Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

RoscommonTom · 01-04-2016 7:27am

Syferus wrote: »

There's no arguable in it - Niall Daly isn't a midfielder nor will he start their in the championship if we don't have a lot of injuries. He's mobile but not big enough for ful-time duty in the middle. Compton and Corcoran are very mobile too and also are good fielders and breakers of the ball.

That said good to see both Shines and Corcoran in the 26, those three along with Compton will likely make up our first choice midfield.

theres nothing wrong with Daly, very strong team for the next day

nice_guy80 · 01-04-2016 9:35am

Niall scored three points v Donegal and should have scored another or a goal

That is what modern midfield is all about - mobility, carrying the ball and offering a scoring threat

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-04-2016 10:15am

Any word on the state of the grass ?

nice_guy80 · 01-04-2016 12:04pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Any word on the state of the grass ?

Who needs grass when we've got water?

tanko · 01-04-2016 12:32pm

What is plan B if the Hyde is unplayable?

ProudDUB · 01-04-2016 12:42pm

Croker.

cocoman · 01-04-2016 1:45pm

tanko wrote: »

What is plan B if the Hyde is unplayable?

Tullamore.

davegrohl48 · 01-04-2016 3:24pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Croker.

That was quick :-)

megadodge · 01-04-2016 3:57pm

Rumour going round that it's in Carrick on Sunday.

yabadabado · 01-04-2016 4:06pm

megadodge wrote: »

Rumour going round that it's in Carrick on Sunday.

If it is moved I'd rather it was played in Croker. No harm getting a few games there and it would suit our style of play.

Stoner · 01-04-2016 4:08pm

megadodge wrote: »

Rumour going round that it's in Carrick on Sunday.

I think that that fact that this is a more or less meaningless game is taking some of the significance from the venue.

Am i correct that this game has no impact on who goes forward in the competition or who goes down to Div 2?

This could make a decision to move the game easier for the GAA.

TBH I didn't mind where this game was going to be played, I didn't think it was a danger to the layer until it was pointed out .

Gaillimh1976 · 01-04-2016 4:12pm

tanko wrote: »

What is plan B if the Hyde is unplayable?

Carrick

Decision lunchtime Saturday

rosknight · 01-04-2016 4:21pm

Moved to Croker. confirmed on Hogan stand.

Uncle Ben · 01-04-2016 4:30pm

rosknight wrote: »

Moved to Croker. confirmed on Hogan stand.

Is this an April 1s

rosknight · 01-04-2016 4:32pm

Sunday's important NFL Division One clash featuring Roscommon and Dublin has been switched from Hyde Park to Croke Park.
Roscommon county board officials and a representative from Croke Park met at Hyde Park this morning and decided that the pitch would be simply unplayable come Sunday afternoon.
(C'mon people, you know the day that's in it. One of the smart ass's here had a little too much time on his hand. Did not realise that so many would take it seriously. Look at our last couple of words, latin experts are we, even in reverse. Apologies to those who had hotel and B&B bookings made. Roscommon PRO Hugh Lynn assures us that the game will go ahead. Here's to a good match!)
Heavy overnight rain in Roscommon and with more rain forecast for the area hastened the decision. Earlier on in the week the Rossies had also conceded home advantage to Mayo for tomorrow's Connacht under 21 decider.
Spokesman for Roscommon Town Traders, Mr Jim Harney says that business' in the town are devastated by the decision. ''This was our bumper weekend. Already the town has lost big games to Kiltoom and Longford. Every bed in a ten mile radius of the town is booked by travelling Dublin supporters." added Mr Harney. He finished by slamming the Roscommon county board and stated ''that it was about time they got their act together and properly drained the Hyde."
Roscommon team management were not that disturbed by the late change and one mentor commented, "Yes it is not nice to concede home advantage but in reality we are looking forward to playing in Croke Park, it will be an experience and hopefully this will be a common occurrence in the summer ahead."
Luckily enough Croke Park was idle on Sunday afternoon and with a crowd of 10,000 to 15,000 expected neighbouring venues would not have been able to accomodate the crowd.
Disappointed Roscommon supporters who cannot travel to HQ can watch the game on TG4 later on Sunday evening, the second game of the day. Dublin county board could not be contacted on the matter but it is understood that the next time the counties are fixed for NFL duty the Dubs will travel to Roscommon town.

padd b1975 · 01-04-2016 5:40pm

yabadabado wrote: »

If it is moved I'd rather it was played in Croker. No harm getting a few games there and it would suit our style of play.

If the Roscommon county board had any brains they'd be out with watering cans making the Hyde even more unplayable that it currently is.

