Baby names!

Rachel_Ann · 27-11-2014 8:39pm

kkcatlou wrote: »

I LOVE that name too, and that's how I would pronounce it. He thinks it's too weird though, and that anyone who sees it would think it's a misspelling of Rosie!

Glad to see some sort of alignment on Aoibhinn! So the question would be would the "wrong" pronunciations annoy me so much that it's off the list!!

I love the name Róise, but like you I'm afraid it will be mistaken for "Rosie". There's a little girl that lives in my area and her name is Róise but her mam spells it 'Rocha'. To me that spelling sounds like "Rosh-a" as in John Rocha the designer.

kkcatlou · 28-11-2014 11:01am

HazelBee wrote: »

How about the pronunciation of Bebhinn. The only Bebhinns I've met have been pronounced Bevin but there seems to be a few different spellings and pronunciations floating about.

I'd pronounce it Bevin too, but maybe Beveen is right, given that Aoibhinn is Eeveen...?! I wouldn't say Bay-veen though unless there was a fada over the e!

Moonbeam · 28-11-2014 11:05am

I love Róis and Róise too.

implausible · 28-11-2014 11:33pm

I love the name Róise, it's gorgeous. Pronunciation in Ulster is like "Rocha" though, as in John Rocha.

Allirog · 30-11-2014 10:48am

I really like the name Aoibhinn too but wouldn't like it pronounced Ay-veen. I know a girl who's pronunciation of her name is 'even' which I though was nice too.

I have my heart set on one girls name and am desperately trying to think of another just incase, but by god it's a hard task

pwurple · 01-12-2014 1:14pm

evifeno wrote: »

Excellent, a múinteoir! May I ask, have you ever taught any Róise's? Or come across the name Róise? (Pron 'Row-sha')

I hear it's popular in Ulster, but not so much down here.... yet!

I don't know where "down here" is, but I'm in Cork, and I know 4 Róise's under the age of 8. And even more Róisíns.

It's fairly popular, don't think you'd have anyone unable to pronounce it around here.

I'm not a fan of either of them tbh, but that's just my own preference. I prefer more globally understood names than the super-localised irish ones. I'd probably go with Rosa or Rose variants.

LegacyUser · 19-12-2014 4:06pm

What does anyone think of Penelope with Poppy as a potential nickname? Penny the obvious nickname but apparently poppy is legit too and we had poppy on our list seperately but not sure it suits a grown up!

Want something very girly, easy to spell and outside top 20. Only 5 weeks left & finding it so difficult! Already have Noah & Sophia and adore their names!

Other possibilities are
Rebecca,
Chloe (both lovely but a bit over popular/done), Amaya (but would get lumped with all the Mias & Mayas),
Elodie (but don't like Elle/Ellie) or
Lola (but DH can't get past the kinks song)
Clara (but most people pronounce it like Lara which I don't like)
Willow (but makes me think of weeping willow!)

princesselm · 19-12-2014 4:09pm

What does anyone think of Penelope with Poppy as a potential nickname? Penny the obvious nickname but apparently poppy is legit too and we had poppy on our list seperately but not sure it suits a grown up!

Want something very girly, easy to spell and outside top 20. Only 5 weeks left & finding it so difficult! Already have Noah & Sophia and adore their names!

Other possibilities are
Rebecca,
Chloe (both lovely but a bit over popular/done), Amaya (but would get lumped with all the Mias & Mayas),
Elodie (but don't like Elle/Ellie) or
Lola (but DH can't get past the kinks song)
Clara (but most people pronounce it like Lara which I don't like)
Willow (but makes me think of weeping willow!)

Frog Song · 19-12-2014 4:15pm

I don't like Penelope but I think Poppy is very cute actually, my husband hates really girly names though so it's out for us. Out of the others I like Clara, very pretty. Elodie is nice too.

seventeen sheep · 19-12-2014 4:50pm

I like Clara - but how else is it pronounced that doesn't rhyme with Lara? Never heard it any other way!

Frog Song · 19-12-2014 5:35pm

seventeen sheep wrote: »

I like Clara - but how else is it pronounced that doesn't rhyme with Lara? Never heard it any other way!

