Ray D'Arcy asks MD of Radio to remove Nuacht - MOD NOTE #76

Muff Richardson · 30-04-2015 9:30am

hotmail.com wrote: »

The Gael people will get outraged over a short news bulletin that no one listens to being discontinued.

Gael people? Without being too presumptuous, you are most likely a Gael (person).

Skid X · 30-04-2015 9:35am

If there had been no mention of Darcy and the thread had been called "Should the Nuacht be scrapped from Radio 1 ?", I have no doubt that some posters would have expressed a different opinion.

As soon as his name is mentioned, there are people here who think "whatever the question is, Ray Darcy's opinion must be wrong because I don't like him and his huge salary"

gobo99 · 30-04-2015 9:35am

Clip of the audio here:
http://tuairisc.ie/ridiculous-go-gcaithfi-stop-a-chur-le-hagallamh-ar-mhaithe-le-nuacht-a-deir-ray-darcy/

draiochtanois · 30-04-2015 9:43am

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bbability · 30-04-2015 9:44am

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ThisRegard · 30-04-2015 9:54am

Skid X wrote: »

If there had been no mention of Darcy and the thread had been called "Should the Nuacht be scrapped from Radio 1 ?", I have no doubt that some posters would have expressed a different opinion.

As soon as his name is mentioned, there are people here who think "whatever the question is, Ray Darcy's opinion must be wrong because I don't like him and his huge salary"

I don't think so as it's never been raised as a big issue until now.

Harry Angstrom · 30-04-2015 9:59am

bbability wrote: »

This isn't about Ray Darcy and I'm not his biggest fan in the world but he's raised a very good point (if he has).
It's about choice. I don't want to hear the Irish Speaking news on a predominantly English speaking channel. They have a national reach on FM and a worldwide reach on many platforms so the need for the Irish News to go out on RTE 1 or RTE 2 has past its sell by date. Sure why not throw in the Polish News straight after the Irish News if that's the case. There would probably be more tuned into that. The Irish speaking communityhave there own very heavily subsidised radio channel. Fair is Fair.

Surely it's everything to do with Ray D'Arcy? He started the show with his usual inane stream of consciousness and half-arsed opinions. He then had a pointless interview with some lad who's never missed a day of school. It was inevitable that the interview with Una Mullally would run into the nuacht at 3.30. Why didn't he start the interview with Una Mullally at the top of the programme, or if that wasn't possible why not start the interview with her at 3.32 after the nuacht? It's a matter of common sense and just a little bit of forward planning. Instead, D'Arcy throws his toys out of the pram and has a hissy fit live on air. It was very unprofessional, to say the least.

swampy353 · 30-04-2015 10:38am

This situation exemplifies everything that is wrong with RD. He is (while an experienced broadcaster) only 3 months into a new job. Why should someone walk in the door and expect everyone else to change the way they do things because they cant manage their show properly.
What makes it even more cringey, is the fact he didnt have the basic professionalism to apologise to Una on air, saying we have to take a break for Nuacht and then off air vent. An interview like that is always going to over run because its a well known name and an emotional topic.
After listening to today fm post d'arcy, you can hear that its a far more cohesive station with good linking between shows. I can only assume that RD was the cause of the tension

Muff Richardson · 30-04-2015 10:51am

As mentioned previously, the bigger issue is that it is fairly irrelevant of what was to come on at 3:30 during his broadcast. He is paid a handsome sum of money in which he should be able to organise his interviews and stick to the schedule. The fact that he can not even get the name of the presenter he is handing over to correctly speaks volumes of his attitude, work ethic and the respect he has for his colleagues. "It's nobody's fault and everybody's fault"...ehhh what? It's nobody's fault but yours Ray, you're the only one who messed up.

God knows what happened to that happy go lucky, pleasant presenter that was on The Den all those moons ago.

evilivor · 30-04-2015 10:56am

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

he mistimed a serious interview and got audibly angry when he had to cut to the nuacht. I believe the cailin nuacht seemed a little peeved with him over it.

