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RuPaul's Drag Race

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Also remember that the drag community is often a safe zone for transwomen

    I wasn't going to comment here because I don't watch the show, but I do feel like I have to post because there is something I'd like you to understand. Words like 'tranny' and 'shemale' hurt. A lot. I don't know if I can sufficiently explain to you why these words hurt so much, but if you were ever in the position of having them roared at you from a passing car, or sneered at you in a bar by someone who wants to make sure you hear them and know you're not welcome, or overhear those words whispered or giggled and suddenly feel eyes on you because you wonder are people talking about you. These are words that cut to the bone for trans people, because they bring with them feelings of hatred, hostility, of derision and being ridiculed, feelings of being 'other' and unwelcome. To paraphrase a certain Irish LGBT icon...

    They. Feel. Oppressive.

    And you know, regardless of the context, those words still hurt, they are still nasty and they still serve to remind us what some parts of society think of us. When they are not used in reference to trans people, we still see that they are vicious terms, and here on boards we can see perfect examples of that when people call Linda Martin those words, precisely so they can be as hurtful as they can towards her. Those words are never nice, so when people come along and condescend to trans people that we shouldn't be so sensitive or that it's ok because it's in a certain context, or they shouldn't have to be considerate to people who those slurs directly affect, THAT feels oppressive.

    So you say that the drag community is a safe space for trans people? I think that an awful lot of transgender people have articulated how and why these words are hurtful and hateful slurs, and among many other LGBT groups that highlight how negative these slurs are, GLAAD have stated how "These words only serve to dehumanize transgender people and should not be used." I really, really don't think that there is much ambiguity left with how trans people feel about these words, so how inclusive can a community really be when they prioritize using slurs over trans people? How inclusive is it, when the only other people who are so invested in using these slurs are people who vehemently hate and despise us. The drag community right now is coming across like Jim Walsh complaining that he can't call gay people 'fairies', and how do you think this feels to trans people?

    I don't want this to get drawn into a debate, I don't want to discuss the validity of these words or if they're OK under certain circumstances, they're not. I just want to ask you to consider the impact these words have on the people they are usually directed towards. Go back to enjoying your show, and discussing the happenings of every episodes, it'll be far more interesting than my little interjection here. But I would like to leave you with the words of Carmen Carrera to consider also:
    Although I am certain RuPaul’s Drag Race didn’t mean to be offensive, let this be a learning experience. I think the show has opened up and educated the minds of many people who were ignorant to the world of drag and has made equality and respect a possibility for those involved, not only as equal beings but as phenomenal artists. There has always been a huge presence of trans artists in the drag scene. “Shemale” is an incredibly offensive term, and this whole business about if you can tell whether a woman is biological or not is getting kind of old. We live in a new world where understanding and acceptance are on the rise. Drag Race should be a little smarter about the terms they use and comprehend the fight for respect trans people are facing every minute of today. They should use their platform to educate their viewers truthfully on all facets of drag performance art.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    No, you're completely right, after discussions with friends last night I realised the implication of the words and I was absolutely wrong regarding my last post in that sense. I just want you to know I didn't mean to be malicious about it and I'm sorry for offending users here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I just want you to know I didn't mean to be malicious about it

    I didn't think it was malicious at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Finally managed to catch up on the 4 episodes I had missed last night, not a bit sad at the choices of who to send home although I nearly died when I thought my girl Ben was a goner, love her!

    Starting to get a bit sick of Courtney, she is great queen no doubt but a bit too slick and its wearing a bit thin, she doesn't seem to have anything else beyond the physical and I'm bored with her now.

    At the stage I'm really hoping Ben, Bianca and Adore make it to the top three, Adore has really improved over the past few weeks and I think she deserves it.

    Please please get rid of Darianne next, not only is she a total cow but she is nothing to look at on the runway and I can't really understand why she has survived this long. Then Joslyn who is just embarrassing.

