N7 - Newlands Cross upgrade

slinky2000 · 26-09-2014 12:55pm

FYI I'm not complaining, just wanting to hear people thoughts on the subject.

slinky2000 · 26-09-2014 12:56pm

What's the most recent estimated completion date of the project? I looked through the thread but couldn't find anything 'concrete'.

cargo · 26-09-2014 1:37pm

slinky2000 wrote: »

What's the most recent estimated completion date of the project? I looked through the thread but couldn't find anything 'concrete'.

I see what you did there :-)

Latest estimates are for traffic to be up and over for the October bank holiday weekend. I'd say they will easily make this.

Then tidying up around the slip roads etc will continue to the start of the New year. I'd expect they will probably even be fully complete though by Christmas.

Frank Grimes · 26-09-2014 5:27pm

slinky2000 wrote: »

What's the most recent estimated completion date of the project? I looked through the thread but couldn't find anything 'concrete'.

I live near Newlands Cross. We got a letter from BAM on the 11th of this month about night time works, on that they stated that "...the works are on schedule to be completed by the end of January 2015".

26-09-2014 7:04pm

rameire wrote: »

the new pinch points will be the Naas Road + Long Mile Road junction, this will need a Flyover next.

Wasn't that downgraded to an "R" road, if so then it'll never get a flyover!

omicron · 26-09-2014 7:07pm

rameire wrote: »

the new pinch points will be the Naas Road + Long Mile Road junction, this will need a Flyover next.

I can't imagine that would feature anywhere near the top of a list of infrastructure that Dublin needs!

Chris_5339762 · 26-09-2014 7:11pm

Inbound will make little to no difference... there will still be a jam at the Red Cow as that will be the lane shuffling bottleneck. The M50 will get heavier just like it did when the M1 widening was done.

Outbound in the evenings will be better, however, I'd still fear there'll be jams at the 5 into 3 section before Newlands, just when you come off the M50. We'll have to see!

cnoc · 26-09-2014 7:18pm

Are there any diversions at Newlands X when driving northbound to the airport?

rameire · 26-09-2014 7:20pm

omicron wrote: »

I can't imagine that would feature anywhere near the top of a list of infrastructure that Dublin needs!

honestly it will probably get a flyover when the m50 gets a double decker,
and that not happening as there is no room for it, as said by the NRA.

rameire · 26-09-2014 7:22pm

cnoc wrote: »

Are there any diversions at Newlands X when driving northbound to the airport?

nope you can take all lanes heading past Newlands, but if your not comfortable in the road layout, stay in the left two lanes when heading northbound on the m50.

and if the traffic is crazy like it will be this weekend for the match, it may be advisable to take the outer ring road to the n4 and join the m50 from this road.

Davy · 26-09-2014 7:24pm

cnoc wrote: »

Are there any diversions at Newlands X when driving northbound to the airport?

Lanes are moved over slightly, but stay in the left lane the whole wayfrom the green isle hotel and it will bring you onto the M50 NB.

cnoc · 26-09-2014 7:40pm

Thanks Rameire and Davy - much appreciated.

misspiggy40 · 26-09-2014 8:13pm

Hi all. Just wanted to ask if the traffic is much worse at the moment than it was, say before the summer, at Newlands cross in the mornings. I was travelling through about 7.45 before the summer and will be doing so again in a couple of weeks. What would I need to add on to the time it took to get through before in order to be allowing enough time??

rameire · 26-09-2014 8:16pm

add 5 to 10 minutes.
say 10,
if you are using the M50 southbound add 5 to 10 on again as it is busier southbound since colleges and schools are back

Davy · 26-09-2014 11:11pm

Davy · 26-09-2014 11:11pm

Sept 17th

Sept 24th

Sept 26th - New wall

gilly0512 · 27-09-2014 12:23am

slinky2000 wrote: »

Maybe this has been talked about, but what's the impact likely to be on the roads inbound from Newlands after this has finished? Surely this means many thousands of extra cars hitting the m50 city inbound quicker than at present just pushing the problem closer to the city?

Even outbound might be bad, look at Friday evenings on the n7 at present!