Is that not just down to him being grumpy and not the fault of Nuacht?

Perhaps he needs more producers.

BPKS · 30-04-2015 11:04am

Muff Richardson wrote: »

As mentioned previously, the bigger issue is that it is fairly irrelevant of what was to come on at 3:30 during his broadcast. He is paid a handsome sum of money in which he should be able to organise his interviews and stick to the schedule. The fact that he can not even get the name of the presenter he is handing over to correctly speaks volumes of his attitude, work ethic and the respect he has for his colleagues. "It's nobody's fault and everybody's fault"...ehhh what? It's nobody's fault but yours Ray, you're the only one who messed up.

God knows what happened to that happy go lucky, pleasant presenter that was on The Den all those moons ago.

Could be the lack of sugar?

I just listened to the clip in the interview linked in one of the posts above.

So am I correct in saying what happened is:

Ray was interviewing a guest who has cancer.

Interview had to be interrupted go to the news at 3.30.

Because the news was in Irish, D'arcy throws his toys out of the pram.

As others have pointed out, why couldn't they have allocated enough time to the interview in the first place and maybe remove another piece or have it after the news?

And if it was the 4 o clock news (in English) would he have thrown such a hissy fit? I'd say Ray sees the Irish language as a relic of old Catholic Ireland (where everybody drank load of booze, smoked loads, drove too fast, drove while drunk, had sugar in their tea, drank 7 Up, didn't run, didn't cycle, didn't drink wine and didn't own a Rachel Allen cook book) and is just venting because of that.

draiochtanois · 30-04-2015 11:24am

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Tommy Kelly · 30-04-2015 11:29am

jimmyw wrote: »

Yeah I was listening to the podcast of the piece with Una Mullally and I got the impression that he was peed off with having to go to it in the middle of a serious interview.

I doubt that was the case as it never bothered him when he was on Today FM and hardly a day went by when he didn't cut short an interview because of an ad break or the news.

Not to sure how many times I heard him saying how he had to go to the news or have an ad break less than a minute into an interview.

I wouldn't be in favor of his demands anyways as for me listening to the Nuacht is the most entertaining part of his show.

Keep the Nuacht and bring back Mooney.

Bacachb2 · 30-04-2015 2:06pm

somesoldiers wrote: »

yum, yum

Babhla uachtair or whatever you're having yourself!

somesoldiers · 30-04-2015 3:32pm

Interview- finish interview, nuacht, next interview....

RayM · 30-04-2015 4:06pm

I'm no fan of Irish being rammed down people's throats, but I kind of like the Nuacht. It's only on for a minute or two, and it's a nice little reminder that I know more Irish than I thought I did. There should probably be some kind of compromise - have it immediately before or after the news on the hour instead, maybe. Or just move it to 4:30, immediately after the show.

Whatever about Ray D'Arcy, they should definitely remove it from Ronan Collins' show - the most interrupted hour in Irish radio. He'd be well within his rights to be annoyed about all the interruptions (Angelus, Nuacht, Liveline promo, Sea Area forecast), but he always sounds very cheerful about it.

draiochtanois · 30-04-2015 4:09pm

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RayM · 30-04-2015 4:16pm

draiochtanois wrote: »

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He seems to really enjoy his show. Always happy and enthusiastic. Plays the odd decent tune too. When his show comes on after Sean O'Rourke, I rarely find myself rushing to switch over.

Ray D'Arcy, on the other hand, usually sounds like he's being forced to present the show against his will.

johnire · 30-04-2015 10:17pm

I've just listened to this and I have to say that was the most ignorant and rude thing I've ever heard. Totally uncalled for. Who does this guy think he is? Someone really needs to have a chat with him and put a bit of manners on him.

gobo99 wrote: »

Clip of the audio here:
http://tuairisc.ie/ridiculous-go-gcaithfi-stop-a-chur-le-hagallamh-ar-mhaithe-le-nuacht-a-deir-ray-darcy/

colinod0806 · 30-04-2015 11:52pm

johnire wrote: »

I've just listened to this and I have to say that was the most ignorant and rude thing I've ever heard. Totally uncalled for. Who does this guy think he is? Someone really needs to have a chat with him and put a bit of manners on him.

