Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

HERE'S YOUR TRAILER, LADS! I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS IN AN ATEMPT TO RECREATE THE NARRATOR'S OVER-THE-TOP VOICE!!

deathrider wrote: »

HERE'S YOUR TRAILER, LADS! I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS IN AN ATEMPT TO RECREATE THE NARRATOR'S OVER-THE-TOP VOICE!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LP8Qd8QOM

Hoping that they bring back Thunder and Riptor. those were "my mains" when i was a kid playing it on Koko's SNES.

however, im still pissed about XBone so i dont think i'll be getting the game

im loving the what they did with the theme song of the game and the game also looks sick... but again f*** you XBone.

2gen wrote: »

im loving the what they did with the theme song of the game and the game also looks sick... but again f*** you XBone.

Nice to see that Jago still has a lot of his old moves. Even some of the links are the same as they were in the original.

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Might have known.

DO WANT: My childhood back in the form of KI.

DO NOT WANT: This ****ty console.

That's pretty much my take on it too. I'd be comping at the bit to play this if it wasn't an XboxOne exclusive.

BTW it was always gonna be an Xbox exclusive -- I mean, Microsoft did buy Rare outright...

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

BTW it was always gonna be an Xbox exclusive -- I mean, Microsoft did buy Rare outright...

That's certainly my understanding of it.

Rob2D wrote: »

At least they're finally getting Rare to make something with a bit of imagination again.

Eh?

This is a sequel/remake -- the very anti-thesis of something new & imaginative.

Imaginative would be something like Viva Pinata :pac:

Rob2D wrote: »

At least they're finally getting Rare to make something with a bit of imagination again.

This is being made by Double Helix. I dunno how much input Rare have into the game.
http://www.doublehelixgames.com/

Annoying, but if the characters are reasonably priced, then it could work out cheaper than a full release.

If it's €5 per character with any more than ten characters then it'll be very bad.

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

The game comes with 1 character... all the rest are paid for add-ons. I don't even...

i have no words... i'm so F***ING PISSED AT MS :mad:

So they're giving you the core game with the main character for free.

It'll likely have a lot of single player content, much like MK9 and the extra characters will be paid DLC.

No prices yet, but they could end up being quite affordable. They could equally end up being quite expensive. As it stands we don't know, so best to just wait and see.

Both previous versions of KI were terrible for competitive play and were only really fun when trying to break the game as much as possible, so it's not as if there's this pedigree behind it like with the Street Fighter series.

I'd play it

Howeverm, I'd rather be run over then purchase an Xbone atm

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

Both games had 11 characters. KI2 dropped 4 original chars and added 4 new ones.

Like I said, I haven't played much of the second game (I had maybe two or three goes of it, then went back to the original). Still though, that's a cast of 15 then, and there's a chance of new characters being chucked in too.

Sairus wrote: »

So Double Helix cleared up a bit of the confusion around KI.

From SRK


So this is almost the perfect sort of FTP type thing (more than 1 character would be better, or a rotating character). You can buy the full game if you want, or you can get the free demo and buy individual pieces as you want them.

Except DoA5:Ultimate will give you 4 starter characters and Versus/Arcade/Training mode for free: http://teamninja-studio.com/doa5/ultimate/us/home.html#ftp

So anyway, enough bashing on the silliness game for a bit maybe? Actual discussion! :pac:

After watching some gameplay videos I actually don't hate how it looks to be playing. The visuals themselves are awful, but gameplay doesn't look terrible.

KI is a fairly different fighter in a lot of ways, so here's a primer. I was also talking to one of the Double Helix guys earlier about it and he mentioned some interesting stuff (He also told me it's completely not fun and I should stay away from it :pac: ):

Dashes are slower than walking. Backdashes have about 5f of non-throw invincibility. Saberwulf's forward dash passes through opponents.

Undizzy. A meter under your combo counter will fill up as you combo. Once it fills up, the next non-Super hit you land will cause the opponent to fall down.

Instinct. This works like X-Factor. You build up your Instinct Meter and can then press HP+HK to activate. You can deploy Instinct at any time you're not in the startup, block or whiff of any attack, or are being hit yourself. This means you can deploy it raw, or do an Instinct Cancel mid combo.

Instinct reduces the knockdown meter to 0 and gives character specific boosts:
Jago gets health regen and longer hitstun/blockstun ( this allows him to do infinite blockstrings with supers every other rep while gaining health back)
Sabrewulf gets 25% extra dmg and all attacks do chip.

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KI's got a pretty interesting and very specific combo system. The basic combo system runs like this:
Opener (any Special Move) -> Normal -> Linker (Special Move) -> Normal > Linker > etc until Knockdown Meter is almost full > Ender

An Ender is a specific special move each character has. The ender you actually do varies depending on what you did in your combo.

The Normals you can input are split into two types: Autodoubles and Manuals. You can choose any strength normal after a linker and it'll combo as either an AD or a Manual depending on the timing you input it with.

Autodouble: 2 hits, large window to break, adds lots of damage to your ender and lots of knockdown meter
Manual: basically unreadable for L or M, short window to break, doesn't add as much damage or knockdown meter

Combo Breakers: The opponent can break out of any combo during an Autodouble or a Manual by pressing a Kick+Punch of the same strength as the opponent at the same time. If you successfully break it blows the opponent back. If you guess the wrong strength you can't do another breaker for 3 seconds.

Ultra Combos: These are like Blazblue's Astral Finishes. You can only do them on the final round when the opponent is on low health and they just kill the opponent in a massive, scripted, unbreakable combo.
If you want to be really obnoxious you can do something like this: Ultra, Instinct cancel, full new combo plus 2 supers because the Ultra gives you meter, then another Ultra and juggles afterward including 2 more supers. You can basically combo the opponent for 30-60 seconds after they're dead.

No Mercy's, Humiliations, etc are not in the game.

Nice to see that they've still got the SF-style control system. They had different names on them way back when (the light was "quick", I believe) but the same gig really. The specials would also vary depending on the button's strength. Stronger the attack button, the further the charge move would travel, or the faster the fireball would be.

Also, dashes are slower than walking?

2gen wrote: »

i wouldn't normally post videos from Max but this vid contains the highest level of the new KI i've seen so far. good stuff.

This game looks shakier than Vanilla SF4 :rolleyes:

deathrider wrote: »

I'd like to see someone really ricockulous like Fulgore or Spinal, but I'd imagine it'll be Chief Thunder, TJ. Combo, or Orchid.

Not sure what the new devs opinions are on Chief Thunder, Riptor and Cinder, since those three were dropped between KI and KI2.

Since this all happened before the days of the internet, I never really knew why.

I want to see Fulgore back. He was always my favourite thinly veiled Predator rip-off, and it was the sound of his fatality reverberating across the arcade that drew me to the machine.



Yeah!

deathrider wrote: »

I'd rather see Riptor and Cinder return than those boring caveman-style characters from the second game.

This x 1000.

The new characters in KI2 were dull as hell.