    On the She-mail controversy I would never have thought that would be offensive but I'm not trans so words like that wouldn't be on my radar as slurs. If the trans community find it offensive it should go but it shouldn't have taken 6 seasons to do it. Its made me wonder, is drag itself not offensive then to trans women?

    Finally, on a totally different point, how amazing does Cher's mother look for 87!!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Its made me wonder, is drag itself not offensive then to trans women?

    No, not at all. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I haven't seen this weeks drag race yet, but note to self, don't look at Tumblr on Tuesdays until I have seen the episode. The Americans have stuff up pretty fast about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Can't believe how fast this series is going, down to the final 5 already. I guess two more go and then its the final three in the live show? How will I cope when its over?? :(

    Anyway, makeover week is one of my favourite shows, its always good craic seeing big burly men made over as drag queens.
    I'm kinda pissed off in a way that Adore made it through, now I love Adore and she is one of my personal top three but I think having been in the lip synch so many times she should go. Its starting to look a bit like favouritism that she is still there. I'm glad Joslyn went, hopefully next week Darienne will be out

    I'm totally over Courtney now, loved her at the start but her personality has turned me right off. Bianca who I thought was a nasty cow has really developed a heart of gold and I think she's amazing. I think this season is the tightest yet in terms of who could win, there are 3/4 very worthy winners left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I know, I'm so annoyed it's almost over. I think I read somewhere there's an All Stars 2 later this year so that'll hold us until Season 7 in FebRUrary 2015!

    Bianca = Winner. No question. If she doesn't win I'll eat my left hand.
    Adore - Surprised she has survived this far although I do like her. Think she will end up in the Top 3.
    Ben - The other top 3 finisher. Is coasting along nicely, but apart from her fly look and Snatch Game performance, nothing's really wowed me.
    Courtney - It's all body. No versatility. A real one trick pony that is giving us the same thing every time. I'm bored already. Time to go.
    Darienne - I can't say any more about her, I'm sick of her and want her to leave. Like 5 weeks ago. If she makes Top 3 I'll eat my right hand.
    Joslyn - Everything is falling apart for her at this stage. The runway look for the groom was horrible. Time's up love, go home! <lifts boob> wah! wah!

    Considering the lip-sync, Ru has said before that the performance has to match the song, so why she picked someone who was jumping around on stage like a cat on cocaine instead of the more honed in soulful performance that matched the song baffles me. Favouritism? Possibly. A wrong choice? In my opinion, yes.

    Please, next week can we have Courtney and Darienne in the bottom two, with Ru shocking everyone with a double elimination. PLEASE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Paddy C wrote: »
    Please, next week can we have Courtney and Darienne in the bottom two, with Ru shocking everyone with a double elimination. PLEASE!

    Oh I like the sound of that ;) Imagine the look on Courtney's face :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Oh I like the sound of that ;) Imagine the look on Courtney's face :D
    I am. That's why I'm grinning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    WOW!!

    you can really see now how Ru places all the emphasis on the lip-synch :O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    WOW!!

    you can really see now how Ru places all the emphasis on the lip-synch :O

    I am really surprised by that decision, wrong choice imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    My right hand is looking delicious right about now.

    Very surprised at DeLa going home and Darienne still friggin' there. She CAN'T make Top 3. She just can't. She' not talented enough and her looks are awful. She completely missed the point on the Glitter Ball looks and what she did come on the runway with looked God awful, especially the executive one. Seriously. What the hell?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    i know!! what the absolute f**k?

    her runway looks are brutal and when she dances she's like a big black bag full of yoghurt sloshing around the place

    so not talented


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    The general online reaction I've read is that DeLa should have stayed and Darienne go. No one seems happy at the result of this weeks lip-sync. Tickets are being advertised online for the reunion/crowing show on 6th May so we are so close to the end of this season. I hope we are getting All Stars 2, and they did announce Season 7 before 6 started broadcasting, so hopefully there's a Season 8 as well. I think RPDR is Logo's biggest rated show, so it's gonna run for a good few more years yet I'd say. They'd be mad to drop it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Idiopath


    What a great thread, what a great show!
    I'm absolutely sickened Dela was eliminated! I was hoping she'd win, love her look and character.. and possibly have a tiny crush on Ben outta drag. Darienne should have gone weeks ago!