Maybe she means they put more emphasis on the first a. So pronounced claara instead of Clara sounding more like Cara? I get what she means, I'm just not describing it very well!

dori_dormer · 19-12-2014 6:05pm

If you like Chloe, how about Clodagh? I know it's coming back into fashion though. I like penny! My cats nickname is poppy so I personally avoid that lol!
I agree with your hubby on Lola. Everyone will hear the song in their head when you introduce her and its not a good link to have! Rude people may even sing / mention it!

spottybananas · 19-12-2014 7:06pm

I don't know what song you're talking about, I kind of like Lola, it beats Lily, the most common name of the last 3 years!

Xdancer · 19-12-2014 7:23pm

spottybananas wrote: »

I don't know what song you're talking about, I kind of like Lola, it beats Lily, the most common name of the last 3 years!

I love Lola too but it's a very common name in these parts.

spottybananas · 19-12-2014 7:27pm

Xdancer wrote: »

I love Lola too but it's a very common name in these parts.

Suppose it depends where you are, the name we've picked for ours is not common at all here but very popular in the UK from what I can see.

Colser · 19-12-2014 7:31pm

Xdancer wrote: »

I love Lola too but it's a very common name in these parts.

I love it too(both the name and the song:))...not very common here...I only know one little girl called Lola....

princesselm · 19-12-2014 7:38pm

Thanks all.

Yeah the clara I knew as s child pronounced it with kind of a longer sound in the middle, hard to describe in writing. Love it but hate clara like Lara and think I'd get annoyed at people saying it "wrong".

Love Poppy but think it's too cutesy for a grown woman so when I found out it's a nickname for Penelope, which is also on our list it seemed like fate!

Think Penelope and Chloe are the front runners, just wish Chloe was more original!

Xdancer · 19-12-2014 7:47pm

spottybananas wrote: »

Suppose it depends where you are, the name we've picked for ours is not common at all here but very popular in the UK from what I can see.

Our daughter's name is relatively popular in the UK too (the English version even more so) but there isn't another one around here

20-12-2014 4:14am

Babyblab wrote: »

What does anyone think of Penelope with Poppy as a potential nickname? Penny the obvious nickname but apparently poppy is legit too and we had poppy on our list seperately but not sure it suits a grown up!

Want something very girly, easy to spell and outside top 20. Only 5 weeks left & finding it so difficult! Already have Noah & Sophia and adore their names!

Other possibilities are
Rebecca,
Chloe (both lovely but a bit over popular/done), Amaya (but would get lumped with all the Mias & Mayas),
Elodie (but don't like Elle/Ellie) or
Lola (but DH can't get past the kinks song)
Clara (but most people pronounce it like Lara which I don't like)
Willow (but makes me think of weeping willow!)

Why call her Penelope, if you plan on calling her poppy as a nickname?
Seems really silly!
I would never call Penelope, poppy.

Just call her poppy if you like it!

princesselm · 20-12-2014 9:17am

Because, like I said, I love Poppy but don't think its substantial enough a name for a grown woman. I like Penelope too so would call her that and if there came a time that nickname was used we'd use Poppy rather than Penny.

seventeen sheep · 20-12-2014 9:49am

Frog Song wrote: »

Maybe she means they put more emphasis on the first a. So pronounced claara instead of Clara sounding more like Cara? I get what she means, I'm just not describing it very well!

Clara, Lara and Cara all have a similar sound to me, to be honest. I'd pronounce them all rhyming the same, with no difference in emphasis on each syllable.

I have heard Lara pronounced similar to Laura before, which I don't like ... is that what you mean? Pronouncing Clara more like Claura? That sounds horrible alright! But I've never heard anyone saying it that way.

princesselm · 20-12-2014 1:24pm

Cara to me is more like Car-ah.

Lara more like Lah-ra.

Does that make sense?

So would favour the former pronunciation for Clara but think most people would use the latter.

seventeen sheep · 22-12-2014 10:43am

princesselm wrote: »

Cara to me is more like Car-ah.

Lara more like Lah-ra.

Does that make sense?

So would favour the former pronunciation for Clara but think most people would use the latter.