Jesus Christ. I can't stand Ray D'arcy but I at least thought he had some semblance of professionalism. I guess I was wrong.

Robert McGrath · 30-04-2015 11:57pm

gobo99 wrote: »

Clip of the audio here:
http://tuairisc.ie/ridiculous-go-gcaithfi-stop-a-chur-le-hagallamh-ar-mhaithe-le-nuacht-a-deir-ray-darcy/

There's a pretty funny line in the comments below that article:

"Is mise a rinne an BBC!"

01-05-2015 12:04am

colinod0806 wrote: »

Jesus Christ. I can't stand Ray D'arcy but I at least thought he had some semblance of professionalism. I guess I was wrong.

He has a HUGE opinion of himself
I cannot listen to him at all, he sounds so hesitant, no flow at all to him

I honestly cannot see him lasting in that slot

terryduff12 · 01-05-2015 1:44am

Has Ray not got his passport yet, Kenny has been the Taoiseach a few years wasn't he supposed to leave the country if Kenny got into power. Used to like him for few years when he first started on the radio but now he just likes to hear himself.

CountyHurler · 01-05-2015 9:34am

colinod0806 wrote: »

Jesus Christ. I can't stand Ray D'arcy but I at least thought he had some semblance of professionalism. I guess I was wrong.

I was listening that day but I missed that bit.. Fairly shocking from D'Arcy... Complaining to one of his guests about the how his employer runs the station... No offence to Una Mullaly, but it wasnt the sort of interview that couldnt be put on hold for a few minutes and then picked up again... His attitude, about everything, really stinks. He is simply not suited to a light entertainment afternoon show...

bbability · 01-05-2015 9:42am

Folks this is a discussion thread about Nuacht. Please continue the Ray Darcy discussion on the Ray Darcy Thread.
Changing title of thread to avoid confusion.

twinklerunner · 01-05-2015 10:11am

bbability wrote: »

Folks this is a discussion thread about Nuacht. Please continue the Ray Darcy discussion on the Ray Darcy Thread.
Changing title of thread to avoid confusion.

Surely it's about Nuacht being broadcast at 3.30pm, not its removal?
It would make more sense to air it after the news at 3 or 4 .. or alternatively at 4.30.

Hitchens · 01-05-2015 10:27am

.....but if it's done away with we'll never hear Robert Hall saying ...."and now we break for Noo-ock" :P

fernrock · 01-05-2015 3:13pm

I would say drop all Irish language progs from RTE 1&2 but, RTE are probably
getting a handout from the Irish language lobby or some Govt dept to "promote the language" .

So somebody will have to fill the gap to contribute to Mr D'Arcy's pay cheque.

More than likely us taxpayers !!!

jimmyw · 01-05-2015 9:32pm

Look, its not brain surgery.Its the producer(s) that are at fault IMO.Finish the first guest or the usual s**** before 3.30, and then dont start the next interview until after the Nuacht, simples.

Personally I don't see the point of it as its over on RnaG.But he should not have bad mouthed the Nuacht on air, but mentioned it afterwards.

sligojoek · 01-05-2015 11:29pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes. Whether he likes the Nuacht or not he knew full well it was coming up. I missed this but tried to get it o RTE player but it was snipped until Ray came back on after the Nuacht. I was very drunk at the time but I think there was only 8-10 mins before 3.30 and about 15mins after. That was never going to be an 8 -10 min interview. As was said by other people, it should have started at 3.05 or 3.35.

