Galway Bay Breweries

adamski8 · 18-04-2014 2:22pm

Id really like to drop by tonight and have some after a hard days work but of course im forbidden.

Any news on this peanut butter stout? I like the sound of that.

my friend · 18-04-2014 2:37pm

aficionado wrote: »

Of Foam and Fury now rated No1 beer in Ireland on ratemybeer.com
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/country/ireland/100/

That's a little bit of a L'oreal statistic...

The average of 22 votes

drumswan · 18-04-2014 2:54pm

They use a Baynesian formula for the voting, similar to IMDB

Ravelleman · 18-04-2014 4:21pm

adamski8 wrote: »

Any news on this peanut butter stout? I like the sound of that.

The Rogue Voodoo Donut ale, which has a strong peanut butter element, was very artificial in taste. Hopefully this stout will be a better effort.

adamski8 · 18-04-2014 4:49pm

Ravelleman wrote: »

The Rogue Voodoo Donut ale, which has a strong peanut butter element, was very artificial in taste. Hopefully this stout will be a better effort.

Didnt try it but i imagine a stout lends itself better to peanut tastes

Tom Ghostwood · 21-04-2014 7:29pm

adamski8 wrote: »

Any news on this peanut butter stout? I like the sound of that.

Ive had a taste from the conditioning tank. It leaves a salty coating on your mouth that doesnt hit for a bit after swallowing. That might change with time & carbonation though. Ive never had a peanut butter stout so am intrigued by it.

my friend wrote: »

That's a little bit of a L'oreal statistic...
The average of 22 votes

Ratebeer scoring is a science. Great interview with the guys behind it & how they process the data & scores in the link below if yer interested in that kinda thing. http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/1053

symbolic · 22-04-2014 6:07pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Brewdog beers in general are expensive in keg. Either brewdog or four corners are the cause of that.

Seaneh wrote: »

That would be something to take up with either McCambridges or Noreast, that's outrageous over charging! Like I said, €5.70 is the normal price in most offies

I agree with these points. Brewdog are expensive and some businesses do over charge. Why can the same not be uttered about GBB bars? Without the response, no one is forcing you to go there. I enjoy going to GBB bars because they are nice pubs, great staff in the one I frequent and best selection of beers. I don't really see direct alternatives. I often do think, this beer hobby of mine is getting expensive and often wonder, am I being ripped off a little? But I don't know the answer to that. Lately I tend to pop into JW Sweetmans a bit more often for a more affordable Irish craft beer.

I think I pay the extra in gbb because I love the pub/selection and especially the "oohh what's new on tap today" which I won't get as much in Sweetmans... . Not sure it equates to be ripped off though... Maybe using their unique selling point to charge a premium? Business I spose.

Saruman · 23-04-2014 10:43am

Tom Ghostwood wrote: »

Ive had a taste from the conditioning tank. It leaves a salty coating on your mouth that doesnt hit for a bit after swallowing. That might change with time & carbonation though. Ive never had a peanut butter stout so am intrigued by it.

Ratebeer scoring is a science. Great interview with the guys behind it & how they process the data & scores in the link below if yer interested in that kinda thing. http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/1053

I judged a peanut butter and raspberry stout during the NHC competition earlier this year. It smelled like a peanut better and jelly sandwich and tasted like a Reese's peanut butter cup.

Interesting but I'm not sure how much I could drink of it. As a one off batch it will be fun though.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 10:46am

Saruman wrote: »

I judged a peanut butter and raspberry stout during the NHC competition earlier this year. It smelled like a peanut better and jelly sandwich and tasted like a Reese's peanut butter cup.

Interesting but I'm not sure how much I could drink of it. As a one off batch it will be fun though.

I think those types of beers are to the beer world what dessert wines are to the wine world.

the beer revolu · 23-04-2014 11:26am

BaZmO* wrote: »

I think those types of beers are to the beer world what dessert wines are to the wine world.

You haven't drunk enough dessert wine.
Hugely unfair to compare something as complex and wonderful as a good Tokaji, an Eiswein or a Black Muscat to gimmicky marshmallow or peanut butter beer.
I don't have a sweet tooth but the occasional drop of very good dessert wine is a thing to behold. They can age extremely well too.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 11:28am

the beer revolu wrote: »

You haven't drunk enough dessert wine.
Hugely unfair to compare something as complex and wonderful as a good Tokaji, an Eiswein or a Black Muscat to gimmicky marshmallow or peanut butter beer.
I don't have a sweet tooth but the occasional drop of very good dessert wine is a thing to behold. They can age extremely well too.