    Presumably it'll be a Courtney Act/Bianca Del Rio contest for the winner (With Bianca coming out on top)

    But after Jinx monsoon beating Alaska last year - Anythings possible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Idiopath wrote: »
    What a great thread, what a great show!
    I'm absolutely sickened Dela was eliminated! I was hoping she'd win, love her look and character.. and possibly have a tiny crush on Ben outta drag. Darienne should have gone weeks ago!

    Presumably it'll be a Courtney Act/Bianca Del Rio contest for the winner (With Bianca coming out on top)

    But after Jinx monsoon beating Alaska last year - Anythings possible!

    Me too, he is gorgeous!!

    As for the winner, after last week who knows what Ru is thinking, I would like to see Bianca win as she is the best all rounder of the 4 but it could be anyone. Adore isn't a winner, she needs a few more years to hone her skills ( and learn to sew!! ), Courtney is a bit of a one trick pony and Darienne isn't even in the same league as any of those girls.

    My money is on either Bianca or Adore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I have got my friend in Drag Race and she watched the entire of Season 1 today. She wasn't happy that Nina didn't win, but says she's now totally addicted to it and is gonna binge watch the rest of the seasons over the next week or so.

    I'd love to be watching Season 4 and 5 all over again as if I'd never seen them. They were the best seasons. Whilst I love Bianca and some of the other queens from season 6, it seems to be missing something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Just finished this weeks and we now have a top 3!

    There's no Untucked for this week that I can see, I thought there would have been, if anyone has a link to it, please hook me up!

    So, now we know who the top 3 for Season 6 is, who do you want to win....?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Idiopath


    I can't even find a link for this week's ep! :-/


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Idiopath


    Found it!
    All I have to say is wow Adore Delano!


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Scruffy...The Janitor


    I'm sooo late to this thread. lol.

    Anyway, while always having a soft spot for Adore, I've thought from quite early on that Bianca was the strongest queen in the competition and was going to win it.

    I'm not too sure any more. I think the judges all have the same soft spot for adore and last year Jinkx Monsoon was my favourite but I didn't think she was the strongest. My head says Bianca, but my heart says Adore.

    I was very happy with the last elimination though. Finally! I've never liked her and I don't think she deserved to get as far as she did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Delighted with this weeks elimination - about bloody time. I have no idea who Ru will go for but I think Bianca deserves it and should win. She is very caustic though so I wonder would that go against her. Adore might just steal it but as much as I love her I don't think she deserves it, she has too much growing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Last year, the online fan voting / retweeting and reblogging for who the public wanted to win had the majority of fan votes for Jinx. She went on to win.

    So far, the online fan voting / retweeting and reblogging is mostly for Bianca with Adore coming in a not too far behind second and Courtney barely making an impact. If the fan voting really makes an impact on Ru's decision, then we could very well see Bianca win. I like Bianca and Adore so I'd be happy with either of them winning, but I think even Ru said it herself that Adore is 23 and still has a lot of growing to do and may not be ready for the title yet.

    There's no way in hell I can see Courtney winning this, but at least Darienne is gone. Another boring runway look to complete her set before she left. She even stole Adore's moves for the music video! Bitch!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Think I'm ready to start watching the season properly! Will probably be caught up within a day or two!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    There are GIF's online from Untucked, so it seems it is out there somewhere, I just couldn't see it on the sites I usually get Drag Race from. Will have to have a more thorough look later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Only recently started watching and am now finally up do date :) I'm hoping adore takes home this years title!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Adore Delano is in the Kremlin in Belfast on Friday 23rd May 2014.

    The Kremlin is also showing the final episode / crowning in the bar at 9:00pm on Tuesday 20th May 2014.

    Hmmm, maybe a trip up is in order....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Paddy C wrote: »
    Adore Delano is in the Kremlin in Belfast on Friday 23rd May 2014.