Ironically, I was in my garden shed listening to An Nuacht when I heard of Gerry Ryan's death. It's been more than 35 years since I last learnt Irish at school but I still knew Gerry Ryan was dead

Bacachb2 · 02-05-2015 3:53pm

jimmyw wrote: »

Look, its not brain surgery.Its the producer(s) that are at fault IMO.Finish the first guest or the usual s**** before 3.30, and then dont start the next interview until after the Nuacht, simples.

Personally I don't see the point of it as its over on RnaG.But he should not have bad mouthed the Nuacht on air, but mentioned it afterwards.

I think Ray has a problem with his personal preferences and his tendency to transmit the same into dogma As for " seeing the point of it" as its over on Rna G, well at that time its not and this also begs the question "what is the point of News at anytime on any channel"? "Sure can't ye hear the same stuff later or get it on Sky?"

Bacachb2 · 02-05-2015 4:32pm

Rays problem is expressing his personal preferences and airing them as dogma As for"the point" of anything broadcast on radio especially news , " sure can't you get the same information on Sky or any Player?"

jimmyw · 02-05-2015 9:02pm

Bacachb2 wrote: »

I think Ray has a problem with his personal preferences and his tendency to transmit the same into dogma As for " seeing the point of it" as its over on Rna G, well at that time its not and this also begs the question "what is the point of News at anytime on any channel"? "Sure can't ye hear the same stuff later or get it on Sky?"

So the news must be transmitted at that time?....

Even if the news was in English, I personally wouldn't necessarily want to listen to news at that time, at the top of the hour is good enough for me, but it wouldn't bother me.Others may have a different view.

Having an Irish language(or the Angelus for that matter) news bulletin on seems pointless on a predominantly English speaking station but thats MY view.

So it begs the question, should there be an English speaking news bulletin on RnaG??

But thats not the point.A presenter bitching about it is totally unprofessional and he displayed it in a similar way on Friday with the scolding of Will (whatever that was all about ?)

Goldengirl · 03-05-2015 12:51pm

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P. Breathnach · 03-05-2015 1:10pm

There is a relatively small amount of Irish used on RTÉ1, and I like that - both that it is there and that there is not too much of it. To my mind, it normalises Irish a bit, without making a big deal of it. I think it is good that broadcasters like Marian Richardson and Cathal Mac Coille sign off in Irish, and I think "good on you" when Ronan Collins uses a few words of Irish to link into the nuacht.

Ray was wrong to make an issue on air of station policy; that's not his prerogative. But, because he brought in his own production team, it is his responsibility that the timing of his programme content did not fit the scheduling framework he was given.

sligojoek · 03-05-2015 1:18pm

He must be coming round a bit. He said "Go raibh maith agat a Chait" after An Nuacht on Friday

cbreeze · 03-05-2015 1:50pm

John Joe Jones wrote: »

In one of the papers today that Ray D'Arcy has written to Jim Jennings demanding that Nuacht be removed from the 3.30 slot, Nuacht has been broadcast at 3.30pm on RTE Radio 1 for decades, Val Joyce, Donncha O'Dulaing, Ronan Collins.John Creedon and Derek Mooney never had a problem with it while they hosted the R1 afternoon show.

Good idea. All Nuacht programmes should be removed from RTE Radio 1. There is a perfectly good Irish language radio station which is specially for this minority interest group

P. Breathnach · 03-05-2015 4:19pm

cbreeze wrote: »

Good idea. All Nuacht programmes should be removed from RTE Radio 1. There is a perfectly good Irish language radio station which is specially for this minority interest group

We do like to emerge from the ghetto to take the occasional walk in the park.

Expunge · 04-05-2015 12:49pm

P. Breathnach wrote: »

We do like to emerge from the ghetto to take the occasional walk in the park.

An almost eight million Euro per annum ghetto to run, according to the RTE Annual Report, 2013. (Which is fine by me, by the way)

Zxclnic · 04-05-2015 4:45pm

P. Breathnach wrote: »

We do like to emerge from the ghetto to take the occasional walk in the park.