I'm just thinking "Clara Lara", you know the adventure park (not sure if it even still exists!) That's how I would pronounce both names, and they definitely rhyme.

I love the name Clara, I like the name Cara, I amn't so fond of Lara. But all three would sound the same, as regards rhyming, to me.

I do get that Lara is sometimes pronounced in (to be honest) quite a knackery way, like Laaa-raaaa ... but people could pronounce Cara or Clara with the exact same inflection!

I do think it's a name you should avoid if you want to pronounce it differently than most, though. You/your daughter will only end up being annoyed over mispronunciation all the time!

Boo2112 · 06-01-2015 3:02pm

spottybananas wrote: »

I don't know what song you're talking about, I kind of like Lola, it beats Lily, the most common name of the last 3 years!

Or you could have the middle ground and go with lilah, I like it but not enough to call ours but could be a good option. Girls names are so much easier for us, the only boys name that any way jumped out at us was Walt but literally nobody we've told it to has liked it so we're a bit disheartened. Why is this such a big responsibility! Also on the mention of poppy I love it and my oh vetoed it because he reckons it's a stripper name because they pop their ass :P so funny the links some people make!

seventeen sheep · 06-01-2015 7:18pm

I actually quite like Walt/Walter.

Saralee4 · 06-01-2015 9:46pm

bubblypop wrote: »

Why call her Penelope, if you plan on calling her poppy as a nickname?
Seems really silly!
I would never call Penelope, poppy.

Just call her poppy if you like it!

I always think its good to have a long name and a short name.

I was named a short name that comes from a long name but my birth cert is the short name. I actually prefer the long version of my name.

I think if you call them the long version on the birth cert and then call them by their short name, when the child gets older, they can choose which one they like and introduce themselves as they want to be known.

littlemissteach · 06-01-2015 10:07pm

Any opinions on Síne, Siún or Róise, good bad or indifferent?Or maybe you can suggest some Irish names you wouldn't hear too often.

seventeen sheep · 06-01-2015 10:11pm

littlemissteach wrote: »

Any opinions on Síne, Siún or Róise, good bad or indifferent?Or maybe you can suggest some Irish names you wouldn't hear too often.

The third would be my favourite of the three.

(Sorry can't type it as I'm on my phone, it doesn't do fadas!) Aoibhe is my favourite Irish name, I also like Clodagh.

Roesy · 06-01-2015 10:54pm

seventeen sheep wrote: »

The third would be my favourite of the three. (Sorry can't type it as I'm on my phone, it doesn't do fadas!) Aoibhe is my favourite Irish name, I also like Clodagh.

Aoibhe is a lovely name but the whole Eva/Ava thing would drive me nuts. My husband suggested one name during the whole of my last pregnancy, Clodagh. He said any Clodagh he ever met was grand and sensible therefore it would be a good name

I can see the same thing happening this time as last time, two of us in the delivery room looking at the baby and going through the Internet trying out names on him/her while the midwife looks on laughing.

nikpmup · 06-01-2015 11:33pm

Roesy wrote: »

I can see the same thing happening this time as last time, two of us in the delivery room looking at the baby and going through the Internet trying out names on him/her while the midwife looks on laughing.

OMG, how did I miss this? Many many congrats Roesy!

Roesy · 06-01-2015 11:41pm

nikpmup wrote: »

OMG, how did I miss this? Many many congrats Roesy!

Thanks! Due early July, if this one is anything like its sister he or she will probably make an appearance around August

nikpmup · 07-01-2015 12:59am

I told my OH; he reckons we need to cracking IMMEDIATELY on #2

He's competitive like that!

Anyway, sorry to derail the thread!

Moonbeam · 07-01-2015 6:17pm

littlemissteach wrote: »

Any opinions on Síne, Siún or Róise, good bad or indifferent?Or maybe you can suggest some Irish names you wouldn't hear too often.

I have a Siún , it is a pretty name.
I like Róise but prefer Róisín.
I have never heard of Síne but love Sinéad.
I love Aisling,Dearbhail,Dearbhla,Meabhdh,Aoife,Caoilfhionn,Alannah,Síofra,Siobhán ,I love a lot of names:)

tinkerbell · 08-01-2015 12:55pm

Moonbeam wrote: »

Meabhdh

Meabhdh? Bloody heck, that's actually a name? that's probably the worst version of any irish name I've ever seen! Why the "dh" added on at the end?