An extra home game next year and against the best team in the country is unlikely to fall under dead rubber status like this year's has.

Syferus · 01-04-2016 9:09pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

If the Roscommon county board had any brains they'd be out with watering cans making the Hyde even more unplayable that it currently is.

An extra home game next year and against the best team in the country is unlikely to fall under dead rubber status like this year's has.

You're not really getting how this works at all.

padd b1975 · 01-04-2016 10:01pm

Syferus wrote: »

You're not really getting how this works at all.

If Croke Park was offered as an alternative to an unplayable Hyde Park, Roscommon would be daft to turn it down as the match is of no importance.

Next year's meeting could very well be in a totally different context.

I would have thought most teams would want as many meaningful league games at home as possible.

They're both semi finalists, treat it as a challenge match...no point being hero's in April.

It's moot anyway as I don't think Croker was ever in the picture.

seligehgit · 01-04-2016 10:04pm

So how are you guys feeling about the under 21 final tomorrow?Whilst Roscommon seek a 3 in a row,it is 7 long years since we won a Connaught championship at this very important grade and we have'nt been going very well in the interim.We suffered a right drubbing at your hands in McHale Park a couple of years.

Much expected of this Mayo team,9 members of the successful 2013 minor team started against Leitrim.Liam Irwin in addition would have started if fit.They put up quite a big score but possibly need to tighten up defensively.Hopefully we'll have a great contest.

Syferus · 02-04-2016 1:17am

padd b1975 wrote: »

If Croke Park was offered as an alternative to an unplayable Hyde Park, Roscommon would be daft to turn it down as the match is of no importance.

Next year's meeting could very well be in a totally different context.

I would have thought most teams would want as many meaningful league games at home as possible.

They're both semi finalists, treat it as a challenge match...no point being hero's in April.

It's moot anyway as I don't think Croker was ever in the picture.

Surely you understand Dublin know exactly what you said too and would be equally daft to give up a home game next year for a meaningless one this year?

padd b1975 · 02-04-2016 2:03am

Syferus wrote: »

Surely you understand Dublin know exactly what you said too and would be equally daft to give up a home game next year for a meaningless one this year?

Maybe they feel it's the lesser of two evils.
There would be less risk of serious injuries.

ProudDUB · 02-04-2016 2:09am

Syferus wrote: »

Surely you understand Dublin know exactly what you said too and would be equally daft to give up a home game next year for a meaningless one this year?

Methinks you may be over sating the importance of where the Dubs play their 2017 league games, just a tad.

The Dubs couldn't give two $hits as to where they play them. The '"morketing roysh" heads in the DCB, aren't going to be all that thrilled at the possibility of only having 2 home games in 2017. But the players and mgt couldn't give a damm. The fact that they have won 3 league titles in a row, bears that out.

In the Jim Gavin era, Dublin have lost a grand total of 4 league games...2 at home to Tyrone & Cork and 2 away to Kerry and Cork. That hardly suggests a team, who is quaking in their boots at having to play away league fixtures, regardless of how noisy the 'get the Dubs outa Croker' hype machine gets in the summer. :rolleyes:

yabadabado · 02-04-2016 9:56am

seligehgit wrote: »

So how are you guys feeling about the under 21 final tomorrow?Whilst Roscommon seek a 3 in a row,it is 7 long years since we won a Connaught championship at this very important grade and we have'nt been going very well in the interim.We suffered a right drubbing at your hands in McHale Park a couple of years.

Much expected of this Mayo team,9 members of the successful 2013 minor team started against Leitrim.Liam Irwin in addition would have started if fit.They put up quite a big score but possibly need to tighten up defensively.Hopefully we'll have a great contest.

Ros by 3 points. Would have been more more if we were allowed keep home advantage but that embarrassment in CC had to be his usual **** self.

RoscommonTom · 02-04-2016 5:53pm

the minors got an awful beating in tuam today by the Galways today, I hope the u21s do a bit better

Fr Tod Umptious · 02-04-2016 6:11pm

RoscommonTom wrote: »

the minors got an awful beating in tuam today by the Galways today, I hope the u21s do a bit better

Well they are not doing to bad so far, 1-03 to no score after 10 mins.

RoscommonTom · 02-04-2016 6:20pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well they are not doing to bad so far, 1-03 to no score after 10 mins.

sounds like a good start, early days yet with that rain though,

Kristopherus · 02-04-2016 7:29pm

FT Rossies 1-10, Mayo !-11. Bad week for ye Rossies.

yabadabado · 02-04-2016 7:41pm

Absolutely threw that game away.

