garage access up to the roundwood junction , rather then the ludicrous and very dangerous situation that is there now. In my view the needs of commuters and road safety and efficiency should trump the issues surrounding maintaining the business of filling stations

road_high · 03-03-2015 2:40pm

BoatMad wrote: »

Im glad to see its not just an enniscorthy bypass, wiser heads prevailed and didn't create another Rathnew Arklow fiasco . Mins you I think a dual way to waterford via the east coast should have been considered

Definitely not needed at this time, we've already spent €1 billion on the M9 for this end

New Ross bypass and the N30 Enniscorthy bypass will more than suffice in addtion to some other improvements. Far too many other pressing needs like the N24, N20 etc which are in dire need first.

jd · 03-03-2015 2:46pm

BoatMad wrote: »

Mins you I think a dual way to waterford via the east coast should have been considered

15 years ago or so I think the plan was to have the Enniscorthy Bypass west of the town, and that the main Waterford road from Dublin would have been from there across to New Ross etc

Schadenfreudia · 05-03-2015 9:49pm

BoatMad wrote: »

What's needed now is to bang wickows co co head seriously together and upgrade all the N11 to M11 standards and deal with the mess that is Kilmac and Bray North

I wish you luck with that!

Wicklow Co Co is to road maintenance what North Korea is to modern states!

On non-NRA-funded roads their maintenance of lines and signs is sub-third world; even their stretches of the NRA-funded N11 are dotted with broken street lights - when you cross the county line from DL into Wicklow on the M11 it's like taking a trip back in time.

This may be off-topic

jca · 05-03-2015 11:32pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

I wish you luck with that!

Wicklow Co Co is to road maintenance what North Korea is to modern states!

On non-NRA-funded roads their maintenance of lines and signs is sub-third world; even their stretches of the NRA-funded N11 are dotted with broken street lights - when you cross the county line from DL into Wicklow on the M11 it's like taking a trip back in time.

This may be off-topic

Wexford is even worse...

BoatMad · 06-03-2015 11:28am

jca wrote: »

Wexford is even worse...

having moved from wicklow to wexford, I dont agree, wicklow is in a standard ! all if its own

road_high · 06-03-2015 2:25pm

jca wrote: »

Wexford is even worse...

Back roads in Wexford are desperate. Crater ridden, massive potholes everywhere.

BoatMad · 06-03-2015 2:26pm

road_high wrote: »

Back roads in Wexford are desperate. Crater ridden, massive potholes everywhere.

the ones in wicklow have potholes with on ramps

Reuben1210 · 06-03-2015 5:34pm

I dunno, it seems that in both counties, if you stray off the main arterial routes, the quality deteriorates significantly .....this is probably to do with recent budget cuts...

Schadenfreudia · 06-03-2015 5:53pm

Reuben1210 wrote: »

I dunno, it seems that in both counties, if you stray off the main arterial routes, the quality deteriorates significantly .....this is probably to do with recent budget cuts...

Not in the case of Wicklow. Their maintenance of road markings in Bray and Greystones was pathetic even at the height of the boom.

In fact most Local Authorities are performing better in the recession than Wicklow ever did in the "money no object" days!

Just look at the condition of the Bray Southern Cross for example.

Reuben1210 · 06-03-2015 5:56pm

the southern cross is a very good point in fairness!...i don't know about many other counties than the surrounding ones...

Alun · 06-03-2015 6:32pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

In fact most Local Authorities are performing better in the recession than Wicklow ever did in the "money no object" days!

And yet they still play to the gallery by reducing the LPT, thus reducing their available budget even further.

badgerbroc11 · 08-03-2015 3:37pm

From the Wexford people, Brendan Howlin interview

wrote:

"In terms of infrastructure, which is something I have control over, this year work will start on the Enniscorthy bypass so you'll have traffic on bypasses from Larne to Oylegate by 2017."

jca · 08-03-2015 4:48pm

BoatMad wrote: »

the ones in wicklow have potholes with on ramps

That's the council boys handy work.... The shovel of tar in the rain, macadam is turning in his grave:pac:

Schadenfreudia · 08-03-2015 7:51pm

Alun wrote: »

And yet they still play to the gallery by reducing the LPT, thus reducing their available budget even further.

