Minecraft Update thread (1.8 Discussion)

Tallon · 19-04-2011 5:49pm

Just roll back to an older one

pablomakaveli · 19-04-2011 6:17pm

Just noticed after updating that having a ladder with ladder pieces on every second block doesnt work anymore. Has to be a continuous ladder now.

Kersmash · 19-04-2011 6:18pm

Was just about to comment on that!

cherryghost · 19-04-2011 6:40pm

Also, the game runs a lot smoother on my work PC since the update

Updates:
* Weather (rain, snow, thunder)
* Statistics
* Achievements
* Detector rail
* Booster rail
* Performance improvements

cherryghost · 19-04-2011 6:46pm

wires wrote: »

bugger, silly me clicked yes to the update. looks like i might have to go outside and do some real gardening now

I wasn't even asked if I could update or not, it just went ahead and did it anyway :pac:

AirBiscuit · 19-04-2011 6:55pm

There's something nobody has noticed until now: Unpowered redstone is RED! :eek:

BlandKitten · 19-04-2011 7:35pm

cherryghost wrote: »

I wasn't even asked if I could update or not, it just went ahead and did it anyway :pac:

I used to have that problem as well, then I realised I was running off of the old .exe :P

Download the new one!

humanji · 19-04-2011 9:56pm

No way! That's oing to cause no end of trouble.

cherryghost · 20-04-2011 12:16am

Oh dear god.... lot of people complaining about the update. Lots of bugs:

Repetitively putting Smeltable items in the furnace counts as a crafting statistic
Side grass will not work if on "Fast" graphics.
Achievements only work in SMP if you have already completed first achievement in Single Player.
FPS counter shows Chunk Updates instead of FPS, usually while generating new chunks
Crash when Detector Rails are placed beside normal rails.
Blocks can't be placed on snow.
If you change Advanced OpenGL to on and then back again, giant holes will appear that you can see through.
Jumping off a fence in SMP triggers an anti-flight kick.
Rain will fall through transparent blocks and stairs, acting as if there is no block there. This can be a problem if your house has a stair-made roof
When hitting a grass block the destroying animation is darker on the side than the animation on top of the grass block, though only on fancy graphics.
Flowing water no longer pushes empty minecarts that fall into it
GUI: create new world input boxes misaligned under small and normal settings
Sometimes you might not get an achievement even if you do what it requires to get. This can usually be fixed by doing it in another world.
Locked Chest is once again obtainable through inventory editing or SMP /give commands. The chests can be placed, but can't be interacted with, and they disappear shortly after placement.
In singleplayer, game resumes when 'Achievements' is clicked on the pause menu, instead of remaining paused.
Riding in a minecart from the south into a corner going from north to west (so it's not connected to the current track) will crash the game. Possibly also true for other directions, yet if you're going in the same corner coming from the east, it will work as usual.
Trying to redirect a rail corner to another track using redstone (a switch) will crash the game.
Detector rails does not transfer power to rails connected on a slope.
Burning animation on furnaces may remain after done smelting.

Think it might take longer than normal for bukkit to be updated, the devs could be sitting on a rock with this one, not recoding until 1.5_01 is released for hotfixing.

AirBiscuit · 20-04-2011 1:05am

cherryghost wrote: »

Side grass will not work if on "Fast" graphics.

That's not even included in the update, it already works on fast, but the fix was for Fancy only

BlandKitten · 20-04-2011 1:24am

Well, this may take some time to iron out everything.
Still, I expect 1.5_01 in about a week. Usually they patch things like this pretty quickly. That or another no-version update. Hopefully done by then, but I'd say about two weeks for everything, including mods and plugins, to be running as usual.

Just some late night speculations :P

Quazzie · 20-04-2011 1:09pm

When it rains the mobs stay out during the day as the clouds block the sun :eek:

Professional Griefer · 20-04-2011 1:39pm

BlandKitten wrote: »

Well, this may take some time to iron out everything.
Still, I expect 1.5_01 in about a week. Usually they patch things like this pretty quickly. That or another no-version update. Hopefully done by then, but I'd say about two weeks for everything, including mods and plugins, to be running as usual.

Just some late night speculations :P

Apparently its out already.

Edit: ''Minecraft server beta 1.5_02 is out. A last minute tweak caused the biiig bug in 1.5_01, sorry.''

BlandKitten · 20-04-2011 9:12pm

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Apparently its out already.

Edit: ''Minecraft server beta 1.5_02 is out. A last minute tweak caused the biiig bug in 1.5_01, sorry.''