I meant that they were to be had at the end of a meal rather than quaffed alone.

drumswan · 23-04-2014 11:46am

There are plenty of sweet beers which are very good and well matched with a sweet dessert.

alastair · 23-04-2014 11:50am

the beer revolu wrote: »

... gimmicky marshmallow or peanut butter beer.

All derivations of beer ingredients were presumably 'gimmicky' at some point. I wouldn't write off an ingredient just because it's unusual. Peanut butter stout might well be horrible, but I'd like to try it before forming a judgement.

my friend · 23-04-2014 6:01pm

Tom Ghostwood wrote: »

Ive had a taste from the conditioning tank. It leaves a salty coating on your mouth that doesnt hit for a bit after swallowing. That might change with time & carbonation though. Ive never had a peanut butter stout so am intrigued by it.

Ratebeer scoring is a science. Great interview with the guys behind it & how they process the data & scores in the link below if yer interested in that kinda thing. http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/1053

Notwithstanding the fact is, it's based on a mere 22 opinions

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 6:05pm

my friend wrote: »

Notwithstanding the fact is, it's based on a mere 22 opinions

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who don't agree with it beingvthe best beer in production in Ireland.

alastair · 23-04-2014 7:04pm

Seaneh wrote: »

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who don't agree with it beingvthe best beer in production in Ireland.

I don't like it. But then I'm not fond over over-hopped beers in general.

Porterhouse Celebration Stout - now that I can get behind.

drumswan · 23-04-2014 7:07pm

my friend wrote: »

Notwithstanding the fact is, it's based on a mere 22 opinions

And? There are 9 beers in the top 20 with fewer ratings, its been explained how the ratings work. It was also voted Beer of the Year by Beoir.

my friend · 23-04-2014 7:09pm

Seaneh wrote: »

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who don't agree with it beingvthe best beer in production in Ireland.

You can't proclaim fact with that which is subjective.

If you enjoy it, drink it. Your hyperbole is amusing though.

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 7:14pm

my friend wrote: »

You can't proclaim fact with that which is subjective.

If you enjoy it, drink it. Your hyperbole is amusing though.

If enough people proclaim it, it stops being subjective and starts to become fact.

Beoir beer of the year as voted by an overwhelming majority. Almost all the beer fans I've talked to call it the best Irish beer they have had. I'd find it hard to disagree with them.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 7:19pm

Seaneh wrote: »

If enough people proclaim it, it stops being subjective and starts to become fact.

Really? A lot of people believe in Creationism.

quadrifoglio verde · 23-04-2014 7:21pm

my friend wrote: »

You can't proclaim fact with that which is subjective.

If you enjoy it, drink it. Your hyperbole is amusing though.

Ive yet to meet anyone who enjoys craft beers, who hasn't thought it was feckin amazing, save for the few who are only new to trying different beers and don't really like hoppy beers yet.
That was me this time last year when I thought all the people on here going on about how nice Sierra Nevada Pale Ale was were crazy

It is a cracking good beer.

the beer revolu · 23-04-2014 7:36pm

Seaneh wrote: »

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who don't agree with it beingvthe best beer in production in Ireland.

I like it a lot but I think 8° Full Irish gives it a run for its money and not so many people have tasted that yet.

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 9:25pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

I like it a lot but I think 8° Full Irish gives it a run for its money and not so many people have tasted that yet.

Can't judge a beer I haven't tasted but general consciousness is still that OFAF is the best beer in production in Ireland abd probably the best beer the island has produced thus far. I'd argue that PH's barrel aged celebration probably gives it a run for it's money in the latter stakes though.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 9:37pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Can't judge a beer I haven't tasted but general consciousness is still that OFAF is the best beer in production in Ireland abd probably the best beer the island has produced thus far. I'd argue that PH's barrel aged celebration probably gives it a run for it's money in the latter stakes though.

I'd say if you took a vote I reckon Guinness would win hands down. Although maybe Heineken would be in with a shout, but that'd probably be discounted because of its lack of "Irishness"

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 9:42pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd say if you took a vote I reckon Guinness would win hands down. Although maybe Heineken would be in with a shout, but that'd probably be discounted because of its lack of "Irishness"

If you took a vote McDonald's would probably win best burger in Ireland by sheer numbers.

If you take a vote of people who actually give a toss about food McDonald's wouldn't be in the too 20.