I'm not sure the problem is lack of funds - it's general incompetence. Taking the full LPT would only be throwing more taxpayers money down the drain.

Part of the problem is that "the gallery" seem to oblivious to the third world condition of local road maintenance.

Cantona's Collars · 11-03-2015 5:06pm

Setting out for the motorway on the East of the town continuing,they are near Oylegate at this stage.

I'm open to correction but is Enniscorthy the first town to be bypassed on 2 sides?

Cookiemunster · 11-03-2015 5:26pm

zerks wrote: »

Setting out for the motorway on the East of the town continuing,they are near Oylegate at this stage.

I'm open to correction but is Enniscorthy the first town to be bypassed on 2 sides?

I think Mitchelstown has a bypass to the west and the M8 to the East

L1011 · 11-03-2015 5:38pm

zerks wrote: »

I'm open to correction but is Enniscorthy the first town to be bypassed on 2 sides?

Dundalk, sort of - M1 to the west, original bypass to the east. Mitchelstown is also correct.

Nearly everywhere else double-bypassed has them on the same side, Roscrea/Cahir/Enfield etc.

BoatMad · 19-03-2015 9:52pm

jca wrote: »

That's the council boys handy work.... The shovel of tar in the rain, macadam is turning in his grave:pac:

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god no , they dont touch a shovel in wicklow. have you not seen the knacky spray tar and chip machine with the adjustable boom, the lads dont have to get out into the cold nor nothing,

of course the next car or truck , rips the `repair `' up and flings it into the ditch , but hey thats just means they have to round again,

around me they did the same pothole three times

PoolDude · 30-03-2015 8:46am

zerks wrote: »

Setting out for the motorway on the East of the town continuing,they are near Oylegate at this stage.

I'm open to correction but is Enniscorthy the first town to be bypassed on 2 sides?

I didn't notice any fencing at the Gorey bypass end, perhaps it is because it is joining before the end of the current bypass and the fencing is out of sight. Do you know if it is now completed end to end?

Also anyone hear any news on how close they are to signing the contract and starting or is it still 'Summer'. I wouldn't be surprised if any 'news' is announced in conjunction with the Arklow-Rathnew opening.

Cantona's Collars · 30-03-2015 10:50am

PoolDude wrote: »

I didn't notice any fencing at the Gorey bypass end, perhaps it is because it is joining before the end of the current bypass and the fencing is out of sight. Do you know if it is now completed end to end?

Also anyone hear any news on how close they are to signing the contract and starting or is it still 'Summer'. I wouldn't be surprised if any 'news' is announced in conjunction with the Arklow-Rathnew opening.

Not sure about Gorey area but stakes are planted all around Enniscorthy as far as Oylegate on the East side and Templescoby where it joins the N30 on the West side.

dublintutoring · 11-04-2015 2:38pm

The erection of boundary posts is now completed along the route. Posts on the Gorey side can be seen on a hillside about 1 km north of the Clough roundabout.
As for a start date, probably December or later.

Schadenfreudia · 12-04-2015 12:50am

dublintutoring wrote: »

The erection of boundary posts is now completed along the route. Posts on the Gorey side can be seen on a hillside about 1 km north of the Clough roundabout.
As for a start date, probably December or later.

Sounds good - but I recall the CPO and boundary fences on the Rathnew - Arklow section were completed in about 2005 - and the road is still under construction!

Geogregor · 12-04-2015 9:11am

dublintutoring wrote: »

The erection of boundary posts is now completed along the route. Posts on the Gorey side can be seen on a hillside about 1 km north of the Clough roundabout.
As for a start date, probably December or later.

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Sounds good - but I recall the CPO and boundary fences on the Rathnew - Arklow section were completed in about 2005 - and the road is still under construction!

So on those contracts fencing was done by separate contractor from actual company building the road.

How, come that on M17/M18 fencing is done only now in the construction phase by the final building contractor.

Who decides when fencing should be done?

M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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