Prime Time Special - Child Care in Ireland (No Downloads - Please Read Post #1)

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 4:16pm #1

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RTÉ will broadcast its exposé into alleged poor quality of childcare in crèches this evening, Tuesday May 28th, 2013.

The station said its investigative unit’s report, ‘A Breach of Trust’ will be broadcast on RTE One at 9.35pm. A Prime Time studio audience discussion will follow the report at 10:35pm.

The programme raises concerns about overall standards of childcare in Ireland, based on evidence gathered from HSE Inspection reports, internal HSE documentation and undercover filming in three crèches.

The programme demonstrates that standards of childcare in three crèches (the Links crèche in Abington, Giraffe crèche in Belarmine, Stepaside, and Little Harvard in Rathnew, Co. Wicklow) were in breach of HSE regulations and childcare guidelines. The programme finds various degrees of mistreatment of young children in specific rooms of the crèches, involving inadequate care and serious breaches of child care regulations.

The programme also features commentary from the following childcare experts: Professor Noirin Hayes Professor of Early Years Childhhod Care & Education, Prof Sheila Greene Developmental Psychologist TCD, Dr Caitriona O’Toole Developmental Psychologist NUI Maynooth, Irene Gunning (Early Childhood Ireland).

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2013/0528/453196-rte-investigations-unit-documentary-on-standards-in-childcare/

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-to-broadcast-childcare-investigation-tonight-29303189.html

Please note:

RTÉ have issued a statement to say that they will not be repeating this programme and it will not be available on the RTÉ Player.

Sliver.Eye · 28-05-2013 4:44pm

More propaganda from RTE.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 4:46pm

Sliver.Eye wrote: »

More propaganda from RTE.

Do you not think that it would be more prudent to actually watch the programme before rushing to judgement :rolleyes:

JonathanAnon · 28-05-2013 5:03pm

Sliver.Eye wrote: »

More propaganda from RTE.

More propaganda from MrsD007

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 5:07pm

JonathanAnon wrote: »

More propaganda from MrsD007

Reported Post - Personal Abuse

:D

You wouldn't make that comment in the Clare forum, Jonathan

Skid X · 28-05-2013 5:18pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTÉ have issued a statement to say that they will not be repeating this programme and it will not be available on the RTÉ Player.

Thanks for that warning, MrsD.

There will be a lot of anxious parents and creche workers watching tonight. This is a subject which deserves more attention than it receives.

At the same time, I hope the report is balanced and fair. There will be huge scrutiny of this programme in light of the 'Mission to Prey?' debacle.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 5:54pm

Skid, I hope the documentary is fair and balanced too. If it is, it might do some good in the same way as the Lees Cross exposé did a few years ago.

Lisha · 28-05-2013 6:23pm

I will be watching this program with great interest.
However I am slightly bothered that a paid staff member was in the crèche with the sole intention to gather information that would be damning to the crèche.
The staff/child ratios are tight enough without having one staff member with a separate agenda in mind. Thus effectively left the crèche even further understaffed.
Now while I do understand that positives will come out of this investigation I have my misgivings about how it was filmed.
The safety of children is of course paramount.

fryup · 28-05-2013 6:30pm

a storm in a teacup i bet ya

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 7:00pm

Lisha wrote: »

I will be watching this program with great interest.
However I am slightly bothered that a paid staff member was in the crèche with the sole intention to gather information that would be damning to the crèche.
The staff/child ratios are tight enough without having one staff member with a separate agenda in mind. Thus effectively left the crèche even further understaffed.
Now while I do understand that positives will come out of this investigation I have my misgivings about how it was filmed.
The safety of children is of course paramount.

I remember in the Lees Cross programme, the people who worked on the exposé were qualified and experienced care assistants who appeared to do a good job caring for service users while they were there. In some cases they were the only people seeing to the services users late at night because some of the other staff were asleep or doing other things.