    The Kremlin is also showing the final episode / crowning live in the bar at 9:00pm on Tuesday 20th May 2014.

    Hmmm, maybe a trip up is in order....

    She's appearing in Dublin in the Dragon on the 22nd may.

    And big boobs herself Michelle Visage will be there on the 30th!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    eviltwin wrote: »
    She's appearing in Dublin in the Dragon on the 22nd may.

    And big boobs herself Michelle Visage will be there on the 30th!

    You can pre buy tickets for Michelle but Adore is just first come first serve tickets on the door, gonna head to both :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I don't like Michelle so I'm not interested in travelling to Dublin to see her. Adore is appearing up the road so I can just go there! It'll be much cheaper! Will be some atmosphere there I'm sure if she wins.

    Isn't Thursday night a weird night to have a special guest though? What about all those that have to work on Friday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    There has been a good run of Ru's girls over this side of the world recently, just hoping that Bianca will make her way across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I'd go see Bianca in a heartbeat! Hopefully she will take herself, (and the crown :P) to Ireland at some point soon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    So, only a few days to go... I'm definitely Team Bianca but I wouldn't mind if Adore won. I don't think Courtney has a chance in hell to be honest...

    Oh, and whilst bored, I made a little video for YouTube...!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Sharon Needles is coming to The Dragon in June :D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,080 ✭✭✭McChubbin


    Sharon Needles is coming to The Dragon in June :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    YAY!!
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Sharon Needles is coming to The Dragon in June :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    oh my god i think my heart just stopped for a second when i read that!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    I'm so excited :D She is my all time favourite queen!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Bianca is coming to the dragon in July :D You'd swear I worked for the dragon or something hahah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Bianca is coming to the dragon in July :D You'd swear I worked for the dragon or something hahah


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    :eek::eek::D:D:D:D

    this has just made my otherwise crap day so much better, thank you so much Sarannewrap!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Ooh, a plan to be in Dublin that weekend has just been hatched!

    Sorry, but this is how I feel...!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Oh, must also remember to avoid Twitter and Tumblr tomorrow until after I have seen the crowning episode.

    #TeamBianca


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Oh, and I've updated my video to include all 6 seasons of Drag Race. Enjoy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    eviltwin wrote: »
    :eek::eek::D:D:D:D

    this has just made my otherwise crap day so much better, thank you so much Sarannewrap!!!


    It brightened up my day too :D just spreading the joy! Can't wait to see who is crowned!!! Hope it isn't spoiled before I get to watch after work


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 mckenzie bot


    hi longtime reader first time poster going to the dragon on Thursday to see Adore Delano it will be my first drag show ever dont know what to expect. i don't care who wins tonight in the finale i love all of them i do want Ben or josyln to win ms congenality though as they've been my standout stars of the season for me also is there a taxi rank near the dragon by any chance as well just thought id ask since im going on my own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    hi longtime reader first time poster going to the dragon on Thursday to see Adore Delano it will be my first drag show ever dont know what to expect. i don't care who wins tonight in the finale i love all of them i do want Ben or josyln to win ms congenality though as they've been my standout stars of the season for me also is there a taxi rank near the dragon by any chance as well just thought id ask since im going on my own

    I've never been to a drag show either ( I'll be rectifying that now Bianca is coming to Dublin :D ) so can't tell you the specifics of that however taxi wise you will have no problems, there are always taxis up and down Georges st so you can hail one on the road easily enough, I've never had a problem getting one and its a weekday so shouldn't be too mad.

    The nearest taxi rank is probably near Stephens Green - although someone else might know one nearer, it can be a bit dodgy in that part of town at that time of night so be careful and enjoy Adore!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    can anyone pm me a link to the finale?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    can anyone pm me a link to the finale?

    Me too please!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    me three!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    It's not on the usual site I get the uncensored one from, but this did happen a few weeks ago and was up later in the evening.

    In the meantime, and just in case it doesn't, can someone PM me a link too?

    Me four!


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