I think that it could get a lot worse on the M7/N7 in or around Naas once the flyover opens, as currently you have big tailbacks from about 5pm onwards each day from Johnstown to Junction 11 (M9) due to the N7 going from three lanes down to two as it becomes the M7. The lights at Newlands Cross would have somewhat staggered the traffic heading southbound, now with no lights on the N7, will this not mean bigger tailbacks in and around Naas each afternoon? I know there are plans to make the M7 three lanes each way from Naas to the M9 Junction, but that's probably still a good few years off.

ukoda · 27-09-2014 2:12pm

gilly2308 wrote: »

I think that it could get a lot worse on the M7/N7 in or around Naas once the flyover opens, as currently you have big tailbacks from about 5pm onwards each day from Johnstown to Junction 11 (M9) due to the N7 going from three lanes down to two as it becomes the M7. The lights at Newlands Cross would have somewhat staggered the traffic heading southbound, now with no lights on the N7, will this not mean bigger tailbacks in and around Naas each afternoon? I know there are plans to make the M7 three lanes each way from Naas to the M9 Junction, but that's probably still a good few years off.

i wouldn't think so, id imagine that with newlands backing up the traffic there would cause a 'burst' of cars all hitting this spot at once, id imagine it might flow a bit smoother now?

Cap1 · 27-09-2014 9:36pm

rameire wrote:

the new pinch points will be the Naas Road + Long Mile Road junction, this will need a Flyover next.

I think this would be a far bigger job then newlands cross. The lights alone are twice the size of newlands cross.

Roryhy · 27-09-2014 11:18pm

Cap1 wrote: »

I think this would be a far bigger job then newlands cross. The lights alone are twice the size of newlands cross.

I go through this everyday and the only pinchpoint that needs relief is maybe a freeflow lane onto the Nangor Rd.

ciarsd · 29-09-2014 10:01am

Don't know what was happening last night, but traffic inbound was backed up to Kingswood (exit 2) at 8pm and Citywest (exit 3) at 930pm!

spacetweek · 29-09-2014 12:48pm

Roryhy wrote: »

I go through this everyday and the only pinchpoint that needs relief is maybe a freeflow lane onto the Nangor Rd.

Don't they have that here? That's the one I use.

highdef · 29-09-2014 1:00pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Don't they have that here? That's the one I use.

I could be wrong but I would imagine that Roryhy is a freeflow lane onto Nangor Road from the R110 outbound, not inbound.

Mitch Connor · 29-09-2014 1:06pm

Why are they building another cladding wall to the left of the flyover outbound? sectioning off a filter lane inside it?

rameire · 29-09-2014 1:25pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Why are they building another cladding wall to the left of the flyover outbound? sectioning off a filter lane inside it?

This will be the real boundary wall when all things are finished.

medoc · 29-09-2014 3:38pm

Will this be Junction 1a when finished? Why wasn't a number left when the N/M7 junctions were re numbered?

AugustusMinimus · 29-09-2014 3:52pm

medoc wrote: »

Will this be Junction 1a when finished? Why wasn't a number left when the N/M7 junctions were re numbered?

Originally a new offline built was expected to be done between Naas and a new junction on the M50. However, this was scrapped for both cost purposes and so the Naas road would have 3 lanes in time for the Ryder Cup.

The new motorway would have had 1 junction less than the current Naas Road.

BuzzFish · 29-09-2014 4:14pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Originally a new offline built was expected to be done between Naas and a new junction on the M50. However, this was scrapped for both cost purposes and so the Naas road would have 3 lanes in time for the Ryder Cup.

The new motorway would have had 1 junction less than the current Naas Road.

Hence the lack of Junction8 on the M50

BuzzFish · 29-09-2014 4:36pm

A timelapse update (one shot per day since works start), just to demo progress.

RichardoKhan · 29-09-2014 4:46pm

BuzzFish wrote: »

A timelapse update (one shot per day since works start), just to demo progress.

Found yer background music to the finished video :cool:

medoc · 29-09-2014 9:37pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Originally a new offline built was expected to be done between Naas and a new junction on the M50. However, this was scrapped for both cost purposes and so the Naas road would have 3 lanes in time for the Ryder Cup.

The new motorway would have had 1 junction less than the current Naas Road.

Cheers bud. I was aware of the M7 plans and it been the reason for the lack of an M50 junction 8 but I thought the N/M7 junction re numbering happened after these plans had changed. They can call Newlands what ever they want once it's finished ASAP lol.

spacetweek · 30-09-2014 1:15pm

medoc wrote: »

Will this be Junction 1a when finished? Why wasn't a number left when the N/M7 junctions were re numbered?

In fact junctions are also proposed to be built at Millennium Park on the Naas Bypass and Tootenhill west of Rathcoole. Junction numbers weren't reserved for those either!

jd · 30-09-2014 2:32pm

rameire wrote: »

This will be the real boundary wall when all things are finished.