Uncle Ben · 02-04-2016 9:06pm

Kristopherus wrote: »

FT Rossies 1-10, Mayo !-11. Bad week for ye Rossies.

4 in a Row for ye when the Dubs are finished tomorrow.

RoscommonTom · 02-04-2016 9:07pm

I couldnt make it to the match myself but listened on the radio, it sounded like we were the better team but **** in our pants and let them back into it, very bad week, I hope the jacks dont give us a big beating tomorrow

megadodge · 02-04-2016 9:27pm

Just back from the U21 and if ever you want to see a team throw a game away go get the DVD. So bloody frustrating!!!

Roscommon were far and away the better team in the first half and should have been much more than 5 points up at half time. It wasn't even close.

Mayo in fairness started the second half with much more urgency, but really struggled to score, outside of frees. Even when Compton went off injured and Mullooly was stupidly black-carded, Roscommon weren't ever under any major pressure, however a succession of really poor decision-making errors, especially an unbelievalbe inability to give a short hand-pass to a Roscommon team-mate's stomach instead of over his f*ckin head or too far ahead of him on a slippy surface cost Rocommon dearly. Most of Mayo's scores came from needless turnovers.

Diarmuid, once again, was class. Got the MOM award and caused panic every time the ball was put near him, even though he was double-marked for the entire game.
Ronan Daly, despite being criminally underused while wide open in the second half, played very well and every time I see Brian Stack I'm getting more impressed.
I felt sorry for Henry Walsh. When put clean through in the first half, one-on-one, he decided to go round the goalie, to 'make sure', but having swerved beautifully to wrong-foot the goalie, he bounced the ball, but the ball never came up on the wet surface. He ended up fluffing an open goal. After that, despite getting on the ball well and linking well, he was afraid to go for his own scores and ended up passing to fellas in worse positions than him. I think the missed goal chance really rattled him, but he is a very classy player, who I hope doesn't take this too badly.

megadodge · 02-04-2016 9:40pm

Any word yet on where the senior is tomorrow?

davegrohl48 · 02-04-2016 10:01pm

megadodge wrote: »

Any word yet on where the senior is tomorrow?

Well there was supposedly a stupid April Fool article on Hoganstand with some minor admitting of being an April Fool. A ridiculous sutuation as it read perfectly like a normal article bar two words of Latin whatever they were at the very end. Unsuprisingly people are now confused.

megadodge · 02-04-2016 10:34pm

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Well there was supposedly a stupid April Fool article on Hoganstand with some minor admitting of being an April Fool. A ridiculous sutuation as it read perfectly like a normal article bar two words of Latin whatever they were at the very end. Unsuprisingly people are now confused.

That's come and gone. There was supposed to be a decision made at 5 this evening. I've heard nothing.

Anybody?

megadodge · 02-04-2016 11:11pm

Just heard that there's another pitch inspection at 9am tomorrow.

I think they should have made the decision today and live with the consequences.

Uncle Ben · 02-04-2016 11:18pm

megadodge wrote: »

Just heard that there's another pitch inspection at 9am tomorrow.

I think they should have made the decision today and live with the consequences.

Not really good enough. Div 1 Gaa could do with taking a leaf out of soccer's book. If the facilities both on and off the pitch are not up to scratch the county shouldn't be able to participate. Its not fair on players of either team to play in conditions such as last week.

yabadabado · 02-04-2016 11:32pm

Half the counties wouldn't be able to participate if that was the case.

I would expect the game to go to Carrick still raining fairly heavy in Ros.

Uncle Ben · 02-04-2016 11:46pm

yabadabado wrote: »

Half the counties wouldn't be able to participate if that was the case.

I would expect the game to go to Carrick still raining fairly heavy in Ros.

I agree. However I remember following Shamrock Rovers around the country and most if not all of the grounds were sh1tholes. Then UEFA brought in minimum standards and all grounds improved, including League of Ireland.

Its not beyond the bounds for the GAA to try the same. For argument sake, why should Galway or Tyrone be in Div 2 in contrast to a team which struggles to host its games.

yabadabado · 03-04-2016 12:08am

Uncle Ben wrote: »

I agree. However I remember following Shamrock Rovers around the country and most if not all of the grounds were sh1tholes. Then UEFA brought in minimum standards and all grounds improved, including League of Ireland.

Its not beyond the bounds for the GAA to try the same. For argument sake, why should Galway or Tyrone be in Div 2 in contrast to a team which struggles to host its games.