I know someone who had a parent in Lees Cross at the time and they were extremely grateful to the care assistants who went undercover, without them and the programme, they may never have become aware of the abuse and neglect that was going on there. While I wouldn't like to think of someone working undercover in my workplace or in my child's school, sometimes the end justifies the means.

Heroditas · 28-05-2013 8:05pm

I'm in two minds about watching this programme.
On the one hand I want to see what the heck is going on but, on the other, I reckon it could make uncomfortable viewing particularly when my wife is going back to work from maternity leave with our first child next Tuesday!
I also have friends whose child is in the Giraffe crèche in the programme so it'll be interesting to hear what they make of it.

evilivor · 28-05-2013 8:53pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTÉ will broadcast its exposé into alleged poor quality of childcare in crèches this evening, Tuesday May 28th, 2013.

The station said its investigative unit’s report, ‘A Breach of Trust’ will be broadcast on RTE One at 9.35pm. A Prime Time studio audience discussion will follow the report at 10:35pm.

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2013/0528/453196-rte-investigations-unit-documentary-on-standards-in-childcare/

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-to-broadcast-childcare-investigation-tonight-29303189.html

Please note:

RTÉ have issued a statement to say that they will not be repeating this programme and it will not be available on the RTÉ Player.

Presume it'll be available on the +1 channel though tonight?

hotmail.com · 28-05-2013 9:01pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTÉ will broadcast its exposé into alleged poor quality of childcare in crèches this evening, Tuesday May 28th, 2013.

The station said its investigative unit’s report, ‘A Breach of Trust’ will be broadcast on RTE One at 9.35pm. A Prime Time studio audience discussion will follow the report at 10:35pm.

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2013/0528/453196-rte-investigations-unit-documentary-on-standards-in-childcare/

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-to-broadcast-childcare-investigation-tonight-29303189.html

Please note:

RTÉ have issued a statement to say that they will not be repeating this programme and it will not be available on the RTÉ Player.

That's odd that RTE won't repeat it, can anyone shed some legal reasoning behind that?

I'm going to wait to see it before making my mind. I'm sure plenty of people will watch it after the publicity.

Skid X · 28-05-2013 9:22pm

evilivor wrote: »

Presume it'll be available on the +1 channel though tonight?

I wouldn't be certain of that - sometimes Movies and live events like Sport are not broadcast on +1 Channels for licensing reasons, so they may decide to block it on RTE One +1

hotmail.com wrote: »

That's odd that RTE won't repeat it, can anyone shed some legal reasoning behind that?

Possibly something to do with this, maybe it is a compromise agreed with parents of children who attended the creches

It is the express wish of the parents of the children involved that no screengrabs relating to crèche footage are reproduced in broadcast, print or online.

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2013/0528/453196-rte-investigations-unit-documentary-on-standards-in-childcare/

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 9:36pm

Lot of extra adverts tonight, RTE are taking advantage of the increase in viewer numbers.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 9:39pm

My heart goes out the parents of children involved in this programme, it's going to be very distressing for them to have watch this. Hopefully, some good will come from it.

Neeson · 28-05-2013 9:42pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTÉ have issued a statement to say that they will not be repeating this programme and it will not be available on the RTÉ Player.

Sure I read in the journal it was because they didn't want journalists taking screenshots,etc.

But sure we can just record it and keep it for ever and show it to who we like?

Lapin · 28-05-2013 9:47pm

As someone who works with children of this age with special needs, I'm finding this very difficult and disturbing to watch.

My blood is boiling here.

Reamer Fanny · 28-05-2013 9:48pm

****s about to hit the fan for Giraffe

vforvictory · 28-05-2013 9:48pm

Strap the wee feckers in and a good clip around the ear!

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 9:48pm

This is so fcuking cruel :mad:

Sunnyisland · 28-05-2013 9:49pm

Cheeses.