Yup working away on it.

What happens to the land being used currently for temporary lanes, I wonder?

Vanquished · 30-09-2014 2:41pm

I presume it reverts back to the golf course and any other landowners.

Mitch Connor · 30-09-2014 2:50pm

Those lanes will be repurposed as far as I remember. Outbound, 2 lanes (right and central) for turning towards clondalkin at newlands cross. bus lane (left) for straight on and a lane left of that again for turning towards tallagh. You'd need the lanes the other side to take the traffic coming from tallagh and clondalkin heading towards naas, merging with the flyover as it comes down.

The other side, inbound, would be the same set up, I assume.

ardmacha · 30-09-2014 3:04pm

jd wrote: »

Yup working away on it.

What happens to the land being used currently for temporary lanes, I wonder?

Why didn't they use plain blocks for the inner leaf, if it is going to be covered up?

D Trent · 30-09-2014 3:13pm

ardmacha wrote: »

Why didn't they use plain blocks for the inner leaf, if it is going to be covered up?

That image can be deceiving.
You're looking at 2 different walls

doolox · 30-09-2014 3:20pm

The blocks on the front wall are the same as the small blocks on the other wall which is probably a couple of meters back, probably bounding a single lane road leading off the main thruway.

rameire · 30-09-2014 3:44pm

the space between the two walls are where the permanent lanes of traffic for heading to clondalkin and onto belgard road and the bus lane will be.
the space on this side of the nearest wall will be where all the cows will station themselves to look at this pretty wall.
this wall on completion will join up to the first lovely wall that was built up beside the farm shed close to the luas.

BuzzFish · 01-10-2014 9:56am

Nice to see proper block work being used here as opposed to the slabs on the bridge ramp.

ciarsd · 01-10-2014 5:27pm

BuzzFish wrote: »

Nice to see proper block work being used here as opposed to the slabs on the bridge ramp.

Why? I thought the precast makes perfect sense from a cost and speed of install point of view.

BuzzFish · 01-10-2014 6:30pm

ciarsd wrote: »

Why? I thought the precast makes perfect sense from a cost and speed of install point of view.

I just thing that as the structure has a very long, it's nice to see a little craftsmanship in the detail... Like the old walls of Connemara :-)
I remember when the n11 was widened at foxrock all the walling was hand built...added to construction but looks very clean and integrates well these years later. The slabs on the ramps at newlands look a bit "cheap" to me.

Roryhy · 01-10-2014 10:51pm

They really seem to be flying getting blacktop down!

Davy · 02-10-2014 9:57pm

Roryhy wrote: »

They really seem to be flying getting blacktop down!

From Esso to the peak of the bridge seems to be fully complete, with markings installed for cats eyes this evening by the looks of it. Plenty of asphalt still needed on the kildare side of the crossing.

Someday · 03-10-2014 4:41pm

When is the bridge opening, 3 weeks?

cargo · 03-10-2014 5:14pm

Someday wrote: »

When is the bridge opening, 3 weeks?

Thats what the last update said. They expect to have cars going over the ramp by the bank holiday weekend.

spacetweek · 07-10-2014 12:33pm

There's a great view of the flyover from the Luas P&R bridge, will try to get a pic.

limklad · 07-10-2014 1:41pm

cargo wrote: »

Thats what the last update said. They expect to have cars going over the ramp by the bank holiday weekend.

That would be brillant news for me. I have 5 trips to Dublin over November. That will get rid of the Stop and go traffic. Now they will have to expand the road from Naas to Cork Motorway from two to three lanes. It is hectic at rush hours traffic.

toastedpickles · 07-10-2014 1:43pm

limklad wrote: »

That would be brillant news for me. I have 5 trips to Dublin over November. That will get rid of the Stop and go traffic. Now they will have to expand the road from Naas to Cork Motorway from two to three lanes. It is hectic at rush hours traffic.

They're up to something around the m7/9 junction lately, felling trees, a few resurfacing machines too here and there, down to one lane, dunno if they're planning ahead but somethings going on

limklad · 07-10-2014 2:27pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

They're up to something around the m7/9 junction lately, felling trees, a few resurfacing machines too here and there, down to one lane, dunno if they're planning ahead but somethings going on

I already saw that last weekend when I was up there. Three different spots they reduce the south bound lanes to one lane. They were working late at night when I traveled back down to Limerick on Saturday night. In fairness, the work needed to be done also.

N7 - Newlands Cross upgrade

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