A team should only be in Div 1 if they are good enough that's the very reason why Galway or Tyrone arent there this year.

blowitupref · 03-04-2016 12:59am

megadodge wrote: »

Just back from the U21 and if ever you want to see a team throw a game away go get the DVD. So bloody frustrating!!!

Roscommon were far and away the better team in the first half and should have been much more than 5 points up at half time. It wasn't even close.

Mayo in fairness started the second half with much more urgency, but really struggled to score, outside of frees. Even when Compton went off injured and Mullooly was stupidly black-carded, Roscommon weren't ever under any major pressure, however a succession of really poor decision-making errors, especially an unbelievalbe inability to give a short hand-pass to a Roscommon team-mate's stomach instead of over his f*ckin head or too far ahead of him on a slippy surface cost Rocommon dearly. Most of Mayo's scores came from needless turnovers.

Diarmuid, once again, was class. Got the MOM award and caused panic every time the ball was put near him, even though he was double-marked for the entire game.
Ronan Daly, despite being criminally underused while wide open in the second half, played very well and every time I see Brian Stack I'm getting more impressed.
I felt sorry for Henry Walsh. When put clean through in the first half, one-on-one, he decided to go round the goalie, to 'make sure', but having swerved beautifully to wrong-foot the goalie, he bounced the ball, but the ball never came up on the wet surface. He ended up fluffing an open goal. After that, despite getting on the ball well and linking well, he was afraid to go for his own scores and ended up passing to fellas in worse positions than him. I think the missed goal chance really rattled him, but he is a very classy player, who I hope doesn't take this too badly.

A provincial title Roscommon left behind them by all accounts

In a tight game home advantage can be worth a few points also. Any reason why Kiltoom wasn't used for this final? when you consider only a little over 2,000 was at the final in Sligo it would have held that crowd.

yabadabado · 03-04-2016 2:02am

I would say a certain man made sure Kiltoom wouldn't be allowed be used.Kiltoom could easily have held the game today.

Rawhead · 03-04-2016 8:10am

yabadabado wrote: »

I would say a certain man made sure Kiltoom wouldn't be allowed be used.Kiltoom could easily have held the game today.

Probably a kick for the ****ehole state of the Hyde. Your plans for world domination took a big setback this week. Can't see today being any better....

RoscommonTom · 03-04-2016 8:50am

wet night so id say it's in a bad state, I heard they didnt want to say to early that they are moving it in case a lot of the jacks started booking hotels in carrick stead of ross, if its any way playible they should just get on with it and dont move it

TCDStudent1 · 03-04-2016 9:17am

yabadabado wrote: »

A team should only be in Div 1 if they are good enough that's the very reason why Galway or Tyrone arent there this year.

Exactly. Teams should be there on merit. At the same time, it is an awfully embarrassing situation for Roscommon to be in. I was in Tuam for Galway - Fermanagh last week. I can't imagine there was that much difference in rainfall between this 2 locations and Tuam was in fairly good condition. Every county competing in every division should be capable of providing a pitch to play on. There should be some sort of punishment (whether fines, lose home advantage, lose points) to ensure the county puts a sustained effort into having a pitch ready

nice_guy80 · 03-04-2016 9:41am

Match moved to Carrick

theoneeyedman · 03-04-2016 9:51am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Match moved to Carrick

Least surprising news ever. On no planet close to here was the Hyde going to be playable today. I'm a proud rosie, but the carry on of the county board this week is a huge embarrassment. Croke park should throw the book at them for acting the tit all week.

RoscommonTom · 03-04-2016 10:28am

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Least surprising news ever. On no planet close to here was the Hyde going to be playable today. I'm a proud rosie, but the carry on of the county board this week is a huge embarrassment. Croke park should throw the book at them for acting the tit all week.

its ridiculous, I heard in the mart in thursday that it would be in carrick, just keeping the publicans happy by not saying it till this morning, the county board is a joke,

DDC1990 · 03-04-2016 11:07am

Disgraceful really to leave it this late. Will build a lot of ill will towards Roscommon if that shÃte goes on any more.

A lot of fans on the way down to Roscommon as we speak. Awful bad form.

cocoman · 03-04-2016 11:11am

DDC1990 wrote: »

Disgraceful really to leave it this late. Will build a lot of ill will towards Roscommon if that shÃte goes on any more.

A lot of fans on the way down to Roscommon as we speak. Awful bad form.

Yes and some were even on the train before the move was announced.

TCDStudent1 · 03-04-2016 11:15am

cocoman wrote: »

Yes and some were even on the train before the move was announced.

Hadn't even thought of that. Will there be anything to accommodate them when they arrive in Roscommon?!

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