Oh wow, time to look into this.

AirBiscuit · 20-04-2011 9:22pm

BlandKitten wrote: »

Oh wow, time to look into this.

1.5_01 is out, BUT the post above is about the SERVER edition.

cherryghost · 20-04-2011 9:29pm

Bukkit devs are cracking on now as I speak. Hopefully they'll have a stable one within the next 24 hours

AirBiscuit · 20-04-2011 9:48pm

cherryghost wrote: »

Bukkit devs are cracking on now as I speak. Hopefully they'll have a stable one within the next 24 hours

Can we not go looting like the last time?

cherryghost · 23-05-2011 10:40am

1.6 is out this week!

humanji · 23-05-2011 11:22am

Cherryghost wrote:

1.6 is out this week!

Just read up on it now. Apparently only one new feature, but it's and automap! Looks pretty cool if this is a genuine pic:

cherryghost · 23-05-2011 12:46pm

It is yeah, has to made out of paper obviously :P

There's also supposedly proper pistons, skyworld and something else he hasn't revealed yet, as well as network and bug fixes. Also the nether will be 100% fixed for multiplayer

Genghiz Cohen · 23-05-2011 1:58pm

Trapdoors?

pablomakaveli · 23-05-2011 3:02pm

I think Notch mentioned trying the Skyworld in his twitter but i didnt work very well so maybe that mightnt be included.

pablomakaveli · 23-05-2011 3:23pm

Looks like it'll be released Wednesday or Thursday.

AirBiscuit · 23-05-2011 4:42pm

humanji wrote: »

Just read up on it now. Apparently only one new feature, but it's and automap! Looks pretty cool if this is a genuine pic:

You forget these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dtYx0PUtyg

Xenon560 · 23-05-2011 5:49pm

gavmcg92 wrote: »

They could have gotten in by breaking that block in the first picture.

Nah, coz almost every door is locked and he got in serveral places

Fajitas! wrote: »

Yeah, someone dug down in my chapel building in Cherrytown too, and broke up one of my library blocks in the town at spawn. I know it's nothing major, but if it's not griefing either put up a notice saying sorry, or replace it.

(Ps, what texture mod is that, Xenon?)

Its LB Photo Realism

killerhitman · 23-05-2011 8:59pm

the full change list for 1.6
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/5775170768/the-changelist-for-1-6

gavmcg92 · 24-05-2011 11:36am

cherryghost wrote: »

1.6 is out this week!

Looks like a good patch...

Trapdoors (If that is what he means by "Hatches")

Long grass (no longer able to get seeds from hoeing grass have to go through the long grass) (PS I hope that means Pokemon lol)

Map

Nether for Multiplayer

I guess I need to save my minecraft.jar file for 1.5 now so that I won't be left waiting for the updates.

cherryghost · 24-05-2011 11:44am

Moved posts.

Some network fixes in the patch too so fingers crossed the lag issues will be reduced/fixed

pablomakaveli · 24-05-2011 3:09pm

It'll be great to have the Nether active now as well. Maybe we can attempt to build a little town in there though the ghasts might make that difficult.

gavmcg92 · 24-05-2011 6:51pm

pablomakaveli wrote: »

It'll be great to have the Nether active now as well. Maybe we can attempt to build a little town in there though the ghasts might make that difficult.

Maybe not a town but a fortress!

cherryghost · 24-05-2011 9:06pm

gavmcg92 wrote: »

Maybe not a town but a fortress!

Sounds like a great team build :P

pablomakaveli · 24-05-2011 9:07pm

Will the towny mod be implemented after this update?

cherryghost · 24-05-2011 9:19pm

It's on hold at the moment but if it is because of the server instability stuff, but from what the patch notes say it seems Notch has fixed it somewhat. So yeah, I hope it will :P

humanji · 26-05-2011 10:30am

1.6 is out now for those who want to give it a whirl.

Edit: and almost immediately, 1.6.2 is out.

And it's crashing every couple of minutes. Not even freezing, just quitting completely. People may want to wait for a few more updates to it before updating.

Right, at this stage I'm willing to call it a buggy mess. It crashes all the time, you get moments when every block except lava disappears, there's a strange bug where you use planks to fuel a furnace but the planks never run out (this ones actually quite handy), and the lights keep going out.

cherryghost · 26-05-2011 11:53am

Cheers Humanji, I'll keep the server running on 1.5 in that case. Was going to run it in Vanilla 1.6 but don't see any point if it just keeps crashing.

seamus · 26-05-2011 1:39pm

Yeah, 1.6.2 seems pretty buggy. I found myself trying to swap out an old pickaxe for a new one and when I clicked on the new pickaxe, the old one disappeared.