Guinness is the McDonald's of beer. Just because a lot of people drink it doesn't mean we should take their opinions seriously. People who know about or care about beer all seem to be of the opinion that OFAF is an exceptional beer.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 9:45pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Just because a lot of people drink it doesn't mean we should take their opinions seriously.

And just because some people declare something to be the case doesn't mean we have to take it as Gospel.

alastair · 23-04-2014 9:53pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

Ive yet to meet anyone who enjoys craft beers, who hasn't thought it was feckin amazing, save for the few who are only new to trying different beers and don't really like hoppy beers yet.

That's more than a tad patronising. It's entirely possible to enjoy craft beers, and even 'hoppy craft beers', and not subscribe to the 'stack those hops high' school of brewing. Not everyone likes the same things. Personally, I suspect that overly hopped beers are just riding a crest of a fashion, and craft brewing will move on to various other considerations in time.

I don't think it's feckin amazing, and I'm not new to tasting beers - of the craft variety or otherwise. I doubt I'll develop a taste for overly-hopped beers, but then, why the expectation that everyone should?

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 9:56pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

And just because some people declare something to be the case doesn't mean we have to take it as Gospel.

If people with a knowledge of an issue have a general consensus, they are generally right.

Are you actually trying to argue that OFAF isn't the best beer produced in Ireland are you just being a contrarian? Because I strongly suggest it's the latter, seeing as you haven't offered anything as an alternative.

alastair · 23-04-2014 10:00pm

Seaneh wrote: »

If people with a knowledge of an issue have a general consensus, they are generally right.

Or engaged in groupthink.

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 10:01pm

alastair wrote: »

That's more than a tad patronising. It's entirely possible to enjoy craft beers, and even 'hoppy craft beers', and not subscribe to the 'stack those hops high' school of brewing. Not everyone likes the same things. Personally, I suspect that overly hopped beers are just riding a crest of a fashion, and craft brewing will move on to various other considerations in time.

I don't think it's feckin amazing, and I'm not new to tasting beers - of the craft variety or otherwise. I doubt I'll develop a taste for overly-hopped beers, but then, why the expectation that everyone should?

Well I don't like "overly hopped" beers either.

I think brewdogs Jackhammer tastes like wax and have no love for sierra Nevada's hoptimum indeed I have often voiced my disdain for Galway Bay's Voyager because I found it horribly over hopped.

I think OFAF is brilliantly balanced, it's massively hopped but it's not massively bitter because it has a huge malt backbone and it used hops that give floral and fruit notes rather than supper bitter tastes.

alastair · 23-04-2014 10:09pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Well I don't like "overly hopped" beers either.

I think brewdigs Jackhammer tastes like wax and have voice for sierra Nevada's hoptimum indeed I have often voiced my disdain for Galway Bay's Voyager because I found it horribly over hopped.

I think OFAF is brilliantly balanced, it's massively hopped but it's not massively bitter because it has a huge malt backbone and it used hops that give floral and fruit notes rather than supper bitter tastes.

It derives it's flavours (floral and fruit as you say) from hops - it's the hops that are massively to the fore. I never said it was too bitter - It's just over-hopped for my taste. No amount of representations for the greatness of the drink is going to change my mind - I heard the hype before drinking the stuff, and when I did drink it, I simply didn't enjoy it. No biggie, there's a lot of beers that I don't like, but I'm not going to be told I'm 'wrong' in not sharing other's enthusiasm for the beer.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 10:09pm

Seaneh wrote: »

I think OFAF is brilliantly balanced

That's my only problem with it, I actually don't think it's balanced. Personally I think Devils Halfacre is a better beer and generally prefer "hoppier" beers.

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 10:12pm

alastair wrote: »

It derives it's flavours (floral and fruit as you say) from hops - it's the hops that are massively to the fore. I never said it was too bitter - It's just over-hopped for my taste. No amount of representations for the greatness of the drink is going to change my mind - I heard the hype before drinking the stuff, and when I did drink it, I simply didn't enjoy it. No biggie, there's a lot of beers that I don't like, but I'm not going to be told I'm 'wrong' in not sharing other's enthusiasm for the beer.

Not every beer is for every pallet. I like beer but I have yet to try a lambic that I actually liked, I tend to hate wheat based beers and I despise pale lagers and find English bitters insanely boring. I'd never say they aren't good beers, I just don't like them.

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 10:17pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's my only problem with it, I actually don't think it's balanced. Personally I think Devils Halfacre is a better beer and generally prefer "hoppier" beers.