As an aside, I really dislike Síofra - it tends to be used as a word for brat, I've found. I remember while growing up, if someone was bold they'd be referred to as "a right little Síofra".

kieran. · 08-01-2015 1:05pm

kieran. wrote: »

Really love Jacob wanted to call our last son Jacob but couldn't get Mrs Kieran convinced.

Having a girl in January and our four names this time are Juliet, Georgina, Victoria and Felicity. Going to try to get Felicity over the line this time

So the big day has came and gonna didn't succeed in getting Felicity over the line in fact in the time that past from my post had changed onto Scarlet which got to the the final choice of two name but as we ended up with Georgina as it just sat well with her

spottybananas · 08-01-2015 1:05pm

tinkerbell wrote: »

As an aside, I really dislike Síofra - it tends to be used as a word for brat, I've found. I remember while growing up, if someone was bold they'd be referred to as "a right little Síofra".

I have never heard it used as anything other than the name it is, that must be a particularly colloquial thing. Never heard it used for a brat, why would it be?

Lisha · 08-01-2015 1:06pm

kieran. wrote: »

So the big day has came and gonna didn't succeed in getting Felicity over the line in fact in the time that past from my post had changed onto Scarlet which got to the the final choice of two name but as we ended up with Georgina as it just sat well with her

Ahh congrats enjoy Georgina !

Woshy · 08-01-2015 1:07pm

kieran. wrote: »

So the big day has came and gonna didn't succeed in getting Felicity over the line in fact in the time that past from my post had changed onto Scarlet which got to the the final choice of two name but as we ended up with Georgina as it just sat well with her

Congrats!

spottybananas wrote: »

I have never heard it used as an[HTML][/HTML]ything other than the name it is, that must be a particularly colloquial thing. Never heard it used for a brat, why would it be?

Doesn't it mean fairy in Irish? Maybe that's why - like calling someone impish or something. I've never heard it used that way either though!

Frog Song · 08-01-2015 2:42pm

spottybananas wrote: »

I have never heard it used as anything other than the name it is, that must be a particularly colloquial thing. Never heard it used for a brat, why would it be?

My mother always says it for a little brat too, I've heard several people from different parts of the country say it over the years so the name always reminds me of that.

pwurple · 08-01-2015 2:45pm

tinkerbell wrote: »

Meabhdh?

I think that's actually wrong! It's the dh first isn't it?

Meadhbh rather than Meabhdh.

tinkerbell · 08-01-2015 3:37pm

pwurple wrote: »

I think that's actually wrong! It's the dh first isn't it?

Meadhbh rather than Meabhdh.

Still don't like it! It just looks ridiculous with the dhbh

spottybananas · 08-01-2015 3:41pm

I wouldn't associate the Irish for fairy/changeling with being a brat, never heard it. Must definitely be a thing local to certain areas, so I'm sure anyone considering it as a name doesn't live in one of them.

karareilly · 08-01-2015 6:14pm

Had luke for a boy picked and hayley for a girl, had a ikle boy

Moonbeam · 08-01-2015 10:28pm

pwurple wrote: »

I think that's actually wrong! It's the dh first isn't it?

Meadhbh rather than Meabhdh.

Both are correct spellings

seventeen sheep · 08-01-2015 11:15pm

Moonbeam wrote: »

Both are correct spellings

Are you sure ...?

I can see how the dh in Meadhbh could be silent. (Still some unnecessary letters, but, ok.)

I can't see how a random dh tagged onto the end of the name Meabh - making it Meabhdh - is in any way consistent with Irish grammatical rules.

It just makes no sense! If you sound it out in your head ... Why is the dh there?

YumDeiseMum · 09-01-2015 9:13am

Myself and OH are going to come to blows over names at this stage lol. He is from a massive family, lots of cousins that have children and they all interact regularly. I dont want a name that has been used in his family already, or a name that has been in the top 10 for the last 5 years running, so the child will have the same name as 4 or 5 others in his class.
He wants a 'good solid name' but thats as far as his input has gotten, he wont actually suggest a name, but will shoot down every single name I suggest for one reason or another. Maybe I'm just being too fussy

but it was soooo much easier when it came to picking a name for my daughter.