Lisha · 28-05-2013 9:50pm

I agree Lapin

I really was hoping it was a storm in a tea cup as an earlier poster said but no it's an absolute disgrace .
I hope the 'will I put it in the bin' was the one who got fired

EmptyTree · 28-05-2013 9:51pm

"Have you worked in a creche before??"

Sounds like this isn't the only creche that that particular worker has exercised that sort of practice in.

Missyelliot2 · 28-05-2013 9:52pm

I feel sick watching this....the parents of those poor babies.
That silly blond cow screaming at the baby

take everything · 28-05-2013 9:52pm

Poor little mites.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 9:53pm

Lapin wrote: »

As someone who works with children of this age with special needs, I'm finding this very difficult and disturbing to watch.

My blood is boiling here.

Imagine this lot working with non-verbal children, it's scary, obviously they wouldn't be able to communicate their issues with their parents.

Atlantic Dawn · 28-05-2013 9:53pm

What I am confused about is why the creche workers talk to the kids as if the kids have a clue what they are saying "you are going to the babies room".

Lisha · 28-05-2013 9:54pm

Thank @&€) mine never went to a crèche , them sleeping by day was never easy to achieve
I am so angry at that one shouting at child to go to sleep
Her tone is so agressive

mickey1979 · 28-05-2013 9:54pm

Think the four gold mines are going to getting a visit from angry parentos

tommyboy2222 · 28-05-2013 9:55pm

Parents paying through the nose for this.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 9:55pm

I wouldn't let the Blonde one mind a dog :mad:

Missyelliot2 · 28-05-2013 9:55pm

She has the blanket over the babies head!

take everything · 28-05-2013 9:56pm

This is terrible. :mad:

swingking · 28-05-2013 9:56pm

they should be fcuked out on their ear

username123 · 28-05-2013 9:56pm

I cant possibly see this place staying in business after this.

EmptyTree · 28-05-2013 9:56pm

How could she expect the child to go to sleep while she is roaring at the poor thing.

Reamer Fanny · 28-05-2013 9:57pm

Bye bye Giraffe

Missyelliot2 · 28-05-2013 9:57pm

I really hope they are made pay for this.....it's really disturbing

Atlantic Dawn · 28-05-2013 9:57pm

It's all very much like the Prime Time show they did some years ago on HSE regulation in Nursing Homes.

jmch81 · 28-05-2013 9:57pm

justryan wrote: »

Bye bye Giraffe

Good riddance.

jmch81 · 28-05-2013 9:58pm

1 million! Shocking.

redman · 28-05-2013 9:59pm

truly awful stuff

peppapig24 · 28-05-2013 9:59pm

In tears watching it very sad. More than one staff member involved so why only one sacked?

neemish · 28-05-2013 9:59pm

Don't know how much more I can watch.. If this is how i feel just watching it, what was it like for the kids

EmptyTree · 28-05-2013 9:59pm

Only one suspended??:eek:

tommyboy2222 · 28-05-2013 10:00pm

Women do be liking d'oul smartphones

SuperInfinity · 28-05-2013 10:01pm

god I want to belt those bitches over the head so badly. :mad: Lie down yourself you fat whore.

Lady Chatterton · 28-05-2013 10:01pm

peppapig24 wrote: »

In tears watching it very sad. More than one staff member involved so why only one sacked?

There are bound to be some decent staff working in these places too and it's going to very difficult for them.

artful_codger · 28-05-2013 10:03pm

justryan wrote: »

Bye bye Giraffe

The owners will just wind up the business and re-establish under a different name. Same thing happens all the time.

EdCastle · 28-05-2013 10:04pm

Creches are a joke. Why would you leave your kids with a bunch of strangers?

Back in the day, parents actually looked after their kids at home.

Fact is...if you leave your kids out of your care then anything could be happening.

Child care my ar*e!

Prime Time Special - Child Care in Ireland (No Downloads - Please Read Post #1)

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