I also found that by right-clicking a single iron block into a furnace, it would create a new iron block in the furnance and leave the one I have "grabbed". I can create an infinite number of iron blocks (keep right-clicking). I have 400 of them smelting right now

Genghiz Cohen · 26-05-2011 1:40pm

Won't my client update as soon as I log in?
Won't that stop me from playing one the 1.5 server?

humanji · 26-05-2011 1:42pm

I've noticed that sometimes if you left click a group of ore blocks, all but one disappear. It's a pain in the hoop!

seamus · 26-05-2011 1:45pm

humanji wrote: »

I've noticed that sometimes if you left click a group of ore blocks, all but one disappear. It's a pain in the hoop!

Kepp right-clicking and you should be able to create as many block as you want. Or with furnace:

Stick a single coal block in the bottom row. Take a single block of anything which you can use in the furnace, and right-click, then again, and again, and again. And you can keep creating them to your heart's desire. Got a few hundred gold blocks smelting now, this'll make mining for diamond much easier.

ShadowHearth · 26-05-2011 2:04pm

so how do you make the maps and trap doors? whatsthe receipe?

humanji · 26-05-2011 2:40pm

1.6.3 is out now. It's a bit more stable, but haven't tested it much.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Won't my client update as soon as I log in?
Won't that stop me from playing one the 1.5 server?

When you start the game up it'll ask you if you want to update. Just say no and you should be fine.

seamus wrote: »

Kepp right-clicking and you should be able to create as many block as you want. Or with furnace:

Stick a single coal block in the bottom row. Take a single block of anything which you can use in the furnace, and right-click, then again, and again, and again. And you can keep creating them to your heart's desire. Got a few hundred gold blocks smelting now, this'll make mining for diamond much easier.

1.6.3 seems to have put a stop to this.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

so how do you make the maps and trap doors? whatsthe receipe?

The map is a compass surrounded by 8 paper. The trapdoor is 6 blocks of wood taking up the bottom 6 squares of the crafting table.

EDIT: Now it's telling me that I don't have a graphics card and won't start anymore. So I guess I'm waiting until 1.6.4

humanji · 26-05-2011 3:03pm

I may as well give a mini review of the less bugged part of the update.

The tall grass is a bit odd looking at first, but I'm kind of happy now that I'm not going to have my inventory filled everytime I till a bit of land for crops.

I didn't get to play with the trapdoor much, but it's a cool little addition. You can link a load of them together (I've been told they make a great drawbridge) with redstone and they're also a nice pattern for those who want to use them as standard floor tiles.

The map, from what I can tell, is next to useless. It doesn't cover a particularly large area and only really serves to show you places that you're already going to be familiar with. The quality of it isn't up to much either. Someone might find a use for it, but it just seems like a waste of a compass to me.

One thing I didn't get to check, but heard of is that they've removed booster carts.

All in all, I could really have done without this update.

humanji · 26-05-2011 3:22pm

And 1.6.4 is out. Still crashes, but at least I can get in now. Some frame rate issues, but they're at least on the right track.

pablomakaveli · 26-05-2011 4:19pm

The map is a bit dissappointing really. Theres not a lot of detail in them. I could only make out some of the larger buildings but smaller ones dont seem to show very well.

Genghiz Cohen · 26-05-2011 4:45pm

pablomakaveli wrote: »

The map is a bit dissappointing really. Theres not a lot of detail in them. I could only make out some of the larger buildings but smaller ones dont seem to show very well.

They should have the ability to let you draw on them. (maybe make a charcoal pen out of furnaced sticks

) so you can mark points of interest.

(May have that, haven't played yet.)

Saviola · 26-05-2011 5:15pm

Hmm im just getting a black screen of death, wish i hadn't updated...

jak/mar · 26-05-2011 8:21pm

I can confirm that booster carts are no longer working

humanji · 26-05-2011 8:29pm

I hope to god they give the powered rails a bit of actual power now. With the booster carts gone, my minecart system is utterly useless.

ShadowHearth · 26-05-2011 9:26pm

lads, does the tall grass grows in allready made worlds? i cant see any tall grass in my sp game at all, but i can get it when i make new world

any ideas on that?

humanji · 26-05-2011 10:04pm

No idea, I'm afraid. I started with a fresh install.

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