So thats a beer which is no longer in production and I find extremely confused as to whatvit actually is or is trying so be, and I also find extremely unbalanced in that it's sickly sweet.

alastair · 23-04-2014 10:19pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Not every beer is for every pallet. I like beer but I have yet to try a lambic that I actually liked, I tend to hate wheat based beers and I despise pale lagers and find English bitters insanely boring. I'd never say they aren't good beers, I just don't like them.

I'm not saying OFAF is a bad beer. I'm just disputing this 'it's the best Irish craft beer - end of' business. It's all subjective (and the role that fashion/fads play in what's promoted shouldn't be ignored).

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 10:24pm

Seaneh wrote: »

So thats a beer which is no longer in production

So that's the criteria of it now, that it has to be in production as we chat?

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 10:25pm

alastair wrote: »

I'm not saying OFAF is a bad beer. I'm just disputing this 'it's the best Irish craft beer - end of' business. It's all subjective (and the role that fashion/fads play in what's promoted shouldn't be ignored).

In a nutshell!

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 10:26pm

alastair wrote: »

I'm not saying OFAF is a bad beer. I'm just disputing this 'it's the best Irish craft beer - end of' business. It's all subjective (and the role that fashion/fads play in what's promoted shouldn't be ignored).

I didn't say it was end of story. I've also said I think PH's Kilbegin aged Celebration gives it a rub for it's money as " teh bestest Evah" and my preference could swing either way depending on the day or my mood (I'm bibeerual).

Any Irish brewery could release a beer st any time that surpasses it but right not the vast majority or beer geeks/snobs/lovers/hipsters/**** in Ireland, myself included, seem to rate OFAF as being the kitties titties, so I find it hard to find a few voices of descent on a message board as anything other than that.

Who knows, maybe I'll try Eight Degrees new ipa and jizz my pants.

BaZmO* · 23-04-2014 10:27pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Who knows, maybe I'll try Eight Degrees new ipa and jizz my pants.

Nah, I reckon it'll be the next Galway Bay beer.

my friend · 23-04-2014 10:28pm

The actual vested interests of GBB are possibly disavowing their fanboy, it's getting quite surreal in here!

Seaneh · 23-04-2014 10:31pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

Nah, I reckon it'll be the next Galway Bay beer.

I don't hold much hope for a peanut stout or a Clementine wheat beer tbh.

drumswan · 24-04-2014 11:25am

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd say if you took a vote I reckon Guinness would win hands down. Although maybe Heineken would be in with a shout, but that'd probably be discounted because of its lack of "Irishness"

There has been a vote - on ratebeer. And on Beoir. Guinness draught didnt win either.

drumswan · 24-04-2014 11:27am

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's my only problem with it, I actually don't think it's balanced. Personally I think Devils Halfacre is a better beer and generally prefer "hoppier" beers.

It has a massive malt backbone to carry the big hops...

BaZmO* · 24-04-2014 11:30am

drumswan wrote: »

There has been a vote - on ratebeer. And on Beoir. Guinness draught didnt win either.

I think you're missing the point.

drumswan wrote: »

It has a massive malt backbone to carry the big hops...

What has?

drumswan · 24-04-2014 1:45pm

What has?

OFAF

BaZmO* · 24-04-2014 2:45pm

drumswan wrote: »

OFAF

But just because it "has a massive malt backbone to carry the big hops" doesn't mean that it's balanced.

drumswan · 24-04-2014 2:47pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

But just because it "has a massive malt backbone to carry the big hops" doesn't mean that it's balanced.

What do you mean? What do you understand by balance in a beer?

Lucena · 24-04-2014 3:01pm

Hope this question is in the right place.

Is there any (easy) way of finding out where GBB beers are available? I have some friends coming out to visit (I don’t live in Ireland) next week, and it’d be lovely if they could pick up a few bottles on the way over!

irish_goat · 24-04-2014 3:06pm

Lucena wrote: »

Hope this question is in the right place.

Is there any (easy) way of finding out where GBB beers are available? I have some friends coming out to visit (I don’t live in Ireland) next week, and it’d be lovely if they could pick up a few bottles on the way over!

Where are they visiting?

drumswan · 24-04-2014 3:08pm

Lucena wrote: »

Hope this question is in the right place.

Is there any (easy) way of finding out where GBB beers are available? I have some friends coming out to visit (I don’t live in Ireland) next week, and it’d be lovely if they could pick up a few bottles on the way over!

The full range is available online from Drinkstore, nationwide delivery from €6.

Untappd has OFAF as #1 now too.

https://untappd.com/beer/top_rated?country_id=52

Galway Bay Breweries

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