Names I like at the moment are Nathan, Lorcan, Jake, Alfie

pwurple · 09-01-2015 4:41pm

seventeen sheep wrote: »

Are you sure ...?

I can see how the dh in Meadhbh could be silent. (Still some unnecessary letters, but, ok.)

I can't see how a random dh tagged onto the end of the name Meabh - making it Meabhdh - is in any way consistent with Irish grammatical rules. It just makes no sense! If you sound it out in your head ... Why is the dh there?

Well, as it's a name, rather than a word, you can spell it any way you like and it's correct!

My brain would struggle with the Irish pronunciation of it as well when reversed, makes no sense to the rules in my head... but then I've heard plenty of variation in how irish is being pronounced as people use it in names. I've got three friends with Rían's in their families, with different pronunciations required for each. (Ryan, Ree-ann and Ree-awn)

Same for Aislinn (Ais-lynn and ais-ling), Róise (Rosey and Ro-sha) and ,most bizarrely to me, Cathal. (Cah-hal and Cah-hawl)

We've just got to suck it up and remember them all!

ariana` · 09-01-2015 5:25pm

pwurple wrote: »

Well, as it's a name, rather than a word, you can spell it any way you like and it's correct!

My brain would struggle with the Irish pronunciation of it as well when reversed, makes no sense to the rules in my head... but then I've heard plenty of variation in how irish is being pronounced as people use it in names. I've got three friends with Rían's in their families, with different pronunciations required for each. (Ryan, Ree-ann and Ree-awn)

Same for Aislinn (Ais-lynn and ais-ling), Róise (Rosey and Ro-sha) and ,most bizarrely to me, Cathal. (Cah-hal and Cah-hawl)

We've just got to suck it up and remember them all!

This is what puts me and hubby off Irish names. And i love them when i hear them and i'm always tempted but he has an Irish name he wouldn't inflict it on anyone especially in the increasingly cosmopolitan world we live in today (more reason to use Irish names i'm sure in some peoples' eyes). My brother moved to the States nearly 20yrs ago and had to change the spelling of his name to an English equivalent. Such a shame when some of the names sound so beautiful

implausible · 10-01-2015 1:54am

ariana` wrote: »

This is what puts me and hubby off Irish names. And i love them when i hear them and i'm always tempted but he has an Irish name he wouldn't inflict it on anyone especially in the increasingly cosmopolitan world we live in today (more reason to use Irish names i'm sure in some peoples' eyes). My brother moved to the States nearly 20yrs ago and had to change the spelling of his name to an English equivalent. Such a shame when some of the names sound so beautiful

Why do people think that Irish names have a monopoly on being difficult? I really think that a lot of people in this country have a hangover from compulsory Irish in school. Lots of English names can be pronounced and spelt in a variety of ways depending on the person's preference and local dialect. Take Thomas; it can be Tom, Tommy, Tomás, Thom, Thos and then people get into a debate about how you pronounce the 'th' sound and that's a 'normal' name!

In the increasingly cosmopolitan world we live in, we should be accustomed to coming across foreign and difficult to pronounce names. I have yet to meet a Polish student for example, who completely changed his/her name to suit the teacher. I taught English in Australia for a while and the South Korean students picked an American or English name for the duration of their course, as they were under the impression that their names were too difficult for the teachers to pronounce. I thought it was incredibly sad.

We can order Indian food, travel abroad and complain about the dust cloud from that Icelandic volcano, but somehow can't manage to get our heads around the fact that a name like Sadhbh is pronounced 'Sive'. If you have a 'difficult' name, the people who matter will make the effort to pronounce it. Not making the effort to get it right is simply rude.

/rant over;)

mum2be · 10-01-2015 9:42am

Moonbeam wrote: »

Both are correct spellings

This is incorrect, if you use a dh or not in the spelling of the name it should always end with a bh as that is what gives it a v sound.

Baby names!

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