Unfortunately for most people, including myself, understanding the Irish language was never 'a walk in the park'.

end of the road · 05-05-2015 8:41pm

cbreeze wrote: »

Good idea. All Nuacht programmes should be removed from RTE Radio 1. There is a perfectly good Irish language radio station which is specially for this minority interest group

nonsense. it should stay. its our national and native language and it has a right to be there on the main stations of the national broadcaster. if you don't like it turn off for the couple of minutes its on

John Joe Jones · 08-09-2015 5:13pm

Looks like Ray has got his way

twinklerunner · 08-09-2015 5:21pm

John Joe Jones wrote: »

Looks like Ray has got his way

It has just moved from 3.30 to 4pm.
After the 3pm news, the reader said that the next news in English on this channel is at 5pm

Csalem · 08-09-2015 5:26pm

I thought I was going mad today because I was half listening to the show and I thought Nuacht hadn't happened, but when I looked at clock it was 15:40. Didn't think he would be that late with it and I must have missed it. Glad to know I am not totally mad and it has only moved.

bbability · 08-09-2015 6:06pm

Well fair play to him. What an absolute waste of three minutes. Ray Darcy has moved up a notch in my estimation.

Muff Richardson · 08-09-2015 9:13pm

bbability wrote: »

Well fair play to him. What an absolute waste of three minutes. Ray Darcy has moved up a notch in my estimation.

Personally I'd find the other 87 minutes on both sides of that three minutes to be the real waste of time.

There's a fairly heated Irish language hate thread somewhere around here which keeps popping up about and you might find yourself at home at with some mindless narrow minded venting. If three minutes of news in Irish during an absolute heap of muck show upsets you that much I'd say there's a bit of something else going on with you. Relax, it's three minutes you could've switched off, over or just thought about what you are going to make for dinner that night.

Deedsie · 08-09-2015 10:21pm

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Personally I'd find the other 87 minutes on both sides of that three minutes to be the real waste of time.

There's a fairly heated Irish language hate thread somewhere around here which keeps popping up about and you might find yourself at home at with some mindless narrow minded venting. If three minutes of news in Irish during an absolute heap of muck show upsets you that much I'd say there's a bit of something else going on with you. Relax, it's three minutes you could've switched off, over or just thought about what you are going to make for dinner that night.

Well said... He'll demand they rename the station RTI next.

P. Breathnach · 08-09-2015 11:19pm

bbability wrote: »

Well fair play to him. What an absolute waste of three minutes. Ray Darcy has moved up a notch in my estimation.

And down a notch in mine.

He seems to be perceived in RTÉ as a star, a rating that I certainly would not grant him. And he uses this inflated value to venture into the realm of deciding station policy. That's egotistical, and I think RTÉ management were wrong to give way to him.

mbur · 08-09-2015 11:38pm

bbability wrote: »

Well fair play to him. What an absolute waste of three minutes. Ray Darcy has moved up a notch in my estimation.

finally we agree on something

It's win-win as I see it. Ray gets an hour to do his thing and Nuacht gets a proper on the hour news slot. Everyone should be happy now

Expunge · 09-09-2015 9:28am

From:d'arcy@rte.ie

To:
Mr. Jennings (Director of Radio) and Mr. McGuire (Head of Radio 1)

CC: other useless/frustrated clipboard holding, superannuated 'creatives'

Howye lads,
Is there any chance you could drop or move the aul nooocht at half tree? It's a feckin' nightmare. Meself, the wife and Willy just can't handle it. We've tried everyting - speakin' fast, talkin' slow and nuttin is workin'. We tried a stopwatch but the mouse ate it. I'm tearin' wha's left a me hair out here! It's even affectin' me runs in de mornin'. Even Kate an' Tom can see dere's sometin' wrong.
Some udder producer said maybe I should stop me monologues at de top of de show but ,jaysus, no whey! Everywan luves dem.

C'mon lads. Do de write ting,

Ray, de wife an' manservant Will

Ray D'Arcy asks MD of Radio to remove Nuacht - MOD